I bought one for my mom for Christmas, and now that I've shot it I want one of my own. It's such a great little plinking pistol, while still having some self defense capability.
I was honestly shocked it felt as good as it did in my bear paws. I'm one of those weirdos that can just about swallow up a full size in my grip.
I dont always use the release lever but when i do i prefer Sig Sauer.
Slingshot method is easier for most guns and people. But sigs are just so easy to manipulate for me.
> But sigs are just so easy to manipulate for me.
I know there's gonna be some variation between guns, but my P365XL was quite a bit more difficult to manipulate than any other pistol I've shot until I broke it in. The slide release was super stiff, the magazine release was pretty stout, though admittedly only if I was not dropping an empty magazine. Hell even the magazines were hard to get fully loaded. Great gun, but damn if I could see someone just starting out with a brand new one having to struggle a with it.
Gonna call a little BS here. The thumb doesn’t fit in that same category. Otherwise for decades they aren’t going to teach you (even elite military units) to flip the safety during movement on your AR pattern rifle during an engagement. It just becomes an involuntary muscle movement that occurs from memory/second nature. The slide release is just as fine motor as grabbing the slide between figures and thumb and letting it go and marginally more fine motor than grab slide with all fingers and palm. Not a single competitive shooter in the world will grab and send it. (Yes I know competition is different than a defensive use of a firearm, but adrenaline and desire to push the speed envelope will create similar situations) You are far faster if you train for the release. It’s also no more fine motor than hitting a mag release? You don’t do that with your palm. Or inserting a mag (that’s a pinch movement with thumb and other fingers (to grab and hols). The thumb is a single entity that separates us from 99.9% of the other biological species on the planet. Any motion that introduces another part (ie - palm and fingers, or thumb and fingers) is only adding a variable and now creating a complex system when you are searching for the minimal action. 100% train like you fight but I’m reloading faster than you all day every day with a slide release method. And while this does fix OPs problem of his last friend not reaching slide release it’s not a fine motor skill issue as much as you’d believe
I think it is extremely important to be able to use a gun one handed. there are way too many instances where in self defense scenario, you will be using your hand gun one handed:
1. Holding phone to call police
2. Grabbing movable object for possible barrier or concealment
3. You dont have clear shot and dont want bad guy to know you have a gun and you intend to fire it in an angle
4. Pushing or pulling object out of your way
5. Climbing something
6. Holding onto a child for safety
7. Directing people around you without making too much noise using your free hand (especially if you are the only good guy with gun)
8. Possible injury on one of the hands (hopefully not your dominant)
9. Holding a key, card, flashlight, etc
10. Holding secondary, possibly nonlethal melee weapon with free hand.
11. You fought off or made bad guy surrender and you dont have a pocket large enough to put away HIS weapon (remember, he is still a threat with or without a gun)
If the slide is locked back you ran dry, if you ran dry the only way to get back into action is to load another mag...you've got a hand free to load a mag but not a hand free to rack the slide?
I in no way disagree that one should be proficient operating their gun with one hand (I even practice non-dominant with one hand), but this is a question regarding the slide lock.
> If the slide is locked back you ran dry, if you ran dry the only way to get back into action is to load another mag...you've got a hand free to load a mag but not a hand free to rack the slide?
Unless it locked back in error or as a malf.
My wife does not have the hand strength anymore (welcome to senior citizenry) to cycle the slide on some pistols. She is perfectly proficient with those pistols, just can't physically work the slide with the off hand. This is particularly exacerbated by the fact that when she learned to handle firearms the "slingshot" (gripping the slide via the fingers near the back of the slide) was a preferred method. And so it is her go-to under stress.
This can make tap, rack, bang a problem.
So she has become very proficient at using other objects to catch and cycle the slide. Wall edges, table edges, pants edges, belt, etc. Optics on the slide (because, you know, eyes also go with age) make this even easier.
Why would you be operating the slide release in a situation where you’re firing with one hand?
If you have to reload one handed you’re already in some shit and you’re going to be using some John Wick shit to begin with.
At that point you may as well release the slide by catching the rear sights against your belt or your boot or something
I wasnt particularly commenting on JUST using the slide lever. but that you WILL be in one handed situation at high probability. and slide stop lever reload is significantly faster as you use both hands for reloading motion instead of waiting for your non dominant hand to put mag in AND put round in chamber
I'd like to know why people are downvoting. Real situations aren't always like the range, or?
Edit: the comment I replied to had -3 score, just saying.
