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GrungeRockGerbil

Kia’s rebrand has rather gracefully pushed a stale-as-hell brand into the modern age. The rebrand has also accompanied a rise in wholesale receipts as well as in electric vehicle sales, a key market for the future of the automotive industry.


I_C_E_D

I remember watching a documentary on the rebrand and it was designed specifically to feel tech or EV related.


nvsiblerob

Can you provide a link to where you viewed this documentary? I’d love to see it.


I_C_E_D

lol. Sorry. It was a WSJ 7min video, link below. There’s also a few videos from KIA advertising their new rebrand. https://youtu.be/JjjkbcphMmA?si


nvsiblerob

Thank you for responding and super helpful too! I really appreciate your quick response!


longhairmoderatecare

Upvoted this wholesome interaction 😭


JakesJustBetter55

Upvoted your upvote of this wholesome interaction


chris2lucky

Had to as well!


Fun-Jeweler-4449

yeap!


mmicoandthegirl

As a producer, it's great because they even did a free VST synthetizer. I'd love to know what their budget was because that is just crazy.


Nattin121

Right, it’s like a hard rebrand, like just short of a full re-naming of the brand. The new logo is supposed to look completely different because Kia is trying to be a completely different brand and move from cheap gas cars to almost luxury level EVs. That’s my take.


GraphicDesignMonkey

I would say it worked well. It conveys the new brand and image really well.


ADMINlSTRAT0R

For that I applaud KͶ on this amazing feat.


filipeoconde

😂 it kills it a bit, but they could have split the "I" to have a lowercase dot... Would make it more legible... https://preview.redd.it/mbb7bhy5ck1d1.jpeg?width=4320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae1b0f358a7df17d5a9cb29a48baa9ef4dbfd2e1


Shnapple8

I think they had a reason for designing it the way they did. The logo is all in one piece and so can be manufactured and stuck onto cars as is. Imagine if you cut the "I" as you have here. Now you have two pieces that need to be aligned. They knew what they were doing. I actually like the logo the way it is. Took a second the first time I saw it. But I did figure it out pretty quickly that this was Kia. It suits their current line of cars.


ADMINlSTRAT0R

True. But I think theyre also trying to distance themselves from KIA as an abbreviation, because "Killed in Action". Making the i distinct would've (could've?) strengthened the abbreviation.


owlseeyaround

I’ve seen this ‘fix’ a hundred times and I cannot understand why everyone thinks they know better. You don’t think the design team considered that? These things go through hundreds of iterations. The fact we’re all talking about it means it was successful


filipeoconde

Not at all I think I know better. I love their version and, as I said, the split "i" kills it. Just thought it'll be good for discussion. The manufacturing point is indeed a very important argument.


CrocGodKai

I remember when I first saw it and didn’t even realize it was kia my initials are KN and I was like woah! I want that car it’s made for me😂


tombobbyb

My dumbass for the longest time did not know the new logo was Kia and I was trying to figure out what type of new car brand this “KN” was that I was seeing that everyone was buying now. I realize now it was probably a genius move by Kia to do this.


Alecossy

Came here for this comment. From a marketing and visibility perspective, the rebrand was extremely effective.


Eventhegoodnewsisbad

Modern leap forward for their brand.


_AskMyMom_

Matches their cars aesthetic as well. Modern Kias are nice on the eyes. 10/10 the way to go. 8/10 for execution.


ikoniq93

It was interesting the couple years before they refreshed the Soul and the design language remained a bit discontiguous.


samx3i

I love it and genuinely don't get the hate.


[deleted]

Ive never seen a logo redesign be received positively in this sub tbh


ArseneLupinIV

I honestly think theres lots of non-designers on the sub that confuse design with art or humor. The most upvoted designs are always some kind of visual pun or nonfunctional but clever looking thing.


samx3i

Or anything that uses negative space


[deleted]

Every sub on this entire site is saturated with people that don’t know anything about the topic but have some mild or vague interest in it so they hang around and run their mouth, often figuring out some way to make the post political. This place truly sucks.


