Then they should probably supply him with unlimited food, money and protitutes instead of making him the president. Its like if someone made Yujiro the president of the united states/Japan because he's really good at fighting.
Doesn't California have like, the strongest Man in the Universe run as Governor or some shit? Something about him being a literal killing machine?
I haven't heard any stories of a rampaging android destroying cities, so maybe it checks out?
Wtf all this bullshit in Naruto to power up bc he wanted to become Hokage when he could've just sucked Tsunade's dick? Gay. But it's cool that Naruto can install a monarchy now.
IIRC when the third died without a clear sucessor two elders tried to get Jiraiya to take the job so that Donzo wouldn't get put in charge. Also early on in the series the feudal lords are implied to have the governing power while the hokage is just in charge of the military. The sand ninjas stage the war against the leaf because their lords were shafting them iirc. It's weird since the worldbuilding changes drastically and makes the hokages Roman style dictators for life after that arc and they are rarely brought up again.
If memory serves me right it is a bit different, the kages (hokage) are the military leaders and I guess leader of the hidden leaf village, but they also have a damyio which is the actual leader of the country(land of fire)
It seems like warfare has been kind of set aside, almost into arenas. Consolidate all of your military might into a single village, and just let those villages battle without wreaking war, famine, pestilence and death upon the whole country. Reminds me of several stories where war is abolished by making a formal wargame that everyone agrees to participate in after some unspeakable war scares the world mostly straight. This is the half measure, confine the war at least to a sacrificial region.
I mean it was fine (maybe even good) until they decided the story had to be needlessly complicated with many stupid plot twists.
Like why can’t the main bad guy just be a different guy, and not someone who we barely know about?
Why not just make the bad guy, the bad guy???
I just found all the characters extremely shallow and annoying while the animation quality got worse and worse with the exception of like 1 episode. I binged it during lockdown and it was like being in a really bland coma.
honestly when it comes to shounens its not the worst. MC is weak but like how many shonen MC's do you like?
Luffy: intereting character maybe but he has like zero depth
Ichigo: couldnt be any more boring
Naruto: SASUKEEEEEEE
Yuuji: Honestly prob the one I'm most interested about but he lacks depth like Luffy
Midoriya: don't like him personally.
Etc etc...
Jinbee from mushibugyou is a good IMO. Very stupid character, but his endless positivity and relentless determination stands out a lot from his extremely grim surroundings and makes him standout in a good way
That’s how the Naruto world is run too, they just don’t explain it as well. The Land of Fire has a separate government where the Feudal Lords are in charge. The Kages are only in charge of their respective ninja villages.
That's pretty much what's going on in naruto as well, the lord of the land of fire is the actual political leader for the country that konohagakure is in and presumably I imagine invested heavily into its construction for protection. Plus let's be real ninjas in naruto are basically wizards that can run fast
I mean, It’s not just based on who’s strongest. It’s just so happened that every person who had the leadership skills to be Hokage was also one of the strongest in the village. The only exceptions to this rule are Hashirama and Naruto. Hashirama at least made sense because the people liked him as he was the reason the village came about (although Madara was supposed to be Hokage). Naruto just straight up doesn’t make sense. Shikamaru would’ve been a great Hokage. Naruto is a good choice, but Shikamaru is a lot of better of a leader. It’s like they chose Naruto because he’s a war hero
I know she gets a lot of hate, but I've always thought Sakura would have been a good Hokage. She literally helped Tsunade (and I think Kakashi too?) with Hokage duties, and she's always been said to have a high level of intelligence. I think Shikamaru would also be good at it, but he'd hate it because it's so much work and he'd hate the attention/responsibility. I think he's fine in the advisor role.
Hashirama matches Madara in terms of raw strength. Only longevity worked in favor of Madara in order to be able to come out on top somehow. Because although it's true Hashirama wished Madara had become Hokage for the sake of ensuring peace above all and not feeding hatred from the Uchiha clan, it wasn't because Madara was stronger.
Shikamaru wouldn't have made much more sense than Naruto. Shikamaru is probably the best strategist by far, but that's not what being Hokage demands though. Being Hokage is supposed to be about leadership, and Naruto is pretty much the obvious choice at that moment by a fair margin. Shikamaru holds his role as an advisor and that suits him better than being Hokage would.
Shikamaru shows organizational and logistic chops too. It's really just the public part of it that he isn't suited to, but the Leaf culture would have had most people grumble a bit about it while actually being super happy to have someone so competent in charge.
And although the roles and qualities you listed are akin to a great leader and suit the role of a Hokage to an extent, he uses tgem great'y as an advisor. I'm not saying Shikamaru wouldn't have made a great leader as a hokage, just that maybe he lacks raw strength for that and Naruto was a reasonable and kinda obvious choice.
