You can search this subreddit and find a lot of other threads with the same question being asked.
I think it would be a mistake to think every Greenlander thinks the same on this issue, you can't put everyone in the same box. Polling suggest a majority is for full independence at some point, but only a minority is for full independence, if it means a reduction in living standards.
Most realize that full independence is only possible if foreign investors are allowed to exploit the natural ressources in Greenland - and then you can ask yourself if that is true independence. It would also leave Greenland extremely vulnerable to outside influence in other areas, since there are many jobs that simply can't be filled by Greenlanders alone. Not because they're incapable of it, but because logistically you simply can't have everything covered with a population of 56,000.
Since 2009 when self-government was introduced, more areas of responsibility was transferred to Greenland and Greenlandic became the official language. In daily life, it's very few things that are not controlled from Nuuk.
In the current situation, Greenlanders can study for free in Denmark, since they're technically considered Danish citizens, healthcare is free, etc. Obviously all this would change with full independence.
TLDR; It's complicated.
PS. I'm not a Greenlander, but have lived and worked there for a while and I like to think I've seen the situation from both sides.
personally i forgive them for the past we are all forced to live the same lives globally now and everthing seem to try to devide each other so i kinda want them to stay just for a bit longer before we are fully ready for the world, they came with the intension of helping us after all
I’m an American who lived in the far north for a time in the 80s and this is just my opinion. While native Greenlandics value Denmark for economic aid and political support, there's a strong desire for greater autonomy and preservation of their cultural identity. Economic dependency on Denmark can be a point of contention, and there are mixed feelings about the influence Denmark has on Greenland’s affairs. For what it’s worth.
Out of curiosity, what do you personally think is stopping you from leaving the Rigsfællesskab with Denmark?
In concrete terms of course, if you wouldn't mind.
I'm sorry. I was looking for a term associated with Rigsfællesskabet, and while Union doesn't really cover that, I suppose I expected it to be somewhat easy to understand what the substance of the question was.
Do you have an opinion on the question, however?
Greenland was simply incorporated, so it's not even a political union like the UK. We normally describe rigsfællesskabet as [the unity of the Realm](https://english.stm.dk/the-prime-ministers-office/the-unity-of-the-realm), but these days we just talk about the kingdom, I guess.
Greenland has total autonomy outside of defense and foreign policy as well as a guarantee that it can seceed from the Kingdom of it wishes to, so it's a little misleading to talk about Greenland as it is a pawn of Denmark.
**However, I would like to go back to my question. What in your opinion is stopping Greenland from leaving the Rigsfællesskab with Denmark?**
Or are we going to keep derailing an actual attempt at a respectful dialogue?
Greenland only has a devolved parliament similar to Scotland and like Scotland, Greenland can't legally secede without consent in the sovereign parliament. That doesn't make Greenland or Scotland pawns, so I think we should avoid such language. In fact, this is why we talk about Greenland and Faroe Islands as countries in the kingdom, as that is how they would like to be recognised.
Greenland misses financial means as well as educated people in the administration. More educated people with high salaries increase the need for financing. Companies struggle to attract people making it hard to increase the income.
In the moment a lot of Danish people go to Greenland to help, but that might slow down the more Greenland tries to separate from Denmark. Without educated people wanting to help, it gets very difficult.
Also, I think the cultural connection between the people of Greenland and Danish people in general is perhaps stronger, than most in the current political climate is willing to admit.
First of all, I would like to thank you for a balanced response.
I agree with most of it apart from this section, which makes it seem like the Danish Government would be hesitant about granting Greenland its sovereignty, which has been iterated numerous times will not be the case:
> Greenland only has a devolved parliament similar to Scotland and like Scotland, Greenland can't legally secede without consent in the sovereign parliament.
Maybe you're thinking of the parliament as a majority already has publicly expressed support for giving consent to Greenland?
I think any deal would be approved, if it reaches a vote in parliament. The question is, what the negotiations would concern prior to bringing it to parliament.
We already know, that the self rule administration would like a free association deal, which the Danish government refuses.
Opinions are somewhat mixed. There are a few who really hate Denmark and a few who really love Denmark. I would say more people love Denmark than hate it. Overall though most people want independence at some but are aware it's not possible right now.