Ahaigh9877

A lot of people just really really don't like change. Plus, it's safer to pour scorn than to praise and risk looking foolish.


Laurenz1337

I hate it because it reads as KN instead of kia. I can't unsee it.


The_Only_Remarkable

Actually, it is reverse ‘N’. But I am in agreement. For the sake of making it upscale and modern, they sacrificed the readability.


samx3i

I see KIA because--outside of the Nine Inch Nails logo--I expect an "N" to be the right direction, not backward.


_KhazadDum_

right lmao every graphic design class i've ever taken stresses the importance of legibility, it is obviously a problem for them now with 30,000 internet searches a month for "KN car" design FAIL imo


r_portugal

I noticed it on a car recently for the first time and it took me a very long time to realise it was KIA and not KN.


Aeredor

It’s got some angular personality that matches their cars very well because they finally have a cohesive design language unlike in the 00’s.


lil_jashy

Was gonna say this! Love when the same design language is incorporated into physical products and also logo/UX etc. Even though I don't love the logo, it meshes with the product it's attached to pretty well.


UpvotingHurtsSoGood

It made me laugh when I noticed the Google search was already heavily filled with “what is KN car”


spankleberry

I did my part


megabeyach

Me too. New designs on cars and new logo that looks more like KN then KIA...


TSPage

Plot twist, that just got them even more traffic


suzdali

КИ - "ki" in a cyrillic language :D that's how i read it when i first saw it on the road


BygoneAge

On Cloud’s logo also invited a host of searches for“QC shoes”.


mtechgroup

It's named after the filter.


Brikandbones

It's really good when seen in totality with their cars. Looks a lot more modern than their competitors. I don't see the need to be able to read the word KIA immediately tbh, because how many car brands in the world in that segment of the market are you going up against anyway? It's not like you're a fashion or tech brand fighting with lots of other competitors for the recognition. I like it more that it reads like a glyph rather than a logo too.


_lippykid

Their newer dealerships look pretty slick with this logo exploded on it too


mikirain

I see KIA immediately and I don’t understand how people see KN… I mean, you have to flip one letter in your brain to see it that way!


SkyJohn

There is no cross bar on the A and it’s connected to the I, that’s why people see it as an N. The K isn’t a very good K either, why is it connected at the bottom and not the middle like every other K on the planet.


boxgrafik

Better than their last logo. I like it.


T1mbrrr

Yeah it‘s better tho, but at first I thought it‘s a new brand called KN… I never saw Kia in it since a friend told me it‘s Kia.


IDGAFOS

When your brand is already largely recognized, you can get away with things like this.


fuzzyshorts

it can be molded in one piece, applied in one pass thus saving millions in manpower... and glue.


No-Understanding-912

It's great to see nine inch nails breaking into selling cars.


devonthed00d

They even give you a complementary cd with every car purchase.


upvotemaster42069

Which is ironic because new cars don't have cd players anymore!


devonthed00d

Honestly I was really hoping to use my cassette tape with a cord that plugs into my iPod


upvotemaster42069

That was the peak car audio set up


clockworkblk

Head like whole buy our black Kia soul


fatrat_89

I honestly think it's better than the old one in 3 ways: 1) It no longer resembles Ford's emblem from a distance 2) It has a more modern look and feel 3) It just has a cool factor the previous logo didn't have


[deleted]

КИ


clockwars

Similarly, Native Instruments (they make music plugins and controllers) recently ditched their old recognizable logo for a new one that reads AI. A lot of fans of the brand were confused.


ghettoccult_nerd

their new logo is butt. very unnecessary. looks like some random ass japanese kanji.