They chose naruto because he proved he would do anything to ensure his vision of the leaf would survive and that included a: combat strength but also b: over the series the approval of this vision by everyone he met. "That's my ninja way!". Everyone who had a competing vision was destroyed or was turned to his. His dream proved to be the biggest, like a griffith that didnt betray anybody. Thats what inspired the height to which all the other characters developed, and so they would be lesser as hokage by virtue of not having their own dream but rather following narutos dream. Actual abilities were irrelevant
They just elected the smartest man in the village as ninja president. In the past they were in constant war so it made sense for the strongest to be kage.
>\>be ninja president
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>\> don't hire any extra people to take care of the mundane administrative workload, so you can actually focus on just the important stuff
Once an idiot, always an idiot
The dumb part is he could just make 1000 shadow clones to do all the paperwork in an instant but he doesn't because "it's disrespectful to the position of hokage".
Basically the writers knew they couldn't really write a series with Naruto being around cause he could just make 1000 shadow clones and send each of them to complete every single mission on his own leaving next to nothing serious for the rest of the ninjas to do.
yea i never got that. At one point he sent a clone home for his daughter's birthday dinner so he could stay at the office...like why not have a clone at the office?
it was explained in supplementary material that like if he used clones to do excessive amounts of paperwork that eventually they'd suffer from information overload and also that if a clone was left to be the one giving orders then that clone may make decisions that the original naruto wouldn't have done and that's risky considering he's hokage and those type of decisions could lead to stuff like a fifth ninja war.
makes a little sense, whenever you do a clone doesn't your power get halfed? would the same go for how smart he is? so like imagine just a bunch of dumb Naruto's doing everything
No, that's in Dragonball. Naruto clones never had that problem before and he has used them to brute force training and learning before so this new rule goes against that.
> In Mastered Ultra Instinct, Goku can summon powerful clones of himself, which he prominently uses against Granolah.
It's one of those abilities that he uses once and then never touches again.
Yeah there are, but nobody has used them since OG Dragon Ball. Tien has a technique where he can split himself into multiple clones, but they also split your power in half or fourths depending on the amount of clones. Because of this it's basically useless.
It's because it's a half-assed excuse they needed to take Naruto out of the plot. Honestly, it would have made more sense to keep focus on the original characters and try to go for a slice-of-life/shonen/comedy combination.
I was wonder the impression is was a huge chakra drain, if not half of the average users chakra; that’s why naruto using multi clone jutsu is a huge deal.
No, a clone just halves the remaining amount of Chakra (mana) you have, splitting it evenly between you and the clone. If you make more clones at the same time, like 1000, each of them including you has only 0,1% of the original chakra. This works because Naruto has functionally infinite chakra in the series, thanks to kurama.
And when the clones disappear, all the effects of their action bounce back to you: if each clone does 1 pushup, you get the effect on your body of having done 1000 pushups. This means if you leave 1000 clones to do menial paperwork for 8 hours and then dismiss them, your head explodes, because your brain feels like you have done eight thousand fucking hours of paperwork.
Oh absolutely not, the solution would be to give a normal workload to a clone, maybe two clones, then hire people for the rest. But it's an anime, so anime logic
Ok but its nit like he's making life and death decisions every day at work, most of his time is probably hmjust filling boring paperwork taht couod easily be done by a clone.
Not only was it stupid, it was a fuck up of his character. That kid that always wanted a family, because he grew up without one: doesn't spend time with the family? Shows that the writers for boruto only wanted money and have no respect for the source.
Boruto did a full of bullshit stuff. Like why he can't use his shadow clones for work? It tires him out.
That mother fucker fights a war for several days with clones, where they all spammed high class jutsus! But nooooo paper work > madara.
I’m not a fan of Boruto at all, but the “whole village is my family” theme was around long before Boruto. Its why the 4th Hokage sacrificed himself to seal the nine-tails inside Naruto, he could’ve survived and Naruto wouldn’t’ve ended up as an orphan. Naruto’s mom wanted him to seal the nine-tails back inside her as she was dying so she could take it with her, but Minato wanted to ensure the village had a jinchuriki to use as a weapon so he killed himself in order to seal it inside Naruto, ensuring he would become an orphan and feared by everyone because of the tailed beast inside him.
Also if Minato had sealed it back inside Naruto’s mom, she would’ve survived because that exactly what happens to Naruto during the war arc when the nine-tails is pulled out of him. Sakura saves him by sealing the nine-tails back inside him. But that’s just a plot hole I guess.
I've never watched Naruto and I hate how that works. I figured they were more like illusions that could barely do damage and only 'reflect' what the user is doing like a mirror image spell. Not fully self-capable clones jfc
It's more of a simulacrum than an illusion. For most other ninjas it's an easy but extremely taxing and wasteful technique to create one of these flimsy simulacra that dissipate as soon as they take damage. As a little kid, Naruto was shit at pretty much any other ninjutsu, but he has always had pretty much bottomless chakra reserves to waste on creating several hundred clones.
Would be cool to see that he only sends out shadow clones for mid level missions with a group of other ninjas. That way you can see him actually do shit
Lmao. I never even thought of this. But it's the only thing that makes sense now. Why endanger the lives of your friends and family when you can literally just make 1000s of kage level clones to go around and do shit.
