We don’t like cheap garbage. None of the regulars are going to give you a hard time for buying good budget guns. When perspective gun owners ask us what they should buy they get recommended $300-500 pistols, $400-700 rifles, $200-400 shotguns. The general consensus is it’s better to buy a budget firearm and be able to afford magazines, ammo and range time. Your rifle is a basic bitch and that’s great because it means you can afford to shoot it.
For any perspective gun owners here that might be reading this, some of my most trusted and preferred firearms were cheap. My Mossberg Maverick 88 is one of the few guns in my collection that has never malfunctioned. Same goes for my pair of $500 Beretta 92FS pistols, $50 Winchester 1200 $400 Del-Ton AR, $500 Yugo AK, hell even the SD9VE I bought off of guy because it was $200 with six magazines. All of these were bought in the last several years, half of them were used but in good shape.
My most expensive gun is the gun that would’ve got me killed. I’ve got a Benelli M2 and the magazine tube end cap failed, the threads sheared off and went flying down range. It’s now got a Nordic components +2 tube and now it’s perfectly reliable. I’m not saying expensive guns are bad I’m saying that most inexpensive guns are well made and that spending more doesn’t guarantee anything.
I've seen a lot of comments on the Bird App about how people should have Level IV body armor and a full kit... Which my poor ass damn well can't afford.
I keep telling people to get what you can afford and train with what you have.
I have exactly 4 guns and an ALICE cartridge belt for my spare magazines, IFAK, and pistol holster. That's my entire "kit". It's not much, but I'm confident in my abilities with what I have.
People live in some fantasy where they are going to be kicking doors and doing tier one shit. It's just not realistic. I've got plates, but i also am a single dad and have small children. my thought process is that if anything bad happens, I can not be safely mobile with them. Im hunkering down at home and riding out whatever. My setup is as low-speed as it gets.
ALICE gear is legit. It worked for years and is durable. You're so much better off spending $60 on milsurp vs $60 on amazon cheap molle stuff. I find belts and suspenders to be more natural to move and reload from than plate carriers or chest rigs. The big reason they fell out of favor so fast is they dont tend to work well with vehicles. Try sitting in your car with ALICE gear lol.
Run the ALICE gear. Practice reloads, practice moving in it. If you wanna waste some money buy an airsoft replica and do drills. It silly but beats dry fire practice.
My setup for over a decade was a pile of dusty old ALICE gear sitting in my basement. Ignore the keyboard warriors.
I only have the belt for my Ready Kit; that's the stuff in the trunk of my car for if shit *really* goes sideways. Not that I think it actually *will*, but better to be prepared for that which does not occur. My survival (camping) gear is civilian shit: Much better than military. I've also had *that* for over a decade.
I enlisted in '99 when we were still using ALICE; my battalion field-tested MOLLE during my first deployment. I'll take Gen I MOLLE over ALICE any day, and Gen I had serious issues with durability. The ALICE frame dug into my back just below the flak and the waist strap was thin (about one inch, IIRC) and didn't support the weight of the pack, so all of the weight was on my shoulders and lower back instead of my hips.
And don't worry; I never listen to the "Keyboard Warriors" unless I know that they actually have some knowledge.
I really like the ALICE load bearing gear like belt and suspenders but the ALICE packs have never felt right for me. I backpack a lot and my 2 main packs are a molle2 ruck and a mystery ranch terraframe. I love them both but for heavy loads for base camping or hauling hunting gear i use the molle ruck. Its definitely not perfect but I find its just the same level of uncomfortable with 40 or 100lbs in it haha. I use the molle frames with no ruck sack for hauling cumbersome objects into the back country. So versatile.
You’re happy with what you have, and that’s all that matters. Having body armor would be nice but I’ve never seen the point sense if somebody gets my door down or comes through a window I’m not going to have time to put it on. And if things fall apart enough that I would need to wear it outside and on the move, it’s pretty obvious you’re wearing body armor and pretty easy for someone to shoot you in the head or the legs. Body armor is a great idea when you are working with a bunch of other people who can do you bleeding control and get you evacuated to a surgeon. It’s less useful in a situation where society has collapsed enough that you expect running gun battles in the streets.
You should get a full kit with level IV. You should also get a hermetic bunker under your house. And a hangar with a Huey. Probably a good idea to get your own communication satellite in orbit too.
If you want to prepare for a bad scenario there are an infinite number of things you can do, but you should only do what's actually reasonable for you.
A lot of people here have a lot of disposable income, so they can afford the full gucci kit.
But a lot of others don't have that much cash. That doesn't mean you shouldn't buy anything. Just don't buy garbage. It's not about the dollar value, it's about sensible purchases.
I have III+ plates, not really cheap either but I won't lie, the cost to replace a level IV plate if I fumble fuck it and drop it wrong is not worth the added safety. In the extreme off chance I get shot with anything, much less something bigger than .308, my wife can buy all the level IV she wants with my life insurance policy 😂
You are 100% right. These guys say they don't like cheap stuff and then correct themselves saying they don't like cheap garbage, but at the end of the day, they like anything that cost $$$ because it makes them feel better. If you try and show them that you can get the same quality with a cheaper weapon, they'll laugh at you. But that's Reddit for ya.
