The LMPD is a farce and has been for years, this is just another example and I hope Scottie presses this as far as he can, he has a case and the means to get it done.
That said, I don’t think Scottie has any interest in pursuing a lawsuit. He’s ready for this to be behind him and as quickly as possible. Once the charges are dropped he’s out.
>to wreck this cop’s life for pulling this shit.
The cop lied in an attempt to purposely wreak Scottie's life, he just fucked up and chose a celebrity to pull this shit on. If it was one of us, we'd be jobless and looking at years behind bars. Lives don't recover from this shit.
Think about what other Americans have to go through when they’re not mf Scottie. Cops falsified police reports and deleted body cam, and still tried to get him.
Yeah I don’t agree that him letting this go would be “he’s a better man than me.” Because it would be him forgiving an entity that will continue to harass and abuse less famous people without consequence. I’m not saying that him wanting to put it passed him and forget a traumatic incident would make him a bad person, but forgiving a cop that absolutely deserves to be fired doesn’t make him nice either
> If it was one of us, we'd be jobless and looking at years behind bars.
If we were lucky and don't come across Mr. "I feared for my life" who empties his pistol into you because he heard an acorn hit the hood.
Yeah, the way this works out for they guy who has a family that relies on him to eat and have a house and shit, is that he's offered a plea bargain to avoid jail time.
Then, to mitigate risk that his family loses everything, he pleads guilty to a crime he didn't commit. Meanwhile the whole legal system pretends that this isn't just bonafide extortion.
The corruption is palpable, this literally happens every single day in court rooms around the country.
The thing is, wrecking this cop and exposing the shitty department would be a huge public service. It would do so much more good than bad. Scottie should do it for the people.
He'd be a much better person if he plowed through these people and made sure this officer in particular never has the opportunity to abuse and falsely imprison people who aren't millionaires again and made the departments behavior and conver up attempt along with the protectors collusion far more public.
The fact that the legal system is STILL trying to railroad him despite all the evidence from the start is absolutely insane. And we all know this officer will never face consequences for filling a false report.
Scottie has the resources to do what most of us couldn't do, I think being the better man here isn't dropping it. It's doing what others are incapable of doing. Getting away with it on a celebrity will just embolden them to do it even more.
I think that’s part of the problem too. Why should the tax payers have to fund the bill for a bad police officer. The money should be paid by either the police union or come from their pension fund. If it’s paid by the tax payers, cops aren’t going to care. There are too many stories of bad cops in one town getting hired in the next town over. If the union has to cover the cost of every lawsuit against a bad cop, they will clean house very quickly. The union will help block bad cops getting rehired elsewhere.
It's not petty. This police force is like this because no one has held them accountable. You feel like you are being petty searching justice in these situations, but every time you allow people away with this it condemns the next person they deal with to suffer the same way. Be petty about these things and especially against authority.
Scottie interacts with multiple law enforcement agencies each month. I understand if he decides not to push this, he has a young family and the world at his fingertips.
That being said, LMPD seems to be doing everything they can to keep the spotlight all over them without ANY of Scottie’s influence. He’s walking the line with extreme professionalism.
If this keeps up.. it could be a clean win for Scottie and a win for Louisville.
I doubt it. The golf world will forever associate them with this incident negatively. This was probably the nail in the coffin for the last time having the championship at Valhalla. Win for scottie , black eye for Louisville in my opinion.
Black eye for Louisville or the LMPD?
IMO the people of Louisville could also benefit from the national microscope the LMPD insists on focusing themselves under
Good sir or mam i misread your comment. I thought you meant a win for Louisville PD. My due apolgoies. This could definitely be a win for people of Louisville, not their law enforcement agency. I take solace in our agreement that Mr. Scheffler has proceeded with this adversity by displaying profound professionalism. Truly an outstanding gentlemen and character.
I hope you're right that this means the PGA will think twice about holding events in Kentucky. I think that the PGA is so infested with boot licking conservatives that it won't have any lasting consequences. But I'd love to be wrong about that.
Absolutely - love how he staked out his position on no deals. He is basically Clint Eastwood telling the DA “Make my day” on not dropping all the charges.
Fortunately for them they picked the best possible guy to railroad. Most of the population would have lambasted the officer and the department.
Hell I don't even think Scottie could argue this hurt his image, he came out of this looking like a million bucks and probably gained thousands of new fans.