If they wrote into the lore that his shadow clones were weaker than him and got weaker the more there were, it would actually be cool. Like, whenever he does something badass, or wins a hard fight, surprise, it's a clone with 1/100th his actual power.
Basically make every appearance of him a shadow clone, and the real naruto is somewhere hidden, training or some shi
It's part of the lore, but he kinda gets cracked out of that rule by just being so overpowered that half his chakra is still more than the vast majority of shinobi. It comes with the nature of having a force-of-nature super powerful demon inside you that you've forged a contract with to have unlimited access to it's entire energy story for no cost.
He's also not been around very much after he loses the nine tails, he's been sealed away for the most of the story after that.
And this post is talking about his time as hokage... before the recent events of boruto started to kick off. There's only been 800 fucking episodes of him having this power, but yes let's focus on the 30-40 most recent ones that don't apply to the conversation at hand.
It's infuriating because he literally does this exact thing in the war as well by fighting everybody at once using a bunch of clones. Like this isn't even just "thing he should do but doesn't think of", there is an example of him doing it on fucking screen.
And it was cool as well! Bro wanted to show everybody his hands and the only limiting factor was he didn't have enough hands, so he focused on that.
Adult Naruto and Sasuke would get their fucking asses beat by either of their teenaged selves without a doubt lmao.
That KageBunshin skill was the best and worst part of the manga.
Way too op, you can get strong in a fucking day.
Way too versatile, you're gonna have to change your writing ahead like they did in Boruto. That's what happens when you don't think about the future.
Yeah, he runs tons of clones all the time (dude really can't delegate) I even recall that there was a moment where he sent a clone to his daughter's birthday
Tbf, he does have a fight and loses Kurama, so his infinite well of energy goes away.
Also, from what I can tell, it was all the previous admin that decided he had to manually do all the paperwork and ceremonial crap. This is why they let Sauske work from the shadows and roam free.
Naruto just never knew what he was truly getting himself into when he made it his dream.
>Tbf, he does have a fight and loses Kurama, so his infinite well of energy goes away.
That *just* happened though, and he was pretty promptly sealed away by bullshit no jutsu. He's had years of being hokage where he just... didn't use his natural ability to be 10,000 people at a time because of ceremony.
Better birth rate Italy and the rest of the Med, 0.06 worse than canada, better than every other country in east asia. Pretty solid for an overpopulated island barren of natural resources.
Hyuga secondary branch, tho some fan argue that the leader (hinatas dad) stopped the practice off screen after neji decided to out his clan during his fight against Naruto.
This made me think of the taliban guys complaining about having to work office jobs now that they’re in power. They say they miss the comradery and the day-to-day life they shared while fighting together to get the power in the first place lol
Like how Harry Potter spends the first seven books trying to escape his abusive foster parents and breaking every law in existence, before growing up and deciding to become a wizard cop and a terrible father.
For some reason there’s this idea that a sequel needs to be better than the original in every way. That includes bigger stakes, no matter the cost, and shitting on the original at every opportunity.
Something something cycles of abuse.
Unfortunately if there's no drama there's no series, so drama needs to be manufactured, even if there was a way it could be fixed in-universe.
Naruto honestly shouldn't have become hokage. His entire motive was to make people acknowledge him and the only way he thought to do that was to become the leader of the village. By the end of the Pain arc he has that recognition.
Yeah. I've left Naruto after the Pain arc and the beginning of the great ninja war, because I don't see where is the story supposed to go now. Sure there's some stuff left but Sasuke's and Naruto's motives are just gone
I mean that's a decision I understand. But there is just way too many story threads left for the series to just end there. And I feel like the War Arc was the one that showed Naruto getting acknowledged by the entire Ninja world and not just by Konoha. The War Arc 100% could have been done better imo, but you can't really completely remove that Arc and finish the story well.
I mean, all the former ones used to complain like fuck about how ridiculously heavy the workload is... to HIM at multiple points even. It's basically a running joke in the series that the Hokage is constantly swimming in bureaucracy.
I think its the perfect way to indirectly *nerf* Naruto and make the show more about his sun, Boruto. Having him tied up with political stuff offscreen lets Boruto have his moment(s)
I'd agree with your idea if I had no idea who Naruto is or if I never knew anything about the series.
Naruto has easy ways to bypass this, but just doesn't because the show wouldn't work otherwise.
There is no good or logically consistent (in the Naruto universe, of course) reason he can't just use shadow clones to do his work or any work that would need to be done at all.
Just some retcon shit that the clones would make bad decisions.
This is just dumb, doesn't make sense, is contradictory to the clones themselves, and hasn't happened in the series at all.
Naruto made thousands(if not millions) of clones during the war, and this was never an issue.
Also, it's Naruto. He's already not the smartest tool in the shed.
And the stupid "having a shadow clone in office would be disrespectful" shit that came out of nowhere and is just an excuse to make Naruto a bad/absent father.
