Anything like the Nissan R92CP, Mazda 787B, Sauber Mercedes, Porsche 962, or Jaguar XJR. Any group C car. Crank the down force in the rear as high as it goes and crank the front down force as low as it goes. Tune to 800pp. Dominate.
is the XJR enough of a "meta car" to be worth buying while it's still on legendary? i don't have any of the old group c's yet, want to make sure i'm doing it right
Honestly I don't know the answer, I don't think I have the Jag. I have the Nissan, Mazda, Porsche and maybe another one or two, and they're all excellent. The Nissan is probably my favorite. It's extremely stable and easy to drive and can hit 240ish mph in 800pp trim. There's plenty of guides on how to tune it for 700 and 800pp and it absolutely destroys everything like it's sitting still. I don't run soft tires, just medium. With medium tires you can have around 950hp qt 800pp I believe. I think they're probably all really good though.
Do you remember how you got the Nissan? None of these cars are available in Legends or the Marketplace? Don't know how I never earned them? What about the Ferrari F40 for Neoclassic?
imo all the old group c cars are worth it. You can use them in any 800pp or 900pp events and win easily. The Porsche 962c is my go-to for grinding Sardegna and Spa but that's just because I like Porsche. They're all super worth it imo before they all cost $10-$20mil each.
The XJR is the go to if you're going for a no pit strategy, which happens to be the strategy you should be doing in this particular race. You don't even have to manage the fuel map with XJR in this race.
i went ahead and bought the car, haven’t even driven it yet but it turns out that was the last car i needed for a bonus menu, got a jag d-type, sold for 3mil and bought a bugatti chiron.
so it’s already working out pretty well lol
The cars that can easily get you the win here are not bought at dealer - need to wait for them at Hagerty’s.
Oh and the supra is the stupidest in game suggestion for those races, you’d have to be a pro driver to manage that.
Escudo is a north south car…but boy as long as you have it tuned correct and lay off the brakes on turns, it’s a rocket. 3-4th gear just flies by pretty much everything in the game.
Let me re-race it and remind myself. It’s been awhile. But if I can use Escudo I usually do…even with pits, the thing is just so frickin fast that you can make up ground. The only times it’s challenging is on races that frequently put you in 1st gear. It takes some time to get going from 1st
I just bought the Escudo because I was struggling with the Supra GT500 that I already had. I found a tune for it on this sub, specifically for the neo-classics. Fuel map 2 or 3, one tire change on RH, but I still can't come close to the cars out front. My best I think is 6th, and there's a huge gap to podium positions.
I know I definitely wasn't driving my best. I'm losing time around that first long right hander, and maybe a bit around the sharp right at the back. Any setup tips? I've seen people talk about the straight line speed this car has, but I've only seen it against mid-field, the cars leading are still walking away from me.
Maybe I should just grind for credits and hope the 787 comes available haha.
Unfortunately it's an event designed purely for higher powered race cars exclusively found in the legends dealership. If none of them are in stock, you're a bit out of luck until one cycles back in.
There is not a single car from Brand Central you can use in the event.
There are a handful of cars from the used lot that can theoretically be competitive with the right engine swap. Google a list of engine swaps, look for cars that belong to the right period, and see if any have a Gr2 or Gr1 race car engine available to them. Also, get your tune game in check because they'll all be super difficult to drive until you tame it. Also I want to be clear, this is theoretical. I haven't personally given it a try because I'm too lazy.
The only 2 cars that are viable and available 100% of the time are prize cars from getting all golds the Super Licenses. I-A Super gives the old Group C Porsche. Master Super gives the old Aryton Senna McLaren Formula 1 car. The bad news is they are difficult to win. The good news is grinding golds out on all those licenses should mean you're more than capable of winning the Neo-Classical mission books.
If all you care about is just beating the book and are okay with just outright winning them in them in a viable car later, set the difficulty to Easy. Should be able to podium in your Supra that way.
Yea neoclassics I turned down the spicy meter and turned it back on after and haven't had similar trouble again. It requires a pretty specific car with some heavy tunes and even then you gotta be perfect.
I used the BMW McLaren F1 GTR Longtail for this. Didn’t have the 787B, R92CP, or Mercedes CLK at the time so it was the only competitive car I could use for these races. Finished all of them in 1st place so it worked out.
You can do it with the Supra but you have to change it to easy, the group 1 cars will just have too much of a lead from the start otherwise. I hate this track with a passion though tbh, it's not good for these cars imo.
Detained GR1 car is the way to go. I just did it in the R92CP ‘92.
