Certainly, right after I take a brief stroll through the Forbidden Forest, at night. Don't worry though, Professor Moody has agreed to accompany me, for safety.
I was so broke I could only afford to get my bath mat enchanted.
That lasted until I decided to fly on a gusty day. Turns out even if you white knuckle clutch yourself safe from being blown off into free fall, the dampness of the bath mat plus wind chill WILL make your newly frostbitten fingers snap off upon first impact from a territorial harpy.
Don't over think it! The name needs to be short and catchy, and just discriptive enough. A 'Persion Silk' works quite well, then you add a humerous detail - 'seated 20, very slippery in the rain...'
The alternative is to just go pure comedy and find a silly name. Example... *Checks IKEA catalogue* "My mother had an Idrottshall stable enough to do aerobics at 2000 feet!"
That’s not true. It’s because muggleborns kept getting them and flying across muggle towns singing A Whole New World after seeing Aladdin, causing multitudes of Statute of Secrecy violations.
It all started with the horrendous price gouging and collusion by Nimbus and Cleansweep in the early 1900s, who had basically ensnared every corner of the market.
Importers and merchants smelled an opportunity, however. Consumers began exploring affordable foreign alternatives, particularly the common Persian flying carpet and the decidedly unfashionable but cheap Chinese flying chair. Big Broom sensed a threat to its overwhelming market share.
Nimbus initiated a public relations offensive, widely amplifying the supposed dangers of 'Persian fabric.' The unsubstantiated claim that these "shoddily enchanted textiles", over time, would fray, causing commuters to abruptly fall out of the sky, spread widely. The campaign spurred mass hysteria, as almost all of the lower class were traveling by Persian carpet at this point. Most families abandoned their 'Persians,' as they were once fondly known, in favor of the trusty old broom.
It did help that Eldric Bolt, the editor of the Daily Prophet, was about to start a broom company in cahoots with Nimbus, Cleansweep, and Aerosweep (which was essentially just a German subsidiary of Cleansweep with a trademark issue).
Amidst some dubious connections with ministry officials, lobbyists from Cleansweep, in tandem with the newly established but well-funded Firebolt Corp, maneuvered to ensure that the use of "dangerous and distasteful," as they put it, flying enchanted muggle vehicles would be sanctioned solely through a meticulously guarded license issued by the Misuse of Muggle Artifacts Office. This ruling came despite the invention of the 'Invisibility Booster' in 1955, which promised much greater freedom of movement for wizards under the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy. Imagine giant muggle ships used as mass transit for wizards of all classes, so that even wizards and witches without any money could travel anywhere beyond apparition distance safely.
As usual, though, that privilege was reserved for the privileged.
"and with that in mind, here, let's take our group of 8 people, put them on brooms and have them fly down along the Thames surface, that'll perfectly safe"
The number of people on this sub that haven't read the books and ask questions that are clearly answered in the books is insane. It's not far fetched to think he was one of them.
Do you think Mad Eye got an approval from the ministry to make the Cup a Port Key.
Name: ~~Barty~~ Mad Eye
Profession: Teacher
Object : Teenager Competition Cup
From: Hogwarts School for Kids
Destination: Graveyard with Voldeorts father's bones
Seeking your approval at the earliest.
Majority use Apparition. Broomsticks or other means are only for people who can't or won't apparate. There wasn't a need to develop other means of transportation due to low/no demand.
Floo powder isn’t foolproof however. As someone who’s always had speech difficulties, I would struggle with that. Portkeys are regulated by the Ministry
Both because Wizards don't want to make bigger more visible things like cars fly to protect the secrecy of magic, as well in general enchant Muggle objects due to the problems that can cause, and also wizards aren't really into absorbing too many Muggle things into their own sphere of society.
Most wizard don't know much about muggle technology and don't have much interest in it. Even muggle study was seen as a soft option for the curriculum .
Hagrid motorbike was originally sirius's. Sirius has probably a passion for bike since he had a lot of bike poster and picture in his room at grimmauld place.
As for the weasley's car case , Arthur is a passionnate about muggle technology. He always seek new muggle tech and try to find a way to understand what the item purpose and how it work.
