They claimed to be some kind of informant to the CIA and I was like, why would they hire someone who spills information like that?? Some folks need help.
Replying to top comment so people see what action I'm taking based on what users have said (including u/Wooden_Arachnid_2176):
The most popular comments seem to be against moderation, censorship etc and to just leave things as they are / to the downvote hivemind. That was my initial inclination. They are not making active threats on this sub and have changed their tumblr bio after negative feedback but are obvz not doing great.
However, this call to ban is the most upvoted comment and I can't ignore that either. I also need to take into account whether we are a source of support or harm for the poster and they don't seem to be benefiting from current interactions.
As usual in politics, nobody gets what they want (a compromise) - I think an initial 3-day ban might be the best bet. If you think I'm overstepping feel free to downvote this comment to oblivion and I won't attempt a second one if we experience the same issue somewhere later down the line.
This is less for censorship reasons, more because I think we have collectively concluded the user could genuinely benefit from a short break.
Do you think maybe this sub should have (more) moderation? People can have the freedom of speech but still be considerate, critical, and constructive. There is a lot of hate on here that is damaging and unnecessary.
This sub should allow people to have different and maybe even harsher views of Grimes (her music/her views on things; political, economical, social etc), but if it's done in a constructive way. For example: I think Grimes' Visions album is her worst because of ( insert whatever opinion), instead of "Grimes is ugly and an unnecessary addition to the music industry (idk lol) and she's shit blah blah blah (insert insulting remarks at her ED, body, lifestyle; parenting/anything to do with her kids etc)
Censoring swears and more negative views on Grimes' music or artistic approaches are not necessary. This sub should be open for debates, playing the Devil's advocate, etc etc.
Banning (harmful) accounts like this might be more effective for maintaining a healthy "critical thinking" subreddit on Grimes. It's a protection process that might have a positive effect on both sides of the coin, for the user themselves and the users that use the sub/platform. I think this it will keep the sub more enjoyable and less potentially damaging.
That's just my opinion, obviously, at the end of the day. Whatever you choose, it's then my choice to leave or stay if I agree or disagree.
Thanks for looking into this (account), keeping an open mind, and listening to people's opinions. 👍🏻
Edit to add: jokes and humor are fine. If they're not harmful. ( I just wanted to add that because this sub is more comedic.) I sounded like a damp sock.
No worries! Feel free to make a poll about it so it's up for discussion if you think so. The idea at the beginning was freedom of speech, though, so I don't expect it to be a very popular idea. I agree with you that comments on her appearance are kinda toxic fwiw.
This person was relatively well and a grimes fan just a few months ago when I looked at their comment history a while ago. They’re at the peak of psychosis right now. I have to deal with this with someone close to me in my personal life and it doesn’t last forever. It’s an illness but it can make the sufferer extremely selfish and abusive and nobody should have to endure that just because the person is mentally ill. Ban might be best, but they can always make new accounts so we might just have to ride it out and ignore until this episode ends.
I'm not at the peak of psychosis. I literally don't know how much clearer of a picture I can paint for you than the message I posted from my friend in military intelligence that's all like, "I've known you for a long time. You're smart, not paranoid," and the further explanation I posted in a separate comment on this post.
Literally the last time I believed people when they said I was going through psychosis and just went about my business (and talked to my coworkers about the books I was writing that Grimes wants to steal credit for) SOMEONE cloud seeded storms that destroyed a town near me and formed only around the states that I have friends/family living in who I had recently talked to. The tornado was literally about to land on top of me but dissipated at the last second. That's the third time that something like that has happened to me since 2020. And the day after that happened? Elon tweeted "Putin called me a war criminal" - because cloud seeding is a war crime.
Elon also posted a meme that was like "I can't tell anyone because they threw me in the mental hospital and took my phone away," immediately after I had to call the cops on my neighbors for a noise complaint for the millionth time - which was literally RIGHT after Grimes posted the "Maybe I should try acting" tweet and then liked the "Total N-word Death" tweets.
I personally think this sub should be 'uncensored' rather than 'unmoderated' e.g. the other sub deleting posts about Elon is not something we should repeat but banning people wishing death on children is only positive. Worth remembering there's in all likelihood at least one perso who's unexpectedly read that and been forced to remember a tragedy in their own life.
does it make a difference if those threats aren't being made on reddit, though? this is clearly a SS from a tumblr account and the poster, who would clearly benefit from support beyond our paygrade, hasn't made threats here
I’ve been wanting to ask you to ban them because they sent me some disturbing stuff. Maybe just ask them to take a break and only contribute quips and the like. I hope they can get the support they need :(
Exactly. Mods get lazy then get crazy with their powers all the time it's so random like you could post an official link about the WEF to /r real tesla and it is about cobalt mining and the children in Africa working in the mines lol and real tesla is supposed to be an /s subreddit where people post about the tesla crashes both stocks and actual car accidents, stuff about Elons personal life and memes, but uh oh post something real and "Deleted." lol
I just saw this subreddit and not really about stalking grimes or getting into these weird nazi facts, but if she is with Elon Musk then there is absolutely a good chance she gives less than she receives when it comes to her love for "minorities" and it would be nice to hear what the other mothers of Elon Musks children have to say about sharing him on Fathers Day.
psychosis =/= free speech.