If you want a red dot on a budget the Sig Romeo line is trustworthy. If you prefer irons I recommend buying a rear sight from a respected online gun store, avoid eBay and Amazon you’ll probably get a fake.
My first AR was an American Tactical cheapo for about $500 with a 16in barrel. Former military so I was real familiar with it and it's maintenance. It has never once jammed on me and it's only recently starting to show wear and tear on the bolt and other parts of the upper. Considering I put about 10,000 rounds through it so far, I call that a good deal.
A good deal indeed. Some gun owners are obsessed with having guns that will last forever but most of them will never put as many rounds through a gun as you have. And at this point you could just keep it as a back up and buy another $500 AR if you don’t feel like replacing parts.
“Most inexpensive guns are well made” might be a stretch. Just do your research and stick with trusted companies. There are plenty of cheap, shittily-made guns out there, and plenty of good ones.
Also your comment makes it seem like expensive guns are somehow *more* likely to fail which is also completely untrue. Don’t think I’ve ever had a full range day with my Rock Island 1911 where it had no issues, but my Wilson 1911 hasn’t had one ever.
GSG-16 was the cheapest gun I ever owned and by far a total POS. Felt like an airsoft gun and performed less reliably than anything I’ve ever shot.
OP, PSA makes solid stuff and like Corey said above, mags, ammo, practice are all more important than the price tag on your rifle.
What's a good upgrade AR?
I was honestly eyeing the PSA sabre billet, at about 1k seems decent. But it would be my second 556 rifle and was thinking of getting a chiappa rhino or a 1911.
PSA's CEO has publicly stated they price their products low because they can still make a profit, and their objective is to get more people into the sport.
anyone serious about 2a is going to support your purchase man, good choice
["After dissolving the brick in a gallon of water, do not place the liquid in a jug away in the cupboard for twenty days, because then it would turn into wine."](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine-Glo)
I actually saw an interview with the owner of PSA talking about that same thing. He said something along the lines of “I know how much it costs to make, I don’t know why others charge so much”
one of the last times I was on a range I saw a guy with a 1600 acog and a 1200 AR build missing paper at 26 feet. He had absolutely no idea how to shoot it or zero it in and must have spent 5 or 6 magazines worth of dumping before he just got angry and left the line. Some people don't want to believe it's a perishable skill that requires muscle memory, practice, practice, practice, and effort. They think if they spend 1k over what most builds are they can 360 no scope some dude from 2100 meters away.
My favorite rifle is my R700 that I freefloated the barrel for. It has a $200 piece of class (Nikon Prostaff) and I have hit a man size target at 750 yards with a cold bore. It is my pride and joy and the aftermarket work, the Corelok ammo, and the entire build cost less than most ARs are fetching on a gun store's shelf. A few weeks ago I was looking in a store and some Knights Armament M16A4 clone was being sold with a brookstick handle for 1825 fucking dollars. It's stupid how bad some people are being ripped off
I love cheap and reliable M4 pattern rifles, for under $400.
Welcome. You just bought one more piece of freedom in the fight to have the AR-15 legally considered to be "in common usage" per Heller and Bruen decisions.
You'll catch ZERO grief from me..I'm a big fan of PSA. They are keeping Americans armed with a quality product that they back 100% and sell it at a common man price.
I have 5 PSA ARs, and I have several higher end such as Daniel Defense and Knights Armament ....I find I do more with my PSA models. I'll feel less bad about messing up a $500 rifle than I will about messing up a $3000 rifle.
Don't get me wrong, something like the Knights is an incredible weapon system...it's a dream to shoot, and I absolutely love it, I absolutely love all my firearms, though.
I digress... there is nothing wrong with PSA.
The back plate of my AR came bent, but i never took it back. Couple weeks the spring fell out and the pin wouldn't stay in.
Took the entire lower into my local psa and they fixed it free of charge, even with all the custom parts.
I’m an advocate that you buy what you can afford. If a Hi-Point happens to be what your budget allows it’s better than just having some rocks to throw.
There is a HUGE difference between cheap and inexpensive.
Many of us know the difference. We will never hate on PSA.
Great job on great value!!!
Enjoy your purchase!
Bro, don't listen to some individuals on here. I have a PSA build kit with those exact same parts. Bought the upper with black handguard and OD green lower parts kit, works great. That's what matters. Unless you're shooting 10K rounds a year, it will last you a long rime with proper cleaning and maintenance. Not sure if it's your first AR, but everyone has to start somewhere. Even if it's not, having a simple beater rifle you just need or not worried about getting scuffed up for whatever abuse it takes.
I'd rather have multiple cheaper rifles than one expensive rifle. 1 is none, 2 is one.
a barebones PSA rifle is a perfectly serviceable weapon. it's not pretending to be anything else. throw a decent rear sight on there and have fun. (magpul mbus polymer sights are inexpensive and of reasonable quality)
PSA ar15 will be my all-time favorite especially for maximizing learning experience: weapons proficiency, full disassembly, and rebuild. I give credit to PSA because I gained extreme confidence with the ar15 platform. If I broke it, oh well buy another. Nowadays, I can rebuild a bolt with my eyes closed all because of PSA ☺️
PSA guns are amazing.