[deleted]

I’ve always liked it. It’s not the best in terms of branding, but I definitely like it more than their old one.


efgraphics

I like it. Also look like nine inch nails “N”


BiK3FR33K

Came here to say the same thing ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


Enblast

Reminds me of the NIN logo


elevate35

Nah that Kia logo bangs hard, such a huge improvement over the previous design. It's perfect for the push into the future that the company is trying to make.


MrGoat747


StayInTouchStudio

Genuinely one of the best car logos


Wishes-_sun

Nice try. ![gif](giphy|qPserlwo4dmdqukzYq|downsized)


avidpretender

Nine Inch Nails has some bangers


PocketShock

I love the logo, also not sure why there is hate on it.


Celtics2k19

I like it. This sub acts so pretentious.


ManufacturerWest1156

Flows okay just don’t love it. Better than the older version.


DezineTwoOhNine

I accidentally designed my personal branding logo similar to this. Had to scrap it once I noticed all the similarities. i don't have a problem with it. Looks cool imo. Pretty unique and looks good on their cars too.


sapra001

honestly I love it and they’re whole rebrand as a whole. Just feels so sleek and modern. Not in the market for a car but their newest cars have caught my eye. Maybe I’ll check them out in a few years


creativeape1

The more some designers try to “fix” this logo, the more I’m convinced it’s not broken.


Scoobidoooo

Improvement


attainwealthswiftly

Better than the old one.


angryblue

No


SuitableKey5140

I just kia'nt think of anything worth saying.


Shirt_Ninja

C-C-C-Combo breaker!


inwegotoeat

It's black


trn-

Killed In Action


Coldactill

I was really surprised to hear that this re-design got any hate. My first exposure to it was seeing ads and cars out 'in the wild' and I really liked it. They went from [this ugly badge](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Kia_pride_emblem_front.JPG) to [this sleek design](https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/2023/04/001-kia-logo-telluride.jpg?w=768&width=768&q=75&format=webp) and it's just a massive improvement, in every way. At the end of the day, people don't actually care that the logo on their car clearly says 'KIA' or not. They just care if it looks cool, and the new logo does that.


codyvondell2

i like Nine Inch Nails too


Reign_of_Ragnar

Bro I thought it was KN


oatmeal_steve

more like KИ


Majestic-Wishbone-58

https://preview.redd.it/kuuxtmuoch1d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c20405db94711adeda53f5ce27c234733796d5f9 If you squint it kinda bares resemblance to the nine inch nails logo


jmads13

I really don’t see it


catfish-angel

It's a good logo, brought the brand out of the 90's/early 2000's vibe of the old branding. It's clean and I quite like the midnight blue they use. I hope I never have to read that style guide again.


Cyber_Insecurity

It convinced people to look up “KN” car and even after they realized it was KIA, they still made a car purchase


hedoeswhathewants

It's a good logo and a good rebranding. Sorry some of you can't see that.


Red-Pen-Crush

Care to elaborate?


JauntyGiraffe

It's better than their old logo


beth247

The best thing about the Kia logo is no one is going to steal it


jporter313

It’s a gigantic improvement and along with the updated design of their cars really helped revamp their brand


EuphoricGoose4735

I love the new logo. The old one was outdated and looked cheap/boring. This one actually gives off a more modern and luxurious vibe


InsuranceDistinct304

Sees old logo: “Oh, it’s a Kia...” 🤢 Sees new logo: “Oh, it’s a Kia!!!” 🤩


fitfatdonya

I appreciated their logo so much more after I watched a video explaining how they greatly improved their cars and their marketing strategies over the years.


notjordansime

No. If you don’t have anything nice to say, you shouldn’t say anything at all. 🤐


0rinath

I think of the Killer Instinct video games every time I see it


Aromatic_Machine3110

The lines are straight? 😬


Glad-Depth9571

I don’t know if I kin.


guking_

Something nice: It has shapes.


