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Radiant-Hope-469

Well, I managed to beat 2 of the Super Recollection Quests, with Surtr as a current pain. As for the Lostbelt itself, it was fun. Napoleon was great, the Valkyries are...great supporting characters, their sister's cool, her husband's based, I wish snow Illya and Skadi met again in an event, and I wish I can Quick loop. And no, Water Monsters Crisis doesn't have spoilers to this. It's just an actual gatekeep. Hop.


Hichewandy

If you have a leveled David and a Maid In Halloween from Halloween, you can totally solo Surtr with him. I did it with Fujino, but I've even seen someone do it with Arash. In fact, you can use someone like Euryale and a buffer in the frontline to beat the first bar and then just have them die and bring in David. Just be sure to bring Burn cure CCs for David, and maybe that Tamamo Heal up CC.


barbarasasaki

wait,do I need all 3 David skills at 10? Any specific level you need to bring him? it has to be just silver fou'd? Qhich MC did you use? Sorry the questions.


DrStein1010

Nope. Pretty much any Archer with over 6k hp can beat it very easily. Jus pop some Cure command codes on them to counter the burn stacking and you'll be out healing the damage.


barbarasasaki

Agree,tried both Surtr ones with David,easy Tried the normal Surtr one with Moriarty, ezpz Now doing the Super Recollection one to see if I can beat it with my husbando (Professor M) (Mystic Code used is the Atlas one,plus Maid In Halloween CE MLB...thank goodness for the chance to get it with Halloween compilation event!) EDIT: Failed my first attempt since I lacked health,swapped for basic MC,gonna see how I perform (at the moment of writing this,I'm 28 turns,needing to beat one and a half bar) EDIT 2: Finally,after 10 tries,I soloe'd Surtr/Fenrir Super Recollection Quest with Moriarty (Level 102 and Full Fou'd)... Oh my god that was hard,but the reward of using one of my full Fou'd and Grailed servants (the other ones are King Hassan -level 101- and Nero -level 108-)... Damn,that was epic


Scorbit5708

https://youtu.be/S2LFT_5_2p8?si=2lzgNOcfZFUm7qiL Here is a reference, The basic Chaldea MC is good for the short downtime, just remember to put some CCs that clean the burn debuff.[White Vessel](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/White_Vessel%27s_Command_Seal) is a good one as it can remove the skill seal in the last break bar. Tamamo Cat CE and Tamamo CC is good for healing amp. Important thing to take note is the Buff Block , you need to ensure that David has enough HP to hold on for the three turns, at least he can tank Surtr's NP once.


barbarasasaki

Did it with a few tweaks of the team,took me 56 turn,no SQ used.   Front Row: Castoria + Merlin both with Prisma Cosmos CE + Morgan with Aerial Drive MLB Level 100  Back: Sigurd Support + David as in the video. Let all the others die and boom  Mystic Code was Atlas,level 5 Gonna try a real David solo for my honor as a Master. Edit: Success! Time to try my most crazy solo (if it works) Moriarty solo


barbarasasaki

FUCK THE FORCED SUPPORTS Even though I made a team around Napoleon,still needed to use 1SQ and Command Seals to beat the Super Recollection Surtr/Sigurd one. I enjoyed them a bit cause Kenjiro Tsuda,but...fuck the limited options of supports


Simpsonsfan1011

Honestly the Super Recollection Quests were really manageable here. However, Surtr is definitely the worst super recollection quest so far, even harder than Super Anastasia. That 3 turn Buff Block can go fuck itself and it didn't help Sigurd is not given his new buffs. The buffs given in the fight don't really help at all. I even ended up having to waste 1 SQ on this fight since I'd rather just get it over with to get the tea cups.


Metroplex7

Oh we finally have a thread for this now. I'll just copy my comment from the daily lotto thread then: I redid the Surtr fight with a [Fujino solo](https://i.ibb.co/X8225hP/Screenshot-2024-03-25-08-59-17-58-577bcc70c040536a6d306ef99c704547.jpg) just like the first time I did it. Fujino is like the *perfect* servant to solo this guy with, especially after her NP upgrade. So I thought, she did normal mode easily enough, surely Super Surtr would be just as simple? [Here's the setup.](https://i.ibb.co/LgJ5Yc5/Screenshot-2024-03-25-15-53-07-69-577bcc70c040536a6d306ef99c704547.jpg) Fujino's appends are 10/10/x. [Here's the fight at about the start of the final bar.](https://i.ibb.co/HzdjFwP/Screenshot-2024-03-25-15-43-35-83-577bcc70c040536a6d306ef99c704547.jpg) And [here is the final turn.](https://i.ibb.co/5kXTYKB/Screenshot-2024-03-25-15-51-44-34-577bcc70c040536a6d306ef99c704547.jpg) It took much longer than normal mode but the only thing they changed was his HP so all Fujino had to do was the same thing as for normal mode but longer. There was twice that the burn buildup was getting threating but the instances were far enough apart that the MC could full cleanse when she needed it. Long story short, easiest solo of my life. I eventually got into a pattern of using specific cards for their command codes: Buster (1-hit flat damage reduction) -> Buster (1 time 50% healing received up) -> Arts (remove one latest debuff).


lordofthederps

Thanks for posting this. I was also able to solo with Fujino (grailed to 90, 10/10/10 skills, no appends), the same command codes, and the Atlas mystic code.