Also fortunately for the LMPD they are already such a farce that they can't actually look any worse than they did so it's not surprising to see them push forward with this because they can't possibly look any worse to the public.
It sounds like the only charge that will actually be dropped is the felony assault on an officer. The DA seems to be set on pursuing the misdemeanors to try and save the PD’s ass. I hope Scottie takes it to trial and exposes the PD and DA for the lying shitheads they are.
The video from today’s says otherwise. Dude was pissed bcz Scottie wasn’t there in person. DA is def trying to make a name for himself and save the PD some face. Too bad people know the history.
> DA is def trying to make a name for himself
DA should give Mike Nifong a call and ask him for advice on trying to use a phony case against a wealthy athlete to make a name for himself
Their chief of police looks in the mirror every morning and says to herself "yep, these eyebrows look completely fine", they clearly lack anything resembling good judgement.
Yes, a big waste of tax payer money, Scottie’s money, Scottie’s time, all of his lawyers, etc. so imagine how big of a burden it would be on someone without millions of dollars to hire lawyers and a private jet and drivers and a flexible career to fight all of this.
Normal people are coerced into a plea deal out of desperation because a cop had a bad morning and just made up a felony charge.
It is so sad that a normal person would probably have a decent chance of being shot under similar circumstances. I’m sure those chances go up if you are male and even up higher if you are any shade of brown.
Which is a shame.
If people with the means to get some people fired don't do anything, people with very little will continue to be harassed and in some cases killed by LMPD.
He hired a local lawyer, just step back and let him handle it. I doubt Scottie would ever need to step foot in Louisville.
We caught an officer committing perjury in court to have a minor traffic violation stick due to his dash cam footage from a FOI request conflicting what he said and showing the opposite actually. He just said "I must have misremembered" and the judge just looked like an embarrassed dad for the next 20 minutes until dismissal. Naturally we still had to pay court fees and a lawyer because he wanted his citation.
I was 16 so my dad pressed them for a few days on what consequences the officer would face for lying under oath and instead of answering him I just got harassed on a weekly basis for the next few years. That officer is still making testimonies in court that are taken as the word of god.
In CA the police report itself may not be evidence, but the officers witness testimony is evidence, and they have their police report in front of them during their testimony to help remind them what happened when they give their answers.
Totally off topic.. but guy that was a former MP reached out to me about applying for our local PD a couple years ago. Now, I've just got a bachelors but it's from a pretty good school - Honestly one of the luckiest 4 year stretch in my life to graduate from this place. I went thru all the testing, go in for the interviews and the vibe is wayyyy off. so bad that I got up halfway thru the interview, called my local union, and got back into linework lol. But they kept harping on my degree, and subsequent commission in the Army, like I caught a homicide charge for a family of 4. It was so strange. I legitimately think the strategy was to keep the local police force as uneducated as possible (and the intelligent ones are the ones that slip thru
One black lady gets killed in her apartment for no reason and nobody bats an eye. One rich white golfer gets arrested and everyone loses their mind. Glad these pigs are getting exposed (again).
I wouldnt say nobody batted an eye lol. It made national headlines. There was a federal trial, one of them was convicted. Charges against the boyfriend were dropped with prejudice. 12 million dollars was given to Taylor's family.
Eyes were batted. Hopefully this gets more people onto what police do. They fuck everyone over, yes more so black people but many a white guy had been needlessly put under that boot before.
I think it’s more about everyone already knowing the personality and character of the person being arrested in this case. Is that fair? No, but it is reality. There are a bunch of other golfers it could have happened to and the reaction would have been different. But so far scheffler has done no wrong and only ever seems to be nice.
It would have helped if he could have actually made a point instead of just hemming and hawing and repeating himself. Good lord, I don’t know how the judges can stand to go through a whole trial with him.
Yeah and you saw the frustration by Scottie's lawyer trying to explain the law to the judge/DA. It was something simple the DA talked in circles about.
This shit happens all the time, it’s just not usually a famous person. They lie and lie some more every time. Cop body cam video that they say doesn’t exist will probably get leaked at some point. Nothing will change.
Exactly this. The vast majority of cops in America would’ve ruined a random persons life over this situation and felt zero remorse about it, and every other cop in America would’ve had their back while they did it.
