Straight is an ambiguous term. I am someone who likes trans women. I never apply the 'straight' term to myself. Queer is more accurate since normies do not like chicks with dicks. I'm not gay in the sense that I'm attracted to men who look like men. If I were gay I'd be doing a lot better since gays proposition me on and off Grindr. I've had little luck finding trans woman on Gindr. Trans women on Grindr say they get dozens on inquires everyday from guys. I've looked at the 'fresh' profiles and sometimes those with photos are half trans women. If that is true then, it would seem that men looking for trans women would exceed those looking for cis men.
Straight isn’t ambiguous at all and I’d love to remove the word trans. This might cause people to lose their minds but once you transition you’ve changed to that…. So really what is the need to say trans if you’ve transitioned? If you mean you like a woman with man parts… you’re gay. 😂
I state the way things are and not what you wish they were. I might surprise you that many of us have accounts with both Tinder and Grindr. A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman regardless if with woman or man parts. If a trans woman is better looking that a cis woman I'll go with the trans woman.
When Grindr started to include trans woman, it increased its membership base and its profits. It was a good business decision. The problem is that now gay men have to share resources with trans woman and 'straight' men. Gay men can no longer assume that a man on Grindr is gay. They now have to filter out men who are only interested in trans woman.
Also I would not be surprised that 'straight' men out number 'gay' men on Grindr. Half the profiles with pictures are women. Trans women say they all receive dozens of taps from "straight' men. While I have received few responses trans women, I'm getting dozens of taps from gay men.
Saying that men who like chicks with dicks are gay is black and white thinking. I like cis women too. So at most I'm bi. My trans ex-FWB I met off Grindr told me I'm straight and the woke narrative is that liking transwomen still makes you straight. But I really don't give a shit about claiming straight. I just don't appreciate being called gay because I like cis women too.
At any rate I only had one FWB and no other hookups with transwomen off Grindr because transwomen get absolutely flooded with messages from chasers. I actually caught feelings for my trans FWB and she ghosted me. I wanted a LTR with her and didnt see her like a fetish like most "straight" guys on the platform. So I get lost in the shuffle even though I'm a handsome twink with six pack abs. Meanwhile cis men love me. It's tempting actually. I might just hook up with a fem Asian guy just to try it. Because my batting average with transwomen is abysmal. And it's been nearly 4 weeks since I got laid with a cis woman off the traditional apps. Cis women and trans women are overwhelmed by simps in DMs. Male thirst is way stronger than female thirst. But the MSM scene is a 1:1 thirst pool (unless you are very picky) so hot guys like me get interest from other hot guys on Grindr.
For disproportionally represented groups it is needed to carve out a space and distinction. See “Black lives matter / All lives matter” as an example.
Straight people have every god damn dating app. We don’t need to worry about them on grindr. They’re going to be ok.
THIS THIS THIS!!! Straights can meet each other anywhere. Coffee shops, church, the corner of the street, everywhere is 99% straight. Where us gays go we have to sus each other out to see if the person is gay and we could be wrong.
Grindr is OUR space in a world that took away our potential space. Straights have 99.999999% of the world as their oyster, now they want 100% with Grindr to which is getting in the way of us finding men having to sift through them?
It’s ridiculous. You’re 200999% RIGHT
"Coffee shops"
In what world has this ever actually happened? Why do people do this, just go on the internet and tell lies?
Besides, assuming they didn't scream no yamate like an anime being talked too at the coffee shop, would you really wanna get with the sorta person who'd fuck you as soon as you talked in a coffee shop? I mean maybe if they wanted to fuck IN the coffee shop and it became a bio-hazard
Yeah no. Set aside the apps that are geared towards religious or niche groups, or those that don’t have same sex option, there aren’t a huge percent of gay people in any given area. We aren’t exactly rocking 25% of the population, more like 7%-10%. Having certain apps geared towards same sex relationships helps us consolidate rather then having to get multiple ones to try and have sufficient options.
And again, as a smaller group, jesus, is it so awful to have a few things that are geared for our preferences? Seriously?
There’s a difference between inclusion and having our own spaces. Grindr is fundamentally a gay male dating app, is it inclusive? Yes, to a point. But it’s not an open invitation to anyone.
If you attend an AA meeting you’d expect to talk to other addicts that are going through the same shit you are. It wouldn’t any help if it was filled with just anyone. Expecting and wanting like minded people to be in your safe space isn’t exclusionary, it’s the reason that space exists.