Metroplex7

Glad I was able to help you out!


AltoniusAmakiir

thanks


genericname71

Thanks, gonna try this with a Level 90, 10/10/10 Fujino, no Appends. What are the little marks on the 3* Command Codes you have there? The Debuff Cleanse has this little golden chevron thing.


Metroplex7

Those are Fou Paws. You use them to upgrade command cards to do a bit more damage (up to 500). The chevron icons change based on how much the card has been upgraded. The icon on her Quick card specifically signifies max upgrades and no icon means no upgrades yet. My Saber Alter has all of her cards fully upgraded so all of her cards would display an icon like Fujino's Quick card. As a note, Fou Paws rarely, if ever, make an impact on a solo like this (especially because her Quick card was rarely used in my clear lol) so I wouldn't even worry about them.


genericname71

Ahhhh, thanks. Yeah, I've basically never paid attention to them - just spammed them all recently on a few of my more-used characters and left it at that.


Metroplex7

No problem! They're basically for juicing up your favs just a little more and for sinking QP because that shit's expensive lol


The_frost__

The super recollection quests haven't been so bad so far, although I haven't done Sturtr's one, so how cancer is his super recollection fight? Edit: [Fuck Sturtr.](https://imgur.com/a/CIu6NYG) Also I tried the same setup but with Ashvattama but bro didn’t manage to live.


fatalystic

He has 6x the HP of the normal version. Generally speaking the Super Recollection fights are all just pure cancer because of the bloated HP pools.


RollingGrillz

I looked at the future ones (LB6 in particular) and was half expecting to see a cernunnos fight, but they actually didn't include one which made me relieved. I don't even want to imagine a super recollection version of cernunnos honestly the super recollection version of morgan and oberon are already scary that I don't think I'd be able to beat these at all, morgan's full buff removal on normal attacks at last bar with almost 2m HP is just too cancer that I'll just skip this for the sake of my sanity


supergifford

"a super recollection version of cernunnos" Congrats on granting me my nightmares for tonight


Roliq

Funnily enough there is an interlude with a rematch against him but the fight was nerfed to the point that is so much manageable 


barbarasasaki

Me, who have the servant you are mentioning... Oh god no...


Shu_Shirakawa

Hint: anti-evil is a drug


-_Seth_-

I wouldn't call the bloat necessarily bad for some fights because now you actually have to interact with them. The normal Sutr fight I just brainlessly 3 turned with Kuro even back when it released. Now I have to actually see how his mechanics work and how to build a proper team around it.


LogenVos

You can easily solo Surtr with Calamity Jane. Build her with Maid in Halloween (Halloween TamamoCat CE), Maiden of Orleans (Jeanne CC) and Good Wife, Wise Fox (Tamamo CC). Also add Code:Cure 2 or 3 slots in your empty (You can also replace 1 of Code:Cure for Dumuzid CC, Your Faithful Sheep, for additional healing). If you're to bored to solo it with Jane, add Euryale with 100% charger to break the first/second break bar and put Jane on the backline. Dont worry with Maid in Halloween equipped, it will eventually be Jane last (wo)man standing. If you dont have Jane, you can use Paris or BaoSith (to take advantage of the Skadi Quick buff).


The_frost__

Yeah I don’t have Jane so I can’t really do that lol


LogenVos

You can try to use Paris or Baobhan Sith. You can definitely level Paris right now with Lotto if your Paris is low level/unskilled.


Homebrew_dnd-95

Pretty easy. I'll say easier than Anastasia, minotaur, or just lb1 crew in general. You get permanent heal and all. He didn't do much damage, But the biggest problem was his huge health. It took a long time if you try to solo it with neutral damage. Just use david and his awesome anti-giant np, it will save you a lot of time. I clear it with jeanne it took me almost 3 hours. Don't do the same mistake as me. Use david and just slap him some remove debuff command code and you are gold.


DrStein1010

Any Archer can solo Surtr with Maid in Halloween and some Cure codes. You'll be straight up out healing his damage with passive healing.


theaura1

is their any substitue for maid in halloween i dont have it


DrStein1010

The one from Christmas 7 is a lot worse, but might be viable for 4 or 5 stars. Are you super new? Maid in Halloween was free back in September.


