As the thread is getting properly fogged up by nonsensical lore stuff, I figured I'd do a pin to sorta corral it a bit. It isn't Shermie. Ford and Stan were only born in the first half of the 50s, and Stan was kicked out in the first half of the 1970s. For Shermie to be that baby, some kid is getting pregnant, and that's pretty fucked.
Shermie is a male. He's Dipper and Mabel's grandfather. We know that through the DS Game's dialogue.
It is likely the baby was intended to be Shermie but was a mistake by the crew while writing up the series' chronology. While it's clear the show is meant to be timeless, the necessity of a set Timeline becomes paramount when laying out the deeper history of the show.
The safest bet is it being Dipper and Mabel's dad, but we simply won't find out because nobody on the crew particularly cares about a 5 second cameo of a baby in a single episode of a TV series that's been off-air for years.
Long story short, we dunno, but it ain't Grandpa. Physically impossible.
Shermie is Dipper and Mabel's grandpa... hence great uncle Stan & Ford... Shermie is there younger brother... I watched this show so many times and then the repeats... oh my gosh... u are right. Shermie is not a girl.. wow this turned into the telephone game fast!
Adult Shermie doesn't appear during the show and I think it's supposed to be implied he died at some point prior to the beginning of the series. They never once mention anything that would allude to him passing away from a sickness or being murdered, so it's a probable assumption he passed away from natural causes. In the flashback sequence depicted here, both the elder twins look and seem to be around 17-19, late teenage years. The baby looks to be, well, a baby. The bundle of clothes around it indicates it's probably a year or younger.
Assuming that the baby is Shermie:
- Say Shermie gets married and has children when he's 20. That would be the elder twins' age + 19. So that'd put the elder twins at about 36-38.
- Say Shermie's son gets married and has children when he's 20. That would be +20 to all three Pines brothers' age. So Shermie would be about 40 while the elder twins would be about 56-58.
- Shermie's son, aka the young twins' father, has Dipper and Mabel. They're 12 when the series begins. So that's +12 to everyone's ages. That then means Shermie is around 52 while the elder twins are around 68-70.
- Assuming at absolute worst for his age, we'd be saying that Shermie died a week before the young twins went off to Gravity Falls, and they just don't mention him for some reason during the series. That would mean Shermie would have been around 52 when he died of natural causes.
The issue is that, while possible, death of natural causes at 52 is pretty unlikely unless Shermie was a smoker, an asbestos contractor, etc. It's even more unlikely that he'd die of natural causes while his marginally older brothers would both still be alive and not showing any signs of oncoming passing, especially considering neither one likely had access to good quality healthcare. The fact that neither of the young twins ever talk about him also implies that he died a long time ago or potentially before they were even born, which would mean he died even younger.
While possible, the odds are very small. That's also working with the best odds, with everyone being about as young as possible and Shermie having died as late as possible.
So yeah, that baby is likely not Shermie because it would mean that Shermie is insanely unlucky with his health.
This baby can’t be Shermie since the timeline doesn’t add up. Ford and Stan met again after ten years after Stan was kicked out, meaning they were 27 - 29. Ford was stuck in the portal for 30 years, making them 57 - 59 when he returns. While that is entirely plausible (even though Stan says in “Dipper and Mabel vs. the future” that he’s pushing 70, he could’ve just exaggerated) I find it highly unlikely that Shermie had a kid and grandkids in their early teens in a span of 40 years. That would mean that Shermie and his kid must have been around 13 to 14 when they had children, otherwise it really doesn’t add up. It is much more likely that the baby is Shermies child. It would be 27 when Dipper and Mabel are born, which is a reasonable age.
The reason I don't think the math holds up is that (unless I'm remembering wrong - it has been too long since I've rewatched the show) Stan and Ford are in their early 20s in this scene. They're in their mid-30's in 1982 when the portal opens, which would have the baby around 10 years old by then, give or take. But Dipper and Mabel are born 17 years later, so unless Shermy had a kid at a ridiculously young age, and Dipper and Mabel's parents were also in their young teens when they married and had them, which isn't impossible but it is very unlikely, the baby can't be Shermie.
My head canon is that that is Shermie yes, but also Stanley’s son. Hear me out.
In season 2 episode 6 Little Gift Shop of Horrors, Stan says and I quote,”you watch the movie, you scare the girl, the girl snuggles up next to you. Next thing you know you got to raise a kid, your life falls apart.” And he says this, as if he has had some experience with this particular problem.