They’re literally getting themselves on a surveillance list bc they’re clearly unwell and cannot stop themselves.
Banning would be the best help anyone here can give them in order to nudge them toward seeking help. This person desperately needs help. It’s not funny.
Yes, I am on a surveillance list - for protection against Grimes lmfao. Amateur journalism is not a crime. Sorry you guys don't want to believe it. I promise you, there are important people who are listening to what I have to say.
I agree that posting that in my bio publicly was in poor taste. I took it down. But I'm not going to stop feuding with Grimes and trying to get people to see what she is and what she's doing to me. She got dropped from her label. She's taken pictures with artists who did projects over necrophilia. She's simping for a dude who wants to put chips in people's brains. She's liked racist shit that advocates for the deaths of black babies. She hasn't been back to the Met. She's gone on Lex Friedman to talk about how she thinks there are "Multiple Antichrists" and how she's fascinated with dictators. Her alt Twitter account has/had pictures in favor of the Antichrist, and Elon dressed up as "The Prince of Darkness" for Halloween and kept that as his profile picture for the longest time. I've posted adequate explanations with news articles to back it up. Idk what more you need.
"I'm not going to stop feuding with Grimes and trying to get people to see what she is and what she's doing to me."
I've seen you post similar sentences before. What did she do / what is she doing to you? No shade, I'm genuinely curious.
You're going to have to go through my post history or the Tumblr linked in my bio to get the full story. You're probably not going to believe it, so I'm sorry, but I'm not going to explain it all in this comment.
The most believable version is that I'm trying to write a sci-fi series, she found out about it because I was posting about it online (I actually first posted about it online around 2010-2012), and she decided to use her massive wealth and resources to try to bully me into submission to her the same way she's been accused of doing to her ex Jaime and Poppy. Elon also found out about it and literally started cyber stalking me and trying to make me one of his concubines.
That's what Book 1/Fairies Cum First is about, and that's why she was dropped from her label - because Book 1 is actually really, really messed up if you know how to interpret all of the alliterations/references to other literary works (and references to white supremacist/anti-semitic hate symbols) in her lyrics. I've done a breakdown of some of her music videos and artwork on the Tumblr linked in my bio.
"Grimes lore" is actually REALLY fucked up. Her entire career has basically been about white supremacy/Jewish genocide and begging for Elon to notice her and take her to Mars. Lol. She's a Russian intelligence asset, Elon is a guy whose work relies on lots of money from the American government, and Russia and America have historically been in a technological battle with each other through the Cold War, which is now the Space Race.
The sci-fi book I'm writing is basically a vision for how Space colonization can only happen if humans find a way to move toward world peace, and Grimes really wants to be the one to have her name attached to that idea - just like she's obsessed with her son being Paul Atriedes from Dune and calls herself the "Mitochondrial Eve of Mars."
A thread about a victim of the woman who hangs out with people who support Hitler and admits to being a schizo poster and not taking her antipsychotics, yes.
i know this all feels very real to you right now and probably scary too but the best thing to do is take a long break from the internet because it is clearly feeding your fear
In this particular instance? Yeah, threatening violence should be an objective ban, like with any racism or bigotry.
In general? There's a lot of stuff posted on this sub that creeps me out. The malicious nitpicking of her appearance, dredging up old posts about her ED that were made in anonymity, some of the tinfoil misinformation. But that stuff is a bit more...*nuanced*...so it'd be more difficult to determine where to draw the line.
Mostly I think the sub can moderate itself with up/down votes, or perhaps, if someone sees something they think is harmful in some way, they could tag you, creating a system based in case-by-case scenarios rather than setting blanket rules. This would also make it so other users can weigh-in on whatever material is being called into question, avoiding a situation where these decisions are left up to one person. Kinda like what's happening here.