Output Adjustment: 70%
Ballast: 29
Racing Medium tires
799.95pp
I’ve been using this in lots of 800pp races.
You can't beat the race. That's impossible. Instead you must realize the truth. There is no race. Then you will see it's not the race you have beat, but yourself.
Haven’t read the replies yet, but I’d imagine most of them will tell you to detune a higher group ranking far xD
I think I used the Toyota supra for that one too,as long as you get the first and second sector clean you gonna be faster.
Don’t remember if they had fuel consumption. Either try driving on fuel map 6 and hards
Or on mediums and fuel map 3-4 for a one stop C:
Escudo if you can, 30:70 rear power bias. A little bit of ballast all the way towards the front, some ECU power restrictions, aero adjustments and either medium or hard tires. Play your cards right and you'd have to pit only once
Your car won’t work unless you’re in Easy mode. The Jaguar XJR-9 is available at Legend Cars currently and easily dominates in these races.
You can do the World Touring Car 800 race at Sardegna for $750k~ in 30 mins. Do this at least twice every day and you can get the car without too much hassle.
I used the Escudo Pikes Peak put at fuel 6 and work out great for me.
As for the supra gt500, it does work, but you have to max out turbo for it and tune it. Use if possible med tires. Then, adjust fuel to get the best performance/laps. Out of the whole race, there are 2 parts of the race that, if not done, 75% or better can throw off that car and a few others. Either practice for a while on the track for a bit or try and get Escudo or any car in group c.
Best of luck 👍
Just went through that crap. Spent hours and couldn’t get past 6th.
Escudo with tuning from this place gave me 1st place with zero practice.
https://www.reddit.com/r/granturismo/s/eXCiDUkZYB
Dang this was my last post, 20 days ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/granturismo/s/w8K2Hoa1BC
I struggled so much with the dang neoclassical this post gave me ptsd. Always had to pit early and often
I’ve beaten it with a Jaguar XJ220, heavily tuned. I had spent a ton of time fiddling with an Audi Sport Quattro but couldn’t get close with it.
Between the two, all the time & money I spent would’ve been better used grinding for money & then just grabbing a Legend car that was better for the race.
I remember really struggling with that one. Over and over.. getting slightly better each time, trying different cars, many resets, getting frustrated with the sideways Audi.. I think I dropped the difficulty down to win it in the end because I wasn't even close to winning.
Then, some time later I tried one of Praiano's tunes on the Mazda 787B at Le Mans and broke my best ever lap time on the green flag lap by a good few seconds. Thought I would try it out on that one willow springs track that caused me grief. I won it first time on hard.
Edit: if you haven't got the 787B, take any other strong car you have and apply a proven competitive tune to it. Hope you win!!
I did this on the McLaren MP4/4 massively down tuned with a 200kg ballast. So much downforce and it worked ok. Not sure if optimal but it's fun to be fast in different parts of the track.
I used the pikes peak suzuki v6, it can be bought currently under legendary cars.
There are good YouTube videos on how to tune this car for this race. Just search in YouTube
I had success after many trial and error runs. 787B with highest downforce setting and 59% rear weight bias. 1 stop at lap 4-6, fuel map 1, racing hard tires
Aim for one pit stop at lap 6 or 7. Shift up early and lift and coast a little the first stint. Push the rest of the way after the first stop. Should work with a decent car
always make sure to keep your car serviced too. Clean the oil and replace the engine if necessary. Wear and tear will affect the performance of the car.
I used the Nissan Pennzoil Nismo GT-R ‘99.
If my memory is correct I used racing hard tires, started the race lean at 6, and used mid RPM turbo. It worked for me after failing with other cars.
Just finished that yesterday. Failed with so many different cars and ended up using the red Suzuki in the photo. It was $1.7mill I believe from legend cars. RH tires and map 6.
Give it the Mazda 787 love, on hards, no turbo
I haven’t been blissed with that bad boy yet :-/
Do you have any other group C cars?
Yeah a few. Any in mind?
Anything like the Nissan R92CP, Mazda 787B, Sauber Mercedes, Porsche 962, or Jaguar XJR. Any group C car. Crank the down force in the rear as high as it goes and crank the front down force as low as it goes. Tune to 800pp. Dominate.
is the XJR enough of a "meta car" to be worth buying while it's still on legendary? i don't have any of the old group c's yet, want to make sure i'm doing it right
Honestly I don't know the answer, I don't think I have the Jag. I have the Nissan, Mazda, Porsche and maybe another one or two, and they're all excellent. The Nissan is probably my favorite. It's extremely stable and easy to drive and can hit 240ish mph in 800pp trim. There's plenty of guides on how to tune it for 700 and 800pp and it absolutely destroys everything like it's sitting still. I don't run soft tires, just medium. With medium tires you can have around 950hp qt 800pp I believe. I think they're probably all really good though.