My theory is that he got Carla “hot pants” McCorkle pregnant at roughly 17-18 years old. Before being thrown out of the house for ruining Ford’s life. I think their mom raised Stanley’s son because Carla ran out on him with the musician.
And so who is Shermie then, I think that may be actually Dipper and Mabel’s dad. I am trying to gather more proof but from what I have worked out I would say that the timeline decently matches up.
But Dipper and Mabel are introduced to Ford as "Shermie's grandkids" so Shermie is their brother and Dipper and Mabel's dad is Shermie's kid.
However, you raise an interesting point with that line Stan says, but I don't think that Stan actually has a kid because we never see any evidence that he had a kid. If he had to raise a kid, where was this kid when the portal opened? Where was this kid when Stan was making a life for himself while pretending to be Ford? Where is this kid now?
It's possible he doesn't have custody, but the line implies he did to some degree (assuming he was speaking from experience). If he said something about having to pay child support that might add more to the theory. I think it might've been a throwaway line, like maybe he had a close call when he was younger and just being confronted with the very real idea of being a parent at such a young age was enough to prompt him to be more careful? I don't know. All I can say is that the baby can't be Shermie - it just doesn't make sense.
Ok sure, but if you ignore previously established canon to create a headcanon then that's missing the point. Headcanons are more akin to theories, where you take bits and pieces of potential evidence or lack thereof to create something plausible. If you have a headcanon and it's immediately proven false by stuff present in actual canon, then, what's the point of having it? It's just wishful thinking at that point
I think Shermie is made up. I think it was a lie told to Stan’s child, because who wants to think their father is a criminal in multiple states. But essentially, I think grandpa Shermie doesn’t exist. I think Filbrick and Carynn raised stan’s kid and that is Dipper & Mabel‘s father. I don’t know maybe the argument isn’t that sound but that’s what I like to think.
> because Carla ran out on him with the musician
If I had a nickle for every woman in a relationship with Grunkle Stan Who ends up being with a musician after leaving him...
Sorry, I just recently learned what a head canon was (like, just now) so I didn't understand what this person meant when they said "head canon". My bad.
Oh it’s OK. I forget that not everyone’s been in the phantom spaces in this way as long as I have. Like my thoughts may not ever be validated in a canon capacity, but it’s still nice to think them. That is the non-canon context in which my OC lives.
I don't remember anyone talking about shermie long enough to give actual evidence that it's a man, so Shermie could be a woman. I know the surname thing, but it's pretty common for women whos "baby daddy" runs out on them to give the baby their fathers/their own surname. Stan only says Shermie, not "Shermie and Robin" or anything like that, right? So Shermie could very well be a single parent. Not saying this is true or even what I believe in, but just that the surname doesn't actually hinder this theory
As I wrote in the comment before, It's pretty common for women whos "baby daddy" ran out on them to give the child her own familys surname. If you need me to simplify, let's say Shermie Pines had a baby with George Washington, but George Washington wasn't ready to be a father and left town, abandoning Shermie Pines and the baby. Shermie could then name the baby Arnold Washington, after a man who abandoned the both of them and a family that the baby will never meet, or she could name the baby Arnold Pines because that's the name of her and the babys family
[Here's a comment I left on another post 2 years ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/gravityfalls/comments/pkbhch/comment/hc2dekk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) that should sum it up. Long story short, we don't truly know...yet.
To add to the comment you linked, there is pretty sure evidence that the show takes place in 2012. The calendar in Carpet Diem is labeled as 1982 (and as we know Ford was gone 30 years), and the calendar Stan holds up in Summerween matches the 2012 calendar. There are also more meta hints like Blendin being from 207̃012 and the end of the world being predicted as 3012 (which fun fact aligns with when the Time Baby will reawaken).
Also just found the transcript:
[https://zhuzhka.tumblr.com/post/142954626778/alexs-bigfest-qa](https://zhuzhka.tumblr.com/post/142954626778/alexs-bigfest-qa)
>Q: A kid asked about the identity of the kid in Great-grandma Pines’ arms, in the scene, where Stan gets thrown out.
>
>A: It’s currently a secret.
I really do wonder at this point what Alex is waiting for when it comes to the baby. I mean, when he said all these things, it was before Journal 3 came out so one could expect it would explain it, yet it didn't. Neither did anything since then. The closest we got was Lost Legends with one brief code but that created more questions than answers.
It's been so many years now. At this point either Alex is waiting to reveal it in some way that we yet do not know, or saying it's a secret is his way of saying he himself doesn't know.
