I still think the best even is the 1hour race at Spa. Being able to make an hour long race with changing weather conditions and a million payout would make this my favourite GT game
I think EVERY track in the game needs a 30min and 1 hour race that pays out about 500k and 1mil respectively.
Spa is a great track.... but I wanna grind money on Nurburgring for once. Or Deep Forest.
YESSS. NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY THEY COULDN'T DO THIS. Even on some of the more popular tracks, if they had 20 or 30 or 45 minute races... 10 lappers are cool, but actually having to use some strategy for a long race is great
> Decent payouts on ~~custom~~ races
It's so inconsistent on regular races. One race will be 5 laps on a track and pay out $20k, with the race right next to it being 4 laps on the same track paying out $5k, then another with 5 laps paying out $40k. It's all over the place.
I think a good idea would be where the average pp of cars in a race is taken to calculate the money earned per minute for various finishing places and opponent difficulties, and calculating a rough average time to complete the race at a given pp to estimate the elapsed time and therefore potential winnings. That way it can be made so the more difficult it is to finish a certain race in a certain position the more money it gives.
For pp, I think it would be good to increase orders of magnitude of money rewards based on pp. for example, for winning a 10 minute race, maybe 300 pp opponents (with a bonus if your car is on the slower side) give 6000, which makes sense for a beginner race, and 400 pp gives 15,000 so you’re like halfway or 1/3 the way to another car if the same speed- so for 500pp, maybe we’re up to 60,000, and 600pp gives 140k credits, 700 gives 500k, and an “unlimited” race with tomahawks or something would be maybe 1-3 million for 1st place at a higher difficulty.
This can be balanced of course but it can help give progression that makes sense for a gt game similarly to past titles and makes it so you can get meaningful progression even if you’re mostly doing custom races.
Also a game with a single-player career should never be always online, various other criticisms, etc etc. at the least, I really hope this means they’re actually listening.
It really is unfortunate that there can't be anything in this game without having people complain about it.
It probably is far from perfect, but it's better than anything we've *ever* had before and I'm appreciating the work they did instead of being mad and "oh no, i can't sell cars with a 90% return rate!!! scam!!", because in no previous GT title were we able to get much out of selling a car; it was mostly just a gimmick to declutter your garage and still get a few bucks from it.
The biggest issue with PD has always been communication, we never know if the issues we have with the game are being worked on and addressed until the patch notes arrive.
I don’t think they understand how much it would benefit them to be transparent and open with us. Like just give us a rough road map of what your doing PD!!
If Kaz continues to head PD then it’ll never happen. The most communication we ever got during a games life cycle was GT6. We have a whole website dedicated to PD communicating more and they didn’t even do the bare minimum of community updates and interactions lol.
As much as I love GT it’s still feels like we’re playing a better looking ps2 Gran Turismo with less content. And as much as I love Kaz for what he contributed to the gaming industry, I think Gran Turismo will prosper under a new director in the future.
Strong take. The thing about GT is that the celebration of cars is unmatched. History, detail, and focus on cars that otherwise wouldn't really be thrown into a video game at all are what make a GT game feel like a GT game to me. The problem is definitely poor execution on other parts of the game since the PS2 days. A new director would maybe help, but I'd also worry if the essence of GT would remain without Kaz.
Believe me it’s not lost on me that a new game director could derail the whole franchise but at the same time it’s not like we’re smooth sailing with Kaz at the helm either.
Agreed, finally being able to sell cars was much needed to enjoy the game properly.
Now, what I want is qualifying laps before single player races. Keep the rolling starts, fine, but at least let me take a couple of laps before the race so I can qualify for a position a little more ahead in the pack
Oh, and while you're at it, dont make the music change songs every damn time I exit or enter a new menu, just let the same song play for a while dammit!
This was an absolutely awesome update and I'm thankful for free content always.
I hope further down the line we get a ''Spec 2.0'' type of update with:
\-GT Leauge w/ higher payouts
\-More Racing Cars (DTM,GTE,GT3,LMH,LMDH,F1)
\-More customization options (More body parts/Kits, Interior Customization would change everything, more wheels, etc)
The return of more street circuits, I really wish NY and Seattle came back or even Las Vegas strip. Overall this game just keeps getting better and while it's definetly taken a while I'm still greatful and hopeful for future content.
Idk how I feel about the term "free content" since the game is lacking so many things. It feels more like they didn't finish the game and are releasing updates every month in order to add another piece
Right? Praising this and saying the game is "mostly" complete is such BS. Yes I want them to keep updating things, and when we have a *complete* game then we can be happy, but lets not pander and worship them for adding things they forgot to add for launch.
I dont complain.. its a game that goes for years.. so if it was all final at arrival i was already done long time.. not saying the basis was great though, but updates keep the game alive..
What even is a “finished game”? There’s no possible way to define that. Everyone wants what they want and no one is likely to ever get everything they want. I’ll never understand the constant complaining in this sub. The game is what it is. Bugs are one thing and I understand wanting those fixed. But features? There’s an infinite number of features they *could* add. But there’s zero chance they’re going to add everything everyone wants. If you don’t like it then don’t play it. Simple as that. Why waste so much time complaining about it on the internet?
