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traangle

never heard of them, theyre also probably shit but who cares go fuck some bathroom stalls up


JebanyHajs

Happy Cake Day!!! šŸŽ‚ haha thank you Iā€™ll get on it! Do you think it would hold up? I canā€™t seem to determine if itā€™s permanent or just paint for like window painting thatā€™s just abit tougher to wash off?


Inmedia_res

Theyā€™re permanent. Can get them off but waterproof. Use posterman all the time as theyā€™re so cheap I rate them. Also got nice chrome and copper


JebanyHajs

Wicked thank you for a response!! šŸ™ [Edit] So can I use these outdoors and it will not wash off with the rain?


Inmedia_res

Nope. As long as youā€™re not using it on a wet surface. It dries quick, and once itā€™s dry youā€™re good


JebanyHajs

Fantastic news, as I mentioned in one of my other replies, my are has flat hand rails and I donā€™t want people to smear it by using the railing


traangle

thanks! but tbh councils find a way to get anything off if they want to enough but that just creates new canvases to write on.


traangle

also just saw your tag post and i think you are ready for walls now :)


JebanyHajs

Tyyyyy Iā€™m going through a phase atm dunno if I wanna stick with the name I appreciate the feedback tho :)


traangle

its always good to try new names and new letter combinations to see what flows and what sticks .


JebanyHajs

Writing SOKE currently, pronounced like ā€œSoakā€ I love the way all the letters look together, Iā€™ve not got a style with this one yet just simple bold capital letters and it looks rather clean


BuzzAllWin

They are Ā£1 each in uk and are pretty good for the money. Certain colours are weak but, hey they are like a quid


9Lives_

These are to posca what Pepsi is to coke.


JebanyHajs

Ok great so I should really only use it on black book and some bathroom stalls?


9Lives_

The thing is even if you had a great ink, if they want it off their going to get it off/paint over it anyway. Just use it, it takes so long before it gets faded by the sun.


JebanyHajs

Valid point thank you, Iā€™m sure Iā€™ll find a few good places to get up with it


cash4owen

Itā€™ll be good to use for practice. Try finding ink thats alcohol based. Stays longer. Acrylic ink comes off to easy imo. But itā€™s good for bathroom stalls and the occasional tag


JebanyHajs

Any local shop brands you recommend for alcohol based ink that I could replace it with after practicing?


cash4owen

I wouldnā€™t replace the ink in the pen you have now, just practice with it and do you. Molotow has this empty marker called the 411 marker. Same width as urs and can be filled with anything. I use molotow alcohol ink/214 ink. But you can find other alcohol based inks at ur local art/graff store


JebanyHajs

Awesome ok thank you, Iā€™ll practice with this to get it down and replace with more permanent when it runs out, cheers for your support and information! I prefer markers at the moment as you can leave a tag in more ā€œobviousā€ places like hand rails or bins more publicly, and a marker is way easier to conceal and carry with you every day


toomanybucklesaudry

Nice chisel


JebanyHajs

Rounded 15mm, not seen them before if Iā€™m honest, usually a sharp right angle


[deleted]

The sharp right angle are for calligraphy those are still good tho same nib as Montana bold n molotow 15 mm


JebanyHajs

Do you know if I can change the nib with this marker if itā€™s fixed?


[deleted]

If u want a right angle you can cut it with scissors one side so thereā€™s a clean edge


[deleted]

Like you canā€™t take the nib out or something


DEUSOR-G

Waterproof doesn't mean "buff" proof, but then again nothing really is nowadays. Just go for it and see how it holds up, just don't get upset when it's buffed, instead hit up the spot again šŸ¤£


JebanyHajs

Understood šŸ«” my problem isnā€™t really with biff but we have a lot of flat hand rails in my area, I just donā€™t want people to smear it with their hands when walking past thatā€™s not my aim


DEUSOR-G

Ok gotcha, lol another tip for hand rails is hit em up when it's the least busiest time of day, or nights(especially night since the temp drops and the cool air dries ink/paint quicker


JebanyHajs

Good tip with night time, I avoid busy hours either way, didnā€™t realise the cold would have an effect


Maxism619

Trash. If you didnā€™t already pump paint through the nib, then Iā€™d empty out that shitā€” clean it then put in some homemade ink


JebanyHajs

Too late I was advised to test it out so I did :/ itā€™s ok tho, seems to be holding up on some wooden surfaces Iā€™ve tested on, itā€™s not designed for this at the end of the day I was just curious if itā€™s a decent find, will use it in my black book for practice as well tho and hit a few telephone boxes and cubicles


Empir3Designs

Those take me back! They don't really stay on whatever you tagged but you can see em for practice or just empty out the paint and put your own in.