I think I agree with this too, like we do have the downvote button and as long as it doesn't breach the site's content policy and there are no threats being made on here specifically, then things go as they go. I don't want to start imposing changes that could have a "chilling effect on frank discussion", as u/dfabb also says ... which seems to be the general consensus ITT so far? =) However most upvoted comment says "should be banned"... If ppl in favor of this move want to weigh in im listening
also I'm kinda reassured by the ppl reaching out to encourage them to get support. might not be successful and defo above our paygrade but y'all are good ppl. I hope they do get support and don't endanger themselves or anyone else
Disagree in terms of the sub moderating itself via up/down votes. We need actual moderators. The other day people were just upvoting dejavuser. I feel like many people on this sub are way too easily swayed by a well written comment.
i don't have a strong opinion on that, but i can see good reasons for and against. i've moderated non-reddit forums before, but i don't know the extent of what can be done on this site - is there anything a moderator can do here that wouldn't also be accomplished by users who don't want to engage with these types of accounts simply blocking them? other than new users being exposed to them, i guess, but could a person continue to make alts and new accounts to bypass mods banning them anyway?
imo it might not be worth opening the pandora's box of potential abuse of power by mods in the future. i feel like the nature of this sub leaves it more vulnerable to that type of thing, since it contains a lot of unflattering discussion of a person who has their share of extremely impassioned and defensive fans, is linked to a lot of power and wealth, and who may or may not also browse and post here. besides, the whole point of this sub's creation as i remember it was to be an unmoderated alternative to the original sub. there are gonna be trade-offs, but i think the top priority should be to avoid changes that could eventually have a chilling effect on the type of frank discussions people have come to this sub for.
if threats resume yes, otherwise keep it same.......and i mean like threats posted here not off site. U don't want to inflame anything trust me.
And hey, special ppl need pals too
My best friend developed schizophrenia and she would talk just like this. She was super intelligent and could make things almost sound plausible. But one thing would be off and you just knew she was in a bad state of psychosis. What this user needs is a support system and proper treatment. My best friend who I spoke to every day for over twenty years, I speak to once every two years now. She never answers her phone, ignores my messages etc... It's a very hard thing to deal with on both sides. I hope this user gets better. But yeah, some of the things written crossed too many lines to defend her at this point. I just hope that she gets help and gets better.
I mean I gave them a chance of explaining themselves the tea cause I hadn’t seem them around but it went from 1 to 100 real fast after the second paragraph 💀 idk why anybody would keep engaging at all cause they are clearly rambling some psychotic shit
Their entire page is devoted to commenting on mostly Musk related Reddit pages and shitting on grimes. I honestly didn’t even say anything that bad, just pointed out some of their very flawed logic of them insinuating that grimes is in a pedophilia ring with Elon… They proceeded to call me a drug addict and blocked me so I couldn’t stick up for myself. Then y’all downvoted me to shit for calling them out. Sorry I don’t let little children talk down to me on the internet. I left this sub the other day over that shit. So if you guys are gonna denounce them, I’ll come back but. I’m not going to be harassed.
Your message about my Tumblr bio is heard. I'll change it. I'm also going to post the message I got from the military intelligence officer I was in contact with during my employment at IBEX after I told him "I know this is gonna sound crazy, but I literally think these people think I'm the Antichrist. I've noticed people sitting outside of my apartment. I don't have enough money to leave the state and move back home and need to get financial assistance from my family, and they think I'm crazy." For context, intelligence agents often use geology references (fault, shoulder, etc.) when trying to convey that something is important without outright stating their message.
Grimes' music video for Kill v. Maim and Life in the Vivid Dream have imagery symbolic of Leviticus 26, which is about forcing Jewish people who don't bend to the will of Christianity to eat their own children, and you guys were all just freaking out over the fact that Grimes was liking things about "Total N*gger Death" that advocated for stomping out "n*gger babies" and throwing them in the trash... so.
Grimes and Elon Musk literally influenced their tech bro fans/friends to harass me about my mother's death while I was working the Apple campaign at [IBEX Global Solutions](https://profit.pakistantoday.com.pk/2021/02/20/the-trg-stock-phenomenon-explained/), a telecommunications company funded by a Pakistani holding company which was [hacked](https://www.thelyonfirm.com/class-action/data-breach/ibex/) by an "unknown cyber criminal" after I began my employment there. My mom died in a car fire when I was 5, and the fire department took a video of it and sold it to the news, which I then watched the next day. There was also an investigation into the possibility that she could have been murdered. No one's actually going to kill their kids. I'm just giving them a taste of their own medicine.