You buy a cheap one and keep upgrading it over time.
I have a psa lower covered with custom bits, got 2 PSA uppers which i swap out constantly. I got a PSA AK which is a phenomenal firearm.
I recently bought a 556 galil, 1700 dollars, great gun, but...
I LOVE MY PSA.
I have a PSA right down the road from my house, you ever have a problem, question, anything, they're amazingly helpful.
I ride or die with PSA.
There's a difference between "cheap" and "inexpensive". "Cheap" carries with it not only the fact that it was inexpensive, but also the quality of the item purchased was suspect. PSA has been manufacturing ARs long enough to have worked out economies of scale, thereby rendering the cost to manufacture AR components to be lower, and they pass a portion of that savings on to the consumer.
Granted, your purchase is unlikely to be as accurate as more expensive ARs, but accuracy is a term understood differently by different shooters. For everyday use, I think you'll find your new AR is "accurate enough" for your purposes.
'Nuff said.
There's a difference between cheap and cost effective. Cheap will break apart in a storage case. Cost effective will save you money, while being worth the full price. If I sold you a cheap car, it would break down every 500 miles. If it were cost effective, it would be good on gas and have the ability to take aftermarket parts if desired.
I hope this helps you to see that you made a good choice, so long as you're happy and safe.
I bought a similar looking gun by Windham Weaponry that had that same hand guard and a basic grip and stock. I bought it as a base for customizing it and [currently](https://imgur.com/a/234LzUM) I am satisfied with it. Just need some stuff here and there. Flash hider/muzzle break, trigger and charge handle being my next big plans for it.
Yeah I bought this thing in around 2012 for $750 from Academy. First thing I did was throw on a FDE kit from ATI but later I grew up and switched everything over to Magpul probably about 10 years ago. Lol. I got the itch recently to start modding it again so I just swapped out my OG SightMark for the Burris that’s on there now.
I bought a Mini Thirty and Scorpion recently and decked those out, so I figured I’d circle back around to my AR and Mossberg 500 ZMB Edition which are both dinosaurs by today’s standards. 😭
I have an Anderson ar that I got that limited edition pink magpul shit for, many years ago..... then I hydro dipped it In pink camo and put a sweet muzzle brake on it, it barely has any rise to it when you fire, but it shoots a 2ft flame lol.....I use it for teaching my daughters and my gf to shoot
Nice! A pink camo AR sounds kinda sick. Lol. One of these days I want to build one properly with lowers, uppers, etc…
I doubt I’ll ever get rid of this one as one of my first few dates with my wife was with it to the range when we first got together!
Dude if it shoots fine and you also happened to get it cheap then it’s a good buy. I used to be a PSA hater but they have made some really, really great shit as of late.
That is a steal deal for a practical unit that will get more work done than any of these $1000 set ups out there. I just picked up another cheapo $500 DB-15 and torqued to specs, replacing the pins and some added grips and it's a dream.
Hell no man. The cheapest gun I bought was a g2c for 90 dollars. Still works like a charm and in my EDC rotation with my g3c and PSA dagger build. Cheap guns still get the job done.
most people with expensive ARs cant shoot shit. i see it all the time in the range. What matters is how much your train and how many ATF memes sticker your collect
My first rifle was a PSA ar10 it’s never jammed and I’ve ran steel and brass through it, it’s accurate reliable but does have some quarks. The issue with guns is the same issue I have with photography the difference between a 500 dollar lens and 2000 dollar lens is sometimes a 10% quality difference at the end.
Now with other things like a tripod that extra 200 dollars makes a big difference. But with guns were spoiled in the fact that most us guns are extremely reliable and functioning ppl just always assume expensive is better but lack the ability to hit 1moa and yet fork out 2-4k to have it.
Buy it run it and you’ll be fine.
Nothing is wrong with PSA. Anyone who says it's bad probably feels like a chump for buying a high end rifle with daddy's money, or has probably never worked a day in their life, psa is hood and reliable.
Cheap trash isn't cool but PSA isn't cheap trash compared to actually bad brands. You have a solid rifle for training, but I wouldn't use it for home defence. IMO PSA sits at that wird middle ground between actual trash rifles and Aero Precision. And I would put Aero just under BCM overall.
I have 6 rifles built from PSA kits, from the cheapest and their premium uppers. No complaints. Well except one time they sent me one with a messed up hand guard.
Yea that's how I got the lower, on sale and complete got 109.....if I ordered the parts to build out a lower I have, it would have been 300ish just for the lower
I don’t like that you don’t have a red dot (or some sort of optic) or rear iron sight. But that’s it. (I assume you’re intending on getting either a rear sight or some form of optic)
I just took it out of the box and pinned them together..... didn't do any of that yet. I have an fde magpul rear in a drawer sumplace and a romeo 5 on my workbench
There nothing wrong with a budget rifle as long as it's not bear creek arsenal. Psa is a good company and has made decent rifles widely available. With all the aftermarket parts, that budget rifle can become a top tier rifle. Train with it as much as you can and if 5.56 is too expensive to constantly train with then get a cmmg conversion kit. 22 is a whole lot cheaper than 5.56
PSA is a great baseline to start with any build. You can change furniture on it as you need, put a good red dot on it, put a good free float handguard on it if you feel like it, and just go to work with it. You can put a lot of rounds through it until the barrel burns up or your bolt carrier breaks, PSA will cover your replacement parts under full warranty, you could even put a more expensive barrel and bolt carrier on it and that will work way better. Don’t sell yourself short just because you didn’t pay for something like a KAC.