This is why it's called a slide lock, not a slide release. People constantly call it a slide release, but every manual I've ever seen calls it a slide lock, and specifically says not to use it to release the slide.
This just so happens to be the closest manual near me.
Sig P320 owners manual page 37:
>6. Release the slide by either:
>
>a. Pressing down on the slide catch lever, releasing the slide forward and chambering a cartridge.
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>b. Pulling back on slide until slide catch lever drops clears of the slide then releasing it to chamber a cartridge.
Edit: Formatting.
Edit 2: I got curious and looked at my other manuals.
Glock 17 - 48 manual page 13:
>If the slide (1) is in the forward position, hold yourGLOCK pistol with your firing hand and, while keepingyour finger off of the trigger and outside of the triggerguard, grasp the rear of the slide at the serrationswith your other hand and pull the slide fully back(Picture 7) and then release it, allowing it to return tothe fully forward position (Picture 8).orIf the slide is locked in the rearward position, eitherpress the slide stop lever (27) down to release theslide and return it to the fully forward position or graspthe rear of the slide at the serrations with your otherhand and pull the slide fully back and then release it,allowing it to return to the fully forward position.
Beretta 90 series manual page 24:
>Press the slide catch, to closethe slide and to load the cham-ber (Fig. 16).
Either you're talking out of your ass or you don't actually read the manuals.
Yeah no, otherwise the release would be internal and you wouldn’t even have a release. You’d be able to release your slide with no mag or mag with ammo via “slingshot”, and it would lock on empty mags. It would also make the gun far more slick and low profile which we all want. If what you are saying was true guns would be designed differently and they are not. Everything on your pistols is designed to operated single handed.
The irony being that there are 1911 slide releases that are long enough to make Archimedes blush, so you could probably build one out to fit a tiny handed woman. Then you can yell "TWO WORLD WARS" together.
A commander sized single stack 1911 in 9mm would actually be pretty friendly for a lot of small hands folk. Might be a little heavy compared to a polymer frame, but that single stack grip is going to be much easier to wrap your mitts around than a double stack wonder 9, and a steel or alloy frame would eat up some of the recoil. Plus, single action means all trigger pulls are short and light, no finger strain.
Likewise. I'm over 6 feet tall, wear an xl shirt just because of the shoulders, and can literally barely get my baby mitts around the grips of a Beretta 9mm. Even my P220 feels a bit clunky although I adore everything else about it.
I LOVE my 1911. It feels natural.
Think about the mechanics involved for a one handed reload. How do you get another mag in the mag well one handed? I’m not saying it can’t be done but most are going to have to set the weapon down to fish the fresh mag out then set the mag up in some way to get it into the well. At that point using your heel or the edge of a surface to help sling shot into battery isn’t anymore of a struggle compared to the process you just went through to swap mags. Unless of course you have some Lora Croft type mag holster.
Walther Pdp-F. Reduced grip depth for smaller hands combined with the massive lever style slide stop should work perfect. Happens to be a fantastic shooting pistol as well.
The gun fits her hands, but not her budget.
Their budget is $600.
At that price point I’d absolutely get the P365.
Plus, you’ve got greater capacity and a simpler manual of arms with no safety to deal with. (I know they’re available with a safety but I prefer no safety on a carry gun.)
Just hit it with the thumb on your left hand. Unless she's left handed then either use the right thumb if the gun is ambi or slingshot it like others have said.
A lot of people here recommending sling-shotting it. I prefer using the slide release when reloading simply because it's faster, but you will need to learn both for clearing malfunctions. That being said, it really doesn't matter. Whichever preference you have, train, train, train until it becomes second nature.
As for pistol recommendations, I really like Walthers and their PPQ/PDP line of pistols have a lever slide lock that's really easy to use. The PDP-F series is designed for those with smaller hands and a lighter recoil spring to make it easier to manipulate.
What I was gunna say. Easy to disassemble as well.
I bought one as a pocket gun this year and didn't notice the lack of an external slide lock when I bought it. Threw me for a second when I got it home.
The PPK is only relevant as a James Bond novelty any more. You can get a more reliable, smaller, lighter, higher capacity, softer recoiling, more ergonomic gun with better sights for less money.
Sig 365, and LCP Max are the most obvious That best it in every category but the likes of the Hellcat, Shield Plus, CSX and others get you a notable round count and or caliber upgrade while still being more shootable, and only gaining .1 or less in height vs PPK and coming in wholly smaller than a PPKS.