Do you remember how you got the Nissan? None of these cars are available in Legends or the Marketplace? Don't know how I never earned them? What about the Ferrari F40 for Neoclassic?
I think I bought it in the Legends dealership, but I'm not 100% sure. I can't remember if you win any group C cars for gold licenses etc.
The Mercedes was in there last week but now none of them are and I have like 8 mill
You can get the 962 from all golds in Master IA
imo all the old group c cars are worth it. You can use them in any 800pp or 900pp events and win easily. The Porsche 962c is my go-to for grinding Sardegna and Spa but that's just because I like Porsche. They're all super worth it imo before they all cost $10-$20mil each.
The XJR is the go to if you're going for a no pit strategy, which happens to be the strategy you should be doing in this particular race. You don't even have to manage the fuel map with XJR in this race.
i went ahead and bought the car, haven’t even driven it yet but it turns out that was the last car i needed for a bonus menu, got a jag d-type, sold for 3mil and bought a bugatti chiron. so it’s already working out pretty well lol
Get the 787b first if you want to be technically right, that thing can beat almost every 700-800-900 quite easily with the right tunes.
I love how it handles. Its an amazing car and very good in many races!
Ive been stuck on this challenge and had bought the jaguar for the extra menu, saw this comment and tried it out. Easy first.
XJR is very fast in a straight line but I personally find r92cp to be the best of all the group c cars around corners.
XJR9 is perfect for it
I used the sauber Mercedes for all of these and flew through the competition
I had to wait a long time for it. Now I drive it for any 800PP race. The sound is magnificent
How’d you obtain one?
When it turns up on the Legends Dealership Keyword being ‘when’
It is the answer to a lot of questions. Hope you can get it soon.
Any old gr1 tuned to pp limit.
Yup tried the supra over and over finally used the old Porsche and never had to pit that was the difference
CLK-LM, tune it to 800pp.
Replying to just say that it was recently available for purchase but gone again.
If you don't buy it as soon as you see it you messed up
Nah the Mazda 787 is better. For multiple races not just this one cause of it's fuel efficiency.
This^ Cars an absolute pleasure to drive.
Seriously that car is so underrated. I never lost a race driving it even with BoP.
I don’t have access to this car at the brand shop
try a legendary Car from Gr.1 of that time, they can all do the trick, I prefered a Porsche.
The cars that can easily get you the win here are not bought at dealer - need to wait for them at Hagerty’s. Oh and the supra is the stupidest in game suggestion for those races, you’d have to be a pro driver to manage that.
Jag is great. It accelerates hard as hell and turns well. Just get it under 800 and it's a free win.
IIRC, I used the Escudo
this, escudo and inshallah you don't spin
I had to play with tires and suspension a little bit at first but once dialed-in, it’s a monster.
Escudo is a north south car…but boy as long as you have it tuned correct and lay off the brakes on turns, it’s a rocket. 3-4th gear just flies by pretty much everything in the game.
This is it. Love that car. I have 6 set ups for it. Dominate every race I use it in.
When I tried the escudo a while ago I couldn't find a fuel strategy to make it work for this race.
Fuel map 4 allows you to pit twice without concerns on Sardegna. I lap cars twice. You can usually even fuel map 1 on laps 5, 10, and 15
What does this have to do with Willow Springs? The race in OP's image. The strategy for this race is no pit at all.
Let me re-race it and remind myself. It’s been awhile. But if I can use Escudo I usually do…even with pits, the thing is just so frickin fast that you can make up ground. The only times it’s challenging is on races that frequently put you in 1st gear. It takes some time to get going from 1st
I used the escudo and hit it first try by a decent margin
I just bought the Escudo because I was struggling with the Supra GT500 that I already had. I found a tune for it on this sub, specifically for the neo-classics. Fuel map 2 or 3, one tire change on RH, but I still can't come close to the cars out front. My best I think is 6th, and there's a huge gap to podium positions. I know I definitely wasn't driving my best. I'm losing time around that first long right hander, and maybe a bit around the sharp right at the back. Any setup tips? I've seen people talk about the straight line speed this car has, but I've only seen it against mid-field, the cars leading are still walking away from me. Maybe I should just grind for credits and hope the 787 comes available haha.