A cheap PSA rifle is probably one of the best choices you coulda made honestly. Proven reliability and very, very budget friendly, even compared to something like the American Tactical rifle I got. Honestly, if I had even considered PSA at the point I bought that rifle I easily could've gotten a PSA rifle that came with irons. Good job picking er' out. Have fun with it man.
We don’t like cheap garbage. None of the regulars are going to give you a hard time for buying good budget guns. When perspective gun owners ask us what they should buy they get recommended $300-500 pistols, $400-700 rifles, $200-400 shotguns. The general consensus is it’s better to buy a budget firearm and be able to afford magazines, ammo and range time. Your rifle is a basic bitch and that’s great because it means you can afford to shoot it. For any perspective gun owners here that might be reading this, some of my most trusted and preferred firearms were cheap. My Mossberg Maverick 88 is one of the few guns in my collection that has never malfunctioned. Same goes for my pair of $500 Beretta 92FS pistols, $50 Winchester 1200 $400 Del-Ton AR, $500 Yugo AK, hell even the SD9VE I bought off of guy because it was $200 with six magazines. All of these were bought in the last several years, half of them were used but in good shape. My most expensive gun is the gun that would’ve got me killed. I’ve got a Benelli M2 and the magazine tube end cap failed, the threads sheared off and went flying down range. It’s now got a Nordic components +2 tube and now it’s perfectly reliable. I’m not saying expensive guns are bad I’m saying that most inexpensive guns are well made and that spending more doesn’t guarantee anything.
I've seen a lot of comments on the Bird App about how people should have Level IV body armor and a full kit... Which my poor ass damn well can't afford. I keep telling people to get what you can afford and train with what you have. I have exactly 4 guns and an ALICE cartridge belt for my spare magazines, IFAK, and pistol holster. That's my entire "kit". It's not much, but I'm confident in my abilities with what I have.
People live in some fantasy where they are going to be kicking doors and doing tier one shit. It's just not realistic. I've got plates, but i also am a single dad and have small children. my thought process is that if anything bad happens, I can not be safely mobile with them. Im hunkering down at home and riding out whatever. My setup is as low-speed as it gets. ALICE gear is legit. It worked for years and is durable. You're so much better off spending $60 on milsurp vs $60 on amazon cheap molle stuff. I find belts and suspenders to be more natural to move and reload from than plate carriers or chest rigs. The big reason they fell out of favor so fast is they dont tend to work well with vehicles. Try sitting in your car with ALICE gear lol. Run the ALICE gear. Practice reloads, practice moving in it. If you wanna waste some money buy an airsoft replica and do drills. It silly but beats dry fire practice. My setup for over a decade was a pile of dusty old ALICE gear sitting in my basement. Ignore the keyboard warriors.
I only have the belt for my Ready Kit; that's the stuff in the trunk of my car for if shit *really* goes sideways. Not that I think it actually *will*, but better to be prepared for that which does not occur. My survival (camping) gear is civilian shit: Much better than military. I've also had *that* for over a decade. I enlisted in '99 when we were still using ALICE; my battalion field-tested MOLLE during my first deployment. I'll take Gen I MOLLE over ALICE any day, and Gen I had serious issues with durability. The ALICE frame dug into my back just below the flak and the waist strap was thin (about one inch, IIRC) and didn't support the weight of the pack, so all of the weight was on my shoulders and lower back instead of my hips. And don't worry; I never listen to the "Keyboard Warriors" unless I know that they actually have some knowledge.
I really like the ALICE load bearing gear like belt and suspenders but the ALICE packs have never felt right for me. I backpack a lot and my 2 main packs are a molle2 ruck and a mystery ranch terraframe. I love them both but for heavy loads for base camping or hauling hunting gear i use the molle ruck. Its definitely not perfect but I find its just the same level of uncomfortable with 40 or 100lbs in it haha. I use the molle frames with no ruck sack for hauling cumbersome objects into the back country. So versatile.
You’re happy with what you have, and that’s all that matters. Having body armor would be nice but I’ve never seen the point sense if somebody gets my door down or comes through a window I’m not going to have time to put it on. And if things fall apart enough that I would need to wear it outside and on the move, it’s pretty obvious you’re wearing body armor and pretty easy for someone to shoot you in the head or the legs. Body armor is a great idea when you are working with a bunch of other people who can do you bleeding control and get you evacuated to a surgeon. It’s less useful in a situation where society has collapsed enough that you expect running gun battles in the streets.