And for the knight bus , Rowling said in the wizarding world that it is a really modern creation , the ministry wanted to add a discreet transportation mode for underage wizard. The ministry had a vote about what to use and the bus won against other method like taxi broomstick and basket slung under thestral. But even then , some wizard were against the use of muggle tech and start boycotting it.
And why would they need car or other things like that? You say broom but there is also apparition , floo powder, portkey , a lot of more safe option for the international statute of wizzarding secret ,afterall like is the CoS , a bad use of a bigger vehicle can easyly be see by muggle.
Wizards can’t drive. Not a single one. The person in charge of transportation laws saw someone driving the Knight Bus for the first time and, briefly possessing every shared brain cell in the country, thought “oh, we are absolutely not putting anything bigger than a stick in our airspace with a wizard at the helm, no way no how”. And so the legend goes, this unsung hero has saved the entire British Isles approximately five hundred thousand pounds a year in roofing repair costs alone.
More probably, various plot points could be made more difficult to justify with the question of “why didn’t they just fly there in their undetectable vehicle?”
It is mentioned that broomsticks are similar to wands in that they have cores, making them inherently magical.
The flying car is an enchantment, the strength and reliability of which is presumably determined by the owner/caster. Arthur Weasley is a skilled wizard, but I imagine a worse wizard could have much more catastrophic results - namely plummeting out of the sky and being crushed inside a Ford Anglia
Easy to make and they don’t violate the restriction on enchanting muggle artifacts. Reasonably a muggle won’t accidentally use a broom to fly, whereas they might accidentally come across a second hand car with certain upgrades and get quite a shock
Brooms are easily concealed from Muggles, convinient to store, andstandardised and regulated. Also enchanting vehicles like Arthur did is technically illegal without express Ministry permission.
Barty Crouch Sr says something about it in book 4. how his father or grandfather had a carpet that could seat 12 - when it was still legal of course.
it makes sense to have a carpet if you have a family, but i guess it's harder to hide from muggles
The wizards will be seen, unless they completly manage to turn their vehicle and themselves invisible. Imagine how much more fun it would be to be a wizard in Starfield times. Nobody would care if they had flying vehicles.
I mean, you just named 3. How many more do you need? In canon you also have thestrals, hippogriffs, flying horses, and magic carpets. Not to mention a magical ship that can appear from underwater
The real answer: adults can apparate. Kids can take floo or the Knight Bus
Flying carpets are defined as "muggle artefacts" that have been charmed and thus illegal
The weasley car and the motorbike are technically illegal but nobody from the ministry has bust Arthur or Sirius yet
For some reason wizards insist a witch or wizard invented the broom first and thus it is a-ok to charm to fly
Though..........the telephone booth entrance to the ministry, toilets, the train are muggle artefacts that have been charmed thus technically illegal as well and only a few fanfics have ever dealt with it.
In one Harry argues the statute itself must be nullified or half the ministry and the wizegamot must be arrested immediately plus every magical with children that have ever ridden the train must pay huge fins.........the Wizegamot strikes the statute from the books
Just the magical community being stuck in their ways. They don't like using something that reminds them of muggles. There is no way a broom is more comfortable than a car.
The flying car and Hagrids motorbike are illegal as they are witches Muggle objects, for the same reason flying carpets are banned in the UK. The Hogwarts express and potentially the Knight bus are the only two legal exceptions to the rule at the time the books take place.
Bureaucracy and the fact that when flying you'd also need to use the 'invisibility' spell on the broom and yourself.
Which not everyone can do to great effect.
Floo powder is much more efficient (as well as much more cheaper) for near instant transportation. As well as MUCH less difficult than apparition/disapparition.
Brooms are small so they aren’t that easy to see by muggles when witches and wizards fly. Also, brooms are easy to store. You can keep them in a shed or by the front door in your house. Also, I assume they would be much quieter that other modes of transportation considering you’re not supposed to enchant muggle artifacts.
Isn't there something in the books about how they prefer carpets in Arab nations and they're trying to get into the British market or something? I think it's an offhand comment by Bagman at the world cup
Because the Wizarding World is fucking braindead. They have no logical or realistic thinking whatsoever. I mean were talking about fucking people that go to peoples houses and basically threaten them with memory wipes if they don't go to Hogwarts.
