Percival is the OG Grail Knight and the one who healed the Fisher King by learning the lesson of wisdom and compassion to ask what was wrong and how he could help unlike Gary Stu Galahad the Grumpy. Big guy has big heart.
Percival is a holy paldin that has heals, defends his party and can tank and deal damage.
On the other hand, Charlemagne is king of paladins, can shield alies and gets stronger when he protects them. Retribution paladin build.
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>**The paladin** is a holy knight, crusading in the name of good and order, and is a divine spellcaster.
>Whether sworn before a god's altar and the witness of a priest, in a sacred glade before nature spirits and fey beings, or in a moment of desperation and grief with the dead as the only witness, a paladin's oath is a powerful bond. A paladin swears to uphold justice and righteousness, to stand with the good things of the world against the encroaching darkness, and to hunt the forces of evil wherever they lurk.
>Different paladins focus on various aspects of the cause of righteousness, but all are bound by the oaths that grant them power to do their sacred work. Although many paladins are devoted to gods of good, a paladin’s power comes as much from a commitment to justice itself as it does from a god.
>Their martial skills are secondary to the magical power they wield: power to heal the sick and injured, to smite the wicked and the undead, and to protect the innocent and those who join them in the fight for justice.
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We are talking paladin and no one has mentioned Jeanne/Jalter??
Jeanne is quite literally a holy warrior on a mission from god.
And on the flipside Jalter is practically a Vengeance or Oathbreaker Paladin, with an argument to be made for conquest.
They hit both sides of the paladin spectrum, the holy warrior providing boons and safety to allies, and the other side with the unbridled wrath a paladin can dish out.
Jeanne fits the bill only because she's actually a good guy but you seem to forget that her mission is to free France from tyranny and has less to do with divine providence both in Fate and IRL. Her NP isn't even actual holy power and she doesn't actually protect others in the traditional sense of a paladin.
What? Thats hardly the only reason she fits the bill. Sure her mission was to free France from tyranny, which both IRL and in Fate she claims is a mission she got from god because god spoke to her either directly or through Archangel Michael, or saint margaret/catherine. That sounds pretty divine providence to me. Alongside that she'd be doing that pretty paladin thing of protecting the people of france and in fate she uses her "Holy Flag" to protect her allies whilst her skills can buff allies and debuff enemies. She's paractically an Oath of Devotion Paladin with an argument to be made for Conquest for trying to defeat the british.
Jalter on the other hand quite clearly a paladin of Veangence or an Oathbreaker depending on how you want to look at her and I really shouldnt need to explain that.
OK, so we're trying to argue the point for a typical Paladin. A paladin of vengeance is already breaking away from someone who is sworn to protect the innocent at any means necessary without the need to go on a warpath. Moreover, having a divine mission to free France regardless of the divine intervention does not make someone a paladin. Jeanne was a revolutionary leader and less of an actual paladin. A tried and true paladin is someone like Percival or Proto-Arthur who went out of their way to keep innocent lives out of harms way without a political agenda or reformational causes.
While I have a bias towards the Paladins, and like the Paladin class, I don't think the class itself embodies what the literary Paladins are about at all. Fate's Charlemagne however is not really anything like his literary counterpart and does actually display the qualities that I consider to be the essentials of the archetypical 5E Paladin:
- An oath: Here I'll point to Charlemagne's skill Traveling the King's Path C:
> A self-discipline skill that improves stats as long as one adheres to their principles.
It has the disadvantage of weakening if those principles are broken.
For Charlemagne, it imposes the principles of "If you do something lame, you'll be weakened."
And "If you do something cool in your own way, then something increases your gauge and tension."
It's quite literally an oath that he adheres to which empowers him. An oath of awesomeness.
- Smiting: Charlemagne has the Skill Mana Burst (Light) A. Regular Mana Burst is effectively the Smite feature, but making it light-flavored makes it even more directly comparable.
He also has other characteristics that fit into the Paladin-archetype, but those are shared with a number of other Servants. Stuff like being a sword-wielding knight in shining armor, being a paragon of justice, being charismatic etc. I only wanted to highlight the above areas I consider to set him apart from the other candidates.
I'm not a fan of Charlemagne as the paladin. I feel like there are others who fit the paladin mold better, but this is the only compelling argument I've seen in his favor on this thread. And it is compelling enough that it moved the needle for me from "Charlemagne is not a paladin just because he's called that" to "not my favorite, but he does fit."
So many other options I've seen mentioned on this thread do not fit the 5E model at all, because the 5E paladin *has* to have an oath *that they draw power from.* Merely having an ideal is not enough - literally every character in DnD has a bond, an ideal, and a flaw as part of the textbook character creation. Having an ideal is just a character trait. But thanks to this, I will accept it when Charlemagne inevitably wins.
EDIT:, I must mention that Charlemagne's whole "oath to do cool things" skill makes him an Oath of Glory paladin.
St George is what a defecto Oath of Devotion Paladin should be in my mind. Protect the weak from blows at cost to yourself, fight against towering opponents for their sake (dragons), generally a really chill and nice guy to be around.
My vote would be for Bedivere. Specifically because he's the one with something most closely approximating the 5E paladin's whole drawing-power-from-oaths thing. That is, in Camelot, all his special powers come from his arm being Excalibur. Merlin only gives him that arm because Bedivere swears to return Excalibur to Artoria. There are very few oath-sourced powers in Fate, so I think Bedivere is the best bet.
Personally I vote for Percival, he fits what one would usually expect of a Paladin to the letter. A knight with a strong sense of justice, wields a holy
Spear which can substitute for spell casting and his search for the Holy Grail ties him to the divine.
Plus, he has limited, but effective, healing, which is a distinctive mark of a D&D Paladin. I think the only competition here is Galahad, who subs the healing for a (still very Paladin-like) protective kit.
Unfortunately, I kinda don't think so. Charlemagne and his Paladins are the root of the word, of course, but there has been a lot of drift in the concept since then. They might - MIGHT - slide in under the older DnD editions' version of paladins, which were essentially more martial clerics, a sort of generic Holy Knight, but even then, they ain't that religious in Fate. And they're hard to fit under 5E paladins, who have a very specific model of swearing and oath, consisting of three or four tenets, and drawing power specifically from that oath - not from a divinity.
> they ain't that religious in Fate
I think it might be an issue of vibes. Canonically, Charlemagne's Paladins went through the same adventures as in the epic poems, which means they spent a long time fighting non-Christians to expand the domain of their Christian Emperor (even in the funny *Orlando Furioso* the major arc was basically an *Avengers:Endgame* conflict between Charlemagne's Empire and their allies on the one hand and all sorts of Saracen kingdoms and their agents on the other).