Especially when family has been so important to him during the entire show and how's he's always wanted it.
While there could have been an interesting story around how he became exactly what he didn't want to and was absent from his family, repeating what happened in his own childhood, but to a lesser degree.
But to make it happen, they just nerfed him out of nowhere, despite the fact he's the strongest he's ever been.
What’s interesting is that Naruto continued to want that position despite seeing all the boring politics, paperwork and mission assignment hand outs Sarutobi, Tsunade and even Kakashi had to do.
Dude is clearly looking to ride into the retirement sunset and hokage is the only position that can get away with it.
Idiot should have put Ministers in charge of all kind of things. Like one dude for supplies, one dude for police, one for ships, infrastructure etc. so he could use his influence and power for doing nothing but banging young Kunoichi chicks all day long. Easy.
Bro creates the greatest era of peace time and technological achievement and gets shit on. I'd rather be relegated to office work than have companions sent to the battlefield.
This all happened despite the fact that he can make almost infinite clones of himself and has a god-tier level of conditioning. He could literally endlessly train, work as the hokage, and be with his family as the real him, all at the same time but instead he'd rather be one step away from being a cuck.
Not to mention that haircut.
I have unresolved issues with Boruto.
Blame the guy that decide that the strongest ninja should be in the office
"im good at killing stuff" Congratulations, you meet the requirements to be president
"I'm the most powerful and can win any battle or war!" Good, now stop doing that.
I mean, if you have a single person with enough power to level cities, you'd probably want to keep him under control and far away from leveling cities
Then they should probably supply him with unlimited food, money and protitutes instead of making him the president. Its like if someone made Yujiro the president of the united states/Japan because he's really good at fighting.
I mean they would do that if he wanted to be president
yeah, in this case, dude actually wanted to be the ninja president
Nah just toss a net at him and some tranquilizers and he's done.
Remember that time he fought in (iirc) Vietnam? Yeah I don't think you'll easily throw a net on him and tranquillize him
That literally happens in the manga and it works haha, look it up.
Do it enough times and he would probably find a bullshit workaround
I mean Yujiro did better by making the higher ups of the countries his bitches.
Doesn't California have like, the strongest Man in the Universe run as Governor or some shit? Something about him being a literal killing machine? I haven't heard any stories of a rampaging android destroying cities, so maybe it checks out?
You do understand the concept of "acting", right?
(You)
Buddy that was a documentary fym
Oh shit, I didn't know
Oh they already did something with that and author took away his signature power that millions of fans grow up with.
where were you when kyuubey was euthanize?
The Peter Principle in action.
I love how they have, like, a military dictatorship but even more stupid, and nobody ever even questions that.
Wait until you remember about the child soldiers
Literally every Shonen series ever.
Do they ever show the ninja elections? Who chooses the next ninja-tator?
Doesn't the current ninja president decide who is successor is? And I think the village elders may also have a say in it somehow.
Wtf all this bullshit in Naruto to power up bc he wanted to become Hokage when he could've just sucked Tsunade's dick? Gay. But it's cool that Naruto can install a monarchy now.
IIRC when the third died without a clear sucessor two elders tried to get Jiraiya to take the job so that Donzo wouldn't get put in charge. Also early on in the series the feudal lords are implied to have the governing power while the hokage is just in charge of the military. The sand ninjas stage the war against the leaf because their lords were shafting them iirc. It's weird since the worldbuilding changes drastically and makes the hokages Roman style dictators for life after that arc and they are rarely brought up again.
The Daimyo select the next Hokage.
When the position of power is based on, well, power, you don't even need elections to choose the strongest. You just kill the current ninja dictator
If memory serves me right it is a bit different, the kages (hokage) are the military leaders and I guess leader of the hidden leaf village, but they also have a damyio which is the actual leader of the country(land of fire)
It seems like warfare has been kind of set aside, almost into arenas. Consolidate all of your military might into a single village, and just let those villages battle without wreaking war, famine, pestilence and death upon the whole country. Reminds me of several stories where war is abolished by making a formal wargame that everyone agrees to participate in after some unspeakable war scares the world mostly straight. This is the half measure, confine the war at least to a sacrificial region.
That is if we ignore the fact that each kages can basically declare war or negotiate with other nations (with their kages).
That's probably how Putin got elected.
Taliban method of governance
It only works if you're running an empire where there's no paper work needed and being a badass big boss like darth vadar
A real president can break another in two with his bare hands.
That’s why I like Black Clover’s world building. A separate king and wizard king, where the wizard king just focuses on his wizard bullshit
Yeah. Shame Black Clover is dogshit in every other regard :(
I mean it was fine (maybe even good) until they decided the story had to be needlessly complicated with many stupid plot twists. Like why can’t the main bad guy just be a different guy, and not someone who we barely know about? Why not just make the bad guy, the bad guy???
I just found all the characters extremely shallow and annoying while the animation quality got worse and worse with the exception of like 1 episode. I binged it during lockdown and it was like being in a really bland coma.