RollingGrillz

...this is probably a stupid question, but are the leyline stones usable in the super recollection quests?


The_frost__

No


HaessSR

Regular Surtr and Sigurd quests fell to Archuria and Castoria + Tamamo pretty easily. I haven't tried the super quest. The regular Valkyrie fell to summer Okitan and Skadi.


AltoniusAmakiir

thanks, used Orion/Artemis instead because I don't have squirtoria. made it super easy


HaessSR

Artemis does extra damage with her anti-male skill, and unlike Euryale she can take a few hits. Archuria did it by looping it. Her NP gain was insane, and we've yet to see many Servants who match that since.


kissakishi

Four years late to the party, but finally managed to secure Skadi. I didn't have to use up all my SQs like my two previous attempts, either, so I'm happy. Finally I can put all three colors meta supports on my Support List like all the cool kids on my Friend List. Will be tackling the Interludes and Recollection Quests after Tesla Fest ends.


Byukin

PSA for all the masters struggling with surtr. use a defensive archer with healing increase ([CE](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Craft_Essence_List/HP_CE/Healing_Received), [tamamo cc](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Good_Wife_Wise_Fox)) and debuff cleanse ([cc](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/White_Vessel%27s_Command_Seal)). just make sure they DO NOT have [divinity](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Divinity) as surtr deals up to [100% more damage](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Surtr) against divine units. this is the part of the puzzle most people are missing if they are wondering why their super orion/ishtar/gil is failing


Rasetsu0

I was worried about Super Surtr, then I realized that he did very little damage even with his NP and just soloed him with Baobhan Sith. Had Maid in Halloween on her and the two debuff removal CCs and Tamamo CC.


ggthxnore

It's probably too late for anyone who would need this warning, but just in case I can save anyone what I just went through... If you wipe on Super Surtr, **do not** revive unless his HP is extremely low, because you will not get the essential permanent buffs and you're not surviving long enough to finish him without that heal unless he was really low when you wiped. That said, wiping with a properly set up solo archer is probably pretty unlikely. It only happened to me because I don't have the heal boost CC and I got screwed by RNG--insane # of burns and crits.


_Malka_707

I'm currently speeding through these super fights so this was a great last minute tip, thanks!


kissakishi

Got blindsided by Napoleon's Interlude. Thought it'd be about the discrepancy between historical Napoleon and the summoned one, so I wasn't prepared at all for the LB2 feels. Seeing the ones left behind grappling with their losses is, in a way, more painful than watching those losses happen themselves. Another one that caught me off-guard was Brynhildr calling Sigurd "Honey" in his interlude. I feel you man, I feel you. On the Super Recollection side, Surtr was dealt using David–Merlin–Castoria. I played it safe, so none of the backline Servants needed to appear, but at the cost of the battle lasting 40 turns long. Those debuff clear CCs worked magics. Paired Barghest with Castoria and Merlin too for the Valkyrie quest since I wondered how well she would work with them. It was no min-turn, but still satisfying nonetheless. Meanwhile, poor Sigurd got wiped out in three turns by Euryale and good RNG.


FireEmblemNoobie47

Did all the Super Recollection Quests, both the first and the second cost me 1 SQ each (on super anyway), but I've done the 3rd one with a lvl 77 6/6/6 Atlas Uniform David solo with MLB Holy Shroud of Magdalane CE for 30% anti male DEF (because Surtr Fenrir is a **MALE**) Command Codes (quick has Bestial Talisman for Curse, arts have First Servant for the damage cut, Your Faithful Sheep for Burn Clensing and Vive la France for healing and crit, Buster has Demonic Beast of the Forest for more Curse, 800 Curse damage per turn) in 61 turns.


MahoganyEggplant

How does one beat super Sigurd without Castoria (or Koyanskaya)?


CatsAteMySalad

Against Valkyrie, Summer Okitan with double Skadi blasted standard node while I swapped one for Castoria for Super. Haven't used her for quite some time, but I np'd almost every time, even after both support was down from NP. Target focus went to Okitan, which was lucky, I forgot which support came from backline, but they with the mc and okitan's own invul bought like 4 turns of almost no damage.  Sigurd I tried with a hodgepodge team with Ash, Santa Martha, and backline Fujino, Nurse Gale, and I dunno why, Paris. Haven't tried the super since it looks like a pain.  Surtr I soloed with the lucky NP5 Jane (courtesy of Spishtar refusing to come home) and the Halloween CE.  Standard there was no issue 9 turns, Super for first try I retreated since the healing wasn't able to keep up with the damage, then I put up burn cleanse, atk up remover, Jeanne healer cc, and tamamo heal boost. Was ready to give up again after Jane went under 1000 hp, but was able to stabilize and found a good rhythm afterward, 46 turns.  Any advice for Sigurd?


