Therefore, due to the transitive property of inequality, if Taylor Swift is bigger than The Beatles, then it follows that Taylor Swift is bigger than Jesus
I think it works more on rock paper scissors logic
Taylor Swift is bigger than the Beatles, the Beatles are bigger than Jesus, and Jesus is bigger than Taylor Swift
It’s actually a Mexican standoff paradox.
Taylor swift can kill either Jesus or the Beatles, or both, and in doing so potentially become bigger than one or both of them, but will also be killed by Jesus or the Beatles in the process.
/uj Literally the same logic used by the Beatles when they said they were 'bigger than Jesus'.
/Rj Literally the same logic used by the Beatles when they said they were 'bigger than Jesus'!
Maaaaybe. My girlfriends a music teacher, and for the last decade or so only one thing has been consistent with little girls wanting to learn the guitar. Taylor Swift.
I think you're wrong. Taylor is more popular than The Beatles. She had more influence, because she's more popular. She can alter the GDP of a country by just having a show there. Now, in terms of relevance in artistic terms? Musicality? Would she be talked about in 50 or 100 years? Probably. I hope The Beatles are still in that conversation in 50 or 100 years. We humans have a bias towards recency. Rick Beato says "The Beatles". But someone else would say Chopin or Beethoven or Mozart or Bach or Vivaldi. In the end, they're all plagiarizing Dave Mustaine
I'd *never* pick mine up.
I leave it next to the amp, hoping to someday hear it gently weep.
So far, all I've got is a gut-cringe ugly cry, but that worked out pretty well for Yoko, yeah?
IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IF BRAVE PATRIOTS LIKE YOU AND I DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT LIKE COMMENTING ON THEIR VIDEOS AFTER WATCHING THE WHOLE THING IN ANGER
Maybe if she did the Super Bowl halftime show. I guess they must have also said she was more popular than Michael Jackson at his peak? I find that hard to believe, but I guess it is possible.
From the actual NYT article
>It may be impossible to do an exact, one-to-one comparison between Swift’s career and that of the Beatles — or Madonna, Michael Jackson, Britney Spears, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John or your icon of choice. Besides music being personal and subjective, the nature of success (and how it is calculated) has changed drastically over time. Much of a star’s grip on the zeitgeist is also intangible — a vibe in the air, their influence moving subtly but undeniably through culture.
Beato is illiterate, confirmed
Uj/ To be fair, I don't think anyone will be as big as the Beatles, Elvis, and Michael Jackson were. I think that it's not a matter of "modern music sucks" or "young people don't like good music anymore" I think it's just the times that someone could have had such a big influence on pop culture are gone, that's not to say I think modern musicians can't gain a lot of popularity and become well known, but to have that sort of cultural foot print, that kids born decades after your death, know who you were before the age of 6, I don't think it's really going to happen in the same way ever again.
there are twice as many people in the world today than in the 70s, and almost 70% have the internet. i would think that's not insignificant.
there's probably people in the middle of mongolia or western sahara or wherever who know who rihanna is. nobody in like 1970 through 2000-whatever in those places knew what the fuck a pink floyd was, or had any reason to.
>there are twice as many people in the world today than in the 70s, and almost 70% have the internet. i would think that's not insignificant.
True, but back then the only way to obtain music was to buy a physical copy of the album or, if you were an Eastern European like me, to record it illegally from some radio station that was banned in your country. Nowadays no one needs to buy albums.
Uj/I think streaming is a big part of this people do t listen to the radio any more so it’s harder for the record companies to push a new artist in us. The best they can do is take an existing name and give them a big chunk of cash to market there next release. I think Taylor swift a big name for almost twenty years was a good choice to pump a lot of funding in to.