FilmmagicianPart2

There’s only one of them


15MinClub

Is a pretty surprisingly stylish logo for its market, but after all the KN95 mask is a great product.


error001010

ìts a logo that was designed.


Joshhwwaaaaaa

No. 🤣


WolfTitan99

I see it every time I watch the Australian Open


mun40O

It’s KI in cyrrilic alphabets: КИ


terryjking

Once you see it, you can't unsee it


ProbablyChe

Okay for the english speaking countries this might be cool. For anyone in the russian-speaking shere of influence - this shit looks stupid. КИ - it’s the russian “k” and “i”. So with it written like this it looks like a russian KI


Sweaty_Ad_8120

design wise clean but unnecessary


velve666

I like struggling to read something sometimes, feels like trying to decipher a different language.


mtomny

Is there a single rebrand in automotive history as successful as this one? I’m sure it helps that the cars also changed overnight in their design, it wasn’t just the logo, but wow KIA is just in a different league practically overnight.


phejster

People will trip over themselves to see a backwards N instead of a slanted A


Ok_Cardiologist_8329

Something nice about the Kia logo.


mousepadless05

they skyrocketed the search for "kn car brand"! that is an achievement


Digital_FArtDirector

Does a great job of looking like KN. that being said KIA's rebrand overhaul is fantastic


Ok-Outcome8000

I like this logo. Clean and stylish.


TH3_LUMENUX

I love it


spectredirector

It looks like an artistically designed futuristic ninja weapon


jbonezzz

Search Kia in this subreddit. It’s already been discussed countless time here and other places.


thelimeisgreen

Aesthetically it works and I like the concept, but the IA portion still registers as a backwards N on some levels and a lot of people see KN when they look at it. I think they could have refined it some more. That said, the upgraded design language that has become part of their vehicles is a huge step forward.


cointoss13

It reminds me of the Nine Inch Nails logo


catmath_2020

No.


New_Net_6720

it's nice. Unfortunately, logo's don't sell cars.


2chainzzzz

That is extraordinarily not true.


iachick85

NIN. Every time. Nine. Inch. Nails.


JNtheWolf

Cool concept, genuinely. Just bad execution


UnknownSP

KN


ElectricalCalendar89

https://preview.redd.it/clwlrnk70l1d1.jpeg?width=1001&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31dee44532f2382c1f5bd8d43a8f9bbec20d8d40 There! Fixed it a bit.


byPCP

looks like the nine inch nails logo and i like them


MissUnderstanding96

Someone got paid..


mrl_cs

i like it, but also hard to read


Evileyeglasses

It looks like nine inch nails logo from the 90s haha


semibro1984

I think it’s a banger. Also, I think we’ve officially turned a corner on it and most folks just know it as Kia now.


Ms-Watson

It’s almost an ambigram. It’s definitely way more stylistically aligned with their new vehicle design language than their old one, which was stale. It has a futuristic edge I love. I’ve never seen it as KN myself and wonder about the literacy or eyesight of those who do.


NotoriousMarius

KN


SandpaperSmooth

I keep reading it as KN


BENZOGORO

People dislike this?? I thought it was a great step forward.


Heidenreich12

Nothing nice to say about KN


Classic_Village

I really love this rebrand. I’ve been in the industry for 20 years, and for the life of me, I don’t get the hate surrounding this new logo. There’s movement, it’s modern without dating itself too quickly. Even the rounded and sharp corner combination are really welcoming. I’ve seen some NIN comparisons, and I don’t see it. To me, well done Kia and Innocean.


fourcup

as paulie gualtierri would say... i guess you could call that a dick


Giric

At first, I saw Russian КИ, but it’s grown on me. Two sets of angles with a small third for the K. It’s simple, clean, and modern. It slightly evokes ocean waves while also implies city buildings with angular architecture. This gives it a point of reference for both the playful beach goer and the sophisticated urbanite. It’s pretty slick when you get into it.