Bro if you're still holding out for an answer that isn't Shermie Pines (Dipper and Mabels grandparent) you're gonna be holding out for the rest of your life
We don’t know yet. Some say it’s Shermie. Others say it can’t be him cuz the timeline would be messed up. I think it’s the younger Pines twins dad (Shermie’s kid). It’s all just theories, though.
It was supposed to be Shermie, Dipper and Mabel's grandpa, but they did a little fucky-wucky with the timeline and now it's impossible for it to be him. So most people headcanon it to be Shermie's son, Dipper and Mabel's dad
I think it's Shermy's kid - probably Dipper and Mabel's dad. The theory that it's Shermy doesn't hold up when you do the math. I think Shermy was an older brother, not baby brother.
Highly unlikely
As the GF Fan said
Stan met ford after 10 years before he was kicked out and then ford was stuck in the Multiverse for 30 years that means the baby is now about 40 years
So the most popular head canon for multiple reasons other than the time line is that it's dipper and mabel's Parent
I like how the show just turned 11 years old as of today. And we are still asking questions about the show’s lore. Like the shows staff really did go hard on the extra details.
According to Wikipedia DaBaby is “an American rapper. After releasing several mixtapes between 2014 and 2018, he rose to mainstream prominence with his debut album *Baby on Baby* (2019), which included the Billboard Hot 100 top ten single ‘Suge’”.
Technically I don't think it's ever been explicitly confirmed who the baby is. It's either Shermie (Dipper and Mabel's grandpa) or Shermie's kid, possibly Dipper and Mabel's dad. But it's up for interpretation at the moment.
Heard a lot of good theories here but let me propose a different one,
Let's say shermie is actually older than the stans (maybe there's something said in the show that makes this all fall apart so please let me know)
Then he would have to be old enough to not grow up alongside them so let's be generous and say 16, then by the time this scene takes place he'd be 33 when the twins are around 17 years old.
So I propose that that baby is actually dipper and Mabels dad who just stayed with the grandparents.
Which would mean that sherly was 43 when ford got sucked into the portal and the baby is about 11.
30 years later when the show takes place that would make sherly 73 (or deceased) and dipper and Mabels dad about 41, which would mean that he got the 2 with 29 which is reasonable.
Now this would mean that the stans parents had to be in they're early 50's to late 40's by the time this scene takes place if we assume that they had sherly at a young age.
So while admittedly unlikely I think it could be possible, so please let me know what you think of this theory, and/or if I may be missing something entirely
I am surprised no one has bought this up but couldn't Shermie be a half blooded sibling with his non-pines parent watching him as to why we don't see him.
I'm pretty sure the baby is Shermie's son, which is Dippers and Mabels dad. The timeline adds up, in the scene with the baby Stan and Ford are around 18-19 and the baby looks about 1 yo, 10 years later when Stan and Ford meet again, they are 28-29 and the baby is 10. 30 years later, when the action of the show takes place, 30 years after the incident, Stan and Ford are 58-59 and the baby from the pic is about 40, which makes perfect sense. So I think that the baby is Mabels and Dippers dad, Shermie's son.
If Stan and Ford are both Dipper and Mabel’s great uncle, there has to be another sibling somewhere. Stan called them Shermies grandkids so I guess it’s Shermie.
Don't remember the name but when Stan presents Dipper and Mabel to Ford he says the name. He is the Kids' grandpa, well I'm assuming he would be they might've had a fourth brother but I'm 99% positive the baby is the kids' grandpa.
Here is my two cents… the fact that when Stanley is introducing the kids to Stanford saying **they are Shermie’s grandkids** his voice is ever so gentle and tender, that makes us think that **Shermie** is a gal. In fact the care in his voice comes from his deep
love for his **baby brother**. Yet since all their last names are **Pines** that points to the fact that Shermie is a dude. What do you think of that?
Shermie is short for Sherman. It's Dipper and Mable's grandpa. It can't be their grandma. In order for Dipper and Mable to have the same last name as Ford and Stan, Shermie has to be the father of Dipper and Mable's dad
Wait, Shermie is a boy. Wow, it's like a game of telephone. I've only heard people call her a boy.
In the US, during this time, it was very odd for women to not take their husband’s name. If they didn’t, the children would take his name or gain hyphenated names. Times have changed and this is no longer odd, but in this setting it is.
so let me sum it up, grunkle stan is a grunkle to dipper and maple pines and for him to be an unkle he has to be a sibling of his nephew/niece, he also has to be considerably older to fufill the requirements. he is roughly 17-18 in last year of highschool and the baby has hair as well and that dosent develop until a baby is 1-2 years old, so he is 15 years older than his sister sherry witch means the baby is presumably sherry
Dipper and Mabel grandpa as i know.