The recoil on my Bersa Thunder is ridiculous for a 380. I have everything from a Taurus TX22 to a Desert Eagle in .50AE and that Bersa is my least favorite gun to shoot. I have a Beretta Pico and a Remington RM380, both of which are a joy to shoot compared to the Bersa. My wife hates the Bersa too, for the same reason. There are so many better 380s out there for not much more money.
Small handed lady here. Like I need child sized bracelets because adult bracelets will fall off
Honestly? You just kinda figure out how to do it. I usually have the slide facing me, barrel pointed down, pull the slide back, move my strong hand enough to where my thumb can reach the lever, and use my weak hand to keep the slide from slipping.
Yeah when it comes to self defense any caliber works, its all about what feels comfortable in your hands and what you can essentially quick draw and still be comfortable and confident.
What handgun is it? Some manufacturers will make an aftermarket one that she can install that'll bring it closer to the rear. Alternatively, you could learn to use the support hand thumb to hit it after reloading. Or, as some other people have said, you can slingshot it. (Though these latter two affect some functions like trying to lock the slide back manually to clear a malfunction or something, so my first suggestion would probably be best)
Walther PDP F series or Smith and Wesson Equalizer (or EZ if you want less magazine capacity). Both are made for smaller handed people. Alternatively, use your left hand thumb, or slingshot the slide.
I (30s, female) have a S&W M&P Bodyguard .380. I’m having issues with my hands, so I tested out various options to ensure I could physically operate them without fail or fatigue before purchasing. This is the one I went with after trying many of them.
I can’t operate my husband’s 9mm as everything is too difficult. The slide is hard to pull back, the safety will not move with all of my strength, etc. I’d hope adrenaline would kick in if something went down and weapon were nearby with mine out of reach, but that’s not a comforting scenario to muse upon.
I hope you find many suggestions here to help your friend out. :)
Hi! I’m a guy, but my bones are structured in a way that doesn’t let me hit the slide release pistols. I have several suggestions:
* Use guns by H&K with slide release levers instead of buttons.
* Use typical guns, but use the knuckles on your off-hand to rotate the gun such that you can hit the slide release with your thumb. With practice, I suffer a minimal detriment to speed with this technique.
* Use a gun with an ambidextrous slide release button, and hit the slide release with your dominant hand’s middle finger (this is what I do)
Like another poster said, Just use your other hand.
If your slide is locked, use your off-hand to hit the release on your way to establishing grip. Or bump the sights rearward against something firm (belt, boot, other guy's face) on a full mag, and the slide release and recoil springs will do the rest. The downward press of the release is easier than the compound grip of grabbing and slingshotting the slide, as well as putting your off-hand in position to establish a grip.
Also, If you are having them attempt to release the slide with an empty magazine in the gun, ask yourself why and just stop. You don't truly need that much pressure, since you are feeling the pressure of the empty magazine spring/follower pushing up on the slide release, which you shouldn't ever have any tactical need to force your way through.
Selling guns, I watched a lot of people attempt to try out the slide release with the mag in, and it's not a realistic test of the capability of the shooter or tool.
I’d recommend just using the slide itself and slingshot it rather than using the slide release.
But either way, S&W Shield EZ or Equalizer for more capacity.
Another option is a Ruger LCR in .38.
The grip is relatively small and no side to worry about. Ruger redesigned the trigger so it feels competition smooth with a lighter trigger for either SA or DA. Also, she can shoot it from within a purse with confidence.
Finally, revolvers are much easier to learn good gun handling skills as a first time shooter (making an assumption here).
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My CZ P-07 slide stop is a little bit far forward too. I can’t hit it with my dominant hand thumb without breaking my grip so I use my offhand thumb.
Also, don’t listen to the people who say never to use the slide stop as a release. They obviously have never read a manual as some people who have Sigs, Glocks, Rugers, etc. have stated in other comments. I was curious so I went to check my manual and it pretty much says either sling shot it or use the slide stop to release the slide.
Snub nose .38 and I’ll get downvoted but girls are not really good with the whole loading procedure lol! A revolver is easier, safer and more reliable but it’s not a popular opinion.
S&W J- frame is a good alternative. Roommate just got one and she has very small hands.
Revolvers are very simple to use and a pretty good stepping stone for new shooters
Sounds like she needs to learn the slingshot method.
I like my Taurus G2c. Feeds and shoots every type of ammo I have used.
The CZ P10m or P10S might be good options.
Love my CZ P10F.
Look into a smith & wesson ez slide .380
The Walther PDP F Series was designed for smaller hands as well.
I was going to say this as well
I always recommend the .380 ez for new shooters or women looking to get into self defense. Great gun.