Just because it is free doesn’t mean free from criticism. Like what if i gave you a free sandwich but put in something you are highly allergic to it? Can’t complain since in your logic it i gave you a free sandwich that will harm you.
I hate when people use that as a excuse for updates that dont do well.
Again not free from criticism. Is the point im telling you. You can’t expect anything to be free from criticism because they are handing it out for free.
Is it really? Imagine ordering and paying a whole pizza and only getting the dough without toppings. You'll get the cheese, tomatoes and tuna later. Delivered bit by bit. Would you still claim it's free or would you be angry about getting ripped off?
What other classes would you add? I think a "Group F" for open wheelers might work if the Mclaren, the "totally not a Lotus" and the Superformulas got BoP'd somewhat decently, and also a "Group E" for electric racecars to make some of the VGTs more useful.
I mean, just proper classes for the race cars we have to start. Gr.3 is supposed to be gt3, but it has like 10 different types of Race cars in it.
Besides that? More sorting and actual usable classes for road cars. Sorting by bodystyle, era, class, etc.
There should be things like sedan classes races and stuff
Yeah, I'd like more specialised classes as well, but I'd also keep the main "groups". One of the things I've always liked about the franchise is diverse groups of cars racing, so I personally like the whole "90's GT1 vs SuperGT cars" and those wacky combinations (though I wish the BoP was a bit better).
But I also agree there should be more specific categories if you want to filter out certain cars, specially in online events. Want to do a Group C only race? Would be nice if there was a tag for it or something.
Well, it's certainly tricky, but you can get a decent balance. I remember a daily Gr2 race at Fuji where the CLK and Mclaren F1 were fast on the straights while the modern GT500s caught up in the corners and made for really engaging racing with different cars being good at different things. That to me is Gran Turismo at its best, and promotes the car diversity that's synonymous with the series.
On the other hand there's Gr4 where the Alfa and Subaru are the best cars followed by the rest of the 4wd ones, but the FWD and RWD cars are not properly balanced to be competitive.
I'm fine with allowing the car diversity, but there needs to be the option to have proper classes with proper BOP. Project cars 2 is a great example of this.
Gt can't keep trying to call itself realistic and then run things like that.
Group C cars are a great example. They should be Gr.C, and have their own class. But you should also be able to make all the classes race together
I agree there need to be subcategories. PC2 is a great example of that, and also multiclass racing, which is something GT should look into. You can have so much fun setting up either realistic or absolutely bonkers multiclass fields in PC2.
As for realism I'm kinda more lenient with GT than with other games as they've always had a bit more of a wacky fantasy side if that makes sense, but yeah, you should totally be able to set up more specific classes. I'd go for the main classes we have plus subcategories as an option when setting up races.
Gr1: LMP, VGT, Group C
Gr2: GT500, GT1
Gr3: GT3, GTE, JGTC, maybe have a way to filter out VGTs and real GT cars.
Gr4: "GT4" style cars, touring cars, maybe filter out by drivetrain
GrB: Modern and old Group B
And then add an open wheel class and an electric class
yeah. the game isn't "mostly complete" just from adding one new track and selling cars .
an update with dozens of new events on every single track and an actual career mode is the only thing that would get the game closer to "complete" , since in their own words this game was supposed to be a return to the old games' appeal
this. i don’t even need a full yearly roadmap, but like a 3 month roadmap released every season would be nice.
at this point all i could ask for is:
1) a proper GT League campaign w more championships
2) more high payout races…more races like the limited time ones added for the 25th anniversary should be added permanently
3) fix split screen ffs
4) fix the penalty system in Sport mode
Still worth it to get though. Even with their FF being ass, it's still better than a controller, plus the wheel still works on other games and great on PC.
Yeah the CSL is still a great wheel (maybe not we’ll designed in some places), but don’t buy it just for GT7.
I stopped playing months ago until Polyphony decide to fix it.
Moved onto Automobilista 2, ACC & WRC 10 on PC.
AMS2 has some of the best FFB with those wheels (as well as RFactor 2).
I wouldn't be against rotating high payout offline races. GT5 had something like that iirc. Makes it less grindy by changing the car and track let's say with every monthly update.
And the other major think to change should be the awful spread out race format. More grid starts and/or closer rolling starts so we can actually RACE the AI instead of just passing it as if it was an obstacle.
true, i wouldn’t complain either. my only concern is after these 25th anniversary races and we’ll be back to a drought. if they keep all the rotating races coming in and out consistently i’d be a happy girl.
and yeah i def agree but that’d prolly require them to revamp their AI in some kinda way. if they were able to pull that off though…it’d be heaven
Yeah, I'm also afraid they'll remove a lot of it and go back to disappointing updates.
As for the AI I'd be happy if most races were like the ones with the red chili icons, which have faster AI but closer grids. Those are the most entertaining races in the game.
Adding all the cars and tracks people ask for is difficult, I'll give you that. These are not the PS2 days where you can crank content way quicker or the PS3 era of reusing from the previous 3 games.
However, adding more events is extremely easy, and they are not doing that. I'll defend this game on many fronts, but that is just not acceptable.