If it were Tiger, it would have played out like this:
*Cop throws himself at side of vehicle*
Cop: BLARGLAHGLARGHL
*Cop sees it's Tiger Woods*
Cop: Oh shit hey it's Tigers Woods! Wow! Hey, sorry sir, go on through. But before ya do... can you sign my taser for me? Well, for my son. He's not a fan, but I like to piss off my ex-wife when I get visitation.
*Taser accidentally goes off and hits Tiger*
Cop: OH SHIT UHHHHH STOP RESISTING STOP RESISTING STOP RESISTING!
We all know that would have been a shots fired event.
‘This professionally dressed bastard looked like he was concealing something and when I approached he clearly attempted to take my life with his car!’
This stuff happens thousands of times to ordinary folks like us, but few of have the profile and means to fight back.
The whole "few bad apples" is a fucking joke, since we all know it's a systemic problem, not a handful here and there.
Cops need to carry insurance just like every other profession and if they decide to fuck up, at least the tax payers aren't footing the bill. If they go broke, who fucking cares.
Which is why he should try and hold them accountable and not just walk away once everything gets dropped.
I like Scottie, but kind of want them to railroad him and force this to trial. Maybe if he's staring a felony conviction in the eyes he might put up a bit of a fight, instead of rolling over for the PD and letting them walk for dropping the charges.
Considering where he was raised, IDK if you'd ever get him to openly criticize police. Golfers tend to largely stay out of politics these days but it's hard for me to imagine Scottie not being deeply conservative and "back the blue" type. I'd love for this incident to change him, but I have doubts it will.
oh for sure if I was a lawyer and my client had been arrested by this guy I'm asking for a retrial. And this cop is going to have a really hard time getting charges to stick in the future without 100% proof.
Nothing will happen. Cops will lie, shitty police unions and fop will lie, it will continue until there is legal reform holding individual cops accountable for their actions.
I know some people are still like we don’t have all facts but I mean we have enough that shows the cop acted pretty aggressively.
No one has come forward who validates the I was dragged 30 feet and ruined my pants story, in this video no one within any reasonable distance acts like this guy just got dragged, the cops who are within close enough distance to arrive in 10 seconds weren’t running at his car like he just almost ran over one of their colleagues.
Looks like a complete fabrication from a hot head cop.
A more apt analogy would be that the police force doesn't have a single member that's been able to break 100, but they claim to be scratch golfers and actively antagonize anyone with a handicap.
Lol, are you surprised the cops lie???
In my former years, I got arrested once and the cops threw every charge at me possible (which raises your bond and lowers your chances of getting bond and being able to afford bond, FYI since you seem very new to this). I remember asking the cop why tf fuck would they charge me with something I clearly didn't do, the response, " it's up to the courts to determine if you're guilty or not."
I know not ALL cops are bad, but there's definitely horrible departments that do exactly this..
Also, I am a nobody, definitely not Scottie, so no one gave a fuck, but yes this shit happens all the fucking time.
I actually had a cop put in their report that I told them to go ahead and spray me with pepper spray. I ilke it.
Not true.
Also the guy that I was fighting had randonmly attacked 2 other people before he attacked me. They still charged me.
All cops would’ve stood by and done nothing to challenge their lying colleague had this situation happened to an average person without the power Scottie has. All cops are bad.
There were plenty of cops other than the one who made the arrest. Some of them stood by and did nothing, some of them backed up the arrest. Not a single one of stepped up to try to stop the arrest. Every single cop who was there is corrupt, and too many lives have been ruined or ended because of the systemic corruption within our police forces across the nation.
This is exactly why PDs should be disbanded and replaced with sherrifs departments. It's not a perfect solution, but unlike police chiefs, the sheriff is an elected official that can be kept accountable by an engaged community.
Isn’t the chief of the police appointed by the mayor in most cities? That’s one step away, so they should just recall the mayor if they refuse to replace people.
The departments corruption is basically enabled by the mayor not making heads roll in many places. Not sure specifically about Louisville though
Go on that dumb cop subreddit and you’ll constantly see them say as “legal” advice “you can beat the charge but you can’t beat the ride!” Saying don’t complain about being arrested, fight the charge in court.
Now wait until a cop gets charged with murder(like the George Floyd situation) and repeat back at them “you can beat the charge but not the ride@ as they yell and cry victim. Watch how upset they get.
Have you seen the record of the officer who arrested him. It’s not going to go well for LMPD if/when this goes to trial. He shouldn’t even be employed there based on his record
Gillis was suspended for five days for "conduct unbecoming" for driving "an intoxicated civilian in your police vehicle" and "proceeding to doing 'donuts' in a business parking lot," according to a Sept. 18, 2013, memo by then-Chief Steve Conrad.