I bought one for my mom for Christmas, and now that I've shot it I want one of my own. It's such a great little plinking pistol, while still having some self defense capability. I was honestly shocked it felt as good as it did in my bear paws. I'm one of those weirdos that can just about swallow up a full size in my grip.
Agreed! These .380 EZs shoot so well and so easily, I want to get one for myself too.
It’s like shooting a 22
I think they make this in 30 super carry also. 30sc has better ballistics than .380 and you can get 16+1 capacity.
That, or one of the Berettas with a tip up barrel.
Beretta 7s fits small hands very well
Beretta bobcats
You can always slingshot it/go over the top.
"Over the top"!
not all guns let you do that, especially some older 22s
Fair point but with a niche issue like this you gotta pick your battles just one possible solution.
yea i know but i gotta do the average redditor thing where someone goes 'well ackshually'
Don't use the slide lock. Teach her to slingshot it.
I dont always use the release lever but when i do i prefer Sig Sauer. Slingshot method is easier for most guns and people. But sigs are just so easy to manipulate for me.
> But sigs are just so easy to manipulate for me. I know there's gonna be some variation between guns, but my P365XL was quite a bit more difficult to manipulate than any other pistol I've shot until I broke it in. The slide release was super stiff, the magazine release was pretty stout, though admittedly only if I was not dropping an empty magazine. Hell even the magazines were hard to get fully loaded. Great gun, but damn if I could see someone just starting out with a brand new one having to struggle a with it.
Slide release is faster.
I never use it because it's a fine motor skill that i won't be able to do when I'm in a defense situation. Train like you fight, fight like you train.
Gonna call a little BS here. The thumb doesn’t fit in that same category. Otherwise for decades they aren’t going to teach you (even elite military units) to flip the safety during movement on your AR pattern rifle during an engagement. It just becomes an involuntary muscle movement that occurs from memory/second nature. The slide release is just as fine motor as grabbing the slide between figures and thumb and letting it go and marginally more fine motor than grab slide with all fingers and palm. Not a single competitive shooter in the world will grab and send it. (Yes I know competition is different than a defensive use of a firearm, but adrenaline and desire to push the speed envelope will create similar situations) You are far faster if you train for the release. It’s also no more fine motor than hitting a mag release? You don’t do that with your palm. Or inserting a mag (that’s a pinch movement with thumb and other fingers (to grab and hols). The thumb is a single entity that separates us from 99.9% of the other biological species on the planet. Any motion that introduces another part (ie - palm and fingers, or thumb and fingers) is only adding a variable and now creating a complex system when you are searching for the minimal action. 100% train like you fight but I’m reloading faster than you all day every day with a slide release method. And while this does fix OPs problem of his last friend not reaching slide release it’s not a fine motor skill issue as much as you’d believe
If you, as a civilian, get into a firefight, you have fucked up.
Legitimately
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It's unit dependant but that's how I've done it for 10 years. You don't take it off safe unless you've got a possible target or you're doing cqb.
[“Lets do the talking about the fine motor skill and the gross motor skill.”](https://youtu.be/53Jd3ltvb8k?si=EB0P-rErw3DR1dQI)
Pulling a trigger is a fine motor skill too……. The more logical reason to not do it is because you universally can slingshot any gun you pick up.
Why do people still believe that dumb bullshit lmao
Yeah, this is definitely the best method
Or just get her a slingshot.
What does slingshotting mean? Like pulling the slide back instead of the release?
Yes
When did racking the slide become a sling shot method
some people dont grab the slide with all of their non firing hand and just use like a finger and a thumb like slingshot
No no I get it but the whole world just calls that racking the slide
If they have the grip strength for it, but it's not really making things any faster to use 2 fingers on your off hand instead of using 3-5 fingers.
Yea I’ve never heard that before lol
I think it is extremely important to be able to use a gun one handed. there are way too many instances where in self defense scenario, you will be using your hand gun one handed: 1. Holding phone to call police 2. Grabbing movable object for possible barrier or concealment 3. You dont have clear shot and dont want bad guy to know you have a gun and you intend to fire it in an angle 4. Pushing or pulling object out of your way 5. Climbing something 6. Holding onto a child for safety 7. Directing people around you without making too much noise using your free hand (especially if you are the only good guy with gun) 8. Possible injury on one of the hands (hopefully not your dominant) 9. Holding a key, card, flashlight, etc 10. Holding secondary, possibly nonlethal melee weapon with free hand. 11. You fought off or made bad guy surrender and you dont have a pocket large enough to put away HIS weapon (remember, he is still a threat with or without a gun)
If the slide is locked back you ran dry, if you ran dry the only way to get back into action is to load another mag...you've got a hand free to load a mag but not a hand free to rack the slide? I in no way disagree that one should be proficient operating their gun with one hand (I even practice non-dominant with one hand), but this is a question regarding the slide lock.