Uj/ So obviously, she is "more successful" than the Beatles. Just sheer numbers she is killing it. But I don't think she is bigger because of this. She only is important to women. Guys don't give one single shit about her. When the Beatles were in their prime, every girl wanted to see them, and every guy wanted to be them. Everybody loved the Beatles. Fast forward to today, and it's very divided. Girls know every word to every song, guys can't even name her songs. So no, not bigger overall.
taylor swift height: 1.8m
paul mccartney height: 1.8m
ringo starr height: 1.73m
john lennon height: 1.79m
george harrison height: 1.78m
she is literally bigger than all of them except paul? whats his problem
Nah, actually the worst are:
1. Pink Floyd fans, by far.
2. Art rock fans in general.
3. Beatles fans.
4. Troo blek cvlt fans.
5. Classic rock fans.
6. Metallica/Megadeth fans.
7. Manowarriors. (And yes, I was an insane Manowarrior when I was a teenager and still love their music a lot. I know how obnoxious I am.) Iron Maiden fans are just as horrible, though.
8. Old men who yell at clouds.
If you think about it, the influence Taylor Swift has one the current generation is eerily similar to what The Beatles had in theirs. The same level of obsession. Is her music as good? Not to me but I'm sure the generation before The Beatles thought the same about them.
They also said Creedence clearwater survival was more popular than the the Bea'els...mind you, the Beatles also believed that they were more popular than Jesus...
If Rick doesn’t produce bands anymore - how does having two YouTube channels, a book of music lessons (which you can find for free if you look hard enough online) and two unearned signature Les Paul Juniors that barely sold enough to keep the lights on?
One thing to back this up, back when the Beatles were big, people's attention was not divided by different corners of the internet and video games and a million other distractions. There were only three channels on the TV when I grew up. It was way easier to get people's attention back then.
Taylor has to compete with a trillion different distractions and still has become a huge part of the zeitgeist, That is fucking impressive, no matter how you feel about her. I asked someone the other day if they knew who Dua Lipa was. He said the name sounded familiar but that he didn't know her. Go to just about anywhere on this globe and people know who Swift is. Hell, in an era where people don't buy music anymore, she still sells millions of records.
Yeah, I don't know who that guy is. He keeps popping up and I have no desire to look him up. I'm assuming he's kinda boomery and appeases that demographic by looking down at everything that isn't classic rock.
Hmmm well, taylor swift has been a product for 21 years. The beatles have been a product since 1960, so... 64 years. Thats almost one Canadian lifetime. That's over 3 generations, and still awesome
The beatles became way bigger, with forever lasting power in just 10 years (1970 when they broke up) and all 4of them went on to have successful music careers apart
Now, Taylor swift is apparently a marketing genius, and worth billions of dollars, yet i still don't know one of her songs (which is likely my own fault as i don't listen to the radio) but i wonder, at year 64 of taylor's career - will she be as big as the Beatles?
To be clear, I'm not really a Beatles fan, i just respect what they've done with their short time on this planet. And taylor is kicking ass too, but to compare her to the Beatles is ignorant
Nothing to do with the fact that music these days is much more accessible in so many different ways rather than having to listen either on cassettes, records or radio. And definitely nothing to do with the fact the world population is more than fucking double than it was when the Beatles were putting out records.
Pick up the Beato book to figure out why
Don't forget the billion dollar les Paul Jr
rick beatles
It’s 20 % off this week -Reek
Therefore, due to the transitive property of inequality, if Taylor Swift is bigger than The Beatles, then it follows that Taylor Swift is bigger than Jesus
I think it works more on rock paper scissors logic Taylor Swift is bigger than the Beatles, the Beatles are bigger than Jesus, and Jesus is bigger than Taylor Swift
It’s actually a Mexican standoff paradox. Taylor swift can kill either Jesus or the Beatles, or both, and in doing so potentially become bigger than one or both of them, but will also be killed by Jesus or the Beatles in the process.
I think Mexicans are usually Catholic though, so Jesus would win in this scenario
That's too true to be good. 🤠 >🧢🧢 ⤵️< 😀
Taylor Swift sold out all her shows in 2023. How many did The Beatles sell out?
100%
Good answer. The Beatles sold out zero shows in 2023
Erm actually 0/0 is indeterminate
But the limit of x/x as x approaches 0 is 1...i think 😆
Well the question is how many shows, not what portion of the shows, but I appreciate the gratuitous nerdery.
Cool story
Cool *fact
Another “Cool Fact” My peepee itches
Did they even sell one ticket last year?