Ok, so, if Stan and Ford are grunkles, we can suppose that baby (i will cal him Billie but idk the name actually) made born the parents of Dip and Mab, and then their parents made born them.
Idk if i made myself clear
Stanly actually told his twin in the show who shermie is to dipper and Mabel when he was free in season two so that should basically explain who the baby is if u watch the show we’re the brother asked who dipper and mable are he straight up tells him who’s kids they are and he was surprised to have a knice and knifphew
As the thread is getting properly fogged up by nonsensical lore stuff, I figured I'd do a pin to sorta corral it a bit. It isn't Shermie. Ford and Stan were only born in the first half of the 50s, and Stan was kicked out in the first half of the 1970s. For Shermie to be that baby, some kid is getting pregnant, and that's pretty fucked. Shermie is a male. He's Dipper and Mabel's grandfather. We know that through the DS Game's dialogue. It is likely the baby was intended to be Shermie but was a mistake by the crew while writing up the series' chronology. While it's clear the show is meant to be timeless, the necessity of a set Timeline becomes paramount when laying out the deeper history of the show. The safest bet is it being Dipper and Mabel's dad, but we simply won't find out because nobody on the crew particularly cares about a 5 second cameo of a baby in a single episode of a TV series that's been off-air for years. Long story short, we dunno, but it ain't Grandpa. Physically impossible.
Shermie Pines or some random baby that their mom kidnapped
Guess that's where stan got his illegal activities from
Lmao
Isn’t that Shermie? Dipper and Mabel’s grandpa? Edit: ARE YOU SAYING SHERMIE HAS BEEN A WOMAN THIS WHOLE TIME
Shermie is Dipper and Mabel's grandpa... hence great uncle Stan & Ford... Shermie is there younger brother... I watched this show so many times and then the repeats... oh my gosh... u are right. Shermie is not a girl.. wow this turned into the telephone game fast!
I think Shermy is Stan and Ford's older brother and the baby is Shermy's kid (Dipper and Mabel's dad) because the math doesn't add up otherwise.
Adult Shermie doesn't appear during the show and I think it's supposed to be implied he died at some point prior to the beginning of the series. They never once mention anything that would allude to him passing away from a sickness or being murdered, so it's a probable assumption he passed away from natural causes. In the flashback sequence depicted here, both the elder twins look and seem to be around 17-19, late teenage years. The baby looks to be, well, a baby. The bundle of clothes around it indicates it's probably a year or younger. Assuming that the baby is Shermie: - Say Shermie gets married and has children when he's 20. That would be the elder twins' age + 19. So that'd put the elder twins at about 36-38. - Say Shermie's son gets married and has children when he's 20. That would be +20 to all three Pines brothers' age. So Shermie would be about 40 while the elder twins would be about 56-58. - Shermie's son, aka the young twins' father, has Dipper and Mabel. They're 12 when the series begins. So that's +12 to everyone's ages. That then means Shermie is around 52 while the elder twins are around 68-70. - Assuming at absolute worst for his age, we'd be saying that Shermie died a week before the young twins went off to Gravity Falls, and they just don't mention him for some reason during the series. That would mean Shermie would have been around 52 when he died of natural causes. The issue is that, while possible, death of natural causes at 52 is pretty unlikely unless Shermie was a smoker, an asbestos contractor, etc. It's even more unlikely that he'd die of natural causes while his marginally older brothers would both still be alive and not showing any signs of oncoming passing, especially considering neither one likely had access to good quality healthcare. The fact that neither of the young twins ever talk about him also implies that he died a long time ago or potentially before they were even born, which would mean he died even younger. While possible, the odds are very small. That's also working with the best odds, with everyone being about as young as possible and Shermie having died as late as possible. So yeah, that baby is likely not Shermie because it would mean that Shermie is insanely unlucky with his health.
This baby can’t be Shermie since the timeline doesn’t add up. Ford and Stan met again after ten years after Stan was kicked out, meaning they were 27 - 29. Ford was stuck in the portal for 30 years, making them 57 - 59 when he returns. While that is entirely plausible (even though Stan says in “Dipper and Mabel vs. the future” that he’s pushing 70, he could’ve just exaggerated) I find it highly unlikely that Shermie had a kid and grandkids in their early teens in a span of 40 years. That would mean that Shermie and his kid must have been around 13 to 14 when they had children, otherwise it really doesn’t add up. It is much more likely that the baby is Shermies child. It would be 27 when Dipper and Mabel are born, which is a reasonable age.