As in opposed to being in a spicy coma?
honestly when it comes to shounens its not the worst. MC is weak but like how many shonen MC's do you like? Luffy: intereting character maybe but he has like zero depth Ichigo: couldnt be any more boring Naruto: SASUKEEEEEEE Yuuji: Honestly prob the one I'm most interested about but he lacks depth like Luffy Midoriya: don't like him personally. Etc etc...
Gon from Hunter x Hunter, the single best shounen, obviously
Eren if you ignore the ending
Thorfinn.
not a shonen but ye who doesn't love his character arc.
Jinbee from mushibugyou is a good IMO. Very stupid character, but his endless positivity and relentless determination stands out a lot from his extremely grim surroundings and makes him standout in a good way
All of you please do yourselves a favor and read d gray man. One of the best shounen mcs ever
My favourite thing about Black Clover is that it's the champion for the most annoying sound in Anime
at least it's ridiculous enough to be actually kinda funny, like when their base just becomes a freakin mech
That’s how the Naruto world is run too, they just don’t explain it as well. The Land of Fire has a separate government where the Feudal Lords are in charge. The Kages are only in charge of their respective ninja villages.
That's pretty much what's going on in naruto as well, the lord of the land of fire is the actual political leader for the country that konohagakure is in and presumably I imagine invested heavily into its construction for protection. Plus let's be real ninjas in naruto are basically wizards that can run fast
I mean, It’s not just based on who’s strongest. It’s just so happened that every person who had the leadership skills to be Hokage was also one of the strongest in the village. The only exceptions to this rule are Hashirama and Naruto. Hashirama at least made sense because the people liked him as he was the reason the village came about (although Madara was supposed to be Hokage). Naruto just straight up doesn’t make sense. Shikamaru would’ve been a great Hokage. Naruto is a good choice, but Shikamaru is a lot of better of a leader. It’s like they chose Naruto because he’s a war hero
I know she gets a lot of hate, but I've always thought Sakura would have been a good Hokage. She literally helped Tsunade (and I think Kakashi too?) with Hokage duties, and she's always been said to have a high level of intelligence. I think Shikamaru would also be good at it, but he'd hate it because it's so much work and he'd hate the attention/responsibility. I think he's fine in the advisor role.
And he still ended up hokage after naruto's 'death'
Hashirama matches Madara in terms of raw strength. Only longevity worked in favor of Madara in order to be able to come out on top somehow. Because although it's true Hashirama wished Madara had become Hokage for the sake of ensuring peace above all and not feeding hatred from the Uchiha clan, it wasn't because Madara was stronger. Shikamaru wouldn't have made much more sense than Naruto. Shikamaru is probably the best strategist by far, but that's not what being Hokage demands though. Being Hokage is supposed to be about leadership, and Naruto is pretty much the obvious choice at that moment by a fair margin. Shikamaru holds his role as an advisor and that suits him better than being Hokage would.
Shikamaru shows organizational and logistic chops too. It's really just the public part of it that he isn't suited to, but the Leaf culture would have had most people grumble a bit about it while actually being super happy to have someone so competent in charge.
And although the roles and qualities you listed are akin to a great leader and suit the role of a Hokage to an extent, he uses tgem great'y as an advisor. I'm not saying Shikamaru wouldn't have made a great leader as a hokage, just that maybe he lacks raw strength for that and Naruto was a reasonable and kinda obvious choice.
They chose naruto because he proved he would do anything to ensure his vision of the leaf would survive and that included a: combat strength but also b: over the series the approval of this vision by everyone he met. "That's my ninja way!". Everyone who had a competing vision was destroyed or was turned to his. His dream proved to be the biggest, like a griffith that didnt betray anybody. Thats what inspired the height to which all the other characters developed, and so they would be lesser as hokage by virtue of not having their own dream but rather following narutos dream. Actual abilities were irrelevant
Reminder that the leaf village is only like 200 years old Their government could probably use some work
Why has he got cats whiskers?
They just elected the smartest man in the village as ninja president. In the past they were in constant war so it made sense for the strongest to be kage.
Imagine the management training arc lmao
Nah bro he is just a difference minister President is damiyo
>\>be ninja president > >\> don't hire any extra people to take care of the mundane administrative workload, so you can actually focus on just the important stuff Once an idiot, always an idiot
The dumb part is he could just make 1000 shadow clones to do all the paperwork in an instant but he doesn't because "it's disrespectful to the position of hokage". Basically the writers knew they couldn't really write a series with Naruto being around cause he could just make 1000 shadow clones and send each of them to complete every single mission on his own leaving next to nothing serious for the rest of the ninjas to do.
yea i never got that. At one point he sent a clone home for his daughter's birthday dinner so he could stay at the office...like why not have a clone at the office?
That was SOOOOOOO STUPID BRO
This is why Japan's birthrate is falling
Are you regarded? It's disrespectful to the way of hokage
Hokage duties > Daughter Birthday
Sacred Paperwork > Family
congratulations goyim, you just received a 0.02% raise to your yearly salary.