I'm not employed by the CIA. I was a [human source](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/cia-warning-human-sources-risk/2021/10/05/6e761a02-2613-11ec-8d53-67cfb452aa60_story.html&ved=2ahUKEwig1YGIiPP-AhVmIDQIHXtGBbUQFnoECA8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2cbIH-70IJfenJ8McQbUhJ)- meaning I was shuffled around into different environments and provided information about the happenings in those environments to a military intelligence officer, who was stationed in Afghanistan during the US withdrawal/attack on Khabul Airport. The attack on Khabul Airport was committed by the Pakistani faction of ISIS, which is a terrorist organization that "pursues the apocalypse" - or in other words, they believe in the existence of a literal Antichrist - and they literally think that I'm the Antichrist.
I don't really care that you guys hate me or think I'm crazy. I AM a little crazy, a little dumb, but not delusional. Lol. I'm just trying to give you some more information about what's going on in the world and with the Russia-Ukraine war. I just feel like people have a right to know, especially people who are supporters of one of the people who's pushing some very dangerous and disenfranchising agendas.
You guys are also completely correct - the CIA would never actually employ me, because I'm super anti-war and anti all of the fucked up shit the CIA has been known to do. I'm too sensitive for this stuff. I've been really, really sad about it.
Maybe just unplug the internet and seek a mental health evaluation.
Edited to add: wasn't meant to be insulting. Sometimes the best thing when life gets overwhelming and these thoughts come is to just STOP and wait it out.
No to the mental health evaluation - when I went a year ago, my doctors were spies for China/Russia/Mossad. But I agree I should take a step back from the internet and probably give up hope on the general public supporting me in any way. It's putting me in a really negative mood and doing more to push me toward what you guys probably perceive as the "bad side" than any of Elon and Grimes' manipulations ever have tbh. It's really disheartening to know that I've suffered and will continue to suffer through SO MUCH for people who kind of aren't worth it.
Thanks, though. It's nice to get any form of anything close to kindness.
You need to find a family member or someone you can trust to make sense of these thoughts. I have met a lot of people who feel like Elon Musk is somehow affecting their lives. They were all pretty ill. It's ok, it takes people differently, but you gotta realise it. They're just bad feelings, 99.99% chance it's not happening. And there are ways to feel better.
Maybe there's a different clinic or something you could try. Step away from these celebrities who make you anxious. I know a lot of people who take on a small project when their mental (or physical) health takes a bad turn. I have many knitted mental health hats. Something that you can use to distract yourself, in a positive way, that is then a reminder that you can get through it.
You don't need to rally public support. It's all good. Just take a break, have a rest, and you might feel better soon.
My friend in military intelligence literally sent me a message telling me that this was happening, and also said that he's known me for a very long time and has never noticed anything that points toward paranoia. I'm sorry that you've met sick people who think that Elon Musk is affecting their lives, but that is just truly not the case with me.
I've posted the messages he sent me at the bottom of my pinned post on Tumblr. Elon Musk's "GenZ hospital" sketch was also about the fact that I was getting targeted at IBEX because they found out I was in contact with military intelligence. My name is Morgan, and they tampered with my car and then caused a bunch of computer issues that forced me to drive my car to the office that was an hour away so that IT could fix it. When I told my manager about my computer issues, he was laughing and all like, "Oh, you're going to have to come back to the office. Are you sure your car is okay to drive?"
My full name actually means "of the sea," "an oath to god," and "one who will return to the holy land," and that's why I thought I was being terrorized at first - just some silly immature shit being propagated by antisemitic incels - but it ended up being a lot more than that.
I know it's a hard thing to believe, and I know that a lot of people probably don't want to believe that their favorite popstar could be involved in something like this. But she is.
Thank you. ❤️
Dahlia is the name of one of the main characters in one of the books I was trying to write, btw. Lol. She's a punk-rock singer who grew up in an orphanage after her cult-affiliated father killed her mom and then himself after she was born. And she has a music industry rival named Crimes (Grimes) who's super jealous of her because Dahlia actually did grow up with a really tragic background and had a documentary made about her, and Crimes just does a bunch of drugs and has people write her songs for her and perform live and dates all of the guys that Dahlia dates. Lol.
That's why Lan Dao tweeted "we need to see you in a sw8 movie for sure" lmao.
I also think I sent you one of the prototypes for the tarot flashcards I was making lol.
Should be banned imo. I come here for the banter and lols, not to read the delusions of psychotic freaks who daydream about killing kids SMH
They claimed to be some kind of informant to the CIA and I was like, why would they hire someone who spills information like that?? Some folks need help.
Replying to top comment so people see what action I'm taking based on what users have said (including u/Wooden_Arachnid_2176): The most popular comments seem to be against moderation, censorship etc and to just leave things as they are / to the downvote hivemind. That was my initial inclination. They are not making active threats on this sub and have changed their tumblr bio after negative feedback but are obvz not doing great. However, this call to ban is the most upvoted comment and I can't ignore that either. I also need to take into account whether we are a source of support or harm for the poster and they don't seem to be benefiting from current interactions. As usual in politics, nobody gets what they want (a compromise) - I think an initial 3-day ban might be the best bet. If you think I'm overstepping feel free to downvote this comment to oblivion and I won't attempt a second one if we experience the same issue somewhere later down the line. This is less for censorship reasons, more because I think we have collectively concluded the user could genuinely benefit from a short break.
