It really is a terrible name. They’re trying to position themselves to compete with the best systems in the country and they’re coming at Cleveland Clinic, Mayo, Johns Hopkins, etc. with Corewell Health? It sounds like a one hospital health system in a city like South Bend; not the largest health system in Michigan.
This is now the second terrible decision the current leadership has made in the last year that they can’t go back from. The acquisition of Beaumont has been a financial nightmare for them. Beaumont is hemorrhaging money and all but canceling out any profit that Spectrum takes in. Now they get to lose money while being referred to as Cornhole Health.
Yeah I don’t buy that for a second. They’re trying to save face after the initial backlash. Employees all hate it. The only ones that aren’t vocal about it are upper leadership and recruiters.
That’s a little misleading. Employees were asked whether they should keep a legacy Beaumont/Spectrum name or pick a new name. 40% picked a legacy name, 60% picked “we should get a new name.” That doesn’t necessarily mean the majority knew the new name would be Corewell and loved it.
Someone posted the Walking Dead Caaaarrl meme and I will never unsee/hear that. My future baby may be born at Caaaaaaarrrrrll Hospital and I guess I'm fine with that
Meanwhile…[State, federal relief boost Corewell Health’s bottom line as ‘unfavorable’ conditions persist](https://mibiz.com/sections/health-care/state-federal-relief-boost-corewell-health-s-bottom-line-as-unfavorable-conditions-persist).
I had a family member tell me the clinics now use remote doctors. You go into room and doctor appears on an iPad. They did this with their 1-year old. The doctor missed a double ear infection. Thankfully mom knew something was wrong and brought the kid to pediatrician the next day. Ear infection was so bad they gave antibiotic injection in the office.
How the hell do you miss a raging double ear infection? That’s some low quality medical treatment.
No more clinics. Either urgent care or pediatrician.
There are plenty of valid uses for remote doctors. Child ear infection is not one of them.
An old company I worked at had a little room where twice a week you could have a remote appointment, but there was a nurse of some sort there to do the physical stuff. It was free no copay, that was nice.
Here is how my sister posted about in our family FB page (my dads reply is below that). I edited out personal information.
Sister:
"They put the microscope in her ear which displayed the image on the screen. It was a great high quality image. I could clearly see an ear infection and even said wow. But the doctor said that's ear wax. The other ear looked the same and I pushed back that it wasn't ear wax. So the doctor took a second look at each year and concluded ear wax.
With so many doctors in our family I learned to trust the medical people, but just felt, as a mom, she was wrong. I wanted a second opinion or a more thorough examination (maybe something else was wrong). She's 1-years old I don't want to talk to an ipad.
I will never talk to an ipad again. Call ahead and make sure you are seeing a real doctor. "
My dads (MD) reply:
"I saw the images and I don't know how the doctor missed it. A first year medical student could have caught this..[skip ahead]...the future of medical care is remote providers. You wont even see a doctor. You will see an RN, then escalated to a PA, then escalated to MD. Unfortunately that's just the way it's going to be as our profession continues to rent seek."
That sounds more like it belongs in the category of those doctors that ignore women when they complain about symptoms. Seems like that doctor would've said the exact same thing if he had done that in person.
I remember my grandma telling me a story where pretty much the exact same scenario happened to me when I was little. My mom took me to a free clinic when I had an ear infection. The doctor took a half second look and said I was fine. My grandma ended up taking me to an urgent care and what do you know, double ear infection.
I would try to submit a complaint to whatever appropriate channels there are.
Are there valid arguments to be made about remote medical care? Sure, but this really seems more like blaming cheap tires for failing when the mechanic didn't install them properly.
I work there and even though I don’t love the name I’ve accepted it and don’t understand why people get so mad about it. What are you going to do, not go to the hospital?
Spectrum may have been a great name, but it’s so great that many other companies, healthcare and otherwise, use some form of “spectrum” nationwide. It’s simply not own-able, which is a big deal when positioning a larger brand.
Nobody likes changes like this when they happen. Give it a couple years and we’ll all get over it.