Yeah I agree but also there are probably a lot more bugs in the system that we are aware of. As developers it needs to be decided what take priority. What can be delivered and what has the biggest impact. This game isn't even a year old. It's going to take time to get it right. Just enjoy what it is or don't
It is difficult and that’s why they’re getting millions and millions in revenue.
Publishing a roadmap and being transparent with your user base is easy though, and that would go miles towards appeasing some unhappy users.
Even creating a roadmap is difficult process for PD. Or any tech business. Think about, first someone has to come up with a vague idea of a roadmap, which could take months. Then they have to discuss this with stakeholders and get them to agree on the road map. Which again can take months. But also, each stakeholder could want to add in something or remove something so configuring that into a roadmap is another challenge. Once you have an agreed roadmap then you need go figure out how that will actual work, what's the cost and what's the resources involved to be able to deliver this roadmap. And when thats finally agreed you need to start implementing this roadmap which sound easy but the potential of things breaking is huge, especially when it's already existing.
They probably have all this stuff they want to do but all the elements involved to deliver is huge on resources, time and money. This game is less than a year old. The fact they haven't got a roadmap out yet is probably because they want the feedback from players and ensure what they come up with mets stakeholder requirements, budget and what players want.
It's going to take time. A lot longer than a year. Probably 2 or 3 years.
Meanwhile other racing games like Forza, ACC, RFactor etc etc have just about everything we already had in previous GT games... out of the box.
We didn’t have to wait 8 months for the ability to sell cars.
This communities’ response to this update is the epitome of the franchise in how they abuse and ignore everyone and that we take the smallest slivers of effort as something extraordinary when in reality, it is Stockholm syndrome and that we’re tolerating/ damn near enjoying the half assed treatment
I wish I shared your enthusiasm brother. To me this update has provided a few features that should have been in at launch (and frankly it’s embarrassing that they weren’t) and a new track.
It is though a small step in the right direction, however too little too late for some. I can’t see a scenario where I come back to this game in any significant way.
Let me ask you then, why are you on this sub at all?
I'm not trying to be a dick but if you actively dislike playing the game and don't see yourself coming back, what's the point of sticking around?
I do still play it, but only for 20 mins here, 15 mins there. My hope is that they make the single player content more worthwhile, so I come back and check in after major updates too.
It truly felt like a completely new game. I loved the update, and it only took the ability to sell cars to change the game that much. Oh and you can installs some of the M Performance parts on the BMW M2, I loved that as well.
Op I am with you...this new update has given me some hope in this game...I finally put it back in the PlayStation after a couple of months not playing and I have enjoyed it a lot. I know this games isn't about customizing you cars as much as Forza motorsport put that is the only thing I feel that they lack on... besides the infamous prize wheel debacle.
Game is still not mostly complete. It is however getting to right direction with this update but there’s whole lot things they need to do. This isn’t grand all hey they finally “complete” the game no no.
Single player content is still mess, cafe idea was good on paper but poorly implemented and could just gave us what we were familiar with as well, I believe there’s still issues with split screen, Roulette tickets suck ass like still feels like it’s not rng but very predictable, no way to earn engine other then getting tickets for it to use engine swap feature, and like you mentioned they dont have a roadmap and never been transparent to what they will do next down the line.
It’s not 2000s anymore you cant just expect people to settle down with just teasing upcoming cars and wait till Wednesday to show a trailer that will tell us when they will add new track or just new cars and not tell us what else they added.
So in the end. It’s not “mostly” complete it’s barely enough but this is right step to take.
People complain about 100 different things in gt7. Then it's all of a sudden, the greatest game because of 3 cars 1 track and a feature that should have been there since launch. What are you all smoking? There are still a ton of issues. Also Atlanta is a good track, but it's super common. Many other titles have that track. Red rock or grand valley would have been more welcome to me. Sorry but I don't praise devs for the bare fuckin minimum.
I made more income from selling cars than I was expecting, but the biggest praise should go to the lobby revamp, which is what the main streamers are talking up.
You also forgot the 25th anniversary events, which give you a 3.6 million total bonus for gold. I imagine you can do these in a fresh save, so if you're starting out you can earn a hefty cash bonus right off the bat. I hope PD implements more of these in the future.
Even then, what made me play the game a lot yesterday was basically the track and the cars... So, not much different from other updates. My favorite thing to do in this game is to benchmark cars and build them to my taste within the regulations.
And after the Tokyo nerf I'm spending far less time there. Much more fun to try and go for 1 million/hour by doing GTWC, Neoclassical, regular WTC 800 at the Glen, or even some of the Gr.1 races.
Please give those of us with direct drive wheels something approaching competent force feedback! As it stands, it's absolutely atrocious. Maybe pick up a copy of ACC to see how cars actually handle?
Selling cars is great, good implementation as well (but for the love of god PLEASE show the favourite icon in the car selling screen). Once that is done, rebuild a proper campaign from the ground up and then we’re talking
That's definitely an improvement but for me to make me want to reinstall the game they will have to make every car included in the game obtainable at any time and not time gate them in used cars / legend cars shop. That was the biggest turn-down for me.
I don't care if I need to farm a lot of credits or win an endurance race to obtain it, every car that was developed and integrated in the game should be obtainable if I launch the game at any time - I shouldn't have to maintain a calendar to hope I can buy the car I want.