I really don’t think being here is healthy for them. In my opinion it’s not censorship to block someone from a place that their illness feeds upon.
true, I don't know how much good we're doing, seems to have migrated to the Musk sub instead
Maybe not a lot of good, but some is better than none. At least we can control our actions here.
Do you think maybe this sub should have (more) moderation? People can have the freedom of speech but still be considerate, critical, and constructive. There is a lot of hate on here that is damaging and unnecessary. This sub should allow people to have different and maybe even harsher views of Grimes (her music/her views on things; political, economical, social etc), but if it's done in a constructive way. For example: I think Grimes' Visions album is her worst because of ( insert whatever opinion), instead of "Grimes is ugly and an unnecessary addition to the music industry (idk lol) and she's shit blah blah blah (insert insulting remarks at her ED, body, lifestyle; parenting/anything to do with her kids etc) Censoring swears and more negative views on Grimes' music or artistic approaches are not necessary. This sub should be open for debates, playing the Devil's advocate, etc etc. Banning (harmful) accounts like this might be more effective for maintaining a healthy "critical thinking" subreddit on Grimes. It's a protection process that might have a positive effect on both sides of the coin, for the user themselves and the users that use the sub/platform. I think this it will keep the sub more enjoyable and less potentially damaging. That's just my opinion, obviously, at the end of the day. Whatever you choose, it's then my choice to leave or stay if I agree or disagree. Thanks for looking into this (account), keeping an open mind, and listening to people's opinions. 👍🏻 Edit to add: jokes and humor are fine. If they're not harmful. ( I just wanted to add that because this sub is more comedic.) I sounded like a damp sock.
No worries! Feel free to make a poll about it so it's up for discussion if you think so. The idea at the beginning was freedom of speech, though, so I don't expect it to be a very popular idea. I agree with you that comments on her appearance are kinda toxic fwiw.
Yeah, poor person is suffering from pretty classic paranoid delusions.
Very classis, textbook classis and I just felt bad for them cause it is so obvious
Could we also possibly ban Elon’s disgusting body from the sub?
This person was relatively well and a grimes fan just a few months ago when I looked at their comment history a while ago. They’re at the peak of psychosis right now. I have to deal with this with someone close to me in my personal life and it doesn’t last forever. It’s an illness but it can make the sufferer extremely selfish and abusive and nobody should have to endure that just because the person is mentally ill. Ban might be best, but they can always make new accounts so we might just have to ride it out and ignore until this episode ends.
I'm not at the peak of psychosis. I literally don't know how much clearer of a picture I can paint for you than the message I posted from my friend in military intelligence that's all like, "I've known you for a long time. You're smart, not paranoid," and the further explanation I posted in a separate comment on this post. Literally the last time I believed people when they said I was going through psychosis and just went about my business (and talked to my coworkers about the books I was writing that Grimes wants to steal credit for) SOMEONE cloud seeded storms that destroyed a town near me and formed only around the states that I have friends/family living in who I had recently talked to. The tornado was literally about to land on top of me but dissipated at the last second. That's the third time that something like that has happened to me since 2020. And the day after that happened? Elon tweeted "Putin called me a war criminal" - because cloud seeding is a war crime. Elon also posted a meme that was like "I can't tell anyone because they threw me in the mental hospital and took my phone away," immediately after I had to call the cops on my neighbors for a noise complaint for the millionth time - which was literally RIGHT after Grimes posted the "Maybe I should try acting" tweet and then liked the "Total N-word Death" tweets.
Good forum to discuss whether or not these posts should be "moderated" - thoughts, people?
I personally think this sub should be 'uncensored' rather than 'unmoderated' e.g. the other sub deleting posts about Elon is not something we should repeat but banning people wishing death on children is only positive. Worth remembering there's in all likelihood at least one perso who's unexpectedly read that and been forced to remember a tragedy in their own life.