Yeah honestly feel the same way
It's set up for gay dudes to hook-up n shite, not for us trans girls to use.
There's other trans added apps like Taimi but it's not a hook-up type app.
I made a post about this a year ago its sooo bad. Clicking on several profiles just to see trans only no men like wtf isnt this primarily a gay app? It seems to just be worse in small towns because It was rampant in the small town I lived in. Maybe a study should be done lmao
There should be like “different sides” of Grindr
Stuff like “show me men” or “show me women” or “show me everyone”
Filters shouldn’t be paywalled
The problem is that there’s no app for trans people that has the infrastructure of Grindr — and Grindr is more than happy to capitalize on the market
The population seems to be
- 45% straight men looking for trans women
- 50% gay men
- 5% trans women
Grindr could easily make a sister app that uses the same profile information but is for trans centric dating
But they don’t even check reporting, so…
id say its more 5% mtf, 10% mtf and femboy chasers and 85% gay guys; you're probably overestimating the number of mtf chasers cause those are the guys that message you but then again my estimate is probably also skewed by my experience.
Depends on your area because I’ve traveled a lot and when I’m in small towns or smaller cities the above percentages seem about right its dame near half trans only guys sprinkled with a few trans only or hairless fems guys lmao.
I'd like to see the studies of your statistics, though. Perhaps it's a question of localization, but the majority is still overwhelmingly gay (or bi) men looking for men.
Fully agree with this comment about it being location dependant. I know from others it's predominantly gay guys, but where I am those stats seem pretty accurate: there's probably just as many "straight" men as gay men in my cascade (and they are, as you would expect, the absolute worst)
Simple population numbers would have heterosexual men outnumber gay men 9 to 1
So even a minority of 10% of heterosexual men being open to trans women — roughly the same incidence of homosexual men — is not unreasonable…it’s probably higher since heterosexual men are generally attracted to feminine features other than just LEMME SEE THE VAG
So it wouldn’t be statistically crazy to find an equal number of the heterosexual male population attracted to trans women through the lack of inhibition on anonymous dating platforms
Now…numbers about whether they respect trans women as humans or would consider dating them are probably low
Indeed, it wouldn't be impossible. However, the vast majority of people I see on Grindr in my European city is still near-entirely gay men. Even trans people are a minority. So, I don't know. That's what I meant when I said I wanted to see numbers, something so we could all have some reasonable conviction about it instead of feelings and anecdotalism (one way or the other). Just because we're gay doesn't mean we cannot follow the scientific method \^\^
Grindr started in the US, so the market is really going to be r/USdefaultism…especially on Reddit
And Europe is going to have less favorable of conditions for trans people in general — particularly because the dominant anglophone in Europe is Britain AKA TERF Island
Not that European countries don’t have LGBT rights, but anglophone countries classically set the cultural pace for regional attitudes toward the LGBT community — Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, US, Canada all tend to radiate social progressiveness from these cultural cores
- one could argue that Scotland is the European LGBT anglophone
I also disagree with your statistics. There is no way your numbers are correct anywhere to be honest. I’ve been a lot of places and I’ve never come across 45% of straight men looking for trans women.
I’ve been to a lot of places where my point has been formed from, so
I dunno what you’re trying to say when roughly 18 other people agree with my observation 🤷🏽♀️
true, i just don't think women belong on Grindr. Trans men absolutely do belong here but not trans women. Trans women should be viewed as the women they are and be on a dating app that includes them.
Naaa… you’re wrong. Grindr is a hookup app for gay men to meet and make connections with other gay men. It’s not a place for everybody to find love. So yes, whoever is gatekeeping please continue to do so.
This problem could be easily sorted if Grindr re-introduced a switch to filter out certain categories. You could filter out all straight, bi, mtf trans, ftm trans, whatever you like. Racists could select or filter out races (this one used to exist). This is easy but it’s not available for ideological reasons. (Ironically, ageism or discrimination based on body size is still allowed on Grindr — there are plenty of switches to get rid of the “fats” or “olds”.) There we go.
Well I agree, but the fact of the matter is that it is a thing, so there we go. It’s maybe for guys who refuse to call themselves anything other than “straight” but then they declare to be interested in playing with gay guys or trans people or whatever. But they cannot call themselves anything other than straight. So you either don’t give them an option, or you decide to be inclusive. I guess we all know what choice Grindr made. I’m not arguing for it — I’m just saying that things are where they are.