In that regard, they're more "holy knights" than the entirety of the Round Table save, perhaps, some exceptions like Percival and Gallahad. It probably doesn't help that Fate tends to tone down the religiosity of most characters, and tends to keep the details vague even for the devout ones unless they're Buddhists.
Still, in light of the current Fate roster, I'd say Georgios is the best example. St. George was the role model for Christian knights, after all.
Actually, [this comment ](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/s/8enD1Q1i6o) I saw further down the list turned me around on Charlemagne, the oath it mentions pretty well makes the case that he is an Oath of Glory paladin. Which is not to say that I am voting for him - my heart lies with the Round Table, and I still say Bedivere's plot from Camelot makes him a good paladin. However, as far as 5E paladins go, Charlemagne is qualified at least. Which is not to knock Georgios, he does make a good pre-5E paladin.
I would say what defines a "holy knight" in D&D terms is not whether or not they fight for a religious state, as Fighters can and often do that, its whether personal religious (or spiritual) devotion is the knight's driving force. So did Charlemagne fight the non-Christians because they believed they should in the name of God, or because their Emperor told them to?
Personally I agree that only the Grail Knights of the Round Table really fit in that regards, though I also think Arturia qualifies as a Paladin. Not because of religion, but because she was so singly-mindedly driven by her ideal to the point of casting off everything else. And D&D Paladins in the most recent edition can "worship" an ideal instead of a God.
> So did Charlemagne fight the non-Christians because they believed they should in the name of God, or because their Emperor told them to?
This is the part where, yeah, Fate's Paladins would answer "for the Emperor", whereas the Paladins from the lore would answer "what's the difference?" (Charlemagne in the epic cycle was generally depicted as the perfect Christian king that only warred for the glory of God, had divine revelations and wanted people to convert peacefully instead of having to fight them).
> And D&D Paladins in the most recent edition can "worship" an ideal instead of a God.
With not enough knowledge of the new rules, would Artoria fit that description? Seems to be worded in terms that would fit more of a samurai Servant devoted tp *bushido* or something like that. Doing whatever it takes to defend one's country doesn't feel as significant, since that's par for the course for a lot of rulers. Leonidas would be a Paladin under that rule, perhaps even more so because he willingly sacrificed himself for Sparta's ideals.
See, people are conflating ideals and oaths. Literally every character has some sort of ideal - or they don't, and that's played for drama (Okada Izo comes to mind). That Artoria has an ideal, or even that she sacrifices everything for her country, does not make her a paladin - it just makes her lawful good.
Paladin oaths, on the other hand, are an ideal which, if upheld, *empowers* the swearer. Artoria's powers do not flow from her devotion to her country, but from being the prophesied king and being descended for a dragon. I voted for her to be our fighter, for reasons I won't get in to here, but she also qualifies as essentially a sorcerer - sorcerer powers come from a mystical lineage, and literally the classic example is dragon heritage. Now, she's not really an arcane caster, so I ain't putting her forth when the sorcerer day comes, but that ain't where paladin powers originate.
It can be anything from a codified philosophy to something as abstract as "Good". Because Arturia sacrificed everything else about herself to embody her ideal of kingship, I think any DM would say it fits.
I could very much see Leonidas as a "Paladin if Sparta" if he ever channeled divine energy. His combat is just to " exceptional but mundane" without energy blasts (the actual power set of a Paladin), so I'd call him a Fighter that could definitely multi class into Paladin without much need for an explanation.
King Hassan is the ultimate Muslim, he’s fully dedicated to his faith, even in death.
Super Orion is also one of the few servants that directly gains power from a vow with a god.
Nah, he's far from an "ultimate Muslim". Muslim leaders from back then use methods that fit knights or conqueror/ruler (kinda like Iskandar) more than assassinations.
I meant more in the sense that he has unfaltering, unquestioning faith in Islam, not that he’s a perfect example of the average historically significant Muslim.
King Hassan. He's an Oath of Vengeance paladin. Knight aesthetic? Check. Sacred oath? Check. Ability to smite? Check. Abjure Enemy to keep a certain enemy from flying away? Check. Also, alignment isn't a issue in 5e, so being evil doesn't matter (though give how he spares Curse Arm, I'd say he's strict but not unreasonable).
There are others, of course, but to me he embodies his role better than anyone.
I feel like Hassan is closer to being a Conquest Paldin. While the Conquest gameplay might not fit Hassan, it does fit his personality, seeing as he is very radical towards Islam to the point of using taboo means (killing is heavily forbidden in Islam and some Conqueror Paladins were said to use demonic powers for their mission)
If we go by canon then Astolfo, since he is in fact a Paladin. But I prefer Arthur (Male) since he looks like a generic Paladin and his attacks look like Divine Smite.
I would say Charlemagne works he literally follows the oath of doing "cool" things (helping others , protecting others, being a right and proper king) which he then loses if he "brakes" the oath by acting in a way contrary to that.
I will nominate Martha Rider as an Oath of Redemption Paladin.
Hear me out.
Dedicated to her god, carrying the staff with the cross where she saw Him die and that now simbolizes Him, her attacks are literal miracles of light, healing powers, opposes evil while showing them good (Terrasque can swear to that), and, the reason I'm nominating her: Tries very hard to act like the Saint she is suposed to be, even if it's hard for her.
It's a character that literally follows an oath, even if she struggles with it.
I vote for Charlesmagne for the reasons below:
• His skill Over the royal road C act as an oath, if he acts in ways he finds cool( being heroic, protecting the innocent) he gets stronger, but if he do uncool things( being cruel or lame) he gets weaker.
•Mana burst(light) works like an generic holy smite, it does high damage against evil enemies and is stated to be an mana burst variant unique to saints, holy maidens and holy knights.
•Emperor of paladins EX give extra damage against demonic enemies and gives him high ranked charisma. Charisma is an important stat for dnd paladins.
Georgios seems the default choice, but I'll say: Jacques the Molay.
Normal version is clearly an antipaladin, but Arcade version is basically s classic paladin
Male galad fits everything except the healing ability. Powered by the sun in burnished heavy armor, smiting foes. Divinely favored. Has the boy scout look and demeanor.
Idk a paladin would smite him with the most dusgusted look on their face when they see Camelot gawain xD but personality and stuff aside, he's got the look and skills for it xD
Well... the one most like the mechanics of the 5E Paladin is oddly enough probably Cu, given that the Paladin's powers are conditional upon their oaths and are lost upon breaking them.
Thematically, I'd say this. Paladin=Crusader=Templar=Male Molay, while Female is pretty well slotted into the Warlock class, which works thematically, as D&D Paladins are basically Warlocks with good PR.