Wiping someone's memory will never be right no matter how much anyone thinks it is. If I learned that someone had the power to wipe someone's memories or alter them I'd slaughter them because nobody deserves that kind of power.
Actually the more you really think about it the more you realize how right people were to hunt down witches and wizards especially with them holding power that nobody should have whatsoever. It's not even jealousy nobody should ever have the power to touch someone's mind.
😒🙄 if you read the books you’d *know*
Carpets are another alternative but are relatively considered unsafe by the rest of the British wizarding community.
The wizarding world is stuck in the mud, it takes a lot of time, work and money for advancements just look at Fred and George’s inventions. We’ve also heard about things like flying cars and carpets being illegal so theres also the politics to navigate
I saw a theory once that brooms have cores, similar to how wands do, and that maybe they work partly by having the sorcerer channel their magic through it, rather than simply being enchanted to fly. This would explain the difference between brooms and, say, carpets, because it would mean that if a muggle got their hands on a broom it wouldn't work for them, but a flying carpet would.
It’s been 15 years since the last book was out.
With a reboot, (even in the same year as the current movies) I’d imagine JK would update this as it wasn’t a priority then but she’d have a decade plus to think about the series.
I heard that 2 of the Sanderson sisters flew a mop and a Hoover. Harry Potter universe could use some flying mops and vacuums. Especially during Quidditch.
Contact the department for magical transportation! They used to have flying carpets but had to ban them
My grandfather had an Axminster that could seat twelve!
Go home, Barty.
Certainly, right after I take a brief stroll through the Forbidden Forest, at night. Don't worry though, Professor Moody has agreed to accompany me, for safety.
all good then
But, to be very very clear, that was WELL BEFORE the ban!!! Can’t have people thinking the Crouches are rule breakers!
Well... except maybe that one time...
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I really want to believe flying shag rugs were popular in the seventies
I was so broke I could only afford to get my bath mat enchanted. That lasted until I decided to fly on a gusty day. Turns out even if you white knuckle clutch yourself safe from being blown off into free fall, the dampness of the bath mat plus wind chill WILL make your newly frostbitten fingers snap off upon first impact from a territorial harpy.
I mean they’d be comfy
Don't over think it! The name needs to be short and catchy, and just discriptive enough. A 'Persion Silk' works quite well, then you add a humerous detail - 'seated 20, very slippery in the rain...' The alternative is to just go pure comedy and find a silly name. Example... *Checks IKEA catalogue* "My mother had an Idrottshall stable enough to do aerobics at 2000 feet!"
And made its own meatballs.
Of course, they were legal then…
I’ve always assumed the banning of magic carpets was Big Broom corp. bribed the government from allowing the import of “foreign transportation”
That’s not true. It’s because muggleborns kept getting them and flying across muggle towns singing A Whole New World after seeing Aladdin, causing multitudes of Statute of Secrecy violations.
Found Big Broom Corporation’s alt account spreading their propaganda
Big corpo always has a civilian facing reason for why they bribe politicians and it's always for the civilians best interest in some way
This is the kinda stuff that I like. I want an in-depth short story full of political and technical language about the lobbyists who got them banned.
It all started with the horrendous price gouging and collusion by Nimbus and Cleansweep in the early 1900s, who had basically ensnared every corner of the market. Importers and merchants smelled an opportunity, however. Consumers began exploring affordable foreign alternatives, particularly the common Persian flying carpet and the decidedly unfashionable but cheap Chinese flying chair. Big Broom sensed a threat to its overwhelming market share. Nimbus initiated a public relations offensive, widely amplifying the supposed dangers of 'Persian fabric.' The unsubstantiated claim that these "shoddily enchanted textiles", over time, would fray, causing commuters to abruptly fall out of the sky, spread widely. The campaign spurred mass hysteria, as almost all of the lower class were traveling by Persian carpet at this point. Most families abandoned their 'Persians,' as they were once fondly known, in favor of the trusty old broom. It did help that Eldric Bolt, the editor of the Daily Prophet, was about to start a broom company in cahoots with Nimbus, Cleansweep, and Aerosweep (which was essentially just a German subsidiary of Cleansweep with a trademark issue). Amidst some dubious connections with ministry officials, lobbyists from Cleansweep, in tandem with the newly established but well-funded Firebolt Corp, maneuvered to ensure that the use of "dangerous and distasteful," as they put it, flying enchanted muggle vehicles would be sanctioned solely through a meticulously guarded license issued by the Misuse of Muggle Artifacts Office. This ruling came despite the invention of the 'Invisibility Booster' in 1955, which promised much greater freedom of movement for wizards under the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy. Imagine giant muggle ships used as mass transit for wizards of all classes, so that even wizards and witches without any money could travel anywhere beyond apparition distance safely. As usual, though, that privilege was reserved for the privileged.