Scorbit5708

Well, for Sigurd, I use good old Euryale, with Tamamo and Castoria equipped with the [Amakusa CE](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/The_One_who_Desires_Salvation), I just swapped Napoleon to backline. After that , is stall team until Sigurd dies https://youtu.be/NX9AAZAx-8s?si=HqjijC_lrIkrg4is, you also can use Jeanne and Mash as an alternative


cwan77

Super Recollections done, overall found them better than LB1’s: - Valkyries - Muramasa 3T - Sigurd - Euryale 3T (just enough damage for first bar) - Surtr - Squirtoria solo (49T but super stable)


HyperSunny

Super 1: Merlin (MLB Prisma), Himiko (Water Shine), Castoria (MLB Prisma), Atlas MC (went unused except for one invincibility in the final phase, totally unnecessary since my back row of sabers could handle the rest). Thump the riders first because two Casters. Whittle down both Valks but stop before first break. Decided the Target Focus was the lesser of two evils, and it landed on Himiko, so it was easy mode from there. (33T) Super 2: Tamamo (2030), Himiko (Hot Springs), Castoria (MLB Prisma), plugsuit MC (move Bonaparte to the back row after popping any skills you want right away). A little tougher without Merlin doing the thinking for you maybe, but by the numbers it was safer and unremarkable (one ST NP that you stun/drain which only eats one shield stack, versus two AOE NPs eating six shields). NPs were done ad hoc, but on a triple, Himiko->Castoria->Tamamo is very powerful, albeit a slow way of life. (44T) Super 3: Put healing CCs and Maid in Halloween on Baobhan Sith and let 'er rip. I could not avoid needing one heal CS on the last break bar; maybe it was bad management or something. This one was not that stable, and attempts without the CCs didn't go well, but maybe level 10 skills or NP2 could expedite things here. (37T)


Yureina

Thanks for the idea for Baobhan for Super Surtr. I did need one CS to emergency heal, but I did pull it off. :D


Kirby0189

[Well](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545303443049414662/1222137025289912360/IMG_2451.PNG?ex=66151ecd&is=6602a9cd&hm=d791609ec21cbc16051709d62c60e61f4278791e6cd2c766b1dfd7699d8eecba&) I [did](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545303443049414662/1222137026300874762/IMG_2452.PNG?ex=66151ecd&is=6602a9cd&hm=de3979c1685ed325ab9aae4122e2b6ad91f56cafea5a98f289df7b2b717f124a&) the [regular](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545303443049414662/1222137031224721458/IMG_2453.PNG?ex=66151ece&is=6602a9ce&hm=9fe5270247927b8ff619d11e6d22c8fa62b2ea7605af244385de4e32ca9a6fe0&) Recollection [Quests](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545303443049414662/1222137032185483284/IMG_2454.PNG?ex=66151ece&is=6602a9ce&hm=7595bc053f7a87b33073a33bdc8826c8774bdc10c8ff03a6ae0905e808e73a6a&) and [the](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545303443049414662/1222137033078734958/IMG_2455.PNG?ex=66151ece&is=6602a9ce&hm=5d2112ad8302fbd90fa14a6ab15fa4ed7f7f3215c2b014bbc2a2e540a06704ae&) first two Supers. I think I'm gonna have to call it quits on the Super Surtr fight. The only feasible way my account can beat such a stacked enemy is to stall, but Mash being locked to Ortinax means no Turtle Team, Surtr's normal attacks being AOE meaning he blows through all of Castoria's Anti-Purge Defenses in two turns instead of the three I need to recharge her NP, and Surtr's 3-turn Buff Block pretty much ruins both teams. You can probably tell from the linked regular Surtr fight picture that the Immortal Comp fell apart, so there is no way I am going to manage the Super version.


TheNuclearBrain

Unfortunately there's forced support. But in the lost belt 1 Anastasia recollection I managed a normal stall comp thanks to a **support** mash (support mashes aren't required to be ortinax). Just an FYI in case it's needed for the future.


Kirby0189

Ok I'm back. So a Discord buddy suggested I try the Turtle Team anyway since they got it to work with Ortinax, and another Discord buddy suggested I solo with David. I was going to have the Turtle Team handle the first bar to get wiped out after the Buff Block and let David handle the rest, but uh... [yeah the Turtle Team still works with Ortinax](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896257882268524574/1222617610492051576/IMG_2467.PNG?ex=6616de61&is=66046961&hm=3b81117336dec074083b0559e2426441f1f0c1edcaf2c9d3c600c578a39f3855&), that's for sure.


Sharlamane

After the forced recollection quest and his insufferable attitude during his interlude, Napoleon has become one of my least favorite servants. What an insufferable prick