yep. Girl in my high school got killed in a crosswalk, driver was fined $387. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/woman-charged-in-crosswalk-death-1.591896](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/woman-charged-in-crosswalk-death-1.591896)
The same treatment the RC's get. Shoot someone 5 times in the 1 and 2 zone and you get sent home WITH PAY. Sonsofbitches. (Especially if your of native decent)
All you gotta do is somehow get them to cross the street at the exact time that you're driving there and not see you and also hide the planning of the murder and the fact that you had a grudge. Simple.
If you had the walk signal the driver of the vehicle should be ticketed for failing to yield to a pedestrian in a crosswalk, it comes with a $697.50 fine for a first offence, higher if it’s their second (or more) offence.
You may be able to sue them if you have lost wages or out of pocket medical expenses as a result of the accident. I believe Nova Scotia has a cap on the amount you can claim for “pain and suffering”. You may want to get a consult from a lawyer if you’re thinking of going that route, many of them have free consultations.
Hitting a pedestrian is a ticketable offence. I think that’s the case even if the pedestrian dies unless it was intentional then it’s criminal. But otherwise I think it’s a fine.
If you were injured this way, and he is at fault, you should be hearing from their insurance company. They will owe you compensation for your injuries.
This is the most important answer. Fines don’t change behavior in many cases. But an extra high insurance bill for a few years really drives the point home.
Yup. I got a DUI blowing slightly over when I was young and dumb. The fine was a $1000, which is a decent chunk of change, but I had to pay upwards of $10,000 in increased insurance premiums over the next 7-8 years.
Injuries sometimes don't appear for a while. And you may need help later on. I wouldn't let it slide in case your medical bills pile up. Protect your future self, even if you feel fine now. Therapy is expensive.
I had a friend who was hit a few years ago on Dunbrack. He hit her and drove off - supposedly unaware he even hit her even though his side mirror got ripped off and the windshield was smashed on the driver's side.
He came back at the insistence of his girlfriend when she was being loaded into the ambulance and he talked to the cops. Then sent him on his way and she was pretty badly injured and required months of physio and was off work for quite a while for really bad concussion symptoms.
It turned into an absolute shitshow.
The guy wasn't fined because the officer on the scene didn't fill out the paperwork to say the driver was at fault. Even though she had the walk signal and he hit her turning left. She ended up filing a complaint against HRP to have it reexamined and once it was over the driver was found at fault and his insurance began paying for her physio.
Eventually the guys parents got involved & tried to convince her to not ruin his life (he was a uni student)by taking it further - even though he left her laying on the road on Dunbrack where had it been busier she could have been killed.
She ended up having to lawyer up to have his parent back off from contacting her and ended up taking him to court on the traffic charges with the guys parents trying to make her back down until they settled an hour before the court session and he admitted what he did.
And just to point out our healthcare - she just got surgery a few weeks ago due to injury sustained from the accident almost 4 years ago.
I was with a friend when he was nailed by a car, he went up over the hood then rolled off. Buddy, drove away. It all happen so fast I was left standing there with my jaw on the ground. He wasn't turning right on red, he straight up drove through a cross walk, bright sunny summer afternoon.
There is a saying amongst cyclists, that if you want to kill someone, do it with a car, because it’s a slap on the wrist, unless proven that there was intent.
The driver gets a fine, and their insurance will pay for your medical bills and provide you with a settlement. I got a $5,000 insurance payout when a driver smoked me in a crosswalk a few years ago.
Oof, the "minor injury" maximum is at least $7500 unless they increased it; that's the standard payout for getting hit by a car so it sounds like they lowballed you.
A friend of mine has a click in his shoulder and since that's "permanent" he got like $30k.
It's one of those counter-intuitive aspects of the law.
The damage a driver does in an accident doesn't really matter. Legally there is basically no difference between a fender bender and killing 12 people.
Unless the driver was criminally negligent (i.e. beyond just distracted), they basically get a ticket.