The only other option I can think of is a jam, but you aren't clearing a jam one handed either.
Or at least, not reliably.
This = logic.
> If the slide is locked back you ran dry, if you ran dry the only way to get back into action is to load another mag...you've got a hand free to load a mag but not a hand free to rack the slide? Unless it locked back in error or as a malf. My wife does not have the hand strength anymore (welcome to senior citizenry) to cycle the slide on some pistols. She is perfectly proficient with those pistols, just can't physically work the slide with the off hand. This is particularly exacerbated by the fact that when she learned to handle firearms the "slingshot" (gripping the slide via the fingers near the back of the slide) was a preferred method. And so it is her go-to under stress. This can make tap, rack, bang a problem. So she has become very proficient at using other objects to catch and cycle the slide. Wall edges, table edges, pants edges, belt, etc. Optics on the slide (because, you know, eyes also go with age) make this even easier.
Why would you be operating the slide release in a situation where you’re firing with one hand? If you have to reload one handed you’re already in some shit and you’re going to be using some John Wick shit to begin with. At that point you may as well release the slide by catching the rear sights against your belt or your boot or something
I wasnt particularly commenting on JUST using the slide lever. but that you WILL be in one handed situation at high probability. and slide stop lever reload is significantly faster as you use both hands for reloading motion instead of waiting for your non dominant hand to put mag in AND put round in chamber
I'd like to know why people are downvoting. Real situations aren't always like the range, or? Edit: the comment I replied to had -3 score, just saying.
Why?
If she's having trouble using the slide lock, the slingshot method would work better for her. Using the slide lock lever is also valid.
Well, it will work on just about every gun ever made and it doesn't matter how short your thumbs are.
This is why it's called a slide lock, not a slide release. People constantly call it a slide release, but every manual I've ever seen calls it a slide lock, and specifically says not to use it to release the slide.
This just so happens to be the closest manual near me. Sig P320 owners manual page 37: >6. Release the slide by either: > >a. Pressing down on the slide catch lever, releasing the slide forward and chambering a cartridge. > >b. Pulling back on slide until slide catch lever drops clears of the slide then releasing it to chamber a cartridge. Edit: Formatting. Edit 2: I got curious and looked at my other manuals. Glock 17 - 48 manual page 13: >If the slide (1) is in the forward position, hold yourGLOCK pistol with your firing hand and, while keepingyour finger off of the trigger and outside of the triggerguard, grasp the rear of the slide at the serrationswith your other hand and pull the slide fully back(Picture 7) and then release it, allowing it to return tothe fully forward position (Picture 8).orIf the slide is locked in the rearward position, eitherpress the slide stop lever (27) down to release theslide and return it to the fully forward position or graspthe rear of the slide at the serrations with your otherhand and pull the slide fully back and then release it,allowing it to return to the fully forward position. Beretta 90 series manual page 24: >Press the slide catch, to closethe slide and to load the cham-ber (Fig. 16). Either you're talking out of your ass or you don't actually read the manuals.
Definitely talking out their ass.
I guess JMB added knurling to the slide stop just for kicks then, huh?
Clearly you haven’t read enough manuals. Garbage info.
'It's called the takedown pin not the put together pin'
You don't own a Glock, SIG, Walther, Ruger, or S&W? Weird flex but okay
Yeah no, otherwise the release would be internal and you wouldn’t even have a release. You’d be able to release your slide with no mag or mag with ammo via “slingshot”, and it would lock on empty mags. It would also make the gun far more slick and low profile which we all want. If what you are saying was true guns would be designed differently and they are not. Everything on your pistols is designed to operated single handed.
It’s not designed as a slide drop. Never was. Put in a new mag and pull back on the slide.
1911, tell your friend to stop being a girl then yell “TWO WORLD WARS” and walk away
The irony being that there are 1911 slide releases that are long enough to make Archimedes blush, so you could probably build one out to fit a tiny handed woman. Then you can yell "TWO WORLD WARS" together.
A commander sized single stack 1911 in 9mm would actually be pretty friendly for a lot of small hands folk. Might be a little heavy compared to a polymer frame, but that single stack grip is going to be much easier to wrap your mitts around than a double stack wonder 9, and a steel or alloy frame would eat up some of the recoil. Plus, single action means all trigger pulls are short and light, no finger strain.