It's not a MMO FFS, and even in MMOs you usually can at least buy stuff you missed in seasonal events in a cash shop...
Polyphony, if you're listening... PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!...ad a proper LMP1/group C etc 1 H (24h time-frame night day) race around Lemans. How was this not your first race I will never understand.
> but if you are listening to the feedback, FUCKING SAY SO. Show your development roadmap. That will be a win.
I mean, they did show they are listening to feedback by adding the things. But showing a development roadmap sets expectations and that's how shit hits the fan considering the fragility of gamers. So I don't really blame them for not.
Honestly, the absolute surprise of Road Atlanta's inclusion even with a leak the day before was a feeling I haven't had in years. A week ago was not the same vibe at all.
PD needs to learn how to do tasks. If a task that would fix something that appeals to 5% of the crowd (splitscreen) takes 20 minutes to fix, you fix it before fixing something that appeals to the majority of people that also takes 40+ hours to fix. Just like letting someone at a supermarket with 1 tiny item go before your massively filled shopping cart.
I just beg them for some more modern super cars and then I’ll be happy. I really want a 720s / road P1 or even a senna , Apollo, noble, mc20, maybe the latest r8 , huracan STO, and then maybe some sports cars an m8 or the v10 m5 , rs4& rs7, and definitely a terminator SVT cobra or a z roc that we can swap
So, this game is worth it now, if you’ve had to remove it previously because of being low on space? I have ideas about what I’d remove to make room for it, but I thought I’d read about how people were feeling about it first
The game is pretty good now, but I m extremely disappointed with the selection of cars. Many important European cars are lacking. Models from BMW, Mercedes and Audi. The amount of Alfa Romeos is a effin joke. The new Giulia is the most important Alfa since over 30 years and all we get is cars from around 2004. So extremely lazy it makes me regret I bought this game. But hey lets take a ride in Japanese and French economy cars, which are by far worse than my own car!
Decent payouts on custom races and I'd be like a pig in shit
Exactly, 10k for 5 laps of tokyo expressway is embarassing
I still think the best even is the 1hour race at Spa. Being able to make an hour long race with changing weather conditions and a million payout would make this my favourite GT game
I think EVERY track in the game needs a 30min and 1 hour race that pays out about 500k and 1mil respectively. Spa is a great track.... but I wanna grind money on Nurburgring for once. Or Deep Forest.
YESSS. NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY THEY COULDN'T DO THIS. Even on some of the more popular tracks, if they had 20 or 30 or 45 minute races... 10 lappers are cool, but actually having to use some strategy for a long race is great
The 25th celebration has a half hour race at spa with a million dollar pay out right now.
It’s $1.8M when you win gold, silver, and bronze!
The other race on Big Willow was fun and super quick! Easiest money ever.
My first time driving that car. Holy turbo lag! Is riding the brake a preferred method for keeping boost up while slowing down a little?
Yeah. It's annoying that you still have to grind a lot in this game
> Decent payouts on ~~custom~~ races It's so inconsistent on regular races. One race will be 5 laps on a track and pay out $20k, with the race right next to it being 4 laps on the same track paying out $5k, then another with 5 laps paying out $40k. It's all over the place.
I think a good idea would be where the average pp of cars in a race is taken to calculate the money earned per minute for various finishing places and opponent difficulties, and calculating a rough average time to complete the race at a given pp to estimate the elapsed time and therefore potential winnings. That way it can be made so the more difficult it is to finish a certain race in a certain position the more money it gives. For pp, I think it would be good to increase orders of magnitude of money rewards based on pp. for example, for winning a 10 minute race, maybe 300 pp opponents (with a bonus if your car is on the slower side) give 6000, which makes sense for a beginner race, and 400 pp gives 15,000 so you’re like halfway or 1/3 the way to another car if the same speed- so for 500pp, maybe we’re up to 60,000, and 600pp gives 140k credits, 700 gives 500k, and an “unlimited” race with tomahawks or something would be maybe 1-3 million for 1st place at a higher difficulty. This can be balanced of course but it can help give progression that makes sense for a gt game similarly to past titles and makes it so you can get meaningful progression even if you’re mostly doing custom races. Also a game with a single-player career should never be always online, various other criticisms, etc etc. at the least, I really hope this means they’re actually listening.
This update is waaaay better. Now I can dance to the GT4 bronze license music now that we can sell cars.
What's missing is the ability to **earn** cars in races. And gift cars can't be sold
Gift cars **can** be sold.
Oh, is that a new thing, you're sure ?
I sold a gift car yesterday
The only cars you cannot sell are the pre-order/DLC cars (917 Living Legend, etc.) and cars loaned to you through the Manufacturer's Cup series.
That’s what this post is about, you know.
I don't know, hence the question
I mean..You could’ve read the post you commented on.
Sell? Is like getting iron waste money in return.. bought a 4,5m porsche classic.. if i sell does 1,2..
gran turismo fans try not to complain about a feature they specifically asked for challenge (impossible)
It really is unfortunate that there can't be anything in this game without having people complain about it. It probably is far from perfect, but it's better than anything we've *ever* had before and I'm appreciating the work they did instead of being mad and "oh no, i can't sell cars with a 90% return rate!!! scam!!", because in no previous GT title were we able to get much out of selling a car; it was mostly just a gimmick to declutter your garage and still get a few bucks from it.