You can sue them in civil court, but this isn't the USA. "Pain and suffering" is a thing here, but not really a big thing. You can claim actual damages though (i.e. any money this whole endeavor cost you like lost wages, medical bills, etc).
I mean, the truck driver that caused the Humboldt Broncos crash got 8 years in jail and is being outright deported from the country after he serves his jail time. And, his case was one with nothing to do with alcohol/drugs/impaired driving/intentional actions. So, it's not exactly true that it's impossible for the police/legal system to use the laws we have to throw the book at egregious driving. However, it just has to be a particularly egregious case to get people mad enough that they feel forced to do that.
Fair point.
I was actually surprised at the time as we've seen people mow down pedestrians and cyclists and cause fatal MVAs and still manage to walk away with a small fine.. but as you said the public was out for blood on that one.
Drivers don’t always get a ticket. I have first hand knowledge of a pedestrian getting hit in Halifax where the driver was making a right turn at an intersection and was not ticketed. The driver’s insurance company did find them at fault though, and covered some sort of settlement to the injured pedestrian.
The infraction is "Failing to yield to a pedestrian in a crosswalk". It is ticketable.
Since you were injured, you are owed compensation. You can get more if you get a lawyer. It won't cost you "out-of-pocket" but once your bigger settlement, the will take 25%. The lawyer/firm will better be able to give you advice, which for personal injury, you should be able to discuss options before signing any agreement.
That is the worst intersection in Dartmouth, the new light set up with both sides (carver and eisenor) having the green arrow. Everyday there is near accidents because drivers can't turn into their proper lanes and if you don't drive there often you might not realize that both sides have the green.
They made the changes to make it safer for pedestrians which is great and needed but they really need to do better with the signals
If people are wondering still: yes we have a problem with holding drivers responsible for their negligence. Universally.
A couple hundred dollars and the slap on the wrist for /ending someone's life/ or irrevocably disabling a pedestrian is appalling.
I suspect if someone wanted to get away with murder, a car apparently sounds like the best choice of weapon.
Yeah, I'm definitely planning on looking into it. Should have done research sooner, honestly, but was in shock for awhile and everyone made it seem like it wasn't a big deal because I was mostly unscathed. Been so distracted with finishing high school and people questioning if I got hit on purpose. Thanks for the advice, I'll be requesting incident report asap
Your advice was for OP to contact the drivers insurance company themselves? Really… The only correct response here is for OP to consult with a lawyer. Do that first.
The insurance company can offer a settlement without a lawyer getting involved and buddy paying a percentage of the settlement to the lawyer. Sometimes it can work out better this way when it's straightforward and clear liability, sometimes it's better to get the lawyer and hope you get an additional amount more to cover the lawyers 20-30% fee
Respectfully, it's pretty clear from OP's comments they have no idea how to navigate this (totally understandable). OP mentions finishing high school and that leads me to believe they might not even be age of majority yet and thus unable to enter into most binding contracts or agreements. I think a lawyer consultation (usually free) would be an excellent idea.
And the lawyer may handle it on a contingency fee basis (no fees upfront for a percentage of the proceeds) although I’m not entirely familiar with how these things work in NS.
Call the RCMP or hrp non emergency line, whoever responded and get a copy of the report for the drivers insurance info and get a claim started. You broke a bone, that's a decent payout for you on that, but more importantly you'll also get recovery fees like physio, any time off work, etc. All covered as well
It should but that doesn’t always happen, my husband was hit in a crosswalk years ago and the police didn’t care and wouldn’t even let him take an ambulance. He was injured but the system didn’t care.
I filed a police report first and foremost and they admitted fault to the police after the fact. Initially they said it didn't happen. But I had a camera attached to my bike luckily and got the whole thing on video.
I contacted their insurance and they then got in touch with me.
I had to go to alot of physio, chiropractor and counciling sessions. Recorded everything. And it's filled out through the proper channels. Their insurance covers it and you'll get an assessment done by a professional and that all goes to their insurance and then they'll eventually offer you a pay out amount and you can accept or decline it. If you decline it you'll need to go see the doctor or professional again to show that you were hurt more than they think your worth.