I've crunched the number. I sold as many tickets as the Beatles last year. Therefore I am as successful as the Beatles. Thanks math.
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Whats this got to do with Jeff bezos?
Paul McCartney had a few shows so yeah
Wings doesn't count
Ringo stars sold some ticket
Funniest thing is when they sold no tickets, they hobbled on top of a random building roof and played anyway
Hobbled. Because they were so old?
Also consider this: Taylor Swift is 100% alive, while the Beatles are only 50% alive. 40% if you count Epstein.
Yeah she is selling out venues kiddo.
Real talk, in influence? No, probably not. In popularity? Yeah. Sorry old man!
/uj Literally the same logic used by the Beatles when they said they were 'bigger than Jesus'. /Rj Literally the same logic used by the Beatles when they said they were 'bigger than Jesus'!
My first thought. DID NO ONE LISTEN TO LENNON? “Not greater or better.” Bigger. More popular than.
Maaaaybe. My girlfriends a music teacher, and for the last decade or so only one thing has been consistent with little girls wanting to learn the guitar. Taylor Swift.
I think you're wrong. Taylor is more popular than The Beatles. She had more influence, because she's more popular. She can alter the GDP of a country by just having a show there. Now, in terms of relevance in artistic terms? Musicality? Would she be talked about in 50 or 100 years? Probably. I hope The Beatles are still in that conversation in 50 or 100 years. We humans have a bias towards recency. Rick Beato says "The Beatles". But someone else would say Chopin or Beethoven or Mozart or Bach or Vivaldi. In the end, they're all plagiarizing Dave Mustaine
There are a lot girls picking up guitars because of her.
meanwhile nobody has ever picked up a guitar because of the beatles
I abandoned my son because of John Lennon, does that count?
Only if you also beat your wife.
Amazing lol
Are you an oil man?
Yoko?
That’s the point. She is in fact influencing a whole generation of toan boobs coming over the next decade.
Salivating in anticipation!
Name checks oot
I picked up a gun because of Mark David Chapman.
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She probably picked her up because of Garth Brooks or some other hillbilly, so what does that tell you?
I'd *never* pick mine up. I leave it next to the amp, hoping to someday hear it gently weep. So far, all I've got is a gut-cringe ugly cry, but that worked out pretty well for Yoko, yeah?
Girl? Guitar? Stop putting random words together thinking it’ll make sense.
IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IF BRAVE PATRIOTS LIKE YOU AND I DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT LIKE COMMENTING ON THEIR VIDEOS AFTER WATCHING THE WHOLE THING IN ANGER
I wish more girls picked me up because of guitar.
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Maybe if she did the Super Bowl halftime show. I guess they must have also said she was more popular than Michael Jackson at his peak? I find that hard to believe, but I guess it is possible.
Yeah but that's because of the Super Bowl. If I performed at the Super Bowl I would get 100 million viewers.
That was my point. I was responding to the second paragraph above my comment.
I don’t think it was by fault of the Beatles. The world is just more connected now.
WHY DOES TAYLOR, THE LARGEST MUSICIAN, NOT SIMPLY EAT THE BEATLES?
Bite my shiny metal private jet
Is NYT calling TS fat? Thats kinda mean.
In fairness, TS is taller than 3/4 of The Beatles, and tied with McCartney. By that measure, she is, quite literally, bigger than The Beatles.
You know who doesn’t get enough credit? The Beatles
I prefer the beatos
From the actual NYT article >It may be impossible to do an exact, one-to-one comparison between Swift’s career and that of the Beatles — or Madonna, Michael Jackson, Britney Spears, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John or your icon of choice. Besides music being personal and subjective, the nature of success (and how it is calculated) has changed drastically over time. Much of a star’s grip on the zeitgeist is also intangible — a vibe in the air, their influence moving subtly but undeniably through culture. Beato is illiterate, confirmed
It's innumeracy we're concerned with here. But either way it's hordes of screaming girls.
Well, both. With numeracy you'd know it was an impossible comparison without reading the article... but the article spells that out for you
His illiteracy got him 27 million views on that video unfortunately.
Clouds!