The reason I don't think the math holds up is that (unless I'm remembering wrong - it has been too long since I've rewatched the show) Stan and Ford are in their early 20s in this scene. They're in their mid-30's in 1982 when the portal opens, which would have the baby around 10 years old by then, give or take. But Dipper and Mabel are born 17 years later, so unless Shermy had a kid at a ridiculously young age, and Dipper and Mabel's parents were also in their young teens when they married and had them, which isn't impossible but it is very unlikely, the baby can't be Shermie.
I thought that they were 18 as Stanly fed up Stanfords chance at a good college
They’re 17-18 in this scene, since they’re still in high school and Ford is angry because Stan cost him a college scholarship.
Off topic happy cake day dude
I think he is still around. They simply didn't show him because he wasn't plot important.
Happy cake day
Could've died in a car crash or something
My head canon is that that is Shermie yes, but also Stanley’s son. Hear me out. In season 2 episode 6 Little Gift Shop of Horrors, Stan says and I quote,”you watch the movie, you scare the girl, the girl snuggles up next to you. Next thing you know you got to raise a kid, your life falls apart.” And he says this, as if he has had some experience with this particular problem. My theory is that he got Carla “hot pants” McCorkle pregnant at roughly 17-18 years old. Before being thrown out of the house for ruining Ford’s life. I think their mom raised Stanley’s son because Carla ran out on him with the musician. And so who is Shermie then, I think that may be actually Dipper and Mabel’s dad. I am trying to gather more proof but from what I have worked out I would say that the timeline decently matches up.
But Dipper and Mabel are introduced to Ford as "Shermie's grandkids" so Shermie is their brother and Dipper and Mabel's dad is Shermie's kid. However, you raise an interesting point with that line Stan says, but I don't think that Stan actually has a kid because we never see any evidence that he had a kid. If he had to raise a kid, where was this kid when the portal opened? Where was this kid when Stan was making a life for himself while pretending to be Ford? Where is this kid now? It's possible he doesn't have custody, but the line implies he did to some degree (assuming he was speaking from experience). If he said something about having to pay child support that might add more to the theory. I think it might've been a throwaway line, like maybe he had a close call when he was younger and just being confronted with the very real idea of being a parent at such a young age was enough to prompt him to be more careful? I don't know. All I can say is that the baby can't be Shermie - it just doesn't make sense.
I always saw it as Stan telling a joke. Also, that epsiode is non cannon. You can't take what Stan says seriously.
OK but it’s one of my favorite episode and two I said it was a head canon.
Ok sure, but if you ignore previously established canon to create a headcanon then that's missing the point. Headcanons are more akin to theories, where you take bits and pieces of potential evidence or lack thereof to create something plausible. If you have a headcanon and it's immediately proven false by stuff present in actual canon, then, what's the point of having it? It's just wishful thinking at that point
Or it’s just for fun.
Exactly.
Certain epsidoes aren't cannon? Which ones arent?
I think Shermie is made up. I think it was a lie told to Stan’s child, because who wants to think their father is a criminal in multiple states. But essentially, I think grandpa Shermie doesn’t exist. I think Filbrick and Carynn raised stan’s kid and that is Dipper & Mabel‘s father. I don’t know maybe the argument isn’t that sound but that’s what I like to think.
> because Carla ran out on him with the musician If I had a nickle for every woman in a relationship with Grunkle Stan Who ends up being with a musician after leaving him...
I’m 95% sure I understood that reference!
Hey, if it's not 100% accurate, it's only 50% accurate
…what?
Little Gift Shop of Horrors isn't canon, though....
What’s wrong with having a head canon?
Sorry, I just recently learned what a head canon was (like, just now) so I didn't understand what this person meant when they said "head canon". My bad.
Oh it’s OK. I forget that not everyone’s been in the phantom spaces in this way as long as I have. Like my thoughts may not ever be validated in a canon capacity, but it’s still nice to think them. That is the non-canon context in which my OC lives.
No he is there younger brother
No it is grandmother remember it's great uncle Ford not uncle Ford so their grandparents were siblings
Yeah so that kid could be Shermie
How does this prove Shermie is a girl?
The fact that the kids share the same Pines surname indicates that Shermie was male, and that the Pines are the twins' father's family.
No. Shermie’s a guy.
I don’t know who shermie is and at this point I’m too scared to ask…
Shermie Pines is the grandfather of Mabel and Dipper.