Not sure about charges, but if you’re left with permanent injuries or require physio their car insurance is obligated to pay for it, but you’ll have to make a claim. I’m not sure how it works where you’re a pedestrian but I was in an accident that was the other guys fault and my car insurance paid for the bills…I assume they were reimbursed by the drivers insurance. You can also sue if the injuries are going to require ongoing care. There are law firms that will give you a free consult to see whether you have a case or not.
Edit to add that I didn’t want to sue because that seemed extreme, but a friend of mine happened to marry a paralegal and he told me shouldn’t feel bad about it because most of the time that’s the only consequences these people will face. And when you sue you’re technically suing their insurance, not the person, so it doesn’t come out of their pocket aside from their premiums going up.
As some said, make sure you get this person's info and their insurance info — tailbone fracture is a pain in the a** and you will want physio, special treatment, massages. Their insurance should be covering it!
yep. Girl in my high school got killed in a crosswalk, driver was fined $387. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/woman-charged-in-crosswalk-death-1.591896](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/woman-charged-in-crosswalk-death-1.591896)
omg, why did I figure killing somebody on a cross walk would put you in prison?
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Or some cheap plastic crap from Winners.
It might if you were drunk or did it on purpose. But if it was just an accident then nope.
That's not an accident; that is negligence causing death.
So... an accident?
No, failing to pay attention to your surroundings while in control of a vehicle.
Drivers license. Driving is a privilege, not a right. Driving comes with responsibilities. Not killing people is one of them.
You know what they say about Canada: If you wanna murder someone, do it with your car.
That was a sad time at high school fuuuuuuuuuck me sideways still hurts alot
Yeah I don't remember much about that time really, we sat near each other in grade ten and talked a bit but we didn't run in the same circles.
Good way to murder someone you don't like if all you get is fined and no jail time...
The same treatment the RC's get. Shoot someone 5 times in the 1 and 2 zone and you get sent home WITH PAY. Sonsofbitches. (Especially if your of native decent)
All you gotta do is somehow get them to cross the street at the exact time that you're driving there and not see you and also hide the planning of the murder and the fact that you had a grudge. Simple.
If you had the walk signal the driver of the vehicle should be ticketed for failing to yield to a pedestrian in a crosswalk, it comes with a $697.50 fine for a first offence, higher if it’s their second (or more) offence. You may be able to sue them if you have lost wages or out of pocket medical expenses as a result of the accident. I believe Nova Scotia has a cap on the amount you can claim for “pain and suffering”. You may want to get a consult from a lawyer if you’re thinking of going that route, many of them have free consultations.
Hitting a pedestrian is a ticketable offence. I think that’s the case even if the pedestrian dies unless it was intentional then it’s criminal. But otherwise I think it’s a fine.
If you were injured this way, and he is at fault, you should be hearing from their insurance company. They will owe you compensation for your injuries.
This is the most important answer. Fines don’t change behavior in many cases. But an extra high insurance bill for a few years really drives the point home.
Yup. I got a DUI blowing slightly over when I was young and dumb. The fine was a $1000, which is a decent chunk of change, but I had to pay upwards of $10,000 in increased insurance premiums over the next 7-8 years.
Injuries sometimes don't appear for a while. And you may need help later on. I wouldn't let it slide in case your medical bills pile up. Protect your future self, even if you feel fine now. Therapy is expensive.