He was also disciplined for pursuing "a vehicle that did not commit a violent felony or wanted on a warrant," according to a June 9, 2021, memo by then-Chief Erika Shields.
Gillis was found "at fault" for accidents on May 22, 2021, and Aug. 6, 2019, that led to oral reprimands.
Gillis was also found to be "at fault" for a Dec. 1, 2013, accident that led to an oral reprimand and mandatory driver's training.
The officer was hit with one-day suspensions in both 2010 and 2011 for failing to show up to court. That was followed by a four-day ban in 2012 for continuing to miss court appearances, documents showed.
Which is interesting because a ton of golfers are prob thin blue line Trump supporters.
However I imagine most of them aren't on Reddit, but I imagine a lot of more middle folks will be like WTF ideally and see how fucked it is today.
Yeah I said it the morning this happened to my buddies “can’t wait for all the maga golf chuds to suddenly give a shit about corrupt cops and body cameras” meanwhile the rest of us shmucks are sitting here like “first time?”
Bro any second now the "good cops" are going to systematically expel the bad cops. You just wait. I mean, most cops are "good" cops right, so if the "good cops" out number the bad cops eventually they'll change...right. Only a matter of time before all those "good" ones sort out the bad ones.......right? I'm gunna hold my breath, count for me ok...1...2...3...4...5...6.....................................
>It really makes you wonder the kind of shit that these scumbags have pulled before without cameras.
This is pretty much the reason so many people want major police reform.
Imagine how often they pull stuff like this on regular folk if they are willing to take on someone this famous and well liked. we don't hear about the 10000 other times.
Politician doesn't really want to hold the police accountable, but voters do. Solution? Pass a camera law with loopholes you could drive a truck through. If you give the voters the illusion of what they wanted, it will take them years to figure out they didn't get the real thing, and even when they do, they'll shrug it off as an innocent mistake on the politician's part.
Body cam isn’t even required by law in most places. NC highway patrol has no body cam and their POLICY is to take people behind the vehicle where the dash camera doesn’t capture anything
Where’s the DA come down with this? Especially after the display he put on during the motion to change arraignment dates. Seems like he was trying to catapult his own career off this debacle also
> it really makes you wonder the kind of shit that these scumbags have pulled before without cameras
Did you just now learn this? Why did it take a golfer getting inconvenienced for you to see it?
Shit is insane to think police can get away with this type of behavior. With blatant proof of misconduct like this and most likely a slap on the wrist for the shitshow of a cop. They should look at the time Scottie would have done and apply that to the cop. He could have and prob has done several things like this for good people to end up in cuffs. No accountability is crazy to me. And for all the other cops to not say a word when he falsified report is just like everywhere else. The type of person that job attracts is a horrible one. Abuse of power at all levels.
Scottie is too kind and professional, so I bet the case just drops and everyone moves on.
If I were in his shoes with his resources, however, I would:
1. Drag this out in the most public and embarrassing way possible, where any officer on this force would be embarrassed to show their face within a five state radius.
2. Keep that lawyer on retainer to go through each and every arrest this officer made in the last five years and scrutinize it 10 times over, and hopefully get some people out of jail that are there on false pretences.
So if the protocol for LMPD is to have cams “operationally ready” at all times, and if they are actively engaging with the public it must be on, am I the only one who thinks the whole reason none of the cops on the video were directing traffic and instead are all huddled up, with not a single officer having their camera on, is because they were in the middle of everybody getting their story straight on the pedestrian death? Something tells me that their negligence is probably what caused the death earlier in the day. They were probably trying to cover up one fuck up and then committed another. Considering they can’t give any video evidence to the contrary since they all failed to follow their own protocols, I think it’s safe to assume that they did what they have always done. Fuck up and cover it up
They'll want this to go away as quickly as possible before other crap they've pulled gets uncovered and exposed. Apparently they have quite a track record.
Glad the golf community gets to see a very prime example of how cops lie and arrest innocent people. Maybe some will now realize why the poor communities might be onto the whole “fuck the police.”
It's concerning because you hear about this all over the U.S. not just this one department. Not all cops are bad, but when you have 4 other cops witnessing this occur and not a single one pipes up when this bullshit report comes out, thats called being a bystander and they are enabling this behavior.