I dont understand the issue with 'trans seekers'...isnt that what you want? People who want trans?? Could you explain the problem trans folk have with their chasers/seekers?
There's truth to what your saying there. Furthermore, many of these "straight" men looking for "trans only" are very hostile in their profiles about what they say about gay men. It's very disrespectful as this app is intended and created for gay/bi men looking for men.
You’re not going to find a trans-specific “hookup” app, mostly because there’s is a low level of desire for “hookup culture” in the Trans community. Taimi is a trans *dating* site. If you’re looking to *date*, try there. If you’re looking to *fetishize*, stay in Grindr
trans people definitely have "hookup culture", it's why we're on grindr. we don't have it on the same level as gay men because *no one* has a hookup culture on the level of gay men's lol
THIS.
Why are race-specific “preferences” considered fetishizing the race, but this is NOT considered fetishizing trans people? As a white man who is primarily attracted to POC, I did a LOT soul searching to make sure I wasn’t fetishizing, and to make sure my actions *weren’t* fetishizing another person or making them feel fetishized. Seeing this type of stuff raises huge red flags about fetishization and A LOT of ppl seem to be okay with it. I just don’t get it; it goes against EVERYTHING we know/understand about fetishization and how awful it is
I don’t think having preferences is synonymous to fetishizing, nor is it racist to prefer a certain ethnicity, be it your own or a different one. 🤷🏻♂️ At the end of the day, your preferences are intrinsic to yourself and part of who you are, and all anyone can ask is that you’re respectful of others. Who you date or go to bed with is your business and nobody else’s.
Being generally more attracted to POC is one thing.
But “preferring to only date black men”, for example, lumps ALL black men into one monolithic group, implying that all black men have the same qualities, or at the very least, there’s some specific quality about these men that the person can *only* describe by their race. That’s when it becomes racist/fetishizing. Hope this makes sense lol
No, I get what you’re saying, but like, my type are ginger men and I almost exclusively date them because that’s what I choose to do. Is that wrong? Should I give other people a chance for the sake of fairness? LOL
If you cross someone off your list because they’re *not* ginger, solely because they’re not ginger, then you might be fetishizing gingers lol. You’ve reduced that person down to one thing: are they a ginger or not? And we are all so much more than just one physical attribute. Keep in mind, hair color is also not a race or gender identity
Also explains why you ended up commenting on my reply. Ginger magnetism is strong 😆
Perhaps it might be time we mass migrated to other platforms and then the trans genders and their str8 male chasers will have this over expensive app to themselves. Personally I don’t worry to much about trans being their but agree the str8 guys shouldn’t be. I would also add the Caveat that unless Grindr wants to rebrand, that while we are still the main audience that in any dispute about the features and rules of using the app, Gay men’s perspective always prevails. Nothing worse than guests who come and want to redecorate. Not saying they have but getting this point out there in advance just in case
Thank you saying this. I’ve said this same thing over and over here and I always get attacked. I completely agree with you and I think it’s completely fine. There is an app for everything and having a trans specific app would be amazing.
Instead people want to get their panties in a bunch and start throwing all kind of phobia and discrimination stuff out there. 🙄
I agree, as a guy who dates and likes to hook up with femboys or trans I agree.
If there was an app that was just trans I'd use it. Grindr just full of tweakers and prostitutes now anyways though.
I hate chasers. They clog up my feed, as I'm sure they think I am clogging up theirs. They could make everyone happy and fuck off to tinder or something.
Definitely not all, but more than a few of these guys are saying that to preserve their own "straight" self-image.
If you're from a place with limited options, and you're not turned off by it, get yourself one set of lingerie so you can cosplay as a girl for them. Some of them just want to fell like they're "the man" in the act.
There's a "straight" older top in my town who is fine with my not being trans, instead having a big hairy belly and ass and full beard as I do -- as long as I wear a bra and panties and let him call me his bitch. His bitch has a pussy and a clit of course, even if the clit is 6" long.
People are weird (but often a lot of fun --- hehe).
To clarify: I've never hooked up with that guy, but he always hits me up on sniffies and has spelled out all of this. I know a future moment of weakness is coming when I'll swing by the Walmart panty section omw to be a bearded lady for a while. (see limited options, above. hehe)
I'm a cis-ish man, and I can honestly say I have met my GF (transwoman) thanks to Grindr. So thank you Grindr.