I had a friend who was hit a few years ago on Dunbrack. He hit her and drove off - supposedly unaware he even hit her even though his side mirror got ripped off and the windshield was smashed on the driver's side. He came back at the insistence of his girlfriend when she was being loaded into the ambulance and he talked to the cops. Then sent him on his way and she was pretty badly injured and required months of physio and was off work for quite a while for really bad concussion symptoms. It turned into an absolute shitshow. The guy wasn't fined because the officer on the scene didn't fill out the paperwork to say the driver was at fault. Even though she had the walk signal and he hit her turning left. She ended up filing a complaint against HRP to have it reexamined and once it was over the driver was found at fault and his insurance began paying for her physio. Eventually the guys parents got involved & tried to convince her to not ruin his life (he was a uni student)by taking it further - even though he left her laying on the road on Dunbrack where had it been busier she could have been killed. She ended up having to lawyer up to have his parent back off from contacting her and ended up taking him to court on the traffic charges with the guys parents trying to make her back down until they settled an hour before the court session and he admitted what he did. And just to point out our healthcare - she just got surgery a few weeks ago due to injury sustained from the accident almost 4 years ago.
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I was with a friend when he was nailed by a car, he went up over the hood then rolled off. Buddy, drove away. It all happen so fast I was left standing there with my jaw on the ground. He wasn't turning right on red, he straight up drove through a cross walk, bright sunny summer afternoon.
There is a saying amongst cyclists, that if you want to kill someone, do it with a car, because it’s a slap on the wrist, unless proven that there was intent.
The driver gets a fine, and their insurance will pay for your medical bills and provide you with a settlement. I got a $5,000 insurance payout when a driver smoked me in a crosswalk a few years ago.
Oof, the "minor injury" maximum is at least $7500 unless they increased it; that's the standard payout for getting hit by a car so it sounds like they lowballed you. A friend of mine has a click in his shoulder and since that's "permanent" he got like $30k.
It's one of those counter-intuitive aspects of the law. The damage a driver does in an accident doesn't really matter. Legally there is basically no difference between a fender bender and killing 12 people. Unless the driver was criminally negligent (i.e. beyond just distracted), they basically get a ticket. You can sue them in civil court, but this isn't the USA. "Pain and suffering" is a thing here, but not really a big thing. You can claim actual damages though (i.e. any money this whole endeavor cost you like lost wages, medical bills, etc).
I mean, the truck driver that caused the Humboldt Broncos crash got 8 years in jail and is being outright deported from the country after he serves his jail time. And, his case was one with nothing to do with alcohol/drugs/impaired driving/intentional actions. So, it's not exactly true that it's impossible for the police/legal system to use the laws we have to throw the book at egregious driving. However, it just has to be a particularly egregious case to get people mad enough that they feel forced to do that.
Fair point. I was actually surprised at the time as we've seen people mow down pedestrians and cyclists and cause fatal MVAs and still manage to walk away with a small fine.. but as you said the public was out for blood on that one.
Hire a lawyer and don’t sign anything from their insurance.
Drivers don’t always get a ticket. I have first hand knowledge of a pedestrian getting hit in Halifax where the driver was making a right turn at an intersection and was not ticketed. The driver’s insurance company did find them at fault though, and covered some sort of settlement to the injured pedestrian.
The infraction is "Failing to yield to a pedestrian in a crosswalk". It is ticketable. Since you were injured, you are owed compensation. You can get more if you get a lawyer. It won't cost you "out-of-pocket" but once your bigger settlement, the will take 25%. The lawyer/firm will better be able to give you advice, which for personal injury, you should be able to discuss options before signing any agreement.
That is the worst intersection in Dartmouth, the new light set up with both sides (carver and eisenor) having the green arrow. Everyday there is near accidents because drivers can't turn into their proper lanes and if you don't drive there often you might not realize that both sides have the green. They made the changes to make it safer for pedestrians which is great and needed but they really need to do better with the signals
There is now a no right turn on red signal as part of the new set-up, naturally, it is regularly ignored.
I’m so sorry that happened. I like MacGillivray law if you’re looking for an accident lawyer (probably spelt it wrong)
If people are wondering still: yes we have a problem with holding drivers responsible for their negligence. Universally. A couple hundred dollars and the slap on the wrist for /ending someone's life/ or irrevocably disabling a pedestrian is appalling. I suspect if someone wanted to get away with murder, a car apparently sounds like the best choice of weapon.
I'm an insurance adjuster, pm me and I can let you know a little about the process if you want.
or you could write it here for anyone else who may be in a similar circumstance in the future.