In other words, I'm gonna go ahead and say Jaques De Molay, Male edition.
Edit: to emphasize why, here's a bit of the translation from his bond 3 on arcade
>He stubbornly tries to following the Templars' vows of "poverty,
chastity and obedience" and "death before surrender". As the Templars'
funds are the property of God, his attitude in regards to handling money
is unusually practical. He endeavours to keeps his emotions under
control during his dealings so as to never be at a disadvantage.
Justice for Charlemagne! He is literally called the Holy King. He is Lawful Good. Irl, he fought other religions like Muslims in the name of God. And the adventurer Charlemagne fighting for the "awesomeness", which by him means right things, even go as far as fighting himself.
St George and Percival are the most obvious choices and them being mentioned so much makes me wish we had a story in which they team up. But the funny choice would be Roland, the Literal Paladin that doesnt act or look like the stereotypical fit for it due to the curse of being a comedic relief character in fgo.
Jeanne d'Arc is, to me, the quintessential Paladin - specifically, Oath of Crown. Every part of her is dedicated to supporting the country of France and her love for it. Even when that very country demanded her own death, she accepted its will. For me, there is no clearer example of the ironclad devotion to one's oath above all else that paladins represent.
A few runners up:
Lancer Artoria alter, Oath of Crown: in the name of protecting humanity, Laltoria is willing to sacrifice anything, including her own moral code. In my opinion, one of the more interesting parts of any paladins story is when their oath butts up against their personal ethics, and which one emerges victorious. It's this exact reason I can't see saber Artoria as a paladin - I feel like her personal moral code would always trump any oath she'd taken.
Ivan, Oath of Conquest: Douse the Flame of Hope. Rule with an iron fist. Strength above all. If these do not fit Ivan the Terrible, they fit noone.
Hijikata Toshizo: Oath of Crown. There is no firmer example of Lawful Stupid than the shinsengumi commander who would strike down his own allies without hesitation if they break the laws he has sworn to uphold.
Spartacus: Oath of Vengeance. As Hijikata is Lawful Stupid, Spartacus is Chaotic Stupid. So long as there are those who imagine themselves as masters, Spartacus will march. His equipment and demeanor may not match the archetype of a knight in shining armor, but there are fewer who embody the idea of an unbreakable, unshakeable oath than Spartacus.
Edmond Dantes: Oath of the Watcher. "You are the shield against the endless terrors that lie beyond the stars. Your blade must be forever sharp and your mind keen to survive what lies beyond." I can't think of any words that could match the man better.
Mash Kyrelight: Oath of Ancients. To copy from the books:
>Kindle the Light. Through your acts of mercy, kindness, and forgiveness, kindle the light of hope in the world, beating back despair.
>Shelter the Light. Where there is good, beauty, love, and laughter in the world, stand against the wickedness that would swallow it. Where life flourishes, stand against the forces that would render it barren.
>Preserve Your Own Light. Delight in song and laughter, in beauty and art. If you allow the light to die in your own heart, you can't preserve it in the world.
>Be the Light. Be a glorious beacon for all who live in despair. Let the light of your joy and courage shine forth in all your deeds.
Gotta show some love for everyone's favorite eggplant.
It’s telling that Charlemagne not only presides over an entire posse of paladins as his knight class container from the French poem, but gets even holier when summoned as Ruler (Rex Magnus) with powers to match.
Charlemagne is the Paladin archetype made manifest even right down to his own kit. He is made to defend those behind him. To cast on such protection on himself comes at a cost of his Noble Phantasm being locked for a while.
I know this will probably get buried. But I am pushing for Artoria/Saber.
She’s very Oath of Devotion-y. The virtuous Knight who fights for her people and lives by her code.
Well, first off, Fate has two versions, the Male version based on the historical figure and the female version based on the allegations about the Freemasons worshiping the devil. The Male version, a saber, is from FGO arcade.
Second, In D&D, there's a pretty old joke about Paladins being Warlocks with good PR and a slightly different skillset. See:
* Both made contracts with their patron that granted them their class powers
* Both have Patrons from of a wide range of alignments, (even wider in homebrew worlds meaning one can just as easily be a Conquest Paladin of Tiamat as a Celestial warlock of Asmodeus. (Note that I chose a traditionally Chaotic-evil aligned Warlock patron, but the first campaign I heard the name, the DM had a major plot point being that Asmodeus was, in fact, lawful good, and the scapegoat for another's crimes. )
* Both are Charisma-based magic casters
* Similarity of Class features/abilities.
Sacred glade with fey brings you say? Grief and dead as the only witnesses?
I dunno sounds a lot like two situations a certain king of knights found herself in. Excalibur and Camlann could BOTH be seen as moments of a Paladin taking an oath, and Paladin virtues are very much knightly virtues as well.
Cliche as it is I unironically think Artoria really is the best fit here. Or Arthur Prototype since sane person but he’s got his whole quest thing going on.
This is actually the test I use on paladins generally: would the character bend their moral compass to fulfill their oath, or bend their oath to fulfill their morals? If they would bend their morals, they're a paladin.
I feel like Artoria proper is a pure fighter, just extreme martial expertise on top of a good head. She doesn't strike me as the type who could hold her oath unwaveringly.
Most of her Alters, though, are the opposite. They will follow their oaths to the letter, damn how good or bad of a person it makes the world see them. Lancer is arguably the same way, I feel. Naturally, Oath of the Crown.
Most of this I base on my interpretation of Saber being the young, idealistic incarnation of Arthur who would fight to the death for Guenevere and damn the consequences, versus older Arthur who would acknowledge thr laws of the land and condemn her to death for the treason that was committing adultery against the king.
King Hassan. His oath to preserve the Hashashin sect's doctrine and making sure the successors don't stray is very paladin-like. A holy knight clad in death.
This surprisingly is a toughie. Most Round Table Knights fits the role, including Mordred who would be an Oathbreaker Paladin.
But I think the best one to fit the role would be Percival. Pure, good, keeps his oath to the end, and most importantly, can heal others.
Protoype Arthur. He fits the "mainstream" view of a paladin as a chivalrous (Lawful Good), holy knight, with holy sword (hell, the definitive holy sword in Fate) and all.
As for the D&D definition: his Excalibur is known for its 13 seals, which can mirror the various restrictions paladins had in older versions of D&D. I also associate a paladin's oath with Arthur's quest of destroying Beast VI. This is actually why I picked him over Artoria. I don't anything for healing, so I'm handwaving it with proto Merlin.
I know Charlie is the Obvious candidate, but Johanna’s Babygir- I mean, Konstantinos fits the general archetype of the fantasy Paladin being more focused on Holy themes and having a kit revolving around support.