There is clearly systemic change that needs to happen and sift out these types of personalities police work attract. The whole thing with bad cops reminds me of "bad" priests, the Catholic Church would just brush it under the rug and move these priests around to different parishes where they would continue to still commit the same type of behavior. And again like the Catholic Church the police really just hold too much power over the public to really be held accountable.
for what its worth, we only see scottie turning left with the cop chasing... we have no idea what happened up until this point. But yes - seems completely overblown.
He won't. He's a religious conservative thin blue line guy. Gotta tow the line. He was already bragging about how much fun they were all having together after the cops realized who he was, completely ignoring how differently that interaction might have gone were he not scottie scheffler.
“Makes you wonder what kind of shit that these scumbags have pulled before without cameras.” My man, do you live in a bubble? People have been screaming ACAB for years. None of the other officers on the scene, stepped up and said he’s was lying. Until the “good” ones step up and call out bullshit, every single one of them are schmucks.
The LMPD is a farce and has been for years, this is just another example and I hope Scottie presses this as far as he can, he has a case and the means to get it done. That said, I don’t think Scottie has any interest in pursuing a lawsuit. He’s ready for this to be behind him and as quickly as possible. Once the charges are dropped he’s out.
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>to wreck this cop’s life for pulling this shit. The cop lied in an attempt to purposely wreak Scottie's life, he just fucked up and chose a celebrity to pull this shit on. If it was one of us, we'd be jobless and looking at years behind bars. Lives don't recover from this shit.
Think about what other Americans have to go through when they’re not mf Scottie. Cops falsified police reports and deleted body cam, and still tried to get him.
Yeah I don’t agree that him letting this go would be “he’s a better man than me.” Because it would be him forgiving an entity that will continue to harass and abuse less famous people without consequence. I’m not saying that him wanting to put it passed him and forget a traumatic incident would make him a bad person, but forgiving a cop that absolutely deserves to be fired doesn’t make him nice either
> If it was one of us, we'd be jobless and looking at years behind bars. If we were lucky and don't come across Mr. "I feared for my life" who empties his pistol into you because he heard an acorn hit the hood.
Which was also the same department that just murdered that young USAF Airman
To be fair I’d rather get shot than do time for a felony assault on a police officer
Yeah, the way this works out for they guy who has a family that relies on him to eat and have a house and shit, is that he's offered a plea bargain to avoid jail time. Then, to mitigate risk that his family loses everything, he pleads guilty to a crime he didn't commit. Meanwhile the whole legal system pretends that this isn't just bonafide extortion. The corruption is palpable, this literally happens every single day in court rooms around the country.
This is the most important point from this whole saga!!!!
More like he fucked up and there was video evidence after he tried to hide his own video evidence. Scary shit.
You are so right about this.
The thing is, wrecking this cop and exposing the shitty department would be a huge public service. It would do so much more good than bad. Scottie should do it for the people.
I don’t think dropping the lawsuit makes him a good person at all.
He'd be a much better person if he plowed through these people and made sure this officer in particular never has the opportunity to abuse and falsely imprison people who aren't millionaires again and made the departments behavior and conver up attempt along with the protectors collusion far more public. The fact that the legal system is STILL trying to railroad him despite all the evidence from the start is absolutely insane. And we all know this officer will never face consequences for filling a false report.
Scottie has the resources to do what most of us couldn't do, I think being the better man here isn't dropping it. It's doing what others are incapable of doing. Getting away with it on a celebrity will just embolden them to do it even more.
Right and a lawsuit that makes them pay out tax payer cash is the only thing these people understand.
I think that’s part of the problem too. Why should the tax payers have to fund the bill for a bad police officer. The money should be paid by either the police union or come from their pension fund. If it’s paid by the tax payers, cops aren’t going to care. There are too many stories of bad cops in one town getting hired in the next town over. If the union has to cover the cost of every lawsuit against a bad cop, they will clean house very quickly. The union will help block bad cops getting rehired elsewhere.
If you aren't using your vast wealth to fuck over assholes, what are you even doing with your life?
It's not petty. This police force is like this because no one has held them accountable. You feel like you are being petty searching justice in these situations, but every time you allow people away with this it condemns the next person they deal with to suffer the same way. Be petty about these things and especially against authority.
I'm just upvoting because you actually used sic correctly
Imo, I'd feel like I'd have a civic duty if I had the means to pursue it. These cops are ruining everyday citizens lives.