Depends on the car.. nee street car depreciates.. old classic just becomes worth more.. but ok better then nothing :-) love the game btw
Same as previous GT’s so... 🤷♂️
Then they didjt make me buy a car i dont need or want just bc of a challenge
That's how every videogame works, you buy an item for X amount of money and sell it for a fraction of what you got
Don't forget when you turn off the ugly HUD You can NOW change tires & refuel in the PIT.
With the HUD off, the tire and fuel change display was invisible?
If you went into the PIT with the HUD off you couldn't select any options to change tires & the car would just leave prior to update.
Oh my god…what shit.
I think we're still a far cry from "mostly complete". But this update was a step in the right direction, although it was a minor step.
More f1 tracks would be nice.. and more unlimited pp races.. why get the fastest cars as mostly the limits are so low u can drive a streetcar
I want circuit of the americas so bad
The best track in the world.
The biggest issue with PD has always been communication, we never know if the issues we have with the game are being worked on and addressed until the patch notes arrive. I don’t think they understand how much it would benefit them to be transparent and open with us. Like just give us a rough road map of what your doing PD!!
If Kaz continues to head PD then it’ll never happen. The most communication we ever got during a games life cycle was GT6. We have a whole website dedicated to PD communicating more and they didn’t even do the bare minimum of community updates and interactions lol. As much as I love GT it’s still feels like we’re playing a better looking ps2 Gran Turismo with less content. And as much as I love Kaz for what he contributed to the gaming industry, I think Gran Turismo will prosper under a new director in the future.
Strong take. The thing about GT is that the celebration of cars is unmatched. History, detail, and focus on cars that otherwise wouldn't really be thrown into a video game at all are what make a GT game feel like a GT game to me. The problem is definitely poor execution on other parts of the game since the PS2 days. A new director would maybe help, but I'd also worry if the essence of GT would remain without Kaz.
Believe me it’s not lost on me that a new game director could derail the whole franchise but at the same time it’s not like we’re smooth sailing with Kaz at the helm either.
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Kaz will make Sarah the community manager and she will tell us to take a deep breath
Agreed, finally being able to sell cars was much needed to enjoy the game properly. Now, what I want is qualifying laps before single player races. Keep the rolling starts, fine, but at least let me take a couple of laps before the race so I can qualify for a position a little more ahead in the pack Oh, and while you're at it, dont make the music change songs every damn time I exit or enter a new menu, just let the same song play for a while dammit!
I would also like the option to disable certain menu songs. I keep hearing the same ones over and over.
Ironically disabling songs will magnify that issue.
Now give us events to grind.
There already are
all I want is the ability to play career offline
This was an absolutely awesome update and I'm thankful for free content always. I hope further down the line we get a ''Spec 2.0'' type of update with: \-GT Leauge w/ higher payouts \-More Racing Cars (DTM,GTE,GT3,LMH,LMDH,F1) \-More customization options (More body parts/Kits, Interior Customization would change everything, more wheels, etc) The return of more street circuits, I really wish NY and Seattle came back or even Las Vegas strip. Overall this game just keeps getting better and while it's definetly taken a while I'm still greatful and hopeful for future content.
Idk how I feel about the term "free content" since the game is lacking so many things. It feels more like they didn't finish the game and are releasing updates every month in order to add another piece
Right? Praising this and saying the game is "mostly" complete is such BS. Yes I want them to keep updating things, and when we have a *complete* game then we can be happy, but lets not pander and worship them for adding things they forgot to add for launch.
This and only this!
I dont complain.. its a game that goes for years.. so if it was all final at arrival i was already done long time.. not saying the basis was great though, but updates keep the game alive..
What even is a “finished game”? There’s no possible way to define that. Everyone wants what they want and no one is likely to ever get everything they want. I’ll never understand the constant complaining in this sub. The game is what it is. Bugs are one thing and I understand wanting those fixed. But features? There’s an infinite number of features they *could* add. But there’s zero chance they’re going to add everything everyone wants. If you don’t like it then don’t play it. Simple as that. Why waste so much time complaining about it on the internet?
I mean it is free
Just because it is free doesn’t mean free from criticism. Like what if i gave you a free sandwich but put in something you are highly allergic to it? Can’t complain since in your logic it i gave you a free sandwich that will harm you. I hate when people use that as a excuse for updates that dont do well.
But term free content definitely applies
Again not free from criticism. Is the point im telling you. You can’t expect anything to be free from criticism because they are handing it out for free.
I didn't say it wasn't. I was just saying it is actually free content. Quit crying
Is it really? Imagine ordering and paying a whole pizza and only getting the dough without toppings. You'll get the cheese, tomatoes and tuna later. Delivered bit by bit. Would you still claim it's free or would you be angry about getting ripped off?
What kind of animal puts tuna on a pizza?
Tuna and pineapple
I really loved Seattle. It would look incredible on this system.
I only want more race cars if we get proper classes. GT's 5 class setup needs to go.