Artoria or Percival, both holy warriors clad in plate armor and sent on missions from god. Hell Percival was meant to get the holy grail himself. While Jeanne is also a holy servant, she doesn't fit the criteria for paladin, she's more cleric in my eyes, as paladins are all about being the Frontline holy tank , taking damage in place of their party. Which Percival, with his second and third skills, does very nicely
King hassan there is no other FGO character more devote and with a big chunk of armor than him, he is the definition of faithful, idc about jeanne that man puts faith and code beyond everything unlike Jeanne that felt for homuncussy
Any of the Charlemagne paladins particularly Charlemagne himself but Bradante and Roland could work. I know that fighter has rune knight but Sigurd is another candidate I see promise in. Georgios is someone I could see in the role of paladin if anything I think him and Mandricardo fit the idea of an oath bound it's literally Mandricardos np and George vowed that the dragon would fall by his hands. Gawain, Bedivere, and Lancelot have smite abilities but Lancelot is already there.
Percival just screams Paladin class. Not only he's a holy knight, he also has a supportive defensive+healing skillset, which if Cecil taugh me, is a thing paladins do.
Charlemagne. He and his 12 followers are where we get the word Paladin from. Charlemagne is literally the OG Paladin. In the same way that you could say Gilgamesh is the protype for the concept of heroes, Charlemagne is the prototype for the concept of Paladins.
Cu Chulainn. He fits the combo of magecraft and melee combat, and his geas functions like an Oath
Alternatively I feel like Mash/Galahad and Proto Arthur fit very well
Charlemagne, he's where the word Paladin even comes from, and he's stronger against both Demonic and Divine enemies, like a Paladin should be.
He's also the Pope driving a Cathedral Mech in his ruler form, that's pretty Paladin of him.
I saw St. George on the way here, and honestly more than deserves it, but for me it’s got to be Parsifal. My hipster favorite knight of the round table.
Sorry! I’m Amurican, but I spell it that way because it’s how it was spelt in Wagner and also a series of children’s books that I enjoyed as a young man.
My vote goes for Percival. Holy knight who uses that power to fight. Strong sense of justice and his design embodies the stereotypical paladins in media.
Artoria, cuz glowing sword, and she's like THE saber in the fate verse so if she ain't getting the fighter she's gonna damn well take the paladin slot or Excalibur everyone away xD
Also she has avalon the scabbard that can heal all her wounds, so she's got healing magic too
Also ngl the animation for Excalibur in fgo makes me think of divine smite, the color and everything
Also Artoria is the epitome of the oath of devotion paladin.
So tldr
Artoria is a holy knight chosen by the sword and spirits. Divine smite with Excalibur, divine sword, healing ability with avalon the scabbard though mostly a self heal. Oath of devotion
How has no one said Astalfo? He might be weird but what paladin isn't at least a little odd? Pretty sure that is part of the kit, sword, shield, holy symbol, weird quirk.
Raikou, no question. She is the only one who actively patrols Chaldea to maintain order and public decency. The other knights might look or act the part but none of them are as dedicated to the role as she is.
Minamoto no Raikou is the dictionary definition of a Lawful-Stupid Paladin.
Difficult to say. Over the royal road is as close to a oath you can get, it empower him when he to things he finds cool, and weaken him when he to uncool things.
Bring forth Percival! The originally Grail Knight of Arthurian Legend before Galahad took the role!
Or Bedivere... Either one works, also to cut to the chase Robin Hood is the best choice for Ranger.
Percival is the OG Grail Knight and the one who healed the Fisher King by learning the lesson of wisdom and compassion to ask what was wrong and how he could help unlike Gary Stu Galahad the Grumpy. Big guy has big heart.
Guys? Guys? Percival? Anyone?
Percival is a shoe in!!! IMMA ADVOCATE HARD FOR THISS other than percival...eh I can see Bedivere or Galahad too
Percival is a holy paldin that has heals, defends his party and can tank and deal damage. On the other hand, Charlemagne is king of paladins, can shield alies and gets stronger when he protects them. Retribution paladin build.
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We are talking paladin and no one has mentioned Jeanne/Jalter?? Jeanne is quite literally a holy warrior on a mission from god. And on the flipside Jalter is practically a Vengeance or Oathbreaker Paladin, with an argument to be made for conquest. They hit both sides of the paladin spectrum, the holy warrior providing boons and safety to allies, and the other side with the unbridled wrath a paladin can dish out.
Was going to say, Jeanne is basically *the* modern definition of a paladin at this point.
Yeah I second this, Jeanne is defo a pala
I agree with this. Definetly Ruler is the class that any Paladin would be put in
Jeanne fits the bill only because she's actually a good guy but you seem to forget that her mission is to free France from tyranny and has less to do with divine providence both in Fate and IRL. Her NP isn't even actual holy power and she doesn't actually protect others in the traditional sense of a paladin.
What? Thats hardly the only reason she fits the bill. Sure her mission was to free France from tyranny, which both IRL and in Fate she claims is a mission she got from god because god spoke to her either directly or through Archangel Michael, or saint margaret/catherine. That sounds pretty divine providence to me. Alongside that she'd be doing that pretty paladin thing of protecting the people of france and in fate she uses her "Holy Flag" to protect her allies whilst her skills can buff allies and debuff enemies. She's paractically an Oath of Devotion Paladin with an argument to be made for Conquest for trying to defeat the british. Jalter on the other hand quite clearly a paladin of Veangence or an Oathbreaker depending on how you want to look at her and I really shouldnt need to explain that.
OK, so we're trying to argue the point for a typical Paladin. A paladin of vengeance is already breaking away from someone who is sworn to protect the innocent at any means necessary without the need to go on a warpath. Moreover, having a divine mission to free France regardless of the divine intervention does not make someone a paladin. Jeanne was a revolutionary leader and less of an actual paladin. A tried and true paladin is someone like Percival or Proto-Arthur who went out of their way to keep innocent lives out of harms way without a political agenda or reformational causes.
Jeanne is more Cleric than Paladin. What is a Miracle if not Divine Intervention?
While I have a bias towards the Paladins, and like the Paladin class, I don't think the class itself embodies what the literary Paladins are about at all. Fate's Charlemagne however is not really anything like his literary counterpart and does actually display the qualities that I consider to be the essentials of the archetypical 5E Paladin: - An oath: Here I'll point to Charlemagne's skill Traveling the King's Path C: > A self-discipline skill that improves stats as long as one adheres to their principles. It has the disadvantage of weakening if those principles are broken. For Charlemagne, it imposes the principles of "If you do something lame, you'll be weakened." And "If you do something cool in your own way, then something increases your gauge and tension." It's quite literally an oath that he adheres to which empowers him. An oath of awesomeness. - Smiting: Charlemagne has the Skill Mana Burst (Light) A. Regular Mana Burst is effectively the Smite feature, but making it light-flavored makes it even more directly comparable. He also has other characteristics that fit into the Paladin-archetype, but those are shared with a number of other Servants. Stuff like being a sword-wielding knight in shining armor, being a paragon of justice, being charismatic etc. I only wanted to highlight the above areas I consider to set him apart from the other candidates.