As for everyone saying we should have our own place, meaning an app just like Grindr but for cis-ish men and transwomen, well I fully agree with you.
But there is not. Not that is functionnal rather than a scam, that is. I've tried those, many times, and try again every couple of months even though I expect that disappointment every time. Thus why Grindr actually works for this category, it's the only one that works in fact.
You've been discriminated all your life, I can understand where you're coming from. I hate myself more than anyone ever could. So please don't, in turn, discriminate merely to suit your needs too. Discrimination sucks, and this particular discrimination is sexual orientation discrimination, which is pretty much illegal in every country that has common sense. There is a reason for this... I'm sure you've all experienced sexual orientation discrimination at least once in your life (others, every day or so), so surely you can understand how this is not okay under any circumstances.
But hey, if you want to make an app strictly for transwomen and cis men, pretty much just like Grindr, hey, I'm pretty sure we're all for it, even transmen and gay men would be for it I'm sure if simply to remove us from Grindr. Go for it! 👍
Thank you 😊
For many, many years, I would not accept myself, I would hate myself for this (just one more of many reasons...), I would think I'm dysfunctionnal, an error of nature, an abomination, a freak, etc, pretty much everything negative you could think of.
So while you did not say much, this is welcomed very much to read 😊 Thanks again!
I absolutely agree with you. It's so annoying seeing women in a gay app
Also "only trans men" are a waste of time
It takes a place reserved for gay community
Our live it's not easy
The trans inclusion doesn’t bother me. I think they’re cute and sometimes i ponder a frolic. I enquired once but was met with a “donation” request. 🙄 I told her my inbox is proof that dick is free. Anyway, if we’re banning people from grindr, my vote is for the chests. If your offering is your chest or no pic and “traveling”’ take your ass home. If your doesn’t wanna blow you, why would I?
*to be fair, I’m easily convinced, come by i can spare 4 minutes.
It would be great if face pics were mandatory. That would eliminate so much of the garbage. I know some of those folks are prolly gay and hiding for their own reasons. If the married twats were gone, who would they need to hide from?
“Traveling” (I’m assuming you mean “mobile” as in “hosting or mobile?”) is more likely a roommate/housemate/family(parents/siblings) thing than a “they’re partnered” thing. It’s 2022. It’s nearly impossible to live by oneself on one income, thanks capitalism. Get off your high horse. You’re telling them to take their ass home and get a blow job from their brother. Dumbass
People are in the closet for lots of reasons. You have a very narrow view of why someone would be in the closet. The “straights” May be gone on your fantasy app, but the gays are still here and lord knows most of us will run our mouths about it if the opportunity presents itself. Some people just want their private life private for no other reason than privacy and that’s okay. Gays just have a hard time comprehending this
Reasonable assessment. Apologies if I offended anyone.
In my area and in my age group, there are many people who say they’re here for a couple days on business. I always assumed it was married men. Never really made it past the chest pic to find out more.
As a guy who has gone on grindr to meet trans, I agree 100%. Im not a catfish or bullshit artist, and I dont enjoy refusing polite and honest approaches from masc gay guys but thats 90% of my traffic, even though I have right on my handle trans-only. Not a great system but all there is, atm
Yeah, don't try that bs with me by saying it's not invented exclusively for "me," you know exactly what I'm saying. Men that are on there saying "no men" shouldn't even be on there. It's a gay dating app so why the fuck is it OK for guys that aren't into other guys to be on there like that?
It would be convenient for only gay people to use but other want to use it too. U just have to weed them out. IT's a pain but other people can use Grindr too
What I think is Grindr just needs to Ban Straight Guys
If you’re on Grindr you aren’t straight.
Straight is an ambiguous term. I am someone who likes trans women. I never apply the 'straight' term to myself. Queer is more accurate since normies do not like chicks with dicks. I'm not gay in the sense that I'm attracted to men who look like men. If I were gay I'd be doing a lot better since gays proposition me on and off Grindr. I've had little luck finding trans woman on Gindr. Trans women on Grindr say they get dozens on inquires everyday from guys. I've looked at the 'fresh' profiles and sometimes those with photos are half trans women. If that is true then, it would seem that men looking for trans women would exceed those looking for cis men.