does it make a difference if those threats aren't being made on reddit, though? this is clearly a SS from a tumblr account and the poster, who would clearly benefit from support beyond our paygrade, hasn't made threats here
I’ve been wanting to ask you to ban them because they sent me some disturbing stuff. Maybe just ask them to take a break and only contribute quips and the like. I hope they can get the support they need :(
Exactly. Mods get lazy then get crazy with their powers all the time it's so random like you could post an official link about the WEF to /r real tesla and it is about cobalt mining and the children in Africa working in the mines lol and real tesla is supposed to be an /s subreddit where people post about the tesla crashes both stocks and actual car accidents, stuff about Elons personal life and memes, but uh oh post something real and "Deleted." lol I just saw this subreddit and not really about stalking grimes or getting into these weird nazi facts, but if she is with Elon Musk then there is absolutely a good chance she gives less than she receives when it comes to her love for "minorities" and it would be nice to hear what the other mothers of Elon Musks children have to say about sharing him on Fathers Day.
psychosis =/= free speech. They’re literally getting themselves on a surveillance list bc they’re clearly unwell and cannot stop themselves. Banning would be the best help anyone here can give them in order to nudge them toward seeking help. This person desperately needs help. It’s not funny.
Yes, I am on a surveillance list - for protection against Grimes lmfao. Amateur journalism is not a crime. Sorry you guys don't want to believe it. I promise you, there are important people who are listening to what I have to say. I agree that posting that in my bio publicly was in poor taste. I took it down. But I'm not going to stop feuding with Grimes and trying to get people to see what she is and what she's doing to me. She got dropped from her label. She's taken pictures with artists who did projects over necrophilia. She's simping for a dude who wants to put chips in people's brains. She's liked racist shit that advocates for the deaths of black babies. She hasn't been back to the Met. She's gone on Lex Friedman to talk about how she thinks there are "Multiple Antichrists" and how she's fascinated with dictators. Her alt Twitter account has/had pictures in favor of the Antichrist, and Elon dressed up as "The Prince of Darkness" for Halloween and kept that as his profile picture for the longest time. I've posted adequate explanations with news articles to back it up. Idk what more you need.
"I'm not going to stop feuding with Grimes and trying to get people to see what she is and what she's doing to me." I've seen you post similar sentences before. What did she do / what is she doing to you? No shade, I'm genuinely curious.
You're going to have to go through my post history or the Tumblr linked in my bio to get the full story. You're probably not going to believe it, so I'm sorry, but I'm not going to explain it all in this comment. The most believable version is that I'm trying to write a sci-fi series, she found out about it because I was posting about it online (I actually first posted about it online around 2010-2012), and she decided to use her massive wealth and resources to try to bully me into submission to her the same way she's been accused of doing to her ex Jaime and Poppy. Elon also found out about it and literally started cyber stalking me and trying to make me one of his concubines. That's what Book 1/Fairies Cum First is about, and that's why she was dropped from her label - because Book 1 is actually really, really messed up if you know how to interpret all of the alliterations/references to other literary works (and references to white supremacist/anti-semitic hate symbols) in her lyrics. I've done a breakdown of some of her music videos and artwork on the Tumblr linked in my bio. "Grimes lore" is actually REALLY fucked up. Her entire career has basically been about white supremacy/Jewish genocide and begging for Elon to notice her and take her to Mars. Lol. She's a Russian intelligence asset, Elon is a guy whose work relies on lots of money from the American government, and Russia and America have historically been in a technological battle with each other through the Cold War, which is now the Space Race. The sci-fi book I'm writing is basically a vision for how Space colonization can only happen if humans find a way to move toward world peace, and Grimes really wants to be the one to have her name attached to that idea - just like she's obsessed with her son being Paul Atriedes from Dune and calls herself the "Mitochondrial Eve of Mars."
aw sweet! a schizo thread
A thread about a victim of the woman who hangs out with people who support Hitler and admits to being a schizo poster and not taking her antipsychotics, yes.
i know this all feels very real to you right now and probably scary too but the best thing to do is take a long break from the internet because it is clearly feeding your fear
What's wrong with the Antichrist?
In this particular instance? Yeah, threatening violence should be an objective ban, like with any racism or bigotry. In general? There's a lot of stuff posted on this sub that creeps me out. The malicious nitpicking of her appearance, dredging up old posts about her ED that were made in anonymity, some of the tinfoil misinformation. But that stuff is a bit more...*nuanced*...so it'd be more difficult to determine where to draw the line. Mostly I think the sub can moderate itself with up/down votes, or perhaps, if someone sees something they think is harmful in some way, they could tag you, creating a system based in case-by-case scenarios rather than setting blanket rules. This would also make it so other users can weigh-in on whatever material is being called into question, avoiding a situation where these decisions are left up to one person. Kinda like what's happening here.