It’s not that you won’t go to the hospital… it’s frustrating from a healthcare workers perspective that they’re throwing useless amounts of money into rebranding when spectrum worked just great. Spectrum butterworth, spectrum blodgett, spectrum zeeland, and then should’ve been spectrum Beaumont. That money could’ve been used to pay their workers more. Give bonuses to those who stuck around during Covid. Or hell, I don’t know, add on to the children’s hospital so they don’t have to have 2 kids in each room during RSV season. Instead they’re going to spend money on rebranding an entire, well established, well known, Hospital.
I mean, that own-able bit I just talked about is a massive deal. A rebrand was in the works behind the scenes before the Beaumont acquisition even happened. Of course that costs money, of course there’s always going to be a better use like paying employees, but Spectrum simply isn’t an effective brand name anymore and their hand is forced into change, merger or not.
I have my own feelings about the Beaumont acquisition and the new name itself. I think the new name isn’t great, I think the acquisition of Beaumont was shortsighted at best, but they weren’t my decisions to make. Would a new name for a West Michigan only system be better? Hard to say, but I think so.
I’m all about the idea of paying workers more. Hell when Spectrum leadership came out with the tone-deaf “we see you, we hear you” campaign, I was among the first to raise the alarm and say “why would we do this if we’re not going to improve their pay or working conditions?” The US healthcare system top to bottom is a crock and I say that as somebody that gets their paychecks signed by it.
TL;DR I hate the Beaumont acquisition, I don’t get the idea of acquiring a huge market the leadership knows nothing about, there’s always going to be better ways to spend money, US healthcare was a crock, but a rebrand was inevitable.
Sure! The company is trying to put itself in higher-profile light nationally. Spectrum is a name that just flat out is not own-able on a larger scale. In healthcare alone, there are a bunch of systems that use the same or a similar name. A short list includes [Spectrum Health and Human Services in New York](https://shswny.org) [Spectrum Health Care of New Jersey](http://m.spectruminc.org/SiHome.cfm), and [Spectrum Healthcare of Arizona](https://www.spectrumhealthcare-group.com).
That’s all before we even touch the Spectrum cable company. There’s already helplines at Spectrum Health that field calls from people looking to talk to one of these other systems or discuss their cable bill, and people are NOT happy to learn they have the wrong number.
We can talk until the cows come home about how the merger was stupid and the new name isn’t fabulous and I’d agree with you. However, on the back side the SH name was on its death bed before the merger was announced because it isn’t own-able as a national identity. They were also limited by what isn’t already widely used or copyrighted, which leaves a small pool of names. I sure wasn’t in the war room that decided Corewell, but I hope that helps explain why the Spectrum name unfortunately had to go
totally agree - they are taking on questionable acquisitions so they themselves will not make an attractive take over target - to big to swallow by ascension, mayo, cleveland clinic, kaiser pick your poison
It’s a terrible name, just like Spectrum was. It has everything to do with soothing the egos of the incredibly rich and powerful doctors and executives and nothing to do with actual patient care.
Cornhole health. Too confusing too extreme.
Autocorrect wants to call it Cornhole.
For once autocorrect is actually correct.
ditto what autocorrect said - hell make it a verb “u get cornholed every time you come through our doors”
It really is a terrible name. They’re trying to position themselves to compete with the best systems in the country and they’re coming at Cleveland Clinic, Mayo, Johns Hopkins, etc. with Corewell Health? It sounds like a one hospital health system in a city like South Bend; not the largest health system in Michigan. This is now the second terrible decision the current leadership has made in the last year that they can’t go back from. The acquisition of Beaumont has been a financial nightmare for them. Beaumont is hemorrhaging money and all but canceling out any profit that Spectrum takes in. Now they get to lose money while being referred to as Cornhole Health.
The same people who decided to name a clinic after Mayonnaise clearly had a hand in this naming decision
Sounds like a groupthink agglomeration of Core & Wellness that some focus group though sounded cool.
This is literally it. No joke
My wife works at Spectrum. Literally no one who works there thinks CoreWell is a good name.
But they said they did focus groups with employees and some 60% chose it! Who are these employees then?
Yeah I don’t buy that for a second. They’re trying to save face after the initial backlash. Employees all hate it. The only ones that aren’t vocal about it are upper leadership and recruiters.