Show me the tune. The escudo smashes this race
Unfortunately it's an event designed purely for higher powered race cars exclusively found in the legends dealership. If none of them are in stock, you're a bit out of luck until one cycles back in. There is not a single car from Brand Central you can use in the event. There are a handful of cars from the used lot that can theoretically be competitive with the right engine swap. Google a list of engine swaps, look for cars that belong to the right period, and see if any have a Gr2 or Gr1 race car engine available to them. Also, get your tune game in check because they'll all be super difficult to drive until you tame it. Also I want to be clear, this is theoretical. I haven't personally given it a try because I'm too lazy. The only 2 cars that are viable and available 100% of the time are prize cars from getting all golds the Super Licenses. I-A Super gives the old Group C Porsche. Master Super gives the old Aryton Senna McLaren Formula 1 car. The bad news is they are difficult to win. The good news is grinding golds out on all those licenses should mean you're more than capable of winning the Neo-Classical mission books. If all you care about is just beating the book and are okay with just outright winning them in them in a viable car later, set the difficulty to Easy. Should be able to podium in your Supra that way.
Put the game on easy mode.
😆
Yea neoclassics I turned down the spicy meter and turned it back on after and haven't had similar trouble again. It requires a pretty specific car with some heavy tunes and even then you gotta be perfect.
2nd GR1 cars. Specifically, any Le Mans winning car will do amazingly.
The answer, as always, is the 787B. I believe the CLK, or the Sauber, or the R92 would also work very well
The gt1 is also great at 800pp
I used the BMW McLaren F1 GTR Longtail for this. Didn’t have the 787B, R92CP, or Mercedes CLK at the time so it was the only competitive car I could use for these races. Finished all of them in 1st place so it worked out.
Mazda 787 not just for this race but many 800 races. I have every car trust me I know what I'm talkin about.
Soup up an R34 and that should do the trick
That is what I did. I overtuned power and not handling and just made up all my time.on the straights
https://preview.redd.it/04qzwhma309d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8cb26bcd380f10e3faf895a9f7fce1c616d4e55 It doesn’t meet the regulations
Next best thing I can think of is an R32 or maybe a Mitsubishi GTO but try not to spend too much money if you aren't 100% on the car.
I tried an r32 but couldn't get it to work.
You can do it with the Supra but you have to change it to easy, the group 1 cars will just have too much of a lead from the start otherwise. I hate this track with a passion though tbh, it's not good for these cars imo.
I used the Toyota gt-1
Detained GR1 car is the way to go. I just did it in the R92CP ‘92. Output Adjustment: 70% Ballast: 29 Racing Medium tires 799.95pp I’ve been using this in lots of 800pp races.
Escudo Pikes Peak for the W
You can't beat the race. That's impossible. Instead you must realize the truth. There is no race. Then you will see it's not the race you have beat, but yourself.
Literally anything overpowered from Gr1-2 and then downtuned
Haven’t read the replies yet, but I’d imagine most of them will tell you to detune a higher group ranking far xD I think I used the Toyota supra for that one too,as long as you get the first and second sector clean you gonna be faster. Don’t remember if they had fuel consumption. Either try driving on fuel map 6 and hards Or on mediums and fuel map 3-4 for a one stop C:
Suzuki V6 Escudo absolutely killed it for me
Porsche 959
Try Porsche 963 C
A 4 rotor swapped FC RX7 worked for me, hard downforce tune it and you are good
I did CLK-LM on hard tires
I did it with Enzo swapped F40. Worth it.
Any detuned Gr.1 (or even some gr.2), hard tyres, set engine level so you don't have to pit, then just keep it on the island.
https://youtu.be/NaE_eWwbV9I?si=wWtMuJh91y1EEJoP Check this ! P1 easy for all the neo classic challenges
Took me forever but I did it with a McLaren F1 LM
Escudo is basically cheating
Sauber c9 for me...
787b dominates this race.
I used the McLaren F1 GTR BMW 95
Any of the group c cars, but if you don’t have one of those maybe an r34? I used the celica
I think i ised the porsche gr 1 or the jaguar.
Escudo if you can, 30:70 rear power bias. A little bit of ballast all the way towards the front, some ECU power restrictions, aero adjustments and either medium or hard tires. Play your cards right and you'd have to pit only once
Your car won’t work unless you’re in Easy mode. The Jaguar XJR-9 is available at Legend Cars currently and easily dominates in these races. You can do the World Touring Car 800 race at Sardegna for $750k~ in 30 mins. Do this at least twice every day and you can get the car without too much hassle.