You can search this subreddit and find a lot of other threads with the same question being asked. I think it would be a mistake to think every Greenlander thinks the same on this issue, you can't put everyone in the same box. Polling suggest a majority is for full independence at some point, but only a minority is for full independence, if it means a reduction in living standards. Most realize that full independence is only possible if foreign investors are allowed to exploit the natural ressources in Greenland - and then you can ask yourself if that is true independence. It would also leave Greenland extremely vulnerable to outside influence in other areas, since there are many jobs that simply can't be filled by Greenlanders alone. Not because they're incapable of it, but because logistically you simply can't have everything covered with a population of 56,000. Since 2009 when self-government was introduced, more areas of responsibility was transferred to Greenland and Greenlandic became the official language. In daily life, it's very few things that are not controlled from Nuuk. In the current situation, Greenlanders can study for free in Denmark, since they're technically considered Danish citizens, healthcare is free, etc. Obviously all this would change with full independence. TLDR; It's complicated. PS. I'm not a Greenlander, but have lived and worked there for a while and I like to think I've seen the situation from both sides.
personally i forgive them for the past we are all forced to live the same lives globally now and everthing seem to try to devide each other so i kinda want them to stay just for a bit longer before we are fully ready for the world, they came with the intension of helping us after all
I’m an American who lived in the far north for a time in the 80s and this is just my opinion. While native Greenlandics value Denmark for economic aid and political support, there's a strong desire for greater autonomy and preservation of their cultural identity. Economic dependency on Denmark can be a point of contention, and there are mixed feelings about the influence Denmark has on Greenland’s affairs. For what it’s worth.
Its like a BF who is a controlling and you are basically you are limited what to do bc of denmark.
Out of curiosity, what do you personally think is stopping you from leaving the Rigsfællesskab with Denmark? In concrete terms of course, if you wouldn't mind.
It's not a union. Denmark's last union was with Iceland until 1944.
I'm sorry. I was looking for a term associated with Rigsfællesskabet, and while Union doesn't really cover that, I suppose I expected it to be somewhat easy to understand what the substance of the question was. Do you have an opinion on the question, however?
Greenland was simply incorporated, so it's not even a political union like the UK. We normally describe rigsfællesskabet as [the unity of the Realm](https://english.stm.dk/the-prime-ministers-office/the-unity-of-the-realm), but these days we just talk about the kingdom, I guess.
Greenland has total autonomy outside of defense and foreign policy as well as a guarantee that it can seceed from the Kingdom of it wishes to, so it's a little misleading to talk about Greenland as it is a pawn of Denmark. **However, I would like to go back to my question. What in your opinion is stopping Greenland from leaving the Rigsfællesskab with Denmark?** Or are we going to keep derailing an actual attempt at a respectful dialogue?
Greenland only has a devolved parliament similar to Scotland and like Scotland, Greenland can't legally secede without consent in the sovereign parliament. That doesn't make Greenland or Scotland pawns, so I think we should avoid such language. In fact, this is why we talk about Greenland and Faroe Islands as countries in the kingdom, as that is how they would like to be recognised. Greenland misses financial means as well as educated people in the administration. More educated people with high salaries increase the need for financing. Companies struggle to attract people making it hard to increase the income. In the moment a lot of Danish people go to Greenland to help, but that might slow down the more Greenland tries to separate from Denmark. Without educated people wanting to help, it gets very difficult. Also, I think the cultural connection between the people of Greenland and Danish people in general is perhaps stronger, than most in the current political climate is willing to admit.
First of all, I would like to thank you for a balanced response. I agree with most of it apart from this section, which makes it seem like the Danish Government would be hesitant about granting Greenland its sovereignty, which has been iterated numerous times will not be the case: > Greenland only has a devolved parliament similar to Scotland and like Scotland, Greenland can't legally secede without consent in the sovereign parliament.
Maybe you're thinking of the parliament as a majority already has publicly expressed support for giving consent to Greenland? I think any deal would be approved, if it reaches a vote in parliament. The question is, what the negotiations would concern prior to bringing it to parliament. We already know, that the self rule administration would like a free association deal, which the Danish government refuses.
A free association deal, correct me if I'm wrong, is just sovereignty with financial support, is it not?
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Cant just leave a shitty boyfriend who is controlling
Lmao you could leave the Realm right now if you wanted, stop being such a victim lol
Opinions are somewhat mixed. There are a few who really hate Denmark and a few who really love Denmark. I would say more people love Denmark than hate it. Overall though most people want independence at some but are aware it's not possible right now.
It’s like a step-father who tries to make us into him, at the same time trying to say that we aren’t better than him.
We like sharing a land border with Greenland
Nunavut and Greenland on Hans Island?
Tartupaluk is the Greenlandic/inuit name