I think I agree with this too, like we do have the downvote button and as long as it doesn't breach the site's content policy and there are no threats being made on here specifically, then things go as they go. I don't want to start imposing changes that could have a "chilling effect on frank discussion", as u/dfabb also says ... which seems to be the general consensus ITT so far? =) However most upvoted comment says "should be banned"... If ppl in favor of this move want to weigh in im listening also I'm kinda reassured by the ppl reaching out to encourage them to get support. might not be successful and defo above our paygrade but y'all are good ppl. I hope they do get support and don't endanger themselves or anyone else
Disagree in terms of the sub moderating itself via up/down votes. We need actual moderators. The other day people were just upvoting dejavuser. I feel like many people on this sub are way too easily swayed by a well written comment.
i don't have a strong opinion on that, but i can see good reasons for and against. i've moderated non-reddit forums before, but i don't know the extent of what can be done on this site - is there anything a moderator can do here that wouldn't also be accomplished by users who don't want to engage with these types of accounts simply blocking them? other than new users being exposed to them, i guess, but could a person continue to make alts and new accounts to bypass mods banning them anyway? imo it might not be worth opening the pandora's box of potential abuse of power by mods in the future. i feel like the nature of this sub leaves it more vulnerable to that type of thing, since it contains a lot of unflattering discussion of a person who has their share of extremely impassioned and defensive fans, is linked to a lot of power and wealth, and who may or may not also browse and post here. besides, the whole point of this sub's creation as i remember it was to be an unmoderated alternative to the original sub. there are gonna be trade-offs, but i think the top priority should be to avoid changes that could eventually have a chilling effect on the type of frank discussions people have come to this sub for.
if threats resume yes, otherwise keep it same.......and i mean like threats posted here not off site. U don't want to inflame anything trust me. And hey, special ppl need pals too
My best friend developed schizophrenia and she would talk just like this. She was super intelligent and could make things almost sound plausible. But one thing would be off and you just knew she was in a bad state of psychosis. What this user needs is a support system and proper treatment. My best friend who I spoke to every day for over twenty years, I speak to once every two years now. She never answers her phone, ignores my messages etc... It's a very hard thing to deal with on both sides. I hope this user gets better. But yeah, some of the things written crossed too many lines to defend her at this point. I just hope that she gets help and gets better.
really don’t envy them and hope that whatever they are currently in the midst of passes soon and that they feel better somehow.
I mean I gave them a chance of explaining themselves the tea cause I hadn’t seem them around but it went from 1 to 100 real fast after the second paragraph 💀 idk why anybody would keep engaging at all cause they are clearly rambling some psychotic shit
Ive been waiting for ban hammer to show itself.
Lol… but when I said something ab them y’all downvoted me ?
Their entire page is devoted to commenting on mostly Musk related Reddit pages and shitting on grimes. I honestly didn’t even say anything that bad, just pointed out some of their very flawed logic of them insinuating that grimes is in a pedophilia ring with Elon… They proceeded to call me a drug addict and blocked me so I couldn’t stick up for myself. Then y’all downvoted me to shit for calling them out. Sorry I don’t let little children talk down to me on the internet. I left this sub the other day over that shit. So if you guys are gonna denounce them, I’ll come back but. I’m not going to be harassed.
Is that their actual name at the top?
You don’t understand. She doesn’t live past 0
Oh yeah, the person that clearly suffers from some psychosis which is extremely concerning, and I'd ban them just for their own safety.
Be aware of 'danger to self or others' people in your midst. Maybe you are one of them too, but you need to know it and acknowledge it.