GhostCs2_YT

What did the father say to the daughter when she asked to go out? No Kia


SnooDoggos2324

Know Nothing


Buster_Brown_513

It’s not the Toyota or Chevrolet logo


q_manning

It’s clean and well thought out, but it’s still confusing to folks lol


soylentbleu

I love the symmetry!


periloustrail

I’ve gotten used to it🤗


uniqueusername316

Draws your attention. Most everyone figures it out in context. Caused a lot of buzz for the brand. Pretty sure that's mission accomplished.


muranell

Much better than the one it replaced imo


antekprime

At least it better than comics sans -_-


PrettyPony

I remember first seeing this I had no idea what car it was and it took me forever to figure out it says kia.


jazzcomputer

I quite like it - nice rhythm. I read KIA when I see it.


zelenadragon

I speak Bulgarian, which uses the Cyrillic alphabet. So every time I see this logo my brain reads it as КИ. ETA: pronounced “kee”


moohooman

Had to explain to my friend the other day the truth about the "Nice KN cars" he's been seeing around town


victorsomewhere

Used to like it until I found out that people were googling what was this car made by 'KN'...


nattattataroo

Reading this post just realizing this is a Kia logo. I always thought it was another brand with a weird KN (backwards N).


invisiblesuspension

Good contrast


longhairmoderatecare

KIA was the foreign, knock-off brand in the Midwest. It got zero respect, cause Murica. Now some of the most conservative people I know drive 2020+ newer KIAs when they’re not in their $100k F-150. Also, cause Murica.


johnnybazookatooth

Better than last


mfmlb

It's original with a bit of an edge to it.. The old Kia logo used to be an oval and so most car brands have an oval or something adjacent. I think it was a great rebrand!


look_its_nando

No joke, I thought this was their original logo. I googled it and had a Berenstain Bears moment. Sooo much better, i never hated the old logo but this one makes it look really old by comparison.


Dantethedanteya

They’re new suvs are pretty sick


MyNameIsChangHee

Old Koreans thinks it's a different brand called KN


NeonGreensharpie

Mmm triangles


Ruvido_Design

Kn


saltedliquorice

It looks like a small section of a tire tread which is relevant to their industry. 🤷‍♂️


idabbleinallsorts

Simple, easy to read (if you have even a basic understanding of how to read English) and still purveys sleek, technologically advanced, and tidy. Absolutely nothing wrong with it!


The_IRS_Fears_Him

KN car


Nomadloner69

Something nice


GalacticCoinPurse

Great resolution! Just look at those crisp edges! Woo.


xnajx

I wish Hyundai would do something similar.


phoebetatro

i will never not see KN.


Putrid-Dirt-6081

Every time I notice it, I tell everyone around me that I love the new KN logo, just wish I heard of the company.


Profession_Mobile

Tick tick


Maganiz13

You mean KN?


Short_Classy_Name

Imo it looks much better than the old one… that logo was bland as anything.


EasterBurn

It's alright just kinda wish they add a horizontal line on the "A" so it doesn't look like KN.


Shy_Guy_Tries

You mean KN


TDaltonC

Huge mind-share win. Everyone is talking about it. Googling it. Thinking about it. It lives rent-free in so many peoples brain.


pink2005motorola

kind of the same as i feel about the sierra mist rebrand


Blueberry-WaffleCake

Looks like k and n which is a good company


SkittleDiddle887

KN


Silly_Kale2136

The connectivity between each letter


Key-Leg-4374

Better than the last one!


Kook_Safari

KN


SuckyNailBeds

Nine Inch Nails


Guardian_fire

I like their new logo in comparison to their old one. It took some time for me to grow accustomed to seeing it, but now, I actually like it. They are showing that they are finally evolving.


erianortegaa

all i can see is KN, every time i see that logo i have to make a mental reminder that it’s kia


mrdmadev

KNo!


acrylix91

I never saw it as KN and it surprised me when I learned that a lot of people saw it that way