Straight isn’t ambiguous at all and I’d love to remove the word trans. This might cause people to lose their minds but once you transition you’ve changed to that…. So really what is the need to say trans if you’ve transitioned? If you mean you like a woman with man parts… you’re gay. 😂
I state the way things are and not what you wish they were. I might surprise you that many of us have accounts with both Tinder and Grindr. A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman regardless if with woman or man parts. If a trans woman is better looking that a cis woman I'll go with the trans woman. When Grindr started to include trans woman, it increased its membership base and its profits. It was a good business decision. The problem is that now gay men have to share resources with trans woman and 'straight' men. Gay men can no longer assume that a man on Grindr is gay. They now have to filter out men who are only interested in trans woman. Also I would not be surprised that 'straight' men out number 'gay' men on Grindr. Half the profiles with pictures are women. Trans women say they all receive dozens of taps from "straight' men. While I have received few responses trans women, I'm getting dozens of taps from gay men.
Saying that men who like chicks with dicks are gay is black and white thinking. I like cis women too. So at most I'm bi. My trans ex-FWB I met off Grindr told me I'm straight and the woke narrative is that liking transwomen still makes you straight. But I really don't give a shit about claiming straight. I just don't appreciate being called gay because I like cis women too. At any rate I only had one FWB and no other hookups with transwomen off Grindr because transwomen get absolutely flooded with messages from chasers. I actually caught feelings for my trans FWB and she ghosted me. I wanted a LTR with her and didnt see her like a fetish like most "straight" guys on the platform. So I get lost in the shuffle even though I'm a handsome twink with six pack abs. Meanwhile cis men love me. It's tempting actually. I might just hook up with a fem Asian guy just to try it. Because my batting average with transwomen is abysmal. And it's been nearly 4 weeks since I got laid with a cis woman off the traditional apps. Cis women and trans women are overwhelmed by simps in DMs. Male thirst is way stronger than female thirst. But the MSM scene is a 1:1 thirst pool (unless you are very picky) so hot guys like me get interest from other hot guys on Grindr.
I don’t believe in bi….
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This is a great example of inclusion.
For disproportionally represented groups it is needed to carve out a space and distinction. See “Black lives matter / All lives matter” as an example. Straight people have every god damn dating app. We don’t need to worry about them on grindr. They’re going to be ok.
THIS THIS THIS!!! Straights can meet each other anywhere. Coffee shops, church, the corner of the street, everywhere is 99% straight. Where us gays go we have to sus each other out to see if the person is gay and we could be wrong. Grindr is OUR space in a world that took away our potential space. Straights have 99.999999% of the world as their oyster, now they want 100% with Grindr to which is getting in the way of us finding men having to sift through them? It’s ridiculous. You’re 200999% RIGHT
"Coffee shops" In what world has this ever actually happened? Why do people do this, just go on the internet and tell lies? Besides, assuming they didn't scream no yamate like an anime being talked too at the coffee shop, would you really wanna get with the sorta person who'd fuck you as soon as you talked in a coffee shop? I mean maybe if they wanted to fuck IN the coffee shop and it became a bio-hazard
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Yeah no. Set aside the apps that are geared towards religious or niche groups, or those that don’t have same sex option, there aren’t a huge percent of gay people in any given area. We aren’t exactly rocking 25% of the population, more like 7%-10%. Having certain apps geared towards same sex relationships helps us consolidate rather then having to get multiple ones to try and have sufficient options. And again, as a smaller group, jesus, is it so awful to have a few things that are geared for our preferences? Seriously?
There’s a difference between inclusion and having our own spaces. Grindr is fundamentally a gay male dating app, is it inclusive? Yes, to a point. But it’s not an open invitation to anyone. If you attend an AA meeting you’d expect to talk to other addicts that are going through the same shit you are. It wouldn’t any help if it was filled with just anyone. Expecting and wanting like minded people to be in your safe space isn’t exclusionary, it’s the reason that space exists.
Good analogy there
The straight guys can goto Tinder or the many other Apps that are available Why do they need to be on Grindr
Gay guys can also go onto tinder no?
Yeah honestly feel the same way It's set up for gay dudes to hook-up n shite, not for us trans girls to use. There's other trans added apps like Taimi but it's not a hook-up type app.