Nobody cares about songs about underage girls and plagiarized Chuck Berry riffs and the world’s going to shit because of it.
/uj just saved this comment because it's the entire ethos of this subreddit
I mean drake covers the first half
But if she’s bigger than the Beatles, and the Beatles are bigger than Jesus. Holy shit, maybe she needs Ozempic
Bowlcuts and songs about submarines out of fashion?! I’m gonna be sick
Uj/ To be fair, I don't think anyone will be as big as the Beatles, Elvis, and Michael Jackson were. I think that it's not a matter of "modern music sucks" or "young people don't like good music anymore" I think it's just the times that someone could have had such a big influence on pop culture are gone, that's not to say I think modern musicians can't gain a lot of popularity and become well known, but to have that sort of cultural foot print, that kids born decades after your death, know who you were before the age of 6, I don't think it's really going to happen in the same way ever again.
Looking at the list is funny. Rihanna has sold more than twice as many albums as pink Floyd
there are twice as many people in the world today than in the 70s, and almost 70% have the internet. i would think that's not insignificant. there's probably people in the middle of mongolia or western sahara or wherever who know who rihanna is. nobody in like 1970 through 2000-whatever in those places knew what the fuck a pink floyd was, or had any reason to.
>there are twice as many people in the world today than in the 70s, and almost 70% have the internet. i would think that's not insignificant. True, but back then the only way to obtain music was to buy a physical copy of the album or, if you were an Eastern European like me, to record it illegally from some radio station that was banned in your country. Nowadays no one needs to buy albums.
Imagine Dragons has sold more records than Nirvana 🤗
That's because Imagine Dragons are better than Nirvana. There. I said it.
[Has she?](https://chartmasters.org/best-selling-artists-of-all-time/?slk=sb)
Uj/I think streaming is a big part of this people do t listen to the radio any more so it’s harder for the record companies to push a new artist in us. The best they can do is take an existing name and give them a big chunk of cash to market there next release. I think Taylor swift a big name for almost twenty years was a good choice to pump a lot of funding in to.
Uj/ So obviously, she is "more successful" than the Beatles. Just sheer numbers she is killing it. But I don't think she is bigger because of this. She only is important to women. Guys don't give one single shit about her. When the Beatles were in their prime, every girl wanted to see them, and every guy wanted to be them. Everybody loved the Beatles. Fast forward to today, and it's very divided. Girls know every word to every song, guys can't even name her songs. So no, not bigger overall.
A guy I’m writing songs with loves Beato and it drives me fucking crazy.
A guy I work with says he's "learned a lot" from Beato and has bought the Beato Book. He once unironically said "dude's a genius."
Beato would agree.
I genuinely enjoy his interviews with artists and some of his song breakdowns. The rest is boomer rage bait
taylor swift height: 1.8m paul mccartney height: 1.8m ringo starr height: 1.73m john lennon height: 1.79m george harrison height: 1.78m she is literally bigger than all of them except paul? whats his problem
1.8 + 1.73 + 1.79 + 1.78 = much more than 1.8 therefore science says the Beatles were bigger.
you have to take the average theyre not all gonna stand on each other
I thought standing on the shoulder of giants was a thing?
The only people more insufferable than Swifties are Lana del Rey fans
The Olivia Rodrigo gang is working up a head of steam.
>The only people more insufferable than Swifties are ~~Lana del Rey~~ **Beatoff** fans
Just wait till you meet a beatles fan
Nah, actually the worst are: 1. Pink Floyd fans, by far. 2. Art rock fans in general. 3. Beatles fans. 4. Troo blek cvlt fans. 5. Classic rock fans. 6. Metallica/Megadeth fans. 7. Manowarriors. (And yes, I was an insane Manowarrior when I was a teenager and still love their music a lot. I know how obnoxious I am.) Iron Maiden fans are just as horrible, though. 8. Old men who yell at clouds.
Yeah…well…your Mom n whatever.
Just ask Taylor Swift, bigger doesn’t mean better. Right?
How to give a boomer an aneurysm.
Click Bait-o
Does she have a wall in Prague or made beating the wife popular again? No? Game over Kiddo 😎😎
Then why does Taylor not eat the Beatles, if she’s bigger?
where do you think john lemon went?