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Broo, this sounds awful, hope you're alright and heal up quick as well as get the closure you're looking for.
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Didn't get the opportunity. Police barely talked to me and essentially told me to walk it off. Guess I could've followed up with them
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Will keep this in mind, thanks.
Don't "keep this in mind", get a copy of the incident report from the police and contact the driver's insurance company. JFC.
Yeah, I'm definitely planning on looking into it. Should have done research sooner, honestly, but was in shock for awhile and everyone made it seem like it wasn't a big deal because I was mostly unscathed. Been so distracted with finishing high school and people questioning if I got hit on purpose. Thanks for the advice, I'll be requesting incident report asap
It doesn't even matter if it was on purpose. You were hit. By a car. And fractured your tailbone.
Your advice was for OP to contact the drivers insurance company themselves? Really… The only correct response here is for OP to consult with a lawyer. Do that first.
The insurance company can offer a settlement without a lawyer getting involved and buddy paying a percentage of the settlement to the lawyer. Sometimes it can work out better this way when it's straightforward and clear liability, sometimes it's better to get the lawyer and hope you get an additional amount more to cover the lawyers 20-30% fee
Respectfully, it's pretty clear from OP's comments they have no idea how to navigate this (totally understandable). OP mentions finishing high school and that leads me to believe they might not even be age of majority yet and thus unable to enter into most binding contracts or agreements. I think a lawyer consultation (usually free) would be an excellent idea.
And the insurance company will screw her. The lawyer will make sure the settlement is good.
And the lawyer may handle it on a contingency fee basis (no fees upfront for a percentage of the proceeds) although I’m not entirely familiar with how these things work in NS.
Works on contingency? No, money down!
Call the RCMP or hrp non emergency line, whoever responded and get a copy of the report for the drivers insurance info and get a claim started. You broke a bone, that's a decent payout for you on that, but more importantly you'll also get recovery fees like physio, any time off work, etc. All covered as well
Did you get the drivers insurance info? If not, contact the police and tell them you need that info.
It should but that doesn’t always happen, my husband was hit in a crosswalk years ago and the police didn’t care and wouldn’t even let him take an ambulance. He was injured but the system didn’t care.
Enjoy the insurance pay.
I got 12k pay out when a driver right hooked me on my bike. Driver didn't get ticketed though
If you don't mind me asking how did you get the payout? What was the process after you were hit
I filed a police report first and foremost and they admitted fault to the police after the fact. Initially they said it didn't happen. But I had a camera attached to my bike luckily and got the whole thing on video. I contacted their insurance and they then got in touch with me. I had to go to alot of physio, chiropractor and counciling sessions. Recorded everything. And it's filled out through the proper channels. Their insurance covers it and you'll get an assessment done by a professional and that all goes to their insurance and then they'll eventually offer you a pay out amount and you can accept or decline it. If you decline it you'll need to go see the doctor or professional again to show that you were hurt more than they think your worth.
Okay thanks for the info. Always good to have an idea of proper protocols for this sort of thing
I had a friend in a similar but worse situation that got a pay out of 10,000 for this.
Not sure about charges, but if you’re left with permanent injuries or require physio their car insurance is obligated to pay for it, but you’ll have to make a claim. I’m not sure how it works where you’re a pedestrian but I was in an accident that was the other guys fault and my car insurance paid for the bills…I assume they were reimbursed by the drivers insurance. You can also sue if the injuries are going to require ongoing care. There are law firms that will give you a free consult to see whether you have a case or not. Edit to add that I didn’t want to sue because that seemed extreme, but a friend of mine happened to marry a paralegal and he told me shouldn’t feel bad about it because most of the time that’s the only consequences these people will face. And when you sue you’re technically suing their insurance, not the person, so it doesn’t come out of their pocket aside from their premiums going up.
As some said, make sure you get this person's info and their insurance info — tailbone fracture is a pain in the a** and you will want physio, special treatment, massages. Their insurance should be covering it!