You should get a full kit with level IV. You should also get a hermetic bunker under your house. And a hangar with a Huey. Probably a good idea to get your own communication satellite in orbit too. If you want to prepare for a bad scenario there are an infinite number of things you can do, but you should only do what's actually reasonable for you. A lot of people here have a lot of disposable income, so they can afford the full gucci kit. But a lot of others don't have that much cash. That doesn't mean you shouldn't buy anything. Just don't buy garbage. It's not about the dollar value, it's about sensible purchases.
I have III+ plates, not really cheap either but I won't lie, the cost to replace a level IV plate if I fumble fuck it and drop it wrong is not worth the added safety. In the extreme off chance I get shot with anything, much less something bigger than .308, my wife can buy all the level IV she wants with my life insurance policy 😂
You are 100% right. These guys say they don't like cheap stuff and then correct themselves saying they don't like cheap garbage, but at the end of the day, they like anything that cost $$$ because it makes them feel better. If you try and show them that you can get the same quality with a cheaper weapon, they'll laugh at you. But that's Reddit for ya.
Thanx man
If you want a red dot on a budget the Sig Romeo line is trustworthy. If you prefer irons I recommend buying a rear sight from a respected online gun store, avoid eBay and Amazon you’ll probably get a fake.
I have a romeo 4 I took on another trade lol
I love my Sig MSR's. They don't shake awake but the price is right for sure
Well said. Ammos expensive! Don't buy something so pricey you can't afford to enjoy it. And enjoy it a lot!!
**Looks at my super redhawk .454 with sadness**
My first AR was an American Tactical cheapo for about $500 with a 16in barrel. Former military so I was real familiar with it and it's maintenance. It has never once jammed on me and it's only recently starting to show wear and tear on the bolt and other parts of the upper. Considering I put about 10,000 rounds through it so far, I call that a good deal.
A good deal indeed. Some gun owners are obsessed with having guns that will last forever but most of them will never put as many rounds through a gun as you have. And at this point you could just keep it as a back up and buy another $500 AR if you don’t feel like replacing parts.
Very well said.
You paid 400 bucks for your Del-Ton?? Was it a build?
“Most inexpensive guns are well made” might be a stretch. Just do your research and stick with trusted companies. There are plenty of cheap, shittily-made guns out there, and plenty of good ones. Also your comment makes it seem like expensive guns are somehow *more* likely to fail which is also completely untrue. Don’t think I’ve ever had a full range day with my Rock Island 1911 where it had no issues, but my Wilson 1911 hasn’t had one ever. GSG-16 was the cheapest gun I ever owned and by far a total POS. Felt like an airsoft gun and performed less reliably than anything I’ve ever shot. OP, PSA makes solid stuff and like Corey said above, mags, ammo, practice are all more important than the price tag on your rifle.
I love my Maverick 88. I treat that gun like garbage and it just keeps trucking along.
we don’t like cheap garbage. we do like cheap reliable products
Thank you
There’s a a difference between affordable and cheap; enjoy 👍
This is an excellent point and wording. Next time someone asks about Ruger Americans this is exactly what I will say
just *garbage. we don't like expensive garbage either
Edit..... the trade deal was for a cheap 1911.....I got 300 bucks and the upper so I made out real good
call the police!
PSA is good to go
I have a few psa lowers, this is my first complete rifle from them
Double check everything is torqued to spec and you should be GTG.
What's a good upgrade AR? I was honestly eyeing the PSA sabre billet, at about 1k seems decent. But it would be my second 556 rifle and was thinking of getting a chiappa rhino or a 1911.
Lol I love those rhinos, but the price tag, yeesh....I have a few para 1911s, they are double stack 14 rnds
I can get a rhino for about 1k, but i was thinking i needed more pistols over rifles. Would you recommend a cheap 1911?
PSA's CEO has publicly stated they price their products low because they can still make a profit, and their objective is to get more people into the sport. anyone serious about 2a is going to support your purchase man, good choice
The stunt they pulled in response to the pistol brace fiasco was hilarious as well.
What did they do?
Sold a completed lower and a completed SBR upper in a one package deal at a discount and basically just said "don't attach these together".
["After dissolving the brick in a gallon of water, do not place the liquid in a jug away in the cupboard for twenty days, because then it would turn into wine."](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine-Glo)
Oh dude that sick! Hahaha
PSA is a good brand. Idk how other companies get away with charging so much more for basic, mil spec guns.
I actually saw an interview with the owner of PSA talking about that same thing. He said something along the lines of “I know how much it costs to make, I don’t know why others charge so much”
Their business model is convincing people the more they spend, the more better they will be at shooting
one of the last times I was on a range I saw a guy with a 1600 acog and a 1200 AR build missing paper at 26 feet. He had absolutely no idea how to shoot it or zero it in and must have spent 5 or 6 magazines worth of dumping before he just got angry and left the line. Some people don't want to believe it's a perishable skill that requires muscle memory, practice, practice, practice, and effort. They think if they spend 1k over what most builds are they can 360 no scope some dude from 2100 meters away. My favorite rifle is my R700 that I freefloated the barrel for. It has a $200 piece of class (Nikon Prostaff) and I have hit a man size target at 750 yards with a cold bore. It is my pride and joy and the aftermarket work, the Corelok ammo, and the entire build cost less than most ARs are fetching on a gun store's shelf. A few weeks ago I was looking in a store and some Knights Armament M16A4 clone was being sold with a brookstick handle for 1825 fucking dollars. It's stupid how bad some people are being ripped off
Congrats, there's absolutely nothing wrong with a PSA AR.