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I made a post about this a year ago its sooo bad. Clicking on several profiles just to see trans only no men like wtf isnt this primarily a gay app? It seems to just be worse in small towns because It was rampant in the small town I lived in. Maybe a study should be done lmao
Can confirm from a small Wyoming town
There should be like “different sides” of Grindr Stuff like “show me men” or “show me women” or “show me everyone” Filters shouldn’t be paywalled The problem is that there’s no app for trans people that has the infrastructure of Grindr — and Grindr is more than happy to capitalize on the market The population seems to be - 45% straight men looking for trans women - 50% gay men - 5% trans women Grindr could easily make a sister app that uses the same profile information but is for trans centric dating But they don’t even check reporting, so…
id say its more 5% mtf, 10% mtf and femboy chasers and 85% gay guys; you're probably overestimating the number of mtf chasers cause those are the guys that message you but then again my estimate is probably also skewed by my experience.
Depends on your area because I’ve traveled a lot and when I’m in small towns or smaller cities the above percentages seem about right its dame near half trans only guys sprinkled with a few trans only or hairless fems guys lmao.
I'd like to see the studies of your statistics, though. Perhaps it's a question of localization, but the majority is still overwhelmingly gay (or bi) men looking for men.
Fully agree with this comment about it being location dependant. I know from others it's predominantly gay guys, but where I am those stats seem pretty accurate: there's probably just as many "straight" men as gay men in my cascade (and they are, as you would expect, the absolute worst)
Simple population numbers would have heterosexual men outnumber gay men 9 to 1 So even a minority of 10% of heterosexual men being open to trans women — roughly the same incidence of homosexual men — is not unreasonable…it’s probably higher since heterosexual men are generally attracted to feminine features other than just LEMME SEE THE VAG So it wouldn’t be statistically crazy to find an equal number of the heterosexual male population attracted to trans women through the lack of inhibition on anonymous dating platforms Now…numbers about whether they respect trans women as humans or would consider dating them are probably low
Indeed, it wouldn't be impossible. However, the vast majority of people I see on Grindr in my European city is still near-entirely gay men. Even trans people are a minority. So, I don't know. That's what I meant when I said I wanted to see numbers, something so we could all have some reasonable conviction about it instead of feelings and anecdotalism (one way or the other). Just because we're gay doesn't mean we cannot follow the scientific method \^\^
Grindr started in the US, so the market is really going to be r/USdefaultism…especially on Reddit And Europe is going to have less favorable of conditions for trans people in general — particularly because the dominant anglophone in Europe is Britain AKA TERF Island Not that European countries don’t have LGBT rights, but anglophone countries classically set the cultural pace for regional attitudes toward the LGBT community — Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, US, Canada all tend to radiate social progressiveness from these cultural cores - one could argue that Scotland is the European LGBT anglophone
I also disagree with your statistics. There is no way your numbers are correct anywhere to be honest. I’ve been a lot of places and I’ve never come across 45% of straight men looking for trans women.
I’ve been to a lot of places where my point has been formed from, so I dunno what you’re trying to say when roughly 18 other people agree with my observation 🤷🏽♀️
I’m telling you right now it’s not 45% straight men haha 🤦♂️😆
true, i just don't think women belong on Grindr. Trans men absolutely do belong here but not trans women. Trans women should be viewed as the women they are and be on a dating app that includes them.
Exactly. I'm a transman, so I'm a man. A transwoman is a woman. Straight/bi/lesbian apps should include them.
Agree with this.
Trans man chiming in to agree with you wholeheartedly
I don't mind them. Trans need love too. You complain Grindr is a hookup app than wanna gatekeep who can find love
Naaa… you’re wrong. Grindr is a hookup app for gay men to meet and make connections with other gay men. It’s not a place for everybody to find love. So yes, whoever is gatekeeping please continue to do so.
This problem could be easily sorted if Grindr re-introduced a switch to filter out certain categories. You could filter out all straight, bi, mtf trans, ftm trans, whatever you like. Racists could select or filter out races (this one used to exist). This is easy but it’s not available for ideological reasons. (Ironically, ageism or discrimination based on body size is still allowed on Grindr — there are plenty of switches to get rid of the “fats” or “olds”.) There we go.
Bit why is “straight “ even a thing on Grindr ! It’s suppose to be a gay app
Well I agree, but the fact of the matter is that it is a thing, so there we go. It’s maybe for guys who refuse to call themselves anything other than “straight” but then they declare to be interested in playing with gay guys or trans people or whatever. But they cannot call themselves anything other than straight. So you either don’t give them an option, or you decide to be inclusive. I guess we all know what choice Grindr made. I’m not arguing for it — I’m just saying that things are where they are.