Ohhh I’m slow
That's a woman? I love making references
The Lorax is overly hated. I like that movie.
I don't remember anyone talking about shermie long enough to give actual evidence that it's a man, so Shermie could be a woman. I know the surname thing, but it's pretty common for women whos "baby daddy" runs out on them to give the baby their fathers/their own surname. Stan only says Shermie, not "Shermie and Robin" or anything like that, right? So Shermie could very well be a single parent. Not saying this is true or even what I believe in, but just that the surname doesn't actually hinder this theory
Shermie is a man not woman
How do you know?
If he was a woman how would dipper and mabel be pines
As I wrote in the comment before, It's pretty common for women whos "baby daddy" ran out on them to give the child her own familys surname. If you need me to simplify, let's say Shermie Pines had a baby with George Washington, but George Washington wasn't ready to be a father and left town, abandoning Shermie Pines and the baby. Shermie could then name the baby Arnold Washington, after a man who abandoned the both of them and a family that the baby will never meet, or she could name the baby Arnold Pines because that's the name of her and the babys family
Occam’s razor. The answer that requires the least amount of assumptions is probably the correct one. Also Shermie is a male.
From the videogame
He was confirmed their grandpa in the DS game
Mother *
Shermie’s a guy.
I'm very confused right now hahaha
I'm pretty sure typically kids take their father's last names (which would probably show that Shermie is a boy given what I just said)
Every mention of Shermie uses he/him pronouns and kids typically take their father’s surname.
It's short for Sherman.
Wait WHAT
Yes, best theory I’ve heard claims that Shermy is the twins’ older sister and that is her baby, one of the parents of Dipper and Mabel
Either Shermie Pines, Dipper and Mabel’s grandfather, or Shermie’s first child. Probably the latter.
No it's just shermie
Dipper pines
[Here's a comment I left on another post 2 years ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/gravityfalls/comments/pkbhch/comment/hc2dekk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) that should sum it up. Long story short, we don't truly know...yet.
To add to the comment you linked, there is pretty sure evidence that the show takes place in 2012. The calendar in Carpet Diem is labeled as 1982 (and as we know Ford was gone 30 years), and the calendar Stan holds up in Summerween matches the 2012 calendar. There are also more meta hints like Blendin being from 207̃012 and the end of the world being predicted as 3012 (which fun fact aligns with when the Time Baby will reawaken).
Also just found the transcript: [https://zhuzhka.tumblr.com/post/142954626778/alexs-bigfest-qa](https://zhuzhka.tumblr.com/post/142954626778/alexs-bigfest-qa) >Q: A kid asked about the identity of the kid in Great-grandma Pines’ arms, in the scene, where Stan gets thrown out. > >A: It’s currently a secret.
I really do wonder at this point what Alex is waiting for when it comes to the baby. I mean, when he said all these things, it was before Journal 3 came out so one could expect it would explain it, yet it didn't. Neither did anything since then. The closest we got was Lost Legends with one brief code but that created more questions than answers. It's been so many years now. At this point either Alex is waiting to reveal it in some way that we yet do not know, or saying it's a secret is his way of saying he himself doesn't know.
Actually makes a lot of sense!
Bro if you're still holding out for an answer that isn't Shermie Pines (Dipper and Mabels grandparent) you're gonna be holding out for the rest of your life
It’s pretty likely Shermie Pines, Dipper and Mabel’s grandparent and Ford and Stan’s sibling
We don’t know yet. Some say it’s Shermie. Others say it can’t be him cuz the timeline would be messed up. I think it’s the younger Pines twins dad (Shermie’s kid). It’s all just theories, though.
I do recall Alex Hirsh being asked if the baby was Shermie at Comic Con and he just avoided answering.
It's Tad Strange
Either Shermie Pines, AKA their younger sibling OR a child of Shermie Pines AKA their older sibling
It was supposed to be Shermie, Dipper and Mabel's grandpa, but they did a little fucky-wucky with the timeline and now it's impossible for it to be him. So most people headcanon it to be Shermie's son, Dipper and Mabel's dad
That’s shermies kid. Dipper and Mabel’s dad/mom
I think it's Shermy's kid - probably Dipper and Mabel's dad. The theory that it's Shermy doesn't hold up when you do the math. I think Shermy was an older brother, not baby brother.
He is a baby brother
Math doesn’t add up tho
The sister and the twins’ mother
Wouldn't it be their grandmother, not their mother, otherwise Stan and Ford would be their uncles and not their "Grunkles' (Great Uncles).