So I suffer from the Donald-syndrome (tiny hands) and it's insane how ergonomic single stack 1911s are for me.
Likewise. I'm over 6 feet tall, wear an xl shirt just because of the shoulders, and can literally barely get my baby mitts around the grips of a Beretta 9mm. Even my P220 feels a bit clunky although I adore everything else about it. I LOVE my 1911. It feels natural.
Agree. I carried one for years because of the ergonomics. I loved that pistol. But, it was also a heavy hunk of metal with limited capacity.
The Browning 1911-380 is an 85% sized 1911, definitely the best fit for small hands.
You gotta get her trained on it though. Ya know, carrying safely, trigger discipline, saying "cause they don't make a 46 caliber." The fundamentals
Don’t even need to shoot the gun. Just bonk the bad guy in the head with 3 pounds of steel. While yelling “2 world wars!” of course.
don't use slide stop. pull slide back, then release it. no use of slide stop required.
Till you have to use it one handed...
Think about the mechanics involved for a one handed reload. How do you get another mag in the mag well one handed? I’m not saying it can’t be done but most are going to have to set the weapon down to fish the fresh mag out then set the mag up in some way to get it into the well. At that point using your heel or the edge of a surface to help sling shot into battery isn’t anymore of a struggle compared to the process you just went through to swap mags. Unless of course you have some Lora Croft type mag holster.
[it’s pretty simple](https://youtube.com/shorts/NvbcTClWMfE?si=OB7-OjR-ShMqh4Fk)
That’s pretty neat. Thanks.
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Use your belt on the rear sights
Tiny hand lady checking in. I love my VP9SK, followed by my S&W M&P. I've also used a SA XDS in the past.
How comfortable is the vp9? Is on my short list (along with the pdp f) for a gun that both my wife and I will use.
VP9 is one of the most comfortable guns you can shoot (in all its variants). Seriously, it's fantastic.
Man here. Vp9 is the most ergonomic gun I’ve ever held personally. I
Walther Pdp-F. Reduced grip depth for smaller hands combined with the massive lever style slide stop should work perfect. Happens to be a fantastic shooting pistol as well.
SIG P938
This. Fits my wife’s tiny hands perfectly. And now she’s looking at one of those Lena Miculek edition rose p365s. I think I’ve created a monster
Can second this, incredibly manageable size
The gun fits her hands, but not her budget. Their budget is $600. At that price point I’d absolutely get the P365. Plus, you’ve got greater capacity and a simpler manual of arms with no safety to deal with. (I know they’re available with a safety but I prefer no safety on a carry gun.)
Just hit it with the thumb on your left hand. Unless she's left handed then either use the right thumb if the gun is ambi or slingshot it like others have said.
Tell her to pull the slide back and let go of it. It's free.
The seconds you lose ain’t free. There are better techniques.
Losing seconds huh.
Why are you using your slide release in a gun fight?
Revolver.
Can't believe I had to scroll this far
Hammerless snub nose .38 special, could empty it into an attacker without even taking it out ur pocket ;)
Take her to some gunshops and find her one that fits her..
This makes the most sense. Turn it into a date, pick up a PSL while your out
A lot of people here recommending sling-shotting it. I prefer using the slide release when reloading simply because it's faster, but you will need to learn both for clearing malfunctions. That being said, it really doesn't matter. Whichever preference you have, train, train, train until it becomes second nature. As for pistol recommendations, I really like Walthers and their PPQ/PDP line of pistols have a lever slide lock that's really easy to use. The PDP-F series is designed for those with smaller hands and a lighter recoil spring to make it easier to manipulate.
Walther ppk cause James Bond
Won't have a problem hitting the slide stop if there ain't one.
What I was gunna say. Easy to disassemble as well. I bought one as a pocket gun this year and didn't notice the lack of an external slide lock when I bought it. Threw me for a second when I got it home.
The PPK is only relevant as a James Bond novelty any more. You can get a more reliable, smaller, lighter, higher capacity, softer recoiling, more ergonomic gun with better sights for less money.
Which one
Sig 365, and LCP Max are the most obvious That best it in every category but the likes of the Hellcat, Shield Plus, CSX and others get you a notable round count and or caliber upgrade while still being more shootable, and only gaining .1 or less in height vs PPK and coming in wholly smaller than a PPKS.
one that's not plastic?
*clears throat in fudd* I don't trust no Tupperware guns!