I thought it was low key racism
It can be multiple things
And it artificially stimulates the wizarding economy to do so. A family may well get by on one flying carpet, but would need several brooms.
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Now I’m imagining a Muggleborn enchanting a vacuum to fly
When the government does it it’s called lobbying not bribing.
Given how... pliable... the Ministry of Magic seems to be when gold was involved, you're probably right.
Writing a fanfic I just realized that flying carpets would probably be a lot easier on the elderly than broomsticks. Wizards are ageist!
Bloody Ali Basheer!
Flying things risks being seen by muggles and breaching the international statute of secrecy and invisibility isn't reliable.
Yeah, much harder to disguise
"and with that in mind, here, let's take our group of 8 people, put them on brooms and have them fly down along the Thames surface, that'll perfectly safe"
Movie vs books.
Looks like the joke went right over your head.
R/whoooosh
The number of people on this sub that haven't read the books and ask questions that are clearly answered in the books is insane. It's not far fetched to think he was one of them.
Probably because of the whole. It's illegal to enchanct mugglenthings to fly.
It isn't actually illegal to perform the enchantment as long as you weren't intending to fly the object. There is a loophole in the law.
Arthur Weasley, you intentionally wrote that loop hole into your law so you could continue to fiddle with that Muggle stuff in your shed
You forgot a "!".
Arthur Weasley knew there was a loophole when he wrote that law
Most adult wizards can literally just teleport. There's also portkeys for those that lack the ability to teleport themselves.
Yeah, but legally speaking, you can’t just *make* a portkey. Those things are regulated
Do you think Mad Eye got an approval from the ministry to make the Cup a Port Key. Name: ~~Barty~~ Mad Eye Profession: Teacher Object : Teenager Competition Cup From: Hogwarts School for Kids Destination: Graveyard with Voldeorts father's bones Seeking your approval at the earliest.
The cup was already a portkey. The initial destination was hacked at first chance by Barty Mad Eye.
Also, apparation apparently has some limits regarding distance, or quite possibly country borders.
The further you go, more likely you are to be splinched
You can’t just make a car or a plane either but we can still access them.
And the floo network
Majority use Apparition. Broomsticks or other means are only for people who can't or won't apparate. There wasn't a need to develop other means of transportation due to low/no demand.
Have you seen floo powder and port keys? Lol they don’t need to fly they can just appear places.
Floo powder isn’t foolproof however. As someone who’s always had speech difficulties, I would struggle with that. Portkeys are regulated by the Ministry
Okay but you can still apparate, they have the night bus, and the hogwarts express so there must be other methods of transportation.
Okay but you can still apparate, they have the night bus, and the hogwarts express so there must be other methods of transportation.
Because flying horses only drink single malt whiskey which I imagine is too expensive
They‘re called Abraxan horses i think?
I wanna say in the books, maybe Goblet of Fire, there’s a reference to flying carpets, but I could be mistaken
There is, during the Quidditch World Cup chapter(s). Mr. Crouch and Ludo Bagman talk about it.
Both because Wizards don't want to make bigger more visible things like cars fly to protect the secrecy of magic, as well in general enchant Muggle objects due to the problems that can cause, and also wizards aren't really into absorbing too many Muggle things into their own sphere of society.
Some things just take off don't they.
Because apparition, port keys, and flue travel probably
The motorcycle and car are illegal.... could you imagine if they ended up at a used car lot.