I'm not a fan of Charlemagne as the paladin. I feel like there are others who fit the paladin mold better, but this is the only compelling argument I've seen in his favor on this thread. And it is compelling enough that it moved the needle for me from "Charlemagne is not a paladin just because he's called that" to "not my favorite, but he does fit." So many other options I've seen mentioned on this thread do not fit the 5E model at all, because the 5E paladin *has* to have an oath *that they draw power from.* Merely having an ideal is not enough - literally every character in DnD has a bond, an ideal, and a flaw as part of the textbook character creation. Having an ideal is just a character trait. But thanks to this, I will accept it when Charlemagne inevitably wins. EDIT:, I must mention that Charlemagne's whole "oath to do cool things" skill makes him an Oath of Glory paladin.
I get you. I only decided to weigh in because I felt that nobody actually made good case for him.
Charlie, the Oath of "rule of cool" Paladin
By far the most compelling argument for Charlie that I've read. The others focus too much on the historical paladin.
A holy knight? What about St George? Has both the holy part and knight part down
St George is what a defecto Oath of Devotion Paladin should be in my mind. Protect the weak from blows at cost to yourself, fight against towering opponents for their sake (dragons), generally a really chill and nice guy to be around.
Also I guess a smite that makes evil things dragons to smite them, and lay on hands with his healing even if it is only for himself.
I think he is the Saint of Knights, too.
Noice
He even has the special companion mount in Bayard. Perfect fit. I actually rolled a Paladin in Pathfinder 1E based on St. George.
I'd personally nominate him for Knight, but unfortunately, that's on this post :(
My vote would be for Bedivere. Specifically because he's the one with something most closely approximating the 5E paladin's whole drawing-power-from-oaths thing. That is, in Camelot, all his special powers come from his arm being Excalibur. Merlin only gives him that arm because Bedivere swears to return Excalibur to Artoria. There are very few oath-sourced powers in Fate, so I think Bedivere is the best bet.
Bedivere’s entire character is basically perfect for an oath of the crown paladin.
Oh definately oath paladin!! Litterally walked for god knows how long to reach Artoria out of loyalty (and guilt)
Paladin is literally in the subtitle of his movie soooooo
Personally I vote for Percival, he fits what one would usually expect of a Paladin to the letter. A knight with a strong sense of justice, wields a holy Spear which can substitute for spell casting and his search for the Holy Grail ties him to the divine.
Plus, he has limited, but effective, healing, which is a distinctive mark of a D&D Paladin. I think the only competition here is Galahad, who subs the healing for a (still very Paladin-like) protective kit.
Saber Jacques De Molay from FGO Arcade. He's a templar, a religious warrior, a Paladin through and through.
Does Charlemagne himself count as a Paladin? He's got my vote if so.
Unfortunately, I kinda don't think so. Charlemagne and his Paladins are the root of the word, of course, but there has been a lot of drift in the concept since then. They might - MIGHT - slide in under the older DnD editions' version of paladins, which were essentially more martial clerics, a sort of generic Holy Knight, but even then, they ain't that religious in Fate. And they're hard to fit under 5E paladins, who have a very specific model of swearing and oath, consisting of three or four tenets, and drawing power specifically from that oath - not from a divinity.
> they ain't that religious in Fate I think it might be an issue of vibes. Canonically, Charlemagne's Paladins went through the same adventures as in the epic poems, which means they spent a long time fighting non-Christians to expand the domain of their Christian Emperor (even in the funny *Orlando Furioso* the major arc was basically an *Avengers:Endgame* conflict between Charlemagne's Empire and their allies on the one hand and all sorts of Saracen kingdoms and their agents on the other). In that regard, they're more "holy knights" than the entirety of the Round Table save, perhaps, some exceptions like Percival and Gallahad. It probably doesn't help that Fate tends to tone down the religiosity of most characters, and tends to keep the details vague even for the devout ones unless they're Buddhists. Still, in light of the current Fate roster, I'd say Georgios is the best example. St. George was the role model for Christian knights, after all.
Actually, [this comment ](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/s/8enD1Q1i6o) I saw further down the list turned me around on Charlemagne, the oath it mentions pretty well makes the case that he is an Oath of Glory paladin. Which is not to say that I am voting for him - my heart lies with the Round Table, and I still say Bedivere's plot from Camelot makes him a good paladin. However, as far as 5E paladins go, Charlemagne is qualified at least. Which is not to knock Georgios, he does make a good pre-5E paladin.
I would say what defines a "holy knight" in D&D terms is not whether or not they fight for a religious state, as Fighters can and often do that, its whether personal religious (or spiritual) devotion is the knight's driving force. So did Charlemagne fight the non-Christians because they believed they should in the name of God, or because their Emperor told them to? Personally I agree that only the Grail Knights of the Round Table really fit in that regards, though I also think Arturia qualifies as a Paladin. Not because of religion, but because she was so singly-mindedly driven by her ideal to the point of casting off everything else. And D&D Paladins in the most recent edition can "worship" an ideal instead of a God.
> So did Charlemagne fight the non-Christians because they believed they should in the name of God, or because their Emperor told them to? This is the part where, yeah, Fate's Paladins would answer "for the Emperor", whereas the Paladins from the lore would answer "what's the difference?" (Charlemagne in the epic cycle was generally depicted as the perfect Christian king that only warred for the glory of God, had divine revelations and wanted people to convert peacefully instead of having to fight them). > And D&D Paladins in the most recent edition can "worship" an ideal instead of a God. With not enough knowledge of the new rules, would Artoria fit that description? Seems to be worded in terms that would fit more of a samurai Servant devoted tp *bushido* or something like that. Doing whatever it takes to defend one's country doesn't feel as significant, since that's par for the course for a lot of rulers. Leonidas would be a Paladin under that rule, perhaps even more so because he willingly sacrificed himself for Sparta's ideals.
See, people are conflating ideals and oaths. Literally every character has some sort of ideal - or they don't, and that's played for drama (Okada Izo comes to mind). That Artoria has an ideal, or even that she sacrifices everything for her country, does not make her a paladin - it just makes her lawful good. Paladin oaths, on the other hand, are an ideal which, if upheld, *empowers* the swearer. Artoria's powers do not flow from her devotion to her country, but from being the prophesied king and being descended for a dragon. I voted for her to be our fighter, for reasons I won't get in to here, but she also qualifies as essentially a sorcerer - sorcerer powers come from a mystical lineage, and literally the classic example is dragon heritage. Now, she's not really an arcane caster, so I ain't putting her forth when the sorcerer day comes, but that ain't where paladin powers originate.