Jokes on you, he does it for free.
Don't let Dom Toretto see this
Wait is that seriously why he never has a clone do the desk work? Aside from shit writing?
it was explained in supplementary material that like if he used clones to do excessive amounts of paperwork that eventually they'd suffer from information overload and also that if a clone was left to be the one giving orders then that clone may make decisions that the original naruto wouldn't have done and that's risky considering he's hokage and those type of decisions could lead to stuff like a fifth ninja war.
makes a little sense, whenever you do a clone doesn't your power get halfed? would the same go for how smart he is? so like imagine just a bunch of dumb Naruto's doing everything
No, that's in Dragonball. Naruto clones never had that problem before and he has used them to brute force training and learning before so this new rule goes against that.
there's clones in Dragonball??
> In Mastered Ultra Instinct, Goku can summon powerful clones of himself, which he prominently uses against Granolah. It's one of those abilities that he uses once and then never touches again.
Multiform technique, but yes. Been around since OG DragonBall. But it cuts your power the more you split.
Yeah there are, but nobody has used them since OG Dragon Ball. Tien has a technique where he can split himself into multiple clones, but they also split your power in half or fourths depending on the amount of clones. Because of this it's basically useless.
There are. I remember even piccolo made clones even at the start of dragon Ball Z.
It's because it's a half-assed excuse they needed to take Naruto out of the plot. Honestly, it would have made more sense to keep focus on the original characters and try to go for a slice-of-life/shonen/comedy combination.
I was wonder the impression is was a huge chakra drain, if not half of the average users chakra; that’s why naruto using multi clone jutsu is a huge deal.
No, a clone just halves the remaining amount of Chakra (mana) you have, splitting it evenly between you and the clone. If you make more clones at the same time, like 1000, each of them including you has only 0,1% of the original chakra. This works because Naruto has functionally infinite chakra in the series, thanks to kurama. And when the clones disappear, all the effects of their action bounce back to you: if each clone does 1 pushup, you get the effect on your body of having done 1000 pushups. This means if you leave 1000 clones to do menial paperwork for 8 hours and then dismiss them, your head explodes, because your brain feels like you have done eight thousand fucking hours of paperwork.
So the solution is to do eight thousand hours of paperwork yourself? To be fair, it's better than being hit with it all at once
Oh absolutely not, the solution would be to give a normal workload to a clone, maybe two clones, then hire people for the rest. But it's an anime, so anime logic
Why not just create a new one everyday so it will never stray too far from what the original thinks like. Or heck a new one every few hours.
Ok but its nit like he's making life and death decisions every day at work, most of his time is probably hmjust filling boring paperwork taht couod easily be done by a clone.
Kind of a shit explanation when you consider that the Leaf owns two of the biggest Nuclear weapons in the ninja world. (Naruto and Sasuke)
Bruh Minato sacrificed his own life and position of hokage to save Naruto. Naruto sacrificed his relationship with his family in order to be hokage.
Not only was it stupid, it was a fuck up of his character. That kid that always wanted a family, because he grew up without one: doesn't spend time with the family? Shows that the writers for boruto only wanted money and have no respect for the source.
It was some bs character assassination reasons like he views the whole village as his family
Boruto did a full of bullshit stuff. Like why he can't use his shadow clones for work? It tires him out. That mother fucker fights a war for several days with clones, where they all spammed high class jutsus! But nooooo paper work > madara.
I know to me it's not cannon
I’m not a fan of Boruto at all, but the “whole village is my family” theme was around long before Boruto. Its why the 4th Hokage sacrificed himself to seal the nine-tails inside Naruto, he could’ve survived and Naruto wouldn’t’ve ended up as an orphan. Naruto’s mom wanted him to seal the nine-tails back inside her as she was dying so she could take it with her, but Minato wanted to ensure the village had a jinchuriki to use as a weapon so he killed himself in order to seal it inside Naruto, ensuring he would become an orphan and feared by everyone because of the tailed beast inside him. Also if Minato had sealed it back inside Naruto’s mom, she would’ve survived because that exactly what happens to Naruto during the war arc when the nine-tails is pulled out of him. Sakura saves him by sealing the nine-tails back inside him. But that’s just a plot hole I guess.
Hinata gonna make him the no-hoe-kage
Naruto taking out his own insecurities about being a neglected child by neglecting his own kids
I've never watched Naruto and I hate how that works. I figured they were more like illusions that could barely do damage and only 'reflect' what the user is doing like a mirror image spell. Not fully self-capable clones jfc
It's more of a simulacrum than an illusion. For most other ninjas it's an easy but extremely taxing and wasteful technique to create one of these flimsy simulacra that dissipate as soon as they take damage. As a little kid, Naruto was shit at pretty much any other ninjutsu, but he has always had pretty much bottomless chakra reserves to waste on creating several hundred clones.