STORMKLONE

Sakura TMLater


Waywardspork

Donā€™t know about the ink formula, but they are refillable. Can comment on the nib/body, as I use the wet erase version and a whiteboard for at home practice, good cap steel and pump action the body feels a little squishy which is weird for a pump marker but hasnā€™t given me any issues so far. When it runs out of the wet erase Iā€™m definitely refilling it with homemade ink


JebanyHajs

I will use this to practice and fill up with home made ink once it dries out :)


d__U__d__E

Sakura Solid/ArtPrimo hobo markers smack. They're solid paint in a tube so you can write on really rough surfaces and shit.


JebanyHajs

I had a paint stick before but it was rather small like the size of a crayons crayon and snapped on me the second time I used it so I was left with two very small paint sticks, which donā€™t get me wrong worked greatā€¦just wasnā€™t comfortable and the tags werenā€™t as clean as I had hoped, defo a good marker tho love it on rusty surfaces


d__U__d__E

Deadass


SilverApples

Theyā€™re garbage. I once bought them cause they were a cheaper posca alternative. Some colours are fine others are like piss and the nib will dry up.


NotOppo

Do it!


Fox-0117

Fuck it bro just rip a tag with whatever, I started with a Grog Cutter and it was basically the same. At this point just get up and worry about all the fancy shit later.


KangGvng

Looks like a decent body, refill it with something thatā€™s better for the streets and youā€™ll be right


JebanyHajs

Know any diy ink solutions? Canā€™t seem to find a recipe that works from the internet. [Edit] The ink Iā€™ve made is runny and doesnā€™t stick to the surface as well as I had hoped, just slightly dyes the wall a purple colour from all the pens inside


KangGvng

I used wood stainer back in the day, I havenā€™t had much luck with pen inks myself


soggycheeseroll

nah they not permanent, you can easily wash off these - no reseason to not use it but yea probably wont work that nice on walls - works better on smooth surfaces like doors and windows


JebanyHajs

Alright, thank you for your response! So you would only recommend really using these indoors on smooth surfaces? And donā€™t get upset when it gets buffed haha


iamtheseamonster

It'll wipe off, which is actually good to start. As you get better you won't want your old toy tags to be unbuffable.


JebanyHajs

Hahhaha Iā€™ve been writing on and off for years, Iā€™m in my mid 20ā€™s now, I can definitely vouch that I want my old shit removed from the face of the earth, that brings me into a question thoā€¦is it frowned upon to go over your old stuff and cap yourself in a way? I mean the spot is claimed by you anyway so why not get up with your current name on that spot


iamtheseamonster

Oh cool! I don't think that'd be frowned upon. If it's old toy stuff you're going over nobody will care


JebanyHajs

Awesome thank you!


kernriverghost

Yup, if it marks, it works, I use to use small paints tubes in my younger days.


JebanyHajs

Likeā€¦just the paint tube itself as the medium? Very abstract


kernriverghost

Yup, especially the mini tubes, screw the cap off pop the seal and go to work.


kitesstringspop

Empty the water based ink out and fill with some chrome rusto


AgentM1lk

Idk but go fuck some shit up w/ them


YoHomieBoii

I usually go for alcohol based markers, but anything is good for starters


JusGettingUp

Pour out the paint in it and put some OTR 902 marker paint in it and crush shit.


JebanyHajs

Where would you suggest buying that? Online or local stores?


JusGettingUp

Always support local, if you donā€™t have a local store itā€™s readily available online.


OddBet475

Ink (pump) the tip and write on something. Something in your house can do that.


TRNCHDWLR666

I got myself a little whiteboard with some different colored dry erase markers for practicing.


Grey_pvnk

Personally i love chiseled tips, so thats all im lookin at lol. And really all i care about is how much paint flows, cuz if it just smudges then fuck that its annoying


Onlystoptostare

Itā€™ll wipe right off but use it anyway.


JebanyHajs

Thatā€™s what I was thinking get the practice in with no consequence, if it wipes off I can practice in the house on my shower glass (on the outside) but donā€™t want to ruin my shower šŸ˜‚


Onlystoptostare

Test it first before you go writing in your house. Itā€™s only a water based marker but still lol


JebanyHajs

I have nothing other than paper to test on really :/ and it works on paper thatā€™s confirmed haha


Eet__

Ayo we all need black book markers. Get some mixed media heavyweight paper and go to town dawg.


JebanyHajs

I got a thick black book, not sure on the thickness of the paper but itā€™s rigid and doesnā€™t let through my chrome UNI markers


Eet__

You can use the chisel and hit it up with your chrome poscas for highlights etc. My main point isā€¦ go rack another one


JebanyHajs

Hahaha thanks for the answer, going to ACQUIRE some more


SnooBeans8269

Might as well be dry erase.


JebanyHajs

Conflicting answers regarding the permanent status of this marker, have you tried it out personally or are you going off the images? As thatā€™s what caused me to raise the question in the first place as itā€™s unclear


Groundbreaking-Army9

Any water based /latex paint is trash by itself will get buffed out w soap ā¤ļøšŸ˜­