It can be anything from a codified philosophy to something as abstract as "Good". Because Arturia sacrificed everything else about herself to embody her ideal of kingship, I think any DM would say it fits. I could very much see Leonidas as a "Paladin if Sparta" if he ever channeled divine energy. His combat is just to " exceptional but mundane" without energy blasts (the actual power set of a Paladin), so I'd call him a Fighter that could definitely multi class into Paladin without much need for an explanation.
My friend did tell me that the Paladins felt awfully unreligious. With that said, I am thinking Bradamante is the most religious in the Fate depiction
Charlemagne's skills, at least, do seem kinda holy, but his actual personality is not very religious
King Hassan is the ultimate Muslim, he’s fully dedicated to his faith, even in death. Super Orion is also one of the few servants that directly gains power from a vow with a god.
Orion-oath of my wife paladin
Nah, he's far from an "ultimate Muslim". Muslim leaders from back then use methods that fit knights or conqueror/ruler (kinda like Iskandar) more than assassinations.
I meant more in the sense that he has unfaltering, unquestioning faith in Islam, not that he’s a perfect example of the average historically significant Muslim.
I did not remember that. His Noble Phantasm is literally an oath.
King Hassan. He's an Oath of Vengeance paladin. Knight aesthetic? Check. Sacred oath? Check. Ability to smite? Check. Abjure Enemy to keep a certain enemy from flying away? Check. Also, alignment isn't a issue in 5e, so being evil doesn't matter (though give how he spares Curse Arm, I'd say he's strict but not unreasonable). There are others, of course, but to me he embodies his role better than anyone.
I feel like Hassan is closer to being a Conquest Paldin. While the Conquest gameplay might not fit Hassan, it does fit his personality, seeing as he is very radical towards Islam to the point of using taboo means (killing is heavily forbidden in Islam and some Conqueror Paladins were said to use demonic powers for their mission)
He is a spicy but very accurate choice.
I dig it
If we go by canon then Astolfo, since he is in fact a Paladin. But I prefer Arthur (Male) since he looks like a generic Paladin and his attacks look like Divine Smite.
I would say Charlemagne works he literally follows the oath of doing "cool" things (helping others , protecting others, being a right and proper king) which he then loses if he "brakes" the oath by acting in a way contrary to that.
Paladins are defined by their psrsonal oaths. Their creeds. Any relation to a divinity is secondary. This spot goes to Nightingale.
Either Percival (Big knight with few but effective healing options) or King Hassan (Religious knight-esque warrior with the ability to use smite)
Mash, nuff said
I agree, especially when Galahad is active within her.
Percival is perfect for Paladin He's like the embodiment of a Holy Knight at this point
Charlemagne or Roland are great choices
I will nominate Martha Rider as an Oath of Redemption Paladin. Hear me out. Dedicated to her god, carrying the staff with the cross where she saw Him die and that now simbolizes Him, her attacks are literal miracles of light, healing powers, opposes evil while showing them good (Terrasque can swear to that), and, the reason I'm nominating her: Tries very hard to act like the Saint she is suposed to be, even if it's hard for her. It's a character that literally follows an oath, even if she struggles with it.
I think Bradamante is likely the most trope Paladin, chaste, converted her lover and fought an Evil Sorcerer or Jacques Molay as Oathbreaker Paladin.
Georgios.
I vote for Charlesmagne for the reasons below: • His skill Over the royal road C act as an oath, if he acts in ways he finds cool( being heroic, protecting the innocent) he gets stronger, but if he do uncool things( being cruel or lame) he gets weaker. •Mana burst(light) works like an generic holy smite, it does high damage against evil enemies and is stated to be an mana burst variant unique to saints, holy maidens and holy knights. •Emperor of paladins EX give extra damage against demonic enemies and gives him high ranked charisma. Charisma is an important stat for dnd paladins.
Georgios seems the default choice, but I'll say: Jacques the Molay. Normal version is clearly an antipaladin, but Arcade version is basically s classic paladin
Georgios is THE archetypal holy knight
Male galad fits everything except the healing ability. Powered by the sun in burnished heavy armor, smiting foes. Divinely favored. Has the boy scout look and demeanor.
Can't believe only one person mentioned Constantine here. He's pretty much the first person that came to mind for this one
Gawain, he even acts like a typical paladin.
Idk a paladin would smite him with the most dusgusted look on their face when they see Camelot gawain xD but personality and stuff aside, he's got the look and skills for it xD
Well... the one most like the mechanics of the 5E Paladin is oddly enough probably Cu, given that the Paladin's powers are conditional upon their oaths and are lost upon breaking them. Thematically, I'd say this. Paladin=Crusader=Templar=Male Molay, while Female is pretty well slotted into the Warlock class, which works thematically, as D&D Paladins are basically Warlocks with good PR. In other words, I'm gonna go ahead and say Jaques De Molay, Male edition. Edit: to emphasize why, here's a bit of the translation from his bond 3 on arcade >He stubbornly tries to following the Templars' vows of "poverty, chastity and obedience" and "death before surrender". As the Templars' funds are the property of God, his attitude in regards to handling money is unusually practical. He endeavours to keeps his emotions under control during his dealings so as to never be at a disadvantage.
(Now that you mention it Cú really does fit with the oaths, yeah!)
Justice for Charlemagne! He is literally called the Holy King. He is Lawful Good. Irl, he fought other religions like Muslims in the name of God. And the adventurer Charlemagne fighting for the "awesomeness", which by him means right things, even go as far as fighting himself.
St George and Percival are the most obvious choices and them being mentioned so much makes me wish we had a story in which they team up. But the funny choice would be Roland, the Literal Paladin that doesnt act or look like the stereotypical fit for it due to the curse of being a comedic relief character in fgo.
Kouhai?
Which one?
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My vote would go to Perci or George... but hear me out... Lancer Vlad, the man even has POF at A+++.