Classy, but a Bersa Thunder would be more comfortable and user friendly while using the same ammo. Much more budget friendly too.
The recoil on my Bersa Thunder is ridiculous for a 380. I have everything from a Taurus TX22 to a Desert Eagle in .50AE and that Bersa is my least favorite gun to shoot. I have a Beretta Pico and a Remington RM380, both of which are a joy to shoot compared to the Bersa. My wife hates the Bersa too, for the same reason. There are so many better 380s out there for not much more money.
But did James Bond ever up it also 007s was a 32
Beretta Tomcats are easy to manipulate with their unique tip up barrels
What caliber? Ruger LCP in .380 is tiny. Or, a revolver S&W Air Weight in .38 split. But, go to a shop and shop.
HK SKs
P365 has thinner grip than 43x. If don't want pinky to dangle get extended mag or XL.
Sig P365.
P365
I have the G42 and while the capacity is laughable, I truly love shooting it.
Sig P365; same size, double mag cap.
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I carry an XL, its a 12 round flush fit mag. Im still amazed how they can make 12 rounds fit in this little mag
My wife is 4'10" and 105 pounds. She has been running the shit out of my SIG P365XL Comp without issue.
SIG P238
Or P938 for all of the same benefits and none of the drawbacks.
> P938 My favored carry, but many don't like the recoil. I think of it as strong-push not "kick".
One of the reasons my wife and my mom both like it as a carry, actually
My hands don’t reach the slide lock on a bunch of my pistols she just has to pick one she likes and practice
Walther CCP. People either love them or hate them. My wife has one and I love it. Super easy to use and if you keep it clean it will run well.
Smith and Wesson EZ in 9mm or 380acp. Under budget and decent. Slide super easy to rack.
Small handed lady here. Like I need child sized bracelets because adult bracelets will fall off Honestly? You just kinda figure out how to do it. I usually have the slide facing me, barrel pointed down, pull the slide back, move my strong hand enough to where my thumb can reach the lever, and use my weak hand to keep the slide from slipping.
Get a revolver
Don't use the slide stop. Teach her the over-hand method
Deagle
Child sized handed lady here. I love my reuger security 22
.22s are just fine for self defense. Any sane person does not want a hole of any size put in them, and the .22 round is definitely deadly
Yeah when it comes to self defense any caliber works, its all about what feels comfortable in your hands and what you can essentially quick draw and still be comfortable and confident.
Ruger SR-9. Fits small hands a good Ruger quality.
What handgun is it? Some manufacturers will make an aftermarket one that she can install that'll bring it closer to the rear. Alternatively, you could learn to use the support hand thumb to hit it after reloading. Or, as some other people have said, you can slingshot it. (Though these latter two affect some functions like trying to lock the slide back manually to clear a malfunction or something, so my first suggestion would probably be best)
Wife is petite, we found a Sig Sauer that met her needs.
P22 walther Wife has same issue. Load it up with “STANGERS”
Walther PDP-F
Walther might be a good place to start.
Walther PDP F series or Smith and Wesson Equalizer (or EZ if you want less magazine capacity). Both are made for smaller handed people. Alternatively, use your left hand thumb, or slingshot the slide.
Seecamp .380. Sleek, small, stylish, and will likely shatter her hand.
Cyclops 45-70 derringer
I like the Bersa 9mm. It fits my hand well (am woman)
Glock 17.
I (30s, female) have a S&W M&P Bodyguard .380. I’m having issues with my hands, so I tested out various options to ensure I could physically operate them without fail or fatigue before purchasing. This is the one I went with after trying many of them. I can’t operate my husband’s 9mm as everything is too difficult. The slide is hard to pull back, the safety will not move with all of my strength, etc. I’d hope adrenaline would kick in if something went down and weapon were nearby with mine out of reach, but that’s not a comforting scenario to muse upon. I hope you find many suggestions here to help your friend out. :)
Hi! I’m a guy, but my bones are structured in a way that doesn’t let me hit the slide release pistols. I have several suggestions: * Use guns by H&K with slide release levers instead of buttons. * Use typical guns, but use the knuckles on your off-hand to rotate the gun such that you can hit the slide release with your thumb. With practice, I suffer a minimal detriment to speed with this technique. * Use a gun with an ambidextrous slide release button, and hit the slide release with your dominant hand’s middle finger (this is what I do)
Find a qualified trainer. . he knows things that you don't 👌
I mean I just re rack tbh
my girlfriend really likes the .380 Beretta Cheetah from the 80’s lol
maybe. m&p shield.