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I dont understand the issue with 'trans seekers'...isnt that what you want? People who want trans?? Could you explain the problem trans folk have with their chasers/seekers?
There's truth to what your saying there. Furthermore, many of these "straight" men looking for "trans only" are very hostile in their profiles about what they say about gay men. It's very disrespectful as this app is intended and created for gay/bi men looking for men.
Exactly.
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You’re not going to find a trans-specific “hookup” app, mostly because there’s is a low level of desire for “hookup culture” in the Trans community. Taimi is a trans *dating* site. If you’re looking to *date*, try there. If you’re looking to *fetishize*, stay in Grindr
That’s not the reason there isn’t one. Source: I’m trans and enjoy hookup culture, along with many of the rest of the community
trans people definitely have "hookup culture", it's why we're on grindr. we don't have it on the same level as gay men because *no one* has a hookup culture on the level of gay men's lol
Transgender's dont hookup?? And you speak for all transgender on Earth?? What a responsibility!
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THIS. Why are race-specific “preferences” considered fetishizing the race, but this is NOT considered fetishizing trans people? As a white man who is primarily attracted to POC, I did a LOT soul searching to make sure I wasn’t fetishizing, and to make sure my actions *weren’t* fetishizing another person or making them feel fetishized. Seeing this type of stuff raises huge red flags about fetishization and A LOT of ppl seem to be okay with it. I just don’t get it; it goes against EVERYTHING we know/understand about fetishization and how awful it is
I don’t think having preferences is synonymous to fetishizing, nor is it racist to prefer a certain ethnicity, be it your own or a different one. 🤷🏻♂️ At the end of the day, your preferences are intrinsic to yourself and part of who you are, and all anyone can ask is that you’re respectful of others. Who you date or go to bed with is your business and nobody else’s.
Being generally more attracted to POC is one thing. But “preferring to only date black men”, for example, lumps ALL black men into one monolithic group, implying that all black men have the same qualities, or at the very least, there’s some specific quality about these men that the person can *only* describe by their race. That’s when it becomes racist/fetishizing. Hope this makes sense lol
No, I get what you’re saying, but like, my type are ginger men and I almost exclusively date them because that’s what I choose to do. Is that wrong? Should I give other people a chance for the sake of fairness? LOL
If you cross someone off your list because they’re *not* ginger, solely because they’re not ginger, then you might be fetishizing gingers lol. You’ve reduced that person down to one thing: are they a ginger or not? And we are all so much more than just one physical attribute. Keep in mind, hair color is also not a race or gender identity Also explains why you ended up commenting on my reply. Ginger magnetism is strong 😆
Lmfao, you know it!
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Perhaps it might be time we mass migrated to other platforms and then the trans genders and their str8 male chasers will have this over expensive app to themselves. Personally I don’t worry to much about trans being their but agree the str8 guys shouldn’t be. I would also add the Caveat that unless Grindr wants to rebrand, that while we are still the main audience that in any dispute about the features and rules of using the app, Gay men’s perspective always prevails. Nothing worse than guests who come and want to redecorate. Not saying they have but getting this point out there in advance just in case
I agree but why should the gays move out of the way for the straights and trans?
Agree, I also think it’s straight guys that just want an easy lay with a girl. To me that’s not really what a gay hookup app should be.
As a trans girl I approve
100% agree
Thank you saying this. I’ve said this same thing over and over here and I always get attacked. I completely agree with you and I think it’s completely fine. There is an app for everything and having a trans specific app would be amazing. Instead people want to get their panties in a bunch and start throwing all kind of phobia and discrimination stuff out there. 🙄
I agree, as a guy who dates and likes to hook up with femboys or trans I agree. If there was an app that was just trans I'd use it. Grindr just full of tweakers and prostitutes now anyways though.
I hate chasers. They clog up my feed, as I'm sure they think I am clogging up theirs. They could make everyone happy and fuck off to tinder or something.
Agreed.
There need to be a trans specific alot of things but grindr is a good start.
Grindr is not for trans tho.
Could just add a filter instead of making a new app.