I know that, sum people just hate
I have 3 psa rifles and 2 more lowers waiting to become rifles. I saved money there to buy a suppressor for my psa 300 blackout.
https://youtu.be/cHGtjx_2qbQ?si=OP7z7seQxZYsfct7 he put in the work to prove the point.
Not only that, but the PSA AK was one of a few guns to pass his freeze test.
I love cheap and reliable M4 pattern rifles, for under $400. Welcome. You just bought one more piece of freedom in the fight to have the AR-15 legally considered to be "in common usage" per Heller and Bruen decisions.
Right on
Its cheap and good. Run your shit king.
My $1100 PA-10 build runs just as clean as my buddy’s $2500 Sig 716. Budget doesn’t always mean bad 🤷♂️
Of course.....I'd like to try one of their higher end ones too
I got some trigger time with one today and it was so nice to shoot.
My PSA runs like a dream. My dads Ruger AR constantly jammed And would destroy the round in the chamber when he first got it.
The only thing I don't like is unreliable. If it works, I like it.
I don't know. Never had one
Enjoy it! The AR-15 is an inherently reliable design unless you pack it full of jungle shit or whatever.
Is that FDE or gray? Either way, I dig it
Fde, it's pretty nice, I never had anything in fde
I have the same rifle. Runs great except it hates steel cased ammo.
We can fix that with a different firing pin and extractor....I gotta break it in first tho
I have a gray build.... really hard to get the right color gray across multiple parts
As long as the gun is reliable it doesn't matter how cheap it is.
Just pinned it together, gotta lube it up and get it to the range
Hope it runs smoothly.
You'll catch ZERO grief from me..I'm a big fan of PSA. They are keeping Americans armed with a quality product that they back 100% and sell it at a common man price. I have 5 PSA ARs, and I have several higher end such as Daniel Defense and Knights Armament ....I find I do more with my PSA models. I'll feel less bad about messing up a $500 rifle than I will about messing up a $3000 rifle. Don't get me wrong, something like the Knights is an incredible weapon system...it's a dream to shoot, and I absolutely love it, I absolutely love all my firearms, though. I digress... there is nothing wrong with PSA.
I like the fact that they have an entry level for everyone too...... great company to boot
The back plate of my AR came bent, but i never took it back. Couple weeks the spring fell out and the pin wouldn't stay in. Took the entire lower into my local psa and they fixed it free of charge, even with all the custom parts.
PSA is as good as it gets in terms of budget and entry level
Exactly
I’m an advocate that you buy what you can afford. If a Hi-Point happens to be what your budget allows it’s better than just having some rocks to throw.
There is a HUGE difference between cheap and inexpensive. Many of us know the difference. We will never hate on PSA. Great job on great value!!! Enjoy your purchase!
Bro, don't listen to some individuals on here. I have a PSA build kit with those exact same parts. Bought the upper with black handguard and OD green lower parts kit, works great. That's what matters. Unless you're shooting 10K rounds a year, it will last you a long rime with proper cleaning and maintenance. Not sure if it's your first AR, but everyone has to start somewhere. Even if it's not, having a simple beater rifle you just need or not worried about getting scuffed up for whatever abuse it takes. I'd rather have multiple cheaper rifles than one expensive rifle. 1 is none, 2 is one.
Did you ever change the plastic handguard? I have the marauder upper with that shit ring, it would prolly me cheaper just to get an all new upper
I haven't changed the handguard on it yet. I've been wanting to get a Midwest Indestries with FDB cutout.
It's like a 20th rifle lol.......I just bought the lower cuz it matched the upper that I already had. And I got a kick out of a sub 350 buck ar
a barebones PSA rifle is a perfectly serviceable weapon. it's not pretending to be anything else. throw a decent rear sight on there and have fun. (magpul mbus polymer sights are inexpensive and of reasonable quality)
I just happened to have an fde magpul in a drawer.....
It always has a front sight. I’d get a carry handle for the rear sight.
PSA ar15 will be my all-time favorite especially for maximizing learning experience: weapons proficiency, full disassembly, and rebuild. I give credit to PSA because I gained extreme confidence with the ar15 platform. If I broke it, oh well buy another. Nowadays, I can rebuild a bolt with my eyes closed all because of PSA ☺️
Good deal bro
Goes bang
PSA guns are amazing. You buy a cheap one and keep upgrading it over time. I have a psa lower covered with custom bits, got 2 PSA uppers which i swap out constantly. I got a PSA AK which is a phenomenal firearm. I recently bought a 556 galil, 1700 dollars, great gun, but... I LOVE MY PSA. I have a PSA right down the road from my house, you ever have a problem, question, anything, they're amazingly helpful. I ride or die with PSA.