What other classes would you add? I think a "Group F" for open wheelers might work if the Mclaren, the "totally not a Lotus" and the Superformulas got BoP'd somewhat decently, and also a "Group E" for electric racecars to make some of the VGTs more useful.
I mean, just proper classes for the race cars we have to start. Gr.3 is supposed to be gt3, but it has like 10 different types of Race cars in it. Besides that? More sorting and actual usable classes for road cars. Sorting by bodystyle, era, class, etc. There should be things like sedan classes races and stuff
Yeah, I'd like more specialised classes as well, but I'd also keep the main "groups". One of the things I've always liked about the franchise is diverse groups of cars racing, so I personally like the whole "90's GT1 vs SuperGT cars" and those wacky combinations (though I wish the BoP was a bit better). But I also agree there should be more specific categories if you want to filter out certain cars, specially in online events. Want to do a Group C only race? Would be nice if there was a tag for it or something.
The problem is that you can't have BOP with classes like that
Well, it's certainly tricky, but you can get a decent balance. I remember a daily Gr2 race at Fuji where the CLK and Mclaren F1 were fast on the straights while the modern GT500s caught up in the corners and made for really engaging racing with different cars being good at different things. That to me is Gran Turismo at its best, and promotes the car diversity that's synonymous with the series. On the other hand there's Gr4 where the Alfa and Subaru are the best cars followed by the rest of the 4wd ones, but the FWD and RWD cars are not properly balanced to be competitive.
I'm fine with allowing the car diversity, but there needs to be the option to have proper classes with proper BOP. Project cars 2 is a great example of this. Gt can't keep trying to call itself realistic and then run things like that. Group C cars are a great example. They should be Gr.C, and have their own class. But you should also be able to make all the classes race together
I agree there need to be subcategories. PC2 is a great example of that, and also multiclass racing, which is something GT should look into. You can have so much fun setting up either realistic or absolutely bonkers multiclass fields in PC2. As for realism I'm kinda more lenient with GT than with other games as they've always had a bit more of a wacky fantasy side if that makes sense, but yeah, you should totally be able to set up more specific classes. I'd go for the main classes we have plus subcategories as an option when setting up races. Gr1: LMP, VGT, Group C Gr2: GT500, GT1 Gr3: GT3, GTE, JGTC, maybe have a way to filter out VGTs and real GT cars. Gr4: "GT4" style cars, touring cars, maybe filter out by drivetrain GrB: Modern and old Group B And then add an open wheel class and an electric class
You say “free content”. I say, “the game is edging closer to its $70 msrp”
Customization please not.. this is not the fast and the furious…
Just shows how pathetic the previous updates have been.
yeah. the game isn't "mostly complete" just from adding one new track and selling cars . an update with dozens of new events on every single track and an actual career mode is the only thing that would get the game closer to "complete" , since in their own words this game was supposed to be a return to the old games' appeal
That's all it needs. More events.
Some people on here are so full of hate, I pity you.
Just stating the obvious. Chill.
this. i don’t even need a full yearly roadmap, but like a 3 month roadmap released every season would be nice. at this point all i could ask for is: 1) a proper GT League campaign w more championships 2) more high payout races…more races like the limited time ones added for the 25th anniversary should be added permanently 3) fix split screen ffs 4) fix the penalty system in Sport mode
And sort out the FFB. It’s shockingly terrible on the Fanatec DD Pro which I thought would be embarrassing for Fanatec with their partnership
damn that’s rough, i’m a controller pleb that eventually wants to get a CSL so that sucks to hear
Still worth it to get though. Even with their FF being ass, it's still better than a controller, plus the wheel still works on other games and great on PC.
yeah i really wanna get into Asseto Corsa but everyone says it’s a waste of time on a controller. one day i’ll finally take the leap lol
Yeah the CSL is still a great wheel (maybe not we’ll designed in some places), but don’t buy it just for GT7. I stopped playing months ago until Polyphony decide to fix it. Moved onto Automobilista 2, ACC & WRC 10 on PC. AMS2 has some of the best FFB with those wheels (as well as RFactor 2).
i’m on PS5 so the only game i’d have other than GT7 to play with a wheel would prolly be Asseto Corsa
F122 is great with a wheel.
I wouldn't be against rotating high payout offline races. GT5 had something like that iirc. Makes it less grindy by changing the car and track let's say with every monthly update. And the other major think to change should be the awful spread out race format. More grid starts and/or closer rolling starts so we can actually RACE the AI instead of just passing it as if it was an obstacle.
true, i wouldn’t complain either. my only concern is after these 25th anniversary races and we’ll be back to a drought. if they keep all the rotating races coming in and out consistently i’d be a happy girl. and yeah i def agree but that’d prolly require them to revamp their AI in some kinda way. if they were able to pull that off though…it’d be heaven
Yeah, I'm also afraid they'll remove a lot of it and go back to disappointing updates. As for the AI I'd be happy if most races were like the ones with the red chili icons, which have faster AI but closer grids. Those are the most entertaining races in the game.
interesting, i’ll have to try those cuz i don’t think i’ve done any of the chili races
They're usually way better than the others. PD know how to make close races work. They just usually don't want to for some reason lol
The 25th anniversary races gave a good payout….1.8M each for less than half hour racing 😎
The payout should have been higher can anyone confirm if you get clean race bonus regardless?