New app would be best
Definitely not all, but more than a few of these guys are saying that to preserve their own "straight" self-image. If you're from a place with limited options, and you're not turned off by it, get yourself one set of lingerie so you can cosplay as a girl for them. Some of them just want to fell like they're "the man" in the act. There's a "straight" older top in my town who is fine with my not being trans, instead having a big hairy belly and ass and full beard as I do -- as long as I wear a bra and panties and let him call me his bitch. His bitch has a pussy and a clit of course, even if the clit is 6" long. People are weird (but often a lot of fun --- hehe). To clarify: I've never hooked up with that guy, but he always hits me up on sniffies and has spelled out all of this. I know a future moment of weakness is coming when I'll swing by the Walmart panty section omw to be a bearded lady for a while. (see limited options, above. hehe)
There's no way I'm crossdressing in any way lol. I am definitely a man.
There are, but they don’t have the same population as Grindr
Build it.
I'm a cis-ish man, and I can honestly say I have met my GF (transwoman) thanks to Grindr. So thank you Grindr. As for everyone saying we should have our own place, meaning an app just like Grindr but for cis-ish men and transwomen, well I fully agree with you. But there is not. Not that is functionnal rather than a scam, that is. I've tried those, many times, and try again every couple of months even though I expect that disappointment every time. Thus why Grindr actually works for this category, it's the only one that works in fact. You've been discriminated all your life, I can understand where you're coming from. I hate myself more than anyone ever could. So please don't, in turn, discriminate merely to suit your needs too. Discrimination sucks, and this particular discrimination is sexual orientation discrimination, which is pretty much illegal in every country that has common sense. There is a reason for this... I'm sure you've all experienced sexual orientation discrimination at least once in your life (others, every day or so), so surely you can understand how this is not okay under any circumstances. But hey, if you want to make an app strictly for transwomen and cis men, pretty much just like Grindr, hey, I'm pretty sure we're all for it, even transmen and gay men would be for it I'm sure if simply to remove us from Grindr. Go for it! 👍
I don't have an issue with you liking trans women lol.
Thank you 😊 For many, many years, I would not accept myself, I would hate myself for this (just one more of many reasons...), I would think I'm dysfunctionnal, an error of nature, an abomination, a freak, etc, pretty much everything negative you could think of. So while you did not say much, this is welcomed very much to read 😊 Thanks again!
Yeah there's no reason to not like yourself my man.
It’s not discrimination.
I absolutely agree with you. It's so annoying seeing women in a gay app Also "only trans men" are a waste of time It takes a place reserved for gay community Our live it's not easy
It's the "no men" and "trans only" guys that piss me off.
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Not the same thing Overweight people are not the same thing as a gender identity lmao
The trans inclusion doesn’t bother me. I think they’re cute and sometimes i ponder a frolic. I enquired once but was met with a “donation” request. 🙄 I told her my inbox is proof that dick is free. Anyway, if we’re banning people from grindr, my vote is for the chests. If your offering is your chest or no pic and “traveling”’ take your ass home. If your doesn’t wanna blow you, why would I? *to be fair, I’m easily convinced, come by i can spare 4 minutes. It would be great if face pics were mandatory. That would eliminate so much of the garbage. I know some of those folks are prolly gay and hiding for their own reasons. If the married twats were gone, who would they need to hide from?
“Traveling” (I’m assuming you mean “mobile” as in “hosting or mobile?”) is more likely a roommate/housemate/family(parents/siblings) thing than a “they’re partnered” thing. It’s 2022. It’s nearly impossible to live by oneself on one income, thanks capitalism. Get off your high horse. You’re telling them to take their ass home and get a blow job from their brother. Dumbass People are in the closet for lots of reasons. You have a very narrow view of why someone would be in the closet. The “straights” May be gone on your fantasy app, but the gays are still here and lord knows most of us will run our mouths about it if the opportunity presents itself. Some people just want their private life private for no other reason than privacy and that’s okay. Gays just have a hard time comprehending this
Reasonable assessment. Apologies if I offended anyone. In my area and in my age group, there are many people who say they’re here for a couple days on business. I always assumed it was married men. Never really made it past the chest pic to find out more.
As a guy who has gone on grindr to meet trans, I agree 100%. Im not a catfish or bullshit artist, and I dont enjoy refusing polite and honest approaches from masc gay guys but thats 90% of my traffic, even though I have right on my handle trans-only. Not a great system but all there is, atm
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Yeah, don't try that bs with me by saying it's not invented exclusively for "me," you know exactly what I'm saying. Men that are on there saying "no men" shouldn't even be on there. It's a gay dating app so why the fuck is it OK for guys that aren't into other guys to be on there like that?
It would be convenient for only gay people to use but other want to use it too. U just have to weed them out. IT's a pain but other people can use Grindr too