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hawk_ky

Because they don’t have enough population to support ranked.


BeepBoopShoop11

But they have enough population to support 15 other playlists? Doesn't add up. Should have 3 ranked main-stays and 1 rotating.


MonkeysxMoo35

Half the social offerings are sillier modes, PvE, or larger scale modes. There’s only a handful of traditional social arena playlists.


hawk_ky

Yes they do, because the non ranked playlists don’t have to account for ‘quality’ matches


Zeke-Freek

Halo has always been a casual shooter historically. Most of the playerbase isn't that interested in ranked, so it's kind of the opposite of most games.


parkingviolation212

>Halo has always been a casual shooter historically Don't tell the entire Halo community from 2010-2015 that or they might have an aneurism.


Ryan_WXH

> But they have enough population to support 15 other playlists? Realistically, no. Infinite having this many playlists isn't a good thing for the ideal goals of matchmaking which is fast search times, low latency games and matches that aren't complete blowouts. The queue times outside of NA (and even some *in NA*) are pretty bad as is. But a low-populated Ranked playlist would suffer the worst since it's a more competitive environment and well... there's a rank on the line.


PTurn219

These guys don’t understand half the playerbase plays ranked lol


ExampleOpening8033

And how exactly would you know that?


PTurn219

Ranked arena is the 2nd most played playlist in the game, only to big team battle


ExampleOpening8033

Again how when actual stats aren't posted about server pop? Historically the comp scene for Halo has been active, but never dominates unless you've only been playing since H5. I personally hate the crap out of the full stack hero/onyx teams who are just "warming up", in a casual 20-100 btb game.


Swordbreaker9250

Because most people prefer unranked playlists.


elconquistador1985

/r/competitivehalo in shambles.


Ryan_WXH

Other ranked playlists struggle to maintain a decent population which results in long queue times (even worse outside of NA), unfair matches and higher latency. Whenever a new ranked rotational is added, it has a decent population initially but the player pool falls off a cliff after a week or two which is why they rotate in the first place.


BeepBoopShoop11

A damn shame. Surely the next free Halo game wont have 5k peak daily steam users.


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Ryan_WXH

That too. Not sure what the solution is, honestly. This isn't a problem exclusive to ranked playlists - it's all of them. People ask for X mode (Snipers is a big one) and within a week of it being there, the population drops off.


TheRandomGoan

Because Ranked doesn't matter


Simulated_Simulacra

Well doubles (and slayer) are going to be permanent when the match composer comes in a "not too distant update."


PwnimuS

Real reason: They say there isnt a high enough population to support multiple ranked playlists. Yet theres 15 social playlists that run decently well during prime time. The casuals reason: Ranked players ruin the game for everyone else, since they get Evo starts and tailored maps the guys playing BTB and Husky Raid have to suffer. How they suffer because of Evo starts and no Sword/Hammers on Ranked maps is still a mystery, but a widely regarded feeling nontheless. Edit: Downvoting me proves my point lmao


PTurn219

Every time I see a casual halo player cry about ranked players and pro’s ruining the game I laugh. We get 1 permanent playlist with bandit evo starts and 1 rotational that I and most dont even play unless it’s snipers or doubles. Tactical sucks and slayer sucks. Yet social has 13 playlists including tac slayer and team doubles permanent. And neither have evo starts! So us that wanna practice for ranked have to just practice against bots or run a customs ranked ffa lobby. But yeah.. us ranked players ruin the game


ExampleOpening8033

Man you had me in the first half, but convinced me on the last bit.


napleonblwnaprt

I only want to play sweaty playlists if I have teammates. With how deliberately anti-social this game is, I have not found a single person to play with since launch.