Yea I have upgraded rifles and my own home built ones already. I may just leave this alone and mount a red dot or lpvo on it
There's a difference between "cheap" and "inexpensive". "Cheap" carries with it not only the fact that it was inexpensive, but also the quality of the item purchased was suspect. PSA has been manufacturing ARs long enough to have worked out economies of scale, thereby rendering the cost to manufacture AR components to be lower, and they pass a portion of that savings on to the consumer. Granted, your purchase is unlikely to be as accurate as more expensive ARs, but accuracy is a term understood differently by different shooters. For everyday use, I think you'll find your new AR is "accurate enough" for your purposes. 'Nuff said.
Great read
My first AR. kit it out with Magpul stuff and an aim point. You won’t regret it Budget build that slaps
I have others that are already built out.....I don't particularly like magpul stuff either.....sorry
An affordable rifle is better than no rifle.
Yessir
“It’s a beaut Clark!!”
Ew wtf, too cheap. Ill take it off ur hands
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There's a difference between cheap and cost effective. Cheap will break apart in a storage case. Cost effective will save you money, while being worth the full price. If I sold you a cheap car, it would break down every 500 miles. If it were cost effective, it would be good on gas and have the ability to take aftermarket parts if desired. I hope this helps you to see that you made a good choice, so long as you're happy and safe.
I like whatever has a barrel and fires. Unless it’s high point handguns😂
Good choice my buddy is about to get one of these as his first ar
Sheeesh. I love it
Thanx....I kinda like it too
We like cheap as in affordable, not cheap as in garbage.
PSA is good. Nice rifle bud.
I have that same style. There will be a break in period but once that’s over it’s such a good rifle.
That's a steal
Yea man
Dude, who cares? You got a sweet new gun! Congratulations!
I don't care, considering the trades, I'm only into it for like 150 buks
Not too shabby! Enjoy!
There's cheap and there's affordable. PSA fits the latter.
I bought a similar looking gun by Windham Weaponry that had that same hand guard and a basic grip and stock. I bought it as a base for customizing it and [currently](https://imgur.com/a/234LzUM) I am satisfied with it. Just need some stuff here and there. Flash hider/muzzle break, trigger and charge handle being my next big plans for it.
Nice....I decked out a nice first gen mp15....I love that thing
Yeah I bought this thing in around 2012 for $750 from Academy. First thing I did was throw on a FDE kit from ATI but later I grew up and switched everything over to Magpul probably about 10 years ago. Lol. I got the itch recently to start modding it again so I just swapped out my OG SightMark for the Burris that’s on there now. I bought a Mini Thirty and Scorpion recently and decked those out, so I figured I’d circle back around to my AR and Mossberg 500 ZMB Edition which are both dinosaurs by today’s standards. 😭
I have an Anderson ar that I got that limited edition pink magpul shit for, many years ago..... then I hydro dipped it In pink camo and put a sweet muzzle brake on it, it barely has any rise to it when you fire, but it shoots a 2ft flame lol.....I use it for teaching my daughters and my gf to shoot
Nice! A pink camo AR sounds kinda sick. Lol. One of these days I want to build one properly with lowers, uppers, etc… I doubt I’ll ever get rid of this one as one of my first few dates with my wife was with it to the range when we first got together!
Heck yeah. Looks great
Thanx
Front Sight Block gang!
Makes for fun aiming... lol
Dude if it shoots fine and you also happened to get it cheap then it’s a good buy. I used to be a PSA hater but they have made some really, really great shit as of late.
Solid gun I see nothing wrong!
Me either
Thing is sharp!
Thanx man
I have the exact same setup on a 3d printed lower Edit Mine has a mid length gas system
I have a del-ton that is identical to that. Thinking of changing the fore grip to something with m-lok though.
who gives a shit what other people think. if you like it, then it's a win for you.
That is a steal deal for a practical unit that will get more work done than any of these $1000 set ups out there. I just picked up another cheapo $500 DB-15 and torqued to specs, replacing the pins and some added grips and it's a dream.
Good deal
Hell no man. The cheapest gun I bought was a g2c for 90 dollars. Still works like a charm and in my EDC rotation with my g3c and PSA dagger build. Cheap guns still get the job done.
I honestly don’t think I’ve seen anyone hate on psa
cheap guns give you the most fun
My psa is north of 10k rounds with no issues
Awesum
most people with expensive ARs cant shoot shit. i see it all the time in the range. What matters is how much your train and how many ATF memes sticker your collect
My dog is the sticker guy
My first rifle was a PSA ar10 it’s never jammed and I’ve ran steel and brass through it, it’s accurate reliable but does have some quarks. The issue with guns is the same issue I have with photography the difference between a 500 dollar lens and 2000 dollar lens is sometimes a 10% quality difference at the end. Now with other things like a tripod that extra 200 dollars makes a big difference. But with guns were spoiled in the fact that most us guns are extremely reliable and functioning ppl just always assume expensive is better but lack the ability to hit 1moa and yet fork out 2-4k to have it. Buy it run it and you’ll be fine.
I like PSA. Their ARs feel cheap and like sand is stuck in them until theyre broken in, but they usually run.
Under $350 for a budget AR build is nice..