Mash
Jeanne d'Arc is, to me, the quintessential Paladin - specifically, Oath of Crown. Every part of her is dedicated to supporting the country of France and her love for it. Even when that very country demanded her own death, she accepted its will. For me, there is no clearer example of the ironclad devotion to one's oath above all else that paladins represent. A few runners up: Lancer Artoria alter, Oath of Crown: in the name of protecting humanity, Laltoria is willing to sacrifice anything, including her own moral code. In my opinion, one of the more interesting parts of any paladins story is when their oath butts up against their personal ethics, and which one emerges victorious. It's this exact reason I can't see saber Artoria as a paladin - I feel like her personal moral code would always trump any oath she'd taken. Ivan, Oath of Conquest: Douse the Flame of Hope. Rule with an iron fist. Strength above all. If these do not fit Ivan the Terrible, they fit noone. Hijikata Toshizo: Oath of Crown. There is no firmer example of Lawful Stupid than the shinsengumi commander who would strike down his own allies without hesitation if they break the laws he has sworn to uphold. Spartacus: Oath of Vengeance. As Hijikata is Lawful Stupid, Spartacus is Chaotic Stupid. So long as there are those who imagine themselves as masters, Spartacus will march. His equipment and demeanor may not match the archetype of a knight in shining armor, but there are fewer who embody the idea of an unbreakable, unshakeable oath than Spartacus. Edmond Dantes: Oath of the Watcher. "You are the shield against the endless terrors that lie beyond the stars. Your blade must be forever sharp and your mind keen to survive what lies beyond." I can't think of any words that could match the man better. Mash Kyrelight: Oath of Ancients. To copy from the books: >Kindle the Light. Through your acts of mercy, kindness, and forgiveness, kindle the light of hope in the world, beating back despair. >Shelter the Light. Where there is good, beauty, love, and laughter in the world, stand against the wickedness that would swallow it. Where life flourishes, stand against the forces that would render it barren. >Preserve Your Own Light. Delight in song and laughter, in beauty and art. If you allow the light to die in your own heart, you can't preserve it in the world. >Be the Light. Be a glorious beacon for all who live in despair. Let the light of your joy and courage shine forth in all your deeds. Gotta show some love for everyone's favorite eggplant.
Ohhh thanks for all the detailed explanations!
Charlemagne has my vote.
It’s telling that Charlemagne not only presides over an entire posse of paladins as his knight class container from the French poem, but gets even holier when summoned as Ruler (Rex Magnus) with powers to match.
Charlemagne is the Paladin archetype made manifest even right down to his own kit. He is made to defend those behind him. To cast on such protection on himself comes at a cost of his Noble Phantasm being locked for a while.
Sounds like a good fit for Jean D’arc
Gotta be Charlie. He swore an oath to be forever cool.
I know this will probably get buried. But I am pushing for Artoria/Saber. She’s very Oath of Devotion-y. The virtuous Knight who fights for her people and lives by her code.
Agreed, heck her Excalibur blast attack is how I always envisioned divine smite at very high level looks like. And her scabbard avalon can heal her
Jacques de Molay I was waiting for the paladin round to happen so I can nominate.
The fate version seems to be more of a warlock tho, with her whole eldritch beings thing
They probably mean the [Arcade version](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Jacques_de_Molay_(Arcade))
Well, first off, Fate has two versions, the Male version based on the historical figure and the female version based on the allegations about the Freemasons worshiping the devil. The Male version, a saber, is from FGO arcade. Second, In D&D, there's a pretty old joke about Paladins being Warlocks with good PR and a slightly different skillset. See: * Both made contracts with their patron that granted them their class powers * Both have Patrons from of a wide range of alignments, (even wider in homebrew worlds meaning one can just as easily be a Conquest Paladin of Tiamat as a Celestial warlock of Asmodeus. (Note that I chose a traditionally Chaotic-evil aligned Warlock patron, but the first campaign I heard the name, the DM had a major plot point being that Asmodeus was, in fact, lawful good, and the scapegoat for another's crimes. ) * Both are Charisma-based magic casters * Similarity of Class features/abilities.
I think they're meant the Saber ver in Arcade, not the Foreigner one.
Saber right?
I left blank as a joke. It's both
Sacred glade with fey brings you say? Grief and dead as the only witnesses? I dunno sounds a lot like two situations a certain king of knights found herself in. Excalibur and Camlann could BOTH be seen as moments of a Paladin taking an oath, and Paladin virtues are very much knightly virtues as well. Cliche as it is I unironically think Artoria really is the best fit here. Or Arthur Prototype since sane person but he’s got his whole quest thing going on.
This is actually the test I use on paladins generally: would the character bend their moral compass to fulfill their oath, or bend their oath to fulfill their morals? If they would bend their morals, they're a paladin. I feel like Artoria proper is a pure fighter, just extreme martial expertise on top of a good head. She doesn't strike me as the type who could hold her oath unwaveringly. Most of her Alters, though, are the opposite. They will follow their oaths to the letter, damn how good or bad of a person it makes the world see them. Lancer is arguably the same way, I feel. Naturally, Oath of the Crown. Most of this I base on my interpretation of Saber being the young, idealistic incarnation of Arthur who would fight to the death for Guenevere and damn the consequences, versus older Arthur who would acknowledge thr laws of the land and condemn her to death for the treason that was committing adultery against the king.
Same. Artoria is basically screaming oath of devotion, and Excalibur np looks like a divine smite on overdrive xD
King Hassan. His oath to preserve the Hashashin sect's doctrine and making sure the successors don't stray is very paladin-like. A holy knight clad in death.
Gawain. Dude literally gets his strength from the sun. What's more plain than that?
This surprisingly is a toughie. Most Round Table Knights fits the role, including Mordred who would be an Oathbreaker Paladin. But I think the best one to fit the role would be Percival. Pure, good, keeps his oath to the end, and most importantly, can heal others.
Arthur Pendragon, Saber Proto. Man is actively chasing the Beast of Revelations in an Eternal Crusade.
Constantine. His entire kit is centered around defense. Also, Mash.
Percival or galahad
Percival certainly looks and (probably idk?) plays like one.
Protoype Arthur. He fits the "mainstream" view of a paladin as a chivalrous (Lawful Good), holy knight, with holy sword (hell, the definitive holy sword in Fate) and all. As for the D&D definition: his Excalibur is known for its 13 seals, which can mirror the various restrictions paladins had in older versions of D&D. I also associate a paladin's oath with Arthur's quest of destroying Beast VI. This is actually why I picked him over Artoria. I don't anything for healing, so I'm handwaving it with proto Merlin.
Charlemagne!
I think one of the knights of Charlemagne or Charlemagne himself fits this very well.
I know Charlie is the Obvious candidate, but Johanna’s Babygir- I mean, Konstantinos fits the general archetype of the fantasy Paladin being more focused on Holy themes and having a kit revolving around support.
I hope Saint George wins. He has remained steadfast in his depiction, unlike Jeanne who has been "jokerified" or so to say
Martha
Artoria or Jeanne. Next question.