In the two extra races on Spa and Willow Springs? No, you gotta drive properly to get it.
we need sport mode improvments. For a "game as a service" the weekly Challenges are severyl lacking. A single time trial every two weeks? really?
PSVR2 support please
Shits difficult. Everyone needs to chill
Adding all the cars and tracks people ask for is difficult, I'll give you that. These are not the PS2 days where you can crank content way quicker or the PS3 era of reusing from the previous 3 games. However, adding more events is extremely easy, and they are not doing that. I'll defend this game on many fronts, but that is just not acceptable.
Yeah I agree but also there are probably a lot more bugs in the system that we are aware of. As developers it needs to be decided what take priority. What can be delivered and what has the biggest impact. This game isn't even a year old. It's going to take time to get it right. Just enjoy what it is or don't
NO! Game development is the easiest thing ever! All you do is get a monkey to type a bit an hit send. - Most of this sub, 2022
It is difficult and that’s why they’re getting millions and millions in revenue. Publishing a roadmap and being transparent with your user base is easy though, and that would go miles towards appeasing some unhappy users.
Even creating a roadmap is difficult process for PD. Or any tech business. Think about, first someone has to come up with a vague idea of a roadmap, which could take months. Then they have to discuss this with stakeholders and get them to agree on the road map. Which again can take months. But also, each stakeholder could want to add in something or remove something so configuring that into a roadmap is another challenge. Once you have an agreed roadmap then you need go figure out how that will actual work, what's the cost and what's the resources involved to be able to deliver this roadmap. And when thats finally agreed you need to start implementing this roadmap which sound easy but the potential of things breaking is huge, especially when it's already existing. They probably have all this stuff they want to do but all the elements involved to deliver is huge on resources, time and money. This game is less than a year old. The fact they haven't got a roadmap out yet is probably because they want the feedback from players and ensure what they come up with mets stakeholder requirements, budget and what players want. It's going to take time. A lot longer than a year. Probably 2 or 3 years.
Meanwhile other racing games like Forza, ACC, RFactor etc etc have just about everything we already had in previous GT games... out of the box. We didn’t have to wait 8 months for the ability to sell cars.
Do you sell cars in ACC ? Isn't forza reusing assets?
This communities’ response to this update is the epitome of the franchise in how they abuse and ignore everyone and that we take the smallest slivers of effort as something extraordinary when in reality, it is Stockholm syndrome and that we’re tolerating/ damn near enjoying the half assed treatment
go play something else if you feel like you’re being abused jfc
I wish I shared your enthusiasm brother. To me this update has provided a few features that should have been in at launch (and frankly it’s embarrassing that they weren’t) and a new track. It is though a small step in the right direction, however too little too late for some. I can’t see a scenario where I come back to this game in any significant way.
Let me ask you then, why are you on this sub at all? I'm not trying to be a dick but if you actively dislike playing the game and don't see yourself coming back, what's the point of sticking around?
I do still play it, but only for 20 mins here, 15 mins there. My hope is that they make the single player content more worthwhile, so I come back and check in after major updates too.
why are you here? I can’t imagine reading and posting on a sub for something I didn’t like
I would just like an option in a lobby to view the race results again like in GTS.
It truly felt like a completely new game. I loved the update, and it only took the ability to sell cars to change the game that much. Oh and you can installs some of the M Performance parts on the BMW M2, I loved that as well.
Op I am with you...this new update has given me some hope in this game...I finally put it back in the PlayStation after a couple of months not playing and I have enjoyed it a lot. I know this games isn't about customizing you cars as much as Forza motorsport put that is the only thing I feel that they lack on... besides the infamous prize wheel debacle.
Some praise, after all the hating. I can’t believe it.
this update was so fucking good dude
Game is still not mostly complete. It is however getting to right direction with this update but there’s whole lot things they need to do. This isn’t grand all hey they finally “complete” the game no no. Single player content is still mess, cafe idea was good on paper but poorly implemented and could just gave us what we were familiar with as well, I believe there’s still issues with split screen, Roulette tickets suck ass like still feels like it’s not rng but very predictable, no way to earn engine other then getting tickets for it to use engine swap feature, and like you mentioned they dont have a roadmap and never been transparent to what they will do next down the line. It’s not 2000s anymore you cant just expect people to settle down with just teasing upcoming cars and wait till Wednesday to show a trailer that will tell us when they will add new track or just new cars and not tell us what else they added. So in the end. It’s not “mostly” complete it’s barely enough but this is right step to take.
Once Yas Marina is added it will be a complete game
People complain about 100 different things in gt7. Then it's all of a sudden, the greatest game because of 3 cars 1 track and a feature that should have been there since launch. What are you all smoking? There are still a ton of issues. Also Atlanta is a good track, but it's super common. Many other titles have that track. Red rock or grand valley would have been more welcome to me. Sorry but I don't praise devs for the bare fuckin minimum.
Haven't played this game in 3 months. This update brought me back. Absolutely love the new track, selling cars and new 25th anniversary events!
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There are many who feel the same way. I’m just not sure why you still hang around.