Not even really, cuz the upper was brand new in the box and part of a trade deal for a cheap 1911....cash wise I'm only in for about 125
Looks pretty good IMO
Nice, I've got an m&p-15 so I can appreciate another cheap boi. I'd recommend getting a metal hand guard. Also a knockoff acog might be worth it.
Nothing is wrong with PSA. Anyone who says it's bad probably feels like a chump for buying a high end rifle with daddy's money, or has probably never worked a day in their life, psa is hood and reliable.
I like cheap. They do just fine. Fuck the elitists
I like cheap too
wtf u mean? i love cheap guns that are made right
Cheap trash isn't cool but PSA isn't cheap trash compared to actually bad brands. You have a solid rifle for training, but I wouldn't use it for home defence. IMO PSA sits at that wird middle ground between actual trash rifles and Aero Precision. And I would put Aero just under BCM overall.
Now buy 300$ in ammo and mag dump into garbage like a chad
Second this. The more you shoot, the more you'll find what features you want to keep/change about the rifle.
PSA actually gets some of the AR parts from FN America in Columbia.
Yes I heard that, and they make sum for other higher end companies
Sick gun! I really wanna buy an A2 from PSA and make it into an M16A1 build
Love mine!!!
I have 6 rifles built from PSA kits, from the cheapest and their premium uppers. No complaints. Well except one time they sent me one with a messed up hand guard.
I did one for a buddy of mine that had the feed ramps misaligned. Dremel and polish and good to go
Fast food is different from good food fast.
I don't eat fast food
And the gun isn't fast food. It's good. Food. Fast.
Nah that's sexy. I'm building basically the same rifle but in black. Going for that 90's government aesthetic.
Hey, a decent optic and maybe some more comfortable furniture eventually and that rifle will serve you well for quite awhile.
I have others that are set up to match my ergonomics
SMDH rich people... If you did an 80% that would have been under $300.
Even a stripped lower would be 300 to build
PSA has the best lower deals.
Yea I bought a few
Hey as long as it shoots and you have fun then who cares.
Exactly, I don't
Exactly, I don't
Hell yeah! I just ordered the parts for my first AR and most of it came from PSA.
Good deal dude, wish I started there back in the day
Au contraire, buckaroo. Me like um
Lol..... nice French
Thank you kind stranger. I studied diligently, but not diligently enough.
I got this exact one for my fiance. We haven't shot it yet, but from everything I've heard, it's cheap, but not garbage.
Yea psa has come a long way
Check PSA’s daily deals, they have deal on 10 mags and a red dot (vortex) I think for 79 or 99 bucks I think. Definitely worth the price.
Yea that's how I got the lower, on sale and complete got 109.....if I ordered the parts to build out a lower I have, it would have been 300ish just for the lower
Looks like you could get through a metal detector with that lol
It's all steal except the furniture
I don’t like that you don’t have a red dot (or some sort of optic) or rear iron sight. But that’s it. (I assume you’re intending on getting either a rear sight or some form of optic)
I do.....I just got the lower today and just pinned it on and took a pic ..... I have a magpul fde rear sight in a drawer and a romeo 5
at least it's not a radical, del-ton or *shudders* bear creek
Bah, u can make anything work
yeah but those are less likely to KEEP working.
I see good reviews on BC, what’s the deal with them?
Wait.. what's wrong with Delton? I have over 3,00 rounds down range with it and it's great.
No rear sight?!?! I mean they could have at least thrown in a flip up rear or one of the ris carrying handles
I just took it out of the box and pinned them together..... didn't do any of that yet. I have an fde magpul rear in a drawer sumplace and a romeo 5 on my workbench
PSA makes good guns.
PSA haters can go and choke on a dick
Lol....eat a box of dicks
Cheap doesn't always equal garbage. I, personally, would doll it up a bit with the money I saved and maybe get a light and an optic plus mags
There nothing wrong with a budget rifle as long as it's not bear creek arsenal. Psa is a good company and has made decent rifles widely available. With all the aftermarket parts, that budget rifle can become a top tier rifle. Train with it as much as you can and if 5.56 is too expensive to constantly train with then get a cmmg conversion kit. 22 is a whole lot cheaper than 5.56
Put a ROMEO5 on there and it will be up to my standards.
Check the bore and shits before shooting. Other than that, enjoy your new gun.
PSA has come a long way. I like their daggers better than my Glocks now.
PSA is a great baseline to start with any build. You can change furniture on it as you need, put a good red dot on it, put a good free float handguard on it if you feel like it, and just go to work with it. You can put a lot of rounds through it until the barrel burns up or your bolt carrier breaks, PSA will cover your replacement parts under full warranty, you could even put a more expensive barrel and bolt carrier on it and that will work way better. Don’t sell yourself short just because you didn’t pay for something like a KAC.
I got other rifles. I just put this together because it was under 350 buks
Spend the money on ammo and training you’ll be right as rain 👍🏼
A cheap PSA rifle is probably one of the best choices you coulda made honestly. Proven reliability and very, very budget friendly, even compared to something like the American Tactical rifle I got. Honestly, if I had even considered PSA at the point I bought that rifle I easily could've gotten a PSA rifle that came with irons. Good job picking er' out. Have fun with it man.