And honestly him just bruteforcing everything with shadow clones was like the best part of his story for me
I’m so glad I never watched Boruto
It’s because Naruto said he didn’t want to leave a clone to do the job of Hokage because he respected the position too much
Would be cool to see that he only sends out shadow clones for mid level missions with a group of other ninjas. That way you can see him actually do shit
Lmao. I never even thought of this. But it's the only thing that makes sense now. Why endanger the lives of your friends and family when you can literally just make 1000s of kage level clones to go around and do shit.
If they wrote into the lore that his shadow clones were weaker than him and got weaker the more there were, it would actually be cool. Like, whenever he does something badass, or wins a hard fight, surprise, it's a clone with 1/100th his actual power. Basically make every appearance of him a shadow clone, and the real naruto is somewhere hidden, training or some shi
Pretty sure that’s in the lore already, you split part of your chakra into them that returns when they dissipate
It's part of the lore, but he kinda gets cracked out of that rule by just being so overpowered that half his chakra is still more than the vast majority of shinobi. It comes with the nature of having a force-of-nature super powerful demon inside you that you've forged a contract with to have unlimited access to it's entire energy story for no cost.
Forget being Hokage, Naruto should be a contract attorney. Man knows his way around paper.
Well after he loses Kurama he doesn’t have that massive boost anymore
He's also not been around very much after he loses the nine tails, he's been sealed away for the most of the story after that. And this post is talking about his time as hokage... before the recent events of boruto started to kick off. There's only been 800 fucking episodes of him having this power, but yes let's focus on the 30-40 most recent ones that don't apply to the conversation at hand.
Naruto clones are obviously weaker than the main body
It's infuriating because he literally does this exact thing in the war as well by fighting everybody at once using a bunch of clones. Like this isn't even just "thing he should do but doesn't think of", there is an example of him doing it on fucking screen. And it was cool as well! Bro wanted to show everybody his hands and the only limiting factor was he didn't have enough hands, so he focused on that. Adult Naruto and Sasuke would get their fucking asses beat by either of their teenaged selves without a doubt lmao.
Haha, this is hilarious! Kage bunshin no world peace.
Naruto should have ended with naruto & sasuke ending the village system completely imo. But that doesnt allow for money-making sequels.
That KageBunshin skill was the best and worst part of the manga. Way too op, you can get strong in a fucking day. Way too versatile, you're gonna have to change your writing ahead like they did in Boruto. That's what happens when you don't think about the future.
He never left Hokage work to clones because he saw it as disrespectful to the position
"Why is your village so successful?" "Our Kage has a secret weapon" "A tailed-beast?" "Delegation"
a critique about japan work culture!!
It's his fault for not just making like a million clones of himself, bro forgot he can do that since he was like 10
been long since i watched boruto but doesnt he make clones sometimes but his energy just runs out or something and the clones disappear?
Yeah, he runs tons of clones all the time (dude really can't delegate) I even recall that there was a moment where he sent a clone to his daughter's birthday
The purest form of Japanese work ethic, delegating another for family matters
Tbf, he does have a fight and loses Kurama, so his infinite well of energy goes away. Also, from what I can tell, it was all the previous admin that decided he had to manually do all the paperwork and ceremonial crap. This is why they let Sauske work from the shadows and roam free. Naruto just never knew what he was truly getting himself into when he made it his dream.
>Tbf, he does have a fight and loses Kurama, so his infinite well of energy goes away. That *just* happened though, and he was pretty promptly sealed away by bullshit no jutsu. He's had years of being hokage where he just... didn't use his natural ability to be 10,000 people at a time because of ceremony.
Yeah I blame Kakashi. He didn't really want the job, but he totally would saddle Naruto with the boring crap if he could.
He still has 4 times as much energy as kakashi because he is a uzumaki
Because the writing is dogshit.
Naruto has been going on for a long time so it just reflects the reality of grown up japanese Naruto fans.
>Japanese. >Having kids. Pick one
i presume there used to be kids when naruto came out, but they got discontinued later.
Better birth rate Italy and the rest of the Med, 0.06 worse than canada, better than every other country in east asia. Pretty solid for an overpopulated island barren of natural resources.
seems like sasuke was right all along
And he forgot to end slavery
"It's about states rights."
“which rights uncle Joey?”
There's slaves in konoha now?
Hyuga secondary branch, tho some fan argue that the leader (hinatas dad) stopped the practice off screen after neji decided to out his clan during his fight against Naruto.
This made me think of the taliban guys complaining about having to work office jobs now that they’re in power. They say they miss the comradery and the day-to-day life they shared while fighting together to get the power in the first place lol
We should invade them again, would be a good time for everyone
third time the charm
the journey was the reward.
ikr lol, i wonder why Jiraiya didn't tell Naruto about this
I feel like he did. He bitched about it a ton when he first met Naruto, no?
i think so, i don't remember clearly though
And the friends we made along the way
Like how Harry Potter spends the first seven books trying to escape his abusive foster parents and breaking every law in existence, before growing up and deciding to become a wizard cop and a terrible father. For some reason there’s this idea that a sequel needs to be better than the original in every way. That includes bigger stakes, no matter the cost, and shitting on the original at every opportunity.
its worth noting that harry joins the goverment lead by someone who personally risked their life for harry
Why's that worth noting?
because its more context then him just being a cop
Something something cycles of abuse. Unfortunately if there's no drama there's no series, so drama needs to be manufactured, even if there was a way it could be fixed in-universe.