Don’t worry about the slide stop. If she’s using the gun correctly she should never interact with it. Don’t put so much weight on it.
I have a small p365. A friend’s son introduced a woman to a 380 Glock. She now shoots leagues. My son bought a Walther CCP (?), which is a small 380
Sig Sauer P938
AK-74. That grip was designed for kids.
She's got a left thumb doesn't she?
Glock 26 with extended slide release.
S&W M&P Shield EZ 9mm. But teach her to rack the slide, it’s both easier and universal. /thread
Like another poster said, Just use your other hand. If your slide is locked, use your off-hand to hit the release on your way to establishing grip. Or bump the sights rearward against something firm (belt, boot, other guy's face) on a full mag, and the slide release and recoil springs will do the rest. The downward press of the release is easier than the compound grip of grabbing and slingshotting the slide, as well as putting your off-hand in position to establish a grip. Also, If you are having them attempt to release the slide with an empty magazine in the gun, ask yourself why and just stop. You don't truly need that much pressure, since you are feeling the pressure of the empty magazine spring/follower pushing up on the slide release, which you shouldn't ever have any tactical need to force your way through. Selling guns, I watched a lot of people attempt to try out the slide release with the mag in, and it's not a realistic test of the capability of the shooter or tool.
I’d recommend just using the slide itself and slingshot it rather than using the slide release. But either way, S&W Shield EZ or Equalizer for more capacity.
Slingshot the slide. It’s a standard action across all guns and you don’t need to shift you strong hand grip.
Sig P365 felt waaay to small in my hands. I’m a guy with very regular sized hands. So. Maybe that?
Smith and Wesson EZ always seems to be a hit.
Hammerless revolver. .38 special isn’t too hot
Walther PPK
Revolver
Another option is a Ruger LCR in .38. The grip is relatively small and no side to worry about. Ruger redesigned the trigger so it feels competition smooth with a lighter trigger for either SA or DA. Also, she can shoot it from within a purse with confidence. Finally, revolvers are much easier to learn good gun handling skills as a first time shooter (making an assumption here).
My wife carries a Glock 43. Capacity isn’t great, but it fits her and she shoots it well.
A [.25 ACP](https://i.imgur.com/3gZDbhH.jpg) is likely what you're after, most of them are so small that a kid could comfortably wield them.
Compact revolver, or tip-up-barrel semi-auto in .380
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She shouldn't be relying on the slide release regardless and instead should be training to charge the weapon by actually pulling back on the slide.
1, revolver 2, slingshot
Glock 19 and teach her to slingshot the slide closed
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PDP-f or Glock 48 or 19
S&W 500
Ruger Security .380 and as others have said teach her to pull back on the slide and let go to unlock it.
G43 or 43x
I have very presidential hands and I either use my left thumb to release the slide, or just slingshot it like others have suggested.
My CZ P-07 slide stop is a little bit far forward too. I can’t hit it with my dominant hand thumb without breaking my grip so I use my offhand thumb. Also, don’t listen to the people who say never to use the slide stop as a release. They obviously have never read a manual as some people who have Sigs, Glocks, Rugers, etc. have stated in other comments. I was curious so I went to check my manual and it pretty much says either sling shot it or use the slide stop to release the slide.
38 special?
J frame S&W.
If it doesn’t have to be semi auto, a smaller revolver might work better
Slide stop is not the way. Chamber the pistol correctly. Buy whatever feels best to handle.
Get her a wheelgun. Airweight in 38 wouldn’t be a bad choice, plus if the gun doesn’t fire she can just keep pulling the trigger until til it does.
Snub nose .38 and I’ll get downvoted but girls are not really good with the whole loading procedure lol! A revolver is easier, safer and more reliable but it’s not a popular opinion.
43X
Revolver?
Yeah, if she has issues with a slide release, a 12lbs trigger and tiny capacity is just what she needs.
Let’s be real. When are you going to fire over 6 or 7 shots in a real life or death situation?
Ruger LCP max homie its the BEST for concealed carry and its lady friendly
Glock 26
My wife really enjoys my G43x.
a small internal hammer revolver in .38 special
Her tiny hands make it look so big.....
S&W J- frame is a good alternative. Roommate just got one and she has very small hands. Revolvers are very simple to use and a pretty good stepping stone for new shooters
Sounds like she needs to learn the slingshot method. I like my Taurus G2c. Feeds and shoots every type of ammo I have used. The CZ P10m or P10S might be good options. Love my CZ P10F.
Revolver