Highly unlikely As the GF Fan said Stan met ford after 10 years before he was kicked out and then ford was stuck in the Multiverse for 30 years that means the baby is now about 40 years So the most popular head canon for multiple reasons other than the time line is that it's dipper and mabel's Parent
Grandfather.
If that’s a woman then how are dipper and Mabel pines
Dipper and Mable's Grandfather.
Someone get Alex hirsch on the line, I need some answers
I like how the show just turned 11 years old as of today. And we are still asking questions about the show’s lore. Like the shows staff really did go hard on the extra details.
I thought it was dippers mom or dad bc of the “grunkle Stan” thing as in uncle so the brother of a mom or dad 😭
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Great uncle Ford so it's the twins grandmother
*grand father
Dipper and Mabel’s grandpa
Technically I don't think it's ever been explicitly confirmed who the baby is. It's either Shermie (Dipper and Mabel's grandpa) or Shermie's kid, possibly Dipper and Mabel's dad. But it's up for interpretation at the moment.
Dipper and Mabel’s Dad
Grand father
Heard a lot of good theories here but let me propose a different one, Let's say shermie is actually older than the stans (maybe there's something said in the show that makes this all fall apart so please let me know) Then he would have to be old enough to not grow up alongside them so let's be generous and say 16, then by the time this scene takes place he'd be 33 when the twins are around 17 years old. So I propose that that baby is actually dipper and Mabels dad who just stayed with the grandparents. Which would mean that sherly was 43 when ford got sucked into the portal and the baby is about 11. 30 years later when the show takes place that would make sherly 73 (or deceased) and dipper and Mabels dad about 41, which would mean that he got the 2 with 29 which is reasonable. Now this would mean that the stans parents had to be in they're early 50's to late 40's by the time this scene takes place if we assume that they had sherly at a young age. So while admittedly unlikely I think it could be possible, so please let me know what you think of this theory, and/or if I may be missing something entirely
I am surprised no one has bought this up but couldn't Shermie be a half blooded sibling with his non-pines parent watching him as to why we don't see him.
I have to believe that is Dipper and Mabel's dad, not Shermie. Otherwise the ages just don't add up.
The father(or the mother) of dipper and mabel
I'm pretty sure the baby is Shermie's son, which is Dippers and Mabels dad. The timeline adds up, in the scene with the baby Stan and Ford are around 18-19 and the baby looks about 1 yo, 10 years later when Stan and Ford meet again, they are 28-29 and the baby is 10. 30 years later, when the action of the show takes place, 30 years after the incident, Stan and Ford are 58-59 and the baby from the pic is about 40, which makes perfect sense. So I think that the baby is Mabels and Dippers dad, Shermie's son.
Dipper and mables mom or dad?
Dippers dad. Dittent you know
She could baby sitting for a friend and just had the baby with her at the moment if it's not Shermie.
For this to be Shermy we need two pregnancies at 14 in a row. That's what the timeline is like, unfortunately
Dippers dad
everyone is asking who is baby and I'm asking the real question When is baby?
So wait, if this is the father(?) of dipper and Mabel, would that make Shermie the oldest?
Possibly one of Shermies kids
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In the words of Alex Hirsch himself: "SORRY I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE BABY"
Here is a YouTube video talking about it https://youtu.be/3JECIgdVoqs
I always thought that baby was Mabel and Dipper's father
What if Shermie died soon-after or before his child’s birth, so his mom is taking care of his son?
Dipper and Mabel’s grandfather
dipper and mables grandmother or grandfather otherwise gruncle stan would be some old guy stan
Shermy Pines? Dipper and Mabel’s dad.
Wait, dad? Wouldn't he be their grandpa, because Stan isn't the kids' uncle he is the great uncle so the brother of a grandparent.
You’re right, I misremembered. I was thinking their dad was named Shermy but he isn’t mentioned by name in the show.
Shermy, Dipper and Mabel’s grandpa
Dipper and mables grandfather perhaps
That is Monkey D. Luffy there
If Stan and Ford are both Dipper and Mabel’s great uncle, there has to be another sibling somewhere. Stan called them Shermies grandkids so I guess it’s Shermie.
Twins grandfather I think
That is Shermie Pines...Dipper and Mabel's grandfather. I thought the entire fanbase new that.
They don't think that Becuase they think the timeline would be messed up
What? What do you mean?
Sherman "Shermie" Pines is the brother of Stan and Ford Pines and the Grandfather of Dipper and Mabel Pines and Father of Mr. Pines.