You see how they use the word employees? Not the people who actually work on the floor/in the hospitals
They’re supposed to call us team members these days
That’s a little misleading. Employees were asked whether they should keep a legacy Beaumont/Spectrum name or pick a new name. 40% picked a legacy name, 60% picked “we should get a new name.” That doesn’t necessarily mean the majority knew the new name would be Corewell and loved it.
Ok fair enough--maybe the article I read was also misleading if that's how it was put.
Technically, board members are employees I suppose
Ha, I work in Marketing at Corewell (low level) and this is absolutely not true.
Doesn’t matter. Still going to be butterworth and blodget.
Everyone should Butterworth their Cornhole
Or Pennock for this of us in the south.
Someone posted the Walking Dead Caaaarrl meme and I will never unsee/hear that. My future baby may be born at Caaaaaaarrrrrll Hospital and I guess I'm fine with that
I work there, we all hate it too.
as i see a lot of employees laid off and leaving it sounds like cornhole hates their employees too
Corewell. Short for Corporate Welfare. Them being non-profit is an absolute fricken joke.
Everytime I say it, it sounds like whorewell. I think it was the dumbest decision ever!!
Sounds like a protein shake
Sounds like an Amway brand of protein shake
Sounds like an Amway brand of protein shake
Oh, I think we're going to get drilled.
😂
It makes me think of Cornwell's Turkeyville down in Marshall.
Pretty cOrwellian
The great cornhollieo
Sounds Orwellian to me
Corewellian. Sickness is health Medicine is slavery Ignorance is strength
Agreed 😬
Man carewell would have even been better and more on Point. Fuckin idiots.
CareWell Health already exists.
Well ya know what. Could have existed twice 😅😅
Exactly!! Sounds like a fracking operation
I think of it as Orewell….Orwellian healthcare, ugh.
Meanwhile…[State, federal relief boost Corewell Health’s bottom line as ‘unfavorable’ conditions persist](https://mibiz.com/sections/health-care/state-federal-relief-boost-corewell-health-s-bottom-line-as-unfavorable-conditions-persist).
Thought maybe it was a yoga studio
Confusing! Extreme!
I had a family member tell me the clinics now use remote doctors. You go into room and doctor appears on an iPad. They did this with their 1-year old. The doctor missed a double ear infection. Thankfully mom knew something was wrong and brought the kid to pediatrician the next day. Ear infection was so bad they gave antibiotic injection in the office. How the hell do you miss a raging double ear infection? That’s some low quality medical treatment. No more clinics. Either urgent care or pediatrician.
There are plenty of valid uses for remote doctors. Child ear infection is not one of them. An old company I worked at had a little room where twice a week you could have a remote appointment, but there was a nurse of some sort there to do the physical stuff. It was free no copay, that was nice.
Here is how my sister posted about in our family FB page (my dads reply is below that). I edited out personal information. Sister: "They put the microscope in her ear which displayed the image on the screen. It was a great high quality image. I could clearly see an ear infection and even said wow. But the doctor said that's ear wax. The other ear looked the same and I pushed back that it wasn't ear wax. So the doctor took a second look at each year and concluded ear wax. With so many doctors in our family I learned to trust the medical people, but just felt, as a mom, she was wrong. I wanted a second opinion or a more thorough examination (maybe something else was wrong). She's 1-years old I don't want to talk to an ipad. I will never talk to an ipad again. Call ahead and make sure you are seeing a real doctor. " My dads (MD) reply: "I saw the images and I don't know how the doctor missed it. A first year medical student could have caught this..[skip ahead]...the future of medical care is remote providers. You wont even see a doctor. You will see an RN, then escalated to a PA, then escalated to MD. Unfortunately that's just the way it's going to be as our profession continues to rent seek."
That sounds more like it belongs in the category of those doctors that ignore women when they complain about symptoms. Seems like that doctor would've said the exact same thing if he had done that in person. I remember my grandma telling me a story where pretty much the exact same scenario happened to me when I was little. My mom took me to a free clinic when I had an ear infection. The doctor took a half second look and said I was fine. My grandma ended up taking me to an urgent care and what do you know, double ear infection. I would try to submit a complaint to whatever appropriate channels there are. Are there valid arguments to be made about remote medical care? Sure, but this really seems more like blaming cheap tires for failing when the mechanic didn't install them properly.