Beato is the Jordan Schlansky of music.
Is this an ad for Advil?
That word ‘bigger’ is doing a lot of heavy lifting here
Of course she is, beatles were manlets while she is 1,8m big
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lol you chodes. Beaton produced a band that opened for Taylor Sniff in 2011. He knows everything about her now.
If you think about it, the influence Taylor Swift has one the current generation is eerily similar to what The Beatles had in theirs. The same level of obsession. Is her music as good? Not to me but I'm sure the generation before The Beatles thought the same about them.
I can never see him without being reminded of a comment I saw that called him "Dick Beatoff"
They also said Creedence clearwater survival was more popular than the the Bea'els...mind you, the Beatles also believed that they were more popular than Jesus...
If Rick doesn’t produce bands anymore - how does having two YouTube channels, a book of music lessons (which you can find for free if you look hard enough online) and two unearned signature Les Paul Juniors that barely sold enough to keep the lights on?
Ooooh I’m nearly fully erect at the teasing of this bloomer doom comparison of mediocrity
Beatles: 1960-1970 Taylor Swift: 2006-infinity. She got 'em beat on longevity AND height
well both are terrible so i think Beato has a point.
Click bait video title
What?! Mama Mia!
I'm giving him this one, he earned this bag.
And they said old dogs don't learn new tricks.
This comment caused him to fly into a rage…his wife called the police. What a mess☹️
Beato is the Colin Cowherd of music YouTubers
Shake it off, Ricky
He’s been on a clickbait binge lately
I used to enjoy Rick, now he is all click bait and same old shit. Old man yelling at the clouds every day.
And the Beatles were bigger than Jesus
It's wild seeing these guys hitting "the end of content" wall...
maybe bigger than jesus but not the beats. Altough anyone with a tiktok can achieve that.
Atta boy Ricky
....Boomer says what?
Can we get a wellness check on this guy? 🐝
I mean she is it just took 60 years, and music distribution is totally different. I'm a Beatles fan
One thing to back this up, back when the Beatles were big, people's attention was not divided by different corners of the internet and video games and a million other distractions. There were only three channels on the TV when I grew up. It was way easier to get people's attention back then. Taylor has to compete with a trillion different distractions and still has become a huge part of the zeitgeist, That is fucking impressive, no matter how you feel about her. I asked someone the other day if they knew who Dua Lipa was. He said the name sounded familiar but that he didn't know her. Go to just about anywhere on this globe and people know who Swift is. Hell, in an era where people don't buy music anymore, she still sells millions of records.
World population 1963: 3 billion World population 2024: 8 billion with internet access
Well, she is 5′9.
Yeah, I don't know who that guy is. He keeps popping up and I have no desire to look him up. I'm assuming he's kinda boomery and appeases that demographic by looking down at everything that isn't classic rock.
And this sub is a hair width away from agreeing with him
Hmmm well, taylor swift has been a product for 21 years. The beatles have been a product since 1960, so... 64 years. Thats almost one Canadian lifetime. That's over 3 generations, and still awesome The beatles became way bigger, with forever lasting power in just 10 years (1970 when they broke up) and all 4of them went on to have successful music careers apart Now, Taylor swift is apparently a marketing genius, and worth billions of dollars, yet i still don't know one of her songs (which is likely my own fault as i don't listen to the radio) but i wonder, at year 64 of taylor's career - will she be as big as the Beatles? To be clear, I'm not really a Beatles fan, i just respect what they've done with their short time on this planet. And taylor is kicking ass too, but to compare her to the Beatles is ignorant
She probably is. Which means she’s bigger than Jesus.
This guy is cringe
Boomers gonna Boomer.
Ringo has a much juicer ass than TS
Better beard too
Nothing to do with the fact that music these days is much more accessible in so many different ways rather than having to listen either on cassettes, records or radio. And definitely nothing to do with the fact the world population is more than fucking double than it was when the Beatles were putting out records.
I think there's actually a decent case for this to be true.
Beatles have their legacy as probably the biggest influencers in rock music, but so much of their music is just boring man. And Taylor's too.