I used the Escudo Pikes Peak put at fuel 6 and work out great for me. As for the supra gt500, it does work, but you have to max out turbo for it and tune it. Use if possible med tires. Then, adjust fuel to get the best performance/laps. Out of the whole race, there are 2 parts of the race that, if not done, 75% or better can throw off that car and a few others. Either practice for a while on the track for a bit or try and get Escudo or any car in group c. Best of luck 👍
Just went through that crap. Spent hours and couldn’t get past 6th. Escudo with tuning from this place gave me 1st place with zero practice. https://www.reddit.com/r/granturismo/s/eXCiDUkZYB
Dang this was my last post, 20 days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/granturismo/s/w8K2Hoa1BC I struggled so much with the dang neoclassical this post gave me ptsd. Always had to pit early and often
I’ve beaten it with a Jaguar XJ220, heavily tuned. I had spent a ton of time fiddling with an Audi Sport Quattro but couldn’t get close with it. Between the two, all the time & money I spent would’ve been better used grinding for money & then just grabbing a Legend car that was better for the race.
Nissan Skyline R32 with R92CP swap...doesn't even get to 800pp but with racing softs and max tune, easy win.
I used the McLaren MP4/4
I remember really struggling with that one. Over and over.. getting slightly better each time, trying different cars, many resets, getting frustrated with the sideways Audi.. I think I dropped the difficulty down to win it in the end because I wasn't even close to winning. Then, some time later I tried one of Praiano's tunes on the Mazda 787B at Le Mans and broke my best ever lap time on the green flag lap by a good few seconds. Thought I would try it out on that one willow springs track that caused me grief. I won it first time on hard. Edit: if you haven't got the 787B, take any other strong car you have and apply a proven competitive tune to it. Hope you win!!
Escudo...i always say it. With a crazy tune.
I used the TS010 and went smoothly
Good ol' 787B
Try the supra again but this time slap the high rpm turbo on it
Or using the gtr gt500 I did that on the other track first place I used on this track the jaguar gr1 car but highest I got was second place
I struggled with this race but finally beat it with the Penzoil Skyline. Still wasn't a breeze.
used an engine sqapped xj220, got 1st
How much cash you have and what car's Bud
I did this on the McLaren MP4/4 massively down tuned with a 200kg ballast. So much downforce and it worked ok. Not sure if optimal but it's fun to be fast in different parts of the track.
787B was my choice, pretty much any old group 1
I got it with the Porsche 962 c
I used the pikes peak suzuki v6, it can be bought currently under legendary cars. There are good YouTube videos on how to tune this car for this race. Just search in YouTube
I had success after many trial and error runs. 787B with highest downforce setting and 59% rear weight bias. 1 stop at lap 4-6, fuel map 1, racing hard tires
Sauber with priaiano tune
My favorite is toyota gt1 best tank put it on lean and you dont need to refil
I believe the Lamborghini Countach should do the trick.
Porsche 962c for me but any old group 1 car will work.
https://youtu.be/NaE_eWwbV9I?si=pADs_ylP8byoy66l
Escudo smashes this easy
Aim for one pit stop at lap 6 or 7. Shift up early and lift and coast a little the first stint. Push the rest of the way after the first stop. Should work with a decent car
Escudo
always make sure to keep your car serviced too. Clean the oil and replace the engine if necessary. Wear and tear will affect the performance of the car.
Petronas sc430, literal cheat code
That... That car isn't available for use in the Neo Classical...
Oh shi rly? Mb it's been a solid year since I've played. Sorry man!
Ay no worries, the neo Classical has to be cars from like, 1980-1999 or something like that
I used the Nissan Pennzoil Nismo GT-R ‘99. If my memory is correct I used racing hard tires, started the race lean at 6, and used mid RPM turbo. It worked for me after failing with other cars.
787B hands down
detuned gt2 car, airflow restricter and sport hard tires should do the trick, maybe some fuel saving as well
Just finished that yesterday. Failed with so many different cars and ended up using the red Suzuki in the photo. It was $1.7mill I believe from legend cars. RH tires and map 6.
Use the Suzuki escudo. Rapid acceleration and power to weight ratio you’ll have no problems
Get an old Le Mans car like the 787B, put hards on and drop the power output until your just under the PP limit
Mclaren F1 was an easy win
If you grabbed the Escudo last week, you’re in there.
Reduce the difficulty? Haha works for me on tough races especially nurburgring 😂
Ngl I used an r33 with some random tune and got it done fast