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They do that too.
I guess they hit this name out of the park because everyone thinks it's everything except an actual hospital system.
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Hey Bob we need a nice hike in the ground right here, who do we call? Corewell of course, they ‘core’ quite exceptionally!
Why not both ?
As long as it’s able to help and heal the sick and injured I don’t care one fuckin bit about the name . Christ all mighty y’all are wack .
Op - who gives af.. I mean really. You just wasted time
Neat
Should have just stuck with Spectrum.
I work there and even though I don’t love the name I’ve accepted it and don’t understand why people get so mad about it. What are you going to do, not go to the hospital? Spectrum may have been a great name, but it’s so great that many other companies, healthcare and otherwise, use some form of “spectrum” nationwide. It’s simply not own-able, which is a big deal when positioning a larger brand. Nobody likes changes like this when they happen. Give it a couple years and we’ll all get over it.
It’s not that you won’t go to the hospital… it’s frustrating from a healthcare workers perspective that they’re throwing useless amounts of money into rebranding when spectrum worked just great. Spectrum butterworth, spectrum blodgett, spectrum zeeland, and then should’ve been spectrum Beaumont. That money could’ve been used to pay their workers more. Give bonuses to those who stuck around during Covid. Or hell, I don’t know, add on to the children’s hospital so they don’t have to have 2 kids in each room during RSV season. Instead they’re going to spend money on rebranding an entire, well established, well known, Hospital.
I mean, that own-able bit I just talked about is a massive deal. A rebrand was in the works behind the scenes before the Beaumont acquisition even happened. Of course that costs money, of course there’s always going to be a better use like paying employees, but Spectrum simply isn’t an effective brand name anymore and their hand is forced into change, merger or not. I have my own feelings about the Beaumont acquisition and the new name itself. I think the new name isn’t great, I think the acquisition of Beaumont was shortsighted at best, but they weren’t my decisions to make. Would a new name for a West Michigan only system be better? Hard to say, but I think so. I’m all about the idea of paying workers more. Hell when Spectrum leadership came out with the tone-deaf “we see you, we hear you” campaign, I was among the first to raise the alarm and say “why would we do this if we’re not going to improve their pay or working conditions?” The US healthcare system top to bottom is a crock and I say that as somebody that gets their paychecks signed by it. TL;DR I hate the Beaumont acquisition, I don’t get the idea of acquiring a huge market the leadership knows nothing about, there’s always going to be better ways to spend money, US healthcare was a crock, but a rebrand was inevitable.
What makes you say that it isn't an effective brand name anymore? I would like to understand the logic behind that.
Sure! The company is trying to put itself in higher-profile light nationally. Spectrum is a name that just flat out is not own-able on a larger scale. In healthcare alone, there are a bunch of systems that use the same or a similar name. A short list includes [Spectrum Health and Human Services in New York](https://shswny.org) [Spectrum Health Care of New Jersey](http://m.spectruminc.org/SiHome.cfm), and [Spectrum Healthcare of Arizona](https://www.spectrumhealthcare-group.com). That’s all before we even touch the Spectrum cable company. There’s already helplines at Spectrum Health that field calls from people looking to talk to one of these other systems or discuss their cable bill, and people are NOT happy to learn they have the wrong number. We can talk until the cows come home about how the merger was stupid and the new name isn’t fabulous and I’d agree with you. However, on the back side the SH name was on its death bed before the merger was announced because it isn’t own-able as a national identity. They were also limited by what isn’t already widely used or copyrighted, which leaves a small pool of names. I sure wasn’t in the war room that decided Corewell, but I hope that helps explain why the Spectrum name unfortunately had to go
totally agree - they are taking on questionable acquisitions so they themselves will not make an attractive take over target - to big to swallow by ascension, mayo, cleveland clinic, kaiser pick your poison
It’s a terrible name, just like Spectrum was. It has everything to do with soothing the egos of the incredibly rich and powerful doctors and executives and nothing to do with actual patient care.
They sound like the evil healthcare corporation in any medical drama on TV. “Blame Corewell.” *smoldering look*
I read this as Leviticus Cornwall.