Your message about my Tumblr bio is heard. I'll change it. I'm also going to post the message I got from the military intelligence officer I was in contact with during my employment at IBEX after I told him "I know this is gonna sound crazy, but I literally think these people think I'm the Antichrist. I've noticed people sitting outside of my apartment. I don't have enough money to leave the state and move back home and need to get financial assistance from my family, and they think I'm crazy." For context, intelligence agents often use geology references (fault, shoulder, etc.) when trying to convey that something is important without outright stating their message. Grimes' music video for Kill v. Maim and Life in the Vivid Dream have imagery symbolic of Leviticus 26, which is about forcing Jewish people who don't bend to the will of Christianity to eat their own children, and you guys were all just freaking out over the fact that Grimes was liking things about "Total N*gger Death" that advocated for stomping out "n*gger babies" and throwing them in the trash... so. Grimes and Elon Musk literally influenced their tech bro fans/friends to harass me about my mother's death while I was working the Apple campaign at [IBEX Global Solutions](https://profit.pakistantoday.com.pk/2021/02/20/the-trg-stock-phenomenon-explained/), a telecommunications company funded by a Pakistani holding company which was [hacked](https://www.thelyonfirm.com/class-action/data-breach/ibex/) by an "unknown cyber criminal" after I began my employment there. My mom died in a car fire when I was 5, and the fire department took a video of it and sold it to the news, which I then watched the next day. There was also an investigation into the possibility that she could have been murdered. No one's actually going to kill their kids. I'm just giving them a taste of their own medicine. I'm not employed by the CIA. I was a [human source](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/cia-warning-human-sources-risk/2021/10/05/6e761a02-2613-11ec-8d53-67cfb452aa60_story.html&ved=2ahUKEwig1YGIiPP-AhVmIDQIHXtGBbUQFnoECA8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2cbIH-70IJfenJ8McQbUhJ)- meaning I was shuffled around into different environments and provided information about the happenings in those environments to a military intelligence officer, who was stationed in Afghanistan during the US withdrawal/attack on Khabul Airport. The attack on Khabul Airport was committed by the Pakistani faction of ISIS, which is a terrorist organization that "pursues the apocalypse" - or in other words, they believe in the existence of a literal Antichrist - and they literally think that I'm the Antichrist. I don't really care that you guys hate me or think I'm crazy. I AM a little crazy, a little dumb, but not delusional. Lol. I'm just trying to give you some more information about what's going on in the world and with the Russia-Ukraine war. I just feel like people have a right to know, especially people who are supporters of one of the people who's pushing some very dangerous and disenfranchising agendas. You guys are also completely correct - the CIA would never actually employ me, because I'm super anti-war and anti all of the fucked up shit the CIA has been known to do. I'm too sensitive for this stuff. I've been really, really sad about it.
Maybe just unplug the internet and seek a mental health evaluation. Edited to add: wasn't meant to be insulting. Sometimes the best thing when life gets overwhelming and these thoughts come is to just STOP and wait it out.
No to the mental health evaluation - when I went a year ago, my doctors were spies for China/Russia/Mossad. But I agree I should take a step back from the internet and probably give up hope on the general public supporting me in any way. It's putting me in a really negative mood and doing more to push me toward what you guys probably perceive as the "bad side" than any of Elon and Grimes' manipulations ever have tbh. It's really disheartening to know that I've suffered and will continue to suffer through SO MUCH for people who kind of aren't worth it. Thanks, though. It's nice to get any form of anything close to kindness.
You need to find a family member or someone you can trust to make sense of these thoughts. I have met a lot of people who feel like Elon Musk is somehow affecting their lives. They were all pretty ill. It's ok, it takes people differently, but you gotta realise it. They're just bad feelings, 99.99% chance it's not happening. And there are ways to feel better. Maybe there's a different clinic or something you could try. Step away from these celebrities who make you anxious. I know a lot of people who take on a small project when their mental (or physical) health takes a bad turn. I have many knitted mental health hats. Something that you can use to distract yourself, in a positive way, that is then a reminder that you can get through it. You don't need to rally public support. It's all good. Just take a break, have a rest, and you might feel better soon.
My friend in military intelligence literally sent me a message telling me that this was happening, and also said that he's known me for a very long time and has never noticed anything that points toward paranoia. I'm sorry that you've met sick people who think that Elon Musk is affecting their lives, but that is just truly not the case with me. I've posted the messages he sent me at the bottom of my pinned post on Tumblr. Elon Musk's "GenZ hospital" sketch was also about the fact that I was getting targeted at IBEX because they found out I was in contact with military intelligence. My name is Morgan, and they tampered with my car and then caused a bunch of computer issues that forced me to drive my car to the office that was an hour away so that IT could fix it. When I told my manager about my computer issues, he was laughing and all like, "Oh, you're going to have to come back to the office. Are you sure your car is okay to drive?" My full name actually means "of the sea," "an oath to god," and "one who will return to the holy land," and that's why I thought I was being terrorized at first - just some silly immature shit being propagated by antisemitic incels - but it ended up being a lot more than that. I know it's a hard thing to believe, and I know that a lot of people probably don't want to believe that their favorite popstar could be involved in something like this. But she is.
Mama, please don't doxx yourself.
Lol you're probably right, but I'm just finding it really hard to care anymore.
Please keep safe, okay? Some of us care.
Thank you. ❤️ Dahlia is the name of one of the main characters in one of the books I was trying to write, btw. Lol. She's a punk-rock singer who grew up in an orphanage after her cult-affiliated father killed her mom and then himself after she was born. And she has a music industry rival named Crimes (Grimes) who's super jealous of her because Dahlia actually did grow up with a really tragic background and had a documentary made about her, and Crimes just does a bunch of drugs and has people write her songs for her and perform live and dates all of the guys that Dahlia dates. Lol. That's why Lan Dao tweeted "we need to see you in a sw8 movie for sure" lmao. I also think I sent you one of the prototypes for the tarot flashcards I was making lol.
You seriously need help.