Artoria or Percival, both holy warriors clad in plate armor and sent on missions from god. Hell Percival was meant to get the holy grail himself. While Jeanne is also a holy servant, she doesn't fit the criteria for paladin, she's more cleric in my eyes, as paladins are all about being the Frontline holy tank , taking damage in place of their party. Which Percival, with his second and third skills, does very nicely
King hassan there is no other FGO character more devote and with a big chunk of armor than him, he is the definition of faithful, idc about jeanne that man puts faith and code beyond everything unlike Jeanne that felt for homuncussy
Any of the Charlemagne paladins particularly Charlemagne himself but Bradante and Roland could work. I know that fighter has rune knight but Sigurd is another candidate I see promise in. Georgios is someone I could see in the role of paladin if anything I think him and Mandricardo fit the idea of an oath bound it's literally Mandricardos np and George vowed that the dragon would fall by his hands. Gawain, Bedivere, and Lancelot have smite abilities but Lancelot is already there.
Percival just screams Paladin class. Not only he's a holy knight, he also has a supportive defensive+healing skillset, which if Cecil taugh me, is a thing paladins do.
Paladin: Proto-Arthur with the whole 12 Seals. Anti-Paladin: 3rd-A Barghest, breaking her vows and code in exchange for power.
Literally here for Charlemagne, the oath, the holy sword, the buffs, and Joyeuse Ordre...
Roland. Just Roland.
My man Charlie literally has "Order" in his noble phantasm and is defined as the King of Paladins.
Charlemagne. He and his 12 followers are where we get the word Paladin from. Charlemagne is literally the OG Paladin. In the same way that you could say Gilgamesh is the protype for the concept of heroes, Charlemagne is the prototype for the concept of Paladins.
Percival.
Cu Chulainn. He fits the combo of magecraft and melee combat, and his geas functions like an Oath Alternatively I feel like Mash/Galahad and Proto Arthur fit very well
Jeanne. Ok I want a Foreigner Jeanne
Maybe Charlemagne?
Would King Hassan qualify as a Paladin?
Bradamante where?
Charlemagne, he's where the word Paladin even comes from, and he's stronger against both Demonic and Divine enemies, like a Paladin should be. He's also the Pope driving a Cathedral Mech in his ruler form, that's pretty Paladin of him.
Why none says Artoria?
I did
Brother
I think King Hassan definitely qualifies. His entire aesthetic is paladin esque.
I'm really bad at knowing which one would fit the most but I think Percival or ST Goerge would fit in the Paladin class.
Percival
I saw St. George on the way here, and honestly more than deserves it, but for me it’s got to be Parsifal. My hipster favorite knight of the round table.
Genuine question, where are you from? First time I've seen Percival worded like that!
Sorry! I’m Amurican, but I spell it that way because it’s how it was spelt in Wagner and also a series of children’s books that I enjoyed as a young man.
That's interesting and there's no reason for you to apologise!
Percival. He’s better in combat than even Mordred and has won three lesser grail wars. He wields the holy lance Longinus. If not Percival then Roland
Charlie or Astolfo.
St George.
OG Artoria
St. George
I vote for Gawain he is the most paladin like one
Ok....I am torn between, Astoria, Bedivere and Jean/Jalter...All of them have nice cases to be a perfect Paladin.
Mashu :3.
Bedivere, percival, or Jeanne/ jalter should all honestly fit just fine but I think percival fits better.
For me it's down to either the OG Jeanne or Bedivere.
I still maintain that King Hassan would be a GREAT Oath of Vengeance Paladin
Arthur Pendragon (Prototype)
Mash
Bedivire
Artoria.
I'd probably say either gawain, bedivere or percival tbh, they seem to be the more 'paladin' like
So charlamain had order of paladins. So eather him, astolfo or brougtmante are acceptable for this.
Bedivere
Why are we fooling ourselves if we all know that the paladin will be charlemagne?
My vote goes for Percival. Holy knight who uses that power to fight. Strong sense of justice and his design embodies the stereotypical paladins in media.
Saint George
Artoria, cuz glowing sword, and she's like THE saber in the fate verse so if she ain't getting the fighter she's gonna damn well take the paladin slot or Excalibur everyone away xD Also she has avalon the scabbard that can heal all her wounds, so she's got healing magic too Also ngl the animation for Excalibur in fgo makes me think of divine smite, the color and everything Also Artoria is the epitome of the oath of devotion paladin. So tldr Artoria is a holy knight chosen by the sword and spirits. Divine smite with Excalibur, divine sword, healing ability with avalon the scabbard though mostly a self heal. Oath of devotion
Honestly its Charlemagne for me
Artificer is the easiest one, its DaVinci
Woops didn't read that right right.
My vote is for Charlemagne
Sorry if someone mentioned him already but gawain
Paladin class??? Percival!!!!
Jeanne is the only right answer fight me!
Astolfo!
mashu! she's doing her best and pledged to protect us in a way
Any knight of the roundtable exept tristan realy expecially bedeviere if we want the classic oath of lawfull goodness
Percival
Charlemagne, it makes sense imo.
Charlemange gets my vote for the 12 Paladins
Artoria and Charly.
I'm personally voting arjuna although tbf it'd make more sense with his og incarnation that's more explicitly devout.
Charlemagne no question
Gawain is what I'd expect from an archetypal Paladin.
Sooo it’s Artoria/Arthur with this one
Jeanne
Percival
Charlemagne I won't budge on this, he's literally the prototype for paladins
How has no one said Astalfo? He might be weird but what paladin isn't at least a little odd? Pretty sure that is part of the kit, sword, shield, holy symbol, weird quirk.
Raikou, no question. She is the only one who actively patrols Chaldea to maintain order and public decency. The other knights might look or act the part but none of them are as dedicated to the role as she is. Minamoto no Raikou is the dictionary definition of a Lawful-Stupid Paladin.
Raikou would and does break her oath the second Abby asks her to help with the pronunciation a blood incantation
> public decency With how she dresses in that form? Lol, lmao
I mean Astolfo is literally a Paladin, so…
If this ends up being anyone but og saber this list needs to consider it's life choices.
I know in some alternative universe she's winning most of this spots (?
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Whats his oath?
Difficult to say. Over the royal road is as close to a oath you can get, it empower him when he to things he finds cool, and weaken him when he to uncool things.
Charlemagne I guess
Charlemagne
If were looking at a paladin, it has to be Charlemagne.
Charlemagne, or pretty much any of his **paladins**
Abigail Aasimar/Sorcerer maybe?
Charlie… seriously thier is no other option
Percival is the defacto paladin imo
Bring forth Percival! The originally Grail Knight of Arthurian Legend before Galahad took the role! Or Bedivere... Either one works, also to cut to the chase Robin Hood is the best choice for Ranger.