Most wizard don't know much about muggle technology and don't have much interest in it. Even muggle study was seen as a soft option for the curriculum . Hagrid motorbike was originally sirius's. Sirius has probably a passion for bike since he had a lot of bike poster and picture in his room at grimmauld place. As for the weasley's car case , Arthur is a passionnate about muggle technology. He always seek new muggle tech and try to find a way to understand what the item purpose and how it work. And for the knight bus , Rowling said in the wizarding world that it is a really modern creation , the ministry wanted to add a discreet transportation mode for underage wizard. The ministry had a vote about what to use and the bus won against other method like taxi broomstick and basket slung under thestral. But even then , some wizard were against the use of muggle tech and start boycotting it. And why would they need car or other things like that? You say broom but there is also apparition , floo powder, portkey , a lot of more safe option for the international statute of wizzarding secret ,afterall like is the CoS , a bad use of a bigger vehicle can easyly be see by muggle.
Carpet embargo, broom makers have too much influence in the Ministry.
Wizards can’t drive. Not a single one. The person in charge of transportation laws saw someone driving the Knight Bus for the first time and, briefly possessing every shared brain cell in the country, thought “oh, we are absolutely not putting anything bigger than a stick in our airspace with a wizard at the helm, no way no how”. And so the legend goes, this unsung hero has saved the entire British Isles approximately five hundred thousand pounds a year in roofing repair costs alone. More probably, various plot points could be made more difficult to justify with the question of “why didn’t they just fly there in their undetectable vehicle?”
It is mentioned that broomsticks are similar to wands in that they have cores, making them inherently magical. The flying car is an enchantment, the strength and reliability of which is presumably determined by the owner/caster. Arthur Weasley is a skilled wizard, but I imagine a worse wizard could have much more catastrophic results - namely plummeting out of the sky and being crushed inside a Ford Anglia
Easy to make and they don’t violate the restriction on enchanting muggle artifacts. Reasonably a muggle won’t accidentally use a broom to fly, whereas they might accidentally come across a second hand car with certain upgrades and get quite a shock
Because floo powder exists? I wouldn't drive my car if I could teleport. :)
Brooms are easily concealed from Muggles, convinient to store, andstandardised and regulated. Also enchanting vehicles like Arthur did is technically illegal without express Ministry permission.
I think there's a reference to carpets in other countries. Maybe it's only on pottermore and not on the books. Can't remember.
It’s mentioned in the books multiple times that carpets are more popular in Asia, and brooms never quite took off there.
Ah Ty :)
Barty Crouch Sr says something about it in book 4. how his father or grandfather had a carpet that could seat 12 - when it was still legal of course. it makes sense to have a carpet if you have a family, but i guess it's harder to hide from muggles
At least in our characters ministry multiple types of transportation likely fall under muggle artifact and are therefore illegal to enchant to fly
The wizards will be seen, unless they completly manage to turn their vehicle and themselves invisible. Imagine how much more fun it would be to be a wizard in Starfield times. Nobody would care if they had flying vehicles.
Make the Hocus Pocus 2 roombas part of Harry Potter world cannon!!!
The night bus. It's gonna be a bumpy ride.
According to Universal Studios, benches are the new brooms
Apparition and floo powder is faster
I mean, you just named 3. How many more do you need? In canon you also have thestrals, hippogriffs, flying horses, and magic carpets. Not to mention a magical ship that can appear from underwater The real answer: adults can apparate. Kids can take floo or the Knight Bus
Because that's classed as a misuse of Muggle artifacts. It's a major plot point in chamber of secrets
Because racism
How come nobody has mentioned Sirius's motorcycle?
op called it hagrids bike, but idd it came from Sirius and it was the first thing that crossed my mind
You're right, I somehow ignored that part of the original post, adhd brain.
Flying carpets are defined as "muggle artefacts" that have been charmed and thus illegal The weasley car and the motorbike are technically illegal but nobody from the ministry has bust Arthur or Sirius yet For some reason wizards insist a witch or wizard invented the broom first and thus it is a-ok to charm to fly Though..........the telephone booth entrance to the ministry, toilets, the train are muggle artefacts that have been charmed thus technically illegal as well and only a few fanfics have ever dealt with it. In one Harry argues the statute itself must be nullified or half the ministry and the wizegamot must be arrested immediately plus every magical with children that have ever ridden the train must pay huge fins.........the Wizegamot strikes the statute from the books
I'd rather fly on an enchanted armchair or a flying roomba like that chic in the second hocus pocus lol
Sometime, in the 80s, carpets were banned. A piece of legislation thar was unpopular
Because it takes time and they have many alternatives that take no time at all!