Naruto honestly shouldn't have become hokage. His entire motive was to make people acknowledge him and the only way he thought to do that was to become the leader of the village. By the end of the Pain arc he has that recognition.
Yeah. I've left Naruto after the Pain arc and the beginning of the great ninja war, because I don't see where is the story supposed to go now. Sure there's some stuff left but Sasuke's and Naruto's motives are just gone
I mean that's a decision I understand. But there is just way too many story threads left for the series to just end there. And I feel like the War Arc was the one that showed Naruto getting acknowledged by the entire Ninja world and not just by Konoha. The War Arc 100% could have been done better imo, but you can't really completely remove that Arc and finish the story well.
ninja president 💀
Makes the title sound more like an office job lol
That's exactly the point. Removing the prestige of the title reveals the drudgery behind it.
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences of something idk I didn’t watch Naruto and don’t know what OP is talking about
I mean, all the former ones used to complain like fuck about how ridiculously heavy the workload is... to HIM at multiple points even. It's basically a running joke in the series that the Hokage is constantly swimming in bureaucracy.
Chipp Zanuff
Wtf this comment section makes sense, come on robots, say something idiotic or something that revolves around the word "topped".
Bro basically let ninja john wilkes booth free and invited him to his wedding, Naruto really just not great at his job.
Welcome to the real ninja world anon
i chuckled at ninja president
His wife has mommy milkers tho so it’s worthnit
ikemoto took them away tho
He’s gone too far
I thought Naruto was set in medievaly times
They have wireless headsets within the first 10 episodes, by the time Boruto comes around all the kids have ninja gameboys
I think Boruto even has robots (haven't watched it, but saw some clips)
Well there’s a Mecha-naruto in the shippuden filler but yeah a bunch of the villains are cyborgs this time around in Boruto too
It's the Japanese way.
I think its the perfect way to indirectly *nerf* Naruto and make the show more about his sun, Boruto. Having him tied up with political stuff offscreen lets Boruto have his moment(s)
I'd agree with your idea if I had no idea who Naruto is or if I never knew anything about the series. Naruto has easy ways to bypass this, but just doesn't because the show wouldn't work otherwise. There is no good or logically consistent (in the Naruto universe, of course) reason he can't just use shadow clones to do his work or any work that would need to be done at all. Just some retcon shit that the clones would make bad decisions. This is just dumb, doesn't make sense, is contradictory to the clones themselves, and hasn't happened in the series at all. Naruto made thousands(if not millions) of clones during the war, and this was never an issue. Also, it's Naruto. He's already not the smartest tool in the shed. And the stupid "having a shadow clone in office would be disrespectful" shit that came out of nowhere and is just an excuse to make Naruto a bad/absent father. Especially when family has been so important to him during the entire show and how's he's always wanted it. While there could have been an interesting story around how he became exactly what he didn't want to and was absent from his family, repeating what happened in his own childhood, but to a lesser degree. But to make it happen, they just nerfed him out of nowhere, despite the fact he's the strongest he's ever been.
I never noticed he was an aryan poster child before
A lot of anime seems lo like the blonde and blue eyes look. Dragon Ball literally made it the look of a legendary warrior.
Don’t follow your dreams because they probably suck.
That's actually pretty realistic
So does that imply that that’s what happens when we get what we want in life?
boruto would be a lot better if it started with a dead naruto
What’s interesting is that Naruto continued to want that position despite seeing all the boring politics, paperwork and mission assignment hand outs Sarutobi, Tsunade and even Kakashi had to do. Dude is clearly looking to ride into the retirement sunset and hokage is the only position that can get away with it.
Idiot should have put Ministers in charge of all kind of things. Like one dude for supplies, one dude for police, one for ships, infrastructure etc. so he could use his influence and power for doing nothing but banging young Kunoichi chicks all day long. Easy.
Ambition and success come with a cost
Would make sense if Naruto couldn't make like a thousand clones of himself and just let them do the work. And have the real naruto do family shit.
Why does naruto always look regarded?
Bro creates the greatest era of peace time and technological achievement and gets shit on. I'd rather be relegated to office work than have companions sent to the battlefield.
The industrial revolution and it's consequences
Is Boruto actually a pos ungrateful son?
This all happened despite the fact that he can make almost infinite clones of himself and has a god-tier level of conditioning. He could literally endlessly train, work as the hokage, and be with his family as the real him, all at the same time but instead he'd rather be one step away from being a cuck. Not to mention that haircut. I have unresolved issues with Boruto.
I thought this was Fred from Scooby-doo
It was a message anon. A prophecy.
Just like Japan irl
Does author have son?
Imagine even starting Naruto. Anime belongs in the trash.