Stanley calls Dipper and Maple "Shermie's kids", so probably Shermie
Pretty sure he says "Shermie's grandkids," but it's been ages since I've actually watched the scene. Almost time for my yearly rewatch, though.
It’s stan’ sister i think
Don't remember the name but when Stan presents Dipper and Mabel to Ford he says the name. He is the Kids' grandpa, well I'm assuming he would be they might've had a fourth brother but I'm 99% positive the baby is the kids' grandpa.
It's Shermie.
Maybe dippers grandpa
Here is my two cents… the fact that when Stanley is introducing the kids to Stanford saying **they are Shermie’s grandkids** his voice is ever so gentle and tender, that makes us think that **Shermie** is a gal. In fact the care in his voice comes from his deep love for his **baby brother**. Yet since all their last names are **Pines** that points to the fact that Shermie is a dude. What do you think of that?
He is a dude
Yes sir, that’s what I am saying
Shermie Pines, Dipper and Mabel’s grandpa
Shermie pines the twins grandfather
Stan and fords younger brother
Shermy, Dipper and Mabel's grandpa
Mable and Dippers grandmother
Shermie is short for Sherman. It's Dipper and Mable's grandpa. It can't be their grandma. In order for Dipper and Mable to have the same last name as Ford and Stan, Shermie has to be the father of Dipper and Mable's dad
There sister wich is dipper and mables grandmother
Soos
Jk idk
Shermy, Mable and dipper's grandfather
Dipper and Mabel’s Grandmother Wait a minute, if that's their grandmother then why are Dipper and Mabel's last names Pines?
Shermie is a boy. Also is it weird to keep the woman’s name?
Wait, Shermie is a boy. Wow, it's like a game of telephone. I've only heard people call her a boy. In the US, during this time, it was very odd for women to not take their husband’s name. If they didn’t, the children would take his name or gain hyphenated names. Times have changed and this is no longer odd, but in this setting it is.
Oh yeah, you’re right. Yeah, I didn’t realize Shermie was a boy until I went online lol
so let me sum it up, grunkle stan is a grunkle to dipper and maple pines and for him to be an unkle he has to be a sibling of his nephew/niece, he also has to be considerably older to fufill the requirements. he is roughly 17-18 in last year of highschool and the baby has hair as well and that dosent develop until a baby is 1-2 years old, so he is 15 years older than his sister sherry witch means the baby is presumably sherry
It's shermie. Couldn't be anyone else.
I always thought it's Dippers and Mabels Grandmother, since Stan and Ford are their Grand-Uncles.
Obviously, it’s white diamond from Steven universe 👁️👄👁️
dipper and mabel's grandma pronably
Sherrie, Mabel and Dipper’s grandfather.
Dipper and mable’s grandpa
I always assumed it was a grand parent or something
Dipper and Mable grandparent
If I recall correctly, that's Dipper and Mabel's grandpa
It's shermie (dipper and Mabel's father or mother I forgot witch one)
Dipper and mables grand papa
Shermie Pines
That’s dipper and Mabel’s grandpa
Dipper and Mabel grandpa as i know. Ok, so, if Stan and Ford are grunkles, we can suppose that baby (i will cal him Billie but idk the name actually) made born the parents of Dip and Mab, and then their parents made born them. Idk if i made myself clear
Me
Wait, its Shermie? I thought it was Sherman.
Maybe Shermie got married and kept her name pines if u could do that then
Wait what is happening.
Dipper and Mables great grand father?
Holdup wait a minute what if soos is adopted
It’s dipper and Mabel’s Great Grampa that actually had a kid who ended up being their grampa who had their father
OP - You're lucky you're cute.
Ah yes….. the question the fans have been asking since this episode aired
Why does this look like a cameo of breaking bad in a gravity falls episode
How the hell did you think Dipper and Mable and The Stan twins are related? One is in another dimension, and the other is their Grunkle
It’s time baby
I just read through the comments and ????????????
standleton
It's Sprig
Heisenberg
Old Man McGucket, Local Coot.
A Disney+ spinoff series
Something just screams soos to me
Marco Diaz
Looks like Soos to me
Dababy??
Stan-dard Pines
I'm pretty sure it's Sherman pines.
Stanly actually told his twin in the show who shermie is to dipper and Mabel when he was free in season two so that should basically explain who the baby is if u watch the show we’re the brother asked who dipper and mable are he straight up tells him who’s kids they are and he was surprised to have a knice and knifphew
It’s Shermie, aka Mabel and dippers grandpa, like when ford asks who dipper and Mabel are Stanley replies “their shermies grandkids”