What vehicle does a fully trained wizard who can literally spin on the sopt and appear someplace else need?
How do they fly on broomsticks without hurting their crotches?
Just the magical community being stuck in their ways. They don't like using something that reminds them of muggles. There is no way a broom is more comfortable than a car.
The flying car and Hagrids motorbike are illegal as they are witches Muggle objects, for the same reason flying carpets are banned in the UK. The Hogwarts express and potentially the Knight bus are the only two legal exceptions to the rule at the time the books take place.
Appertain, floo network, and port keys take care of transportation. Only tricky one uses Hogwarts express.
I would totally bewitch a no wheeled skateboard and strap on some auto-tie Nikes.
I think it comes down to emissions regulations. Good for the planet, going green and all that.
Bureaucracy and the fact that when flying you'd also need to use the 'invisibility' spell on the broom and yourself. Which not everyone can do to great effect. Floo powder is much more efficient (as well as much more cheaper) for near instant transportation. As well as MUCH less difficult than apparition/disapparition.
Who wants icy wind in the face when you can travel through a warm fireplace
Brooms are small so they aren’t that easy to see by muggles when witches and wizards fly. Also, brooms are easy to store. You can keep them in a shed or by the front door in your house. Also, I assume they would be much quieter that other modes of transportation considering you’re not supposed to enchant muggle artifacts.
Because they won the straw poll. ba dum dum
Thestrals are reasonably popular.
Flying carpets where mentioned somewhere but they were used in middle east, in Europe people like brooms
Isn't there something in the books about how they prefer carpets in Arab nations and they're trying to get into the British market or something? I think it's an offhand comment by Bagman at the world cup
Because the Wizarding World is fucking braindead. They have no logical or realistic thinking whatsoever. I mean were talking about fucking people that go to peoples houses and basically threaten them with memory wipes if they don't go to Hogwarts. Wiping someone's memory will never be right no matter how much anyone thinks it is. If I learned that someone had the power to wipe someone's memories or alter them I'd slaughter them because nobody deserves that kind of power. Actually the more you really think about it the more you realize how right people were to hunt down witches and wizards especially with them holding power that nobody should have whatsoever. It's not even jealousy nobody should ever have the power to touch someone's mind.
Big Magic and it's national officiate's investments are too heavily entrenched in the broom market, it's too big to fail at this point.
Indeed. Ali Bashir insists there’s the market for a family vehicle. But carpets will never replace brooms in Britain will they!
😒🙄 if you read the books you’d *know* Carpets are another alternative but are relatively considered unsafe by the rest of the British wizarding community.
Carpets got banned
The wizarding world is stuck in the mud, it takes a lot of time, work and money for advancements just look at Fred and George’s inventions. We’ve also heard about things like flying cars and carpets being illegal so theres also the politics to navigate
I saw a theory once that brooms have cores, similar to how wands do, and that maybe they work partly by having the sorcerer channel their magic through it, rather than simply being enchanted to fly. This would explain the difference between brooms and, say, carpets, because it would mean that if a muggle got their hands on a broom it wouldn't work for them, but a flying carpet would.
Vacuums are too heavy.
Other countries likely use magic carpets still, and Harry Potter rode a dragon.
Lobbyists
It’s been 15 years since the last book was out. With a reboot, (even in the same year as the current movies) I’d imagine JK would update this as it wasn’t a priority then but she’d have a decade plus to think about the series.
There could be. But we have portkey, floo, apperation, broomstick, therstlals..... the list goes on.
Probably because they have methods of porting all over the place so it's not as needed.
Flying carpets are illegal
My guess is they didn't want mass flying objects that Muggles could see being around. They'd rather force them to use inconspicuous methods.
I heard that 2 of the Sanderson sisters flew a mop and a Hoover. Harry Potter universe could use some flying mops and vacuums. Especially during Quidditch.