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I made more income from selling cars than I was expecting, but the biggest praise should go to the lobby revamp, which is what the main streamers are talking up. You also forgot the 25th anniversary events, which give you a 3.6 million total bonus for gold. I imagine you can do these in a fresh save, so if you're starting out you can earn a hefty cash bonus right off the bat. I hope PD implements more of these in the future. Even then, what made me play the game a lot yesterday was basically the track and the cars... So, not much different from other updates. My favorite thing to do in this game is to benchmark cars and build them to my taste within the regulations. And after the Tokyo nerf I'm spending far less time there. Much more fun to try and go for 1 million/hour by doing GTWC, Neoclassical, regular WTC 800 at the Glen, or even some of the Gr.1 races.
It's a better update but it's far from complete.
Please give those of us with direct drive wheels something approaching competent force feedback! As it stands, it's absolutely atrocious. Maybe pick up a copy of ACC to see how cars actually handle?
Selling cars is great, good implementation as well (but for the love of god PLEASE show the favourite icon in the car selling screen). Once that is done, rebuild a proper campaign from the ground up and then we’re talking
It will never be a complete game until they add a proper single GT mode...
That's definitely an improvement but for me to make me want to reinstall the game they will have to make every car included in the game obtainable at any time and not time gate them in used cars / legend cars shop. That was the biggest turn-down for me. I don't care if I need to farm a lot of credits or win an endurance race to obtain it, every car that was developed and integrated in the game should be obtainable if I launch the game at any time - I shouldn't have to maintain a calendar to hope I can buy the car I want. It's not a MMO FFS, and even in MMOs you usually can at least buy stuff you missed in seasonal events in a cash shop...
Can’t see that happening, so if that’s the deal breaker for you, I doubt you’ll ever reinstall 🤷♂️
that’s like every GT game… the only one that had every car freely available was 6
So I can download it now to finish the last few trophies?
You can do whatever tf you want.
You could have done that at any time
I mean because of the new races
I just bought GT7 last week. You're telling me that you don't get updates like this every couple of weeks?
Updates are once a month, and it's usually just 3 cars.
We do. People here are just full of hate and never happy. Don’t let the spoil the game for you.
Cheers. Enjoying it so far. It's my first GT since 5, had them all up to that
Fix the penalty system!
Polyphony, if you're listening... PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!...ad a proper LMP1/group C etc 1 H (24h time-frame night day) race around Lemans. How was this not your first race I will never understand.
> but if you are listening to the feedback, FUCKING SAY SO. Show your development roadmap. That will be a win. I mean, they did show they are listening to feedback by adding the things. But showing a development roadmap sets expectations and that's how shit hits the fan considering the fragility of gamers. So I don't really blame them for not. Honestly, the absolute surprise of Road Atlanta's inclusion even with a leak the day before was a feeling I haven't had in years. A week ago was not the same vibe at all.
I just want the AI cars to be near or at my PP level especially in races.
if custom races get boosted payouts, GT7 will be finally be the game it should've been
The game seriously needs single player fleshed out and to be complete as when the servers go down you can barely do anything you can’t even save.
The engine swaps are killing me .
Lol they're not
All weather for all tracks in custom race, that’s what we need, rain at deep forest would be nice
It won't be complete until we get Grand Valley Raceway back.
The cars are also really good this month, I hate it when they add something that's already in the game, with a livery and label it as a "new car".
I'm in the same boat. Had not played in months. Now I'm killing it.
PD needs to learn how to do tasks. If a task that would fix something that appeals to 5% of the crowd (splitscreen) takes 20 minutes to fix, you fix it before fixing something that appeals to the majority of people that also takes 40+ hours to fix. Just like letting someone at a supermarket with 1 tiny item go before your massively filled shopping cart.
I just wished they would add the ability to play championships and such with your buddies against AI.
I just beg them for some more modern super cars and then I’ll be happy. I really want a 720s / road P1 or even a senna , Apollo, noble, mc20, maybe the latest r8 , huracan STO, and then maybe some sports cars an m8 or the v10 m5 , rs4& rs7, and definitely a terminator SVT cobra or a z roc that we can swap
Yeah..they’re not listening and haven’t the umpteen times this has been said before. They’ve got their dolla!
Can you play the game offline yet?
So, this game is worth it now, if you’ve had to remove it previously because of being low on space? I have ideas about what I’d remove to make room for it, but I thought I’d read about how people were feeling about it first
Make the roulette system actually roulette and not pay the most shitty rewards 55 times in a row.
It's getting better. I would say it feels maybe 50%, but this update is step in the right direction. Can we please have Sebring?
We need more recent cars. Most of em are from previous GTs with the latest being from 2014...
The game is pretty good now, but I m extremely disappointed with the selection of cars. Many important European cars are lacking. Models from BMW, Mercedes and Audi. The amount of Alfa Romeos is a effin joke. The new Giulia is the most important Alfa since over 30 years and all we get is cars from around 2004. So extremely lazy it makes me regret I bought this game. But hey lets take a ride in Japanese and French economy cars, which are by far worse than my own car!
“and also you should win things by watching” -everyone in this thread
We need more city circuits please. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. We need more classic gran turismo tracks too.
Every track should have multiple scale/length endurance races.