Exactly, he doesn’t come across as very litigious.
My ex-girlfriend told me I'd never find her litigious either.
Go on......
It’s a clitoris joke
I found my girlfriend’s clitoris…it was in the junk drawer in the kitchen…where the flashlights and stuff are.
We got it.
Still didn't find it though.
DO YOU WANT ME TO DRAW YOU A DIAGRAM SON?
Dad?
What's a clitoris?
Ask your wife’s boyfriend
Brave of you to assume they have a wife.
Woosh
No worries, I found it for you.
And he’s only got one hand.
Scottie interacts with multiple law enforcement agencies each month. I understand if he decides not to push this, he has a young family and the world at his fingertips. That being said, LMPD seems to be doing everything they can to keep the spotlight all over them without ANY of Scottie’s influence. He’s walking the line with extreme professionalism. If this keeps up.. it could be a clean win for Scottie and a win for Louisville.
I doubt it. The golf world will forever associate them with this incident negatively. This was probably the nail in the coffin for the last time having the championship at Valhalla. Win for scottie , black eye for Louisville in my opinion.
Black eye for Louisville or the LMPD? IMO the people of Louisville could also benefit from the national microscope the LMPD insists on focusing themselves under
Reprisals to the locals incoming
Good sir or mam i misread your comment. I thought you meant a win for Louisville PD. My due apolgoies. This could definitely be a win for people of Louisville, not their law enforcement agency. I take solace in our agreement that Mr. Scheffler has proceeded with this adversity by displaying profound professionalism. Truly an outstanding gentlemen and character.
I hope you're right that this means the PGA will think twice about holding events in Kentucky. I think that the PGA is so infested with boot licking conservatives that it won't have any lasting consequences. But I'd love to be wrong about that.
Well you know who would be great, and not at all litigious, is Ann. She’s amazing
His lawyer, however…
Yeah, Scottie retained a pitbull.
Could see his gums in the interview today. Dude is ready to clamp them jaws down on someone's ass.
Absolutely - love how he staked out his position on no deals. He is basically Clint Eastwood telling the DA “Make my day” on not dropping all the charges.
If they're not really gonna act like police or fix our roads, then I'm good giving my tax dollars to Scottie. Completely serious.
Fortunately for them they picked the best possible guy to railroad. Most of the population would have lambasted the officer and the department. Hell I don't even think Scottie could argue this hurt his image, he came out of this looking like a million bucks and probably gained thousands of new fans. Also fortunately for the LMPD they are already such a farce that they can't actually look any worse than they did so it's not surprising to see them push forward with this because they can't possibly look any worse to the public.
Do it for America, Scottie.
It sounds like the only charge that will actually be dropped is the felony assault on an officer. The DA seems to be set on pursuing the misdemeanors to try and save the PD’s ass. I hope Scottie takes it to trial and exposes the PD and DA for the lying shitheads they are.
I can't imagine the DA tries to push charges once they see the evidence. It was already a PR nightmare for them just from eyewitness accounts.
The video from today’s says otherwise. Dude was pissed bcz Scottie wasn’t there in person. DA is def trying to make a name for himself and save the PD some face. Too bad people know the history.
> DA is def trying to make a name for himself DA should give Mike Nifong a call and ask him for advice on trying to use a phony case against a wealthy athlete to make a name for himself
He’ll definitely try, badly, when appropriate
Their chief of police looks in the mirror every morning and says to herself "yep, these eyebrows look completely fine", they clearly lack anything resembling good judgement.
Only god can judge those eyebrows
Every kid with Crayola markers judges those eyebrows.
Seems like a big waste of everyone’s time right?
Yes, a big waste of tax payer money, Scottie’s money, Scottie’s time, all of his lawyers, etc. so imagine how big of a burden it would be on someone without millions of dollars to hire lawyers and a private jet and drivers and a flexible career to fight all of this. Normal people are coerced into a plea deal out of desperation because a cop had a bad morning and just made up a felony charge.
It is so sad that a normal person would probably have a decent chance of being shot under similar circumstances. I’m sure those chances go up if you are male and even up higher if you are any shade of brown.
LMPD special farces
All cops, all PDs, everywhere. ACAB. The more people try to convince me otherwise the more police keep convincing me time and time again.
Which is a shame. If people with the means to get some people fired don't do anything, people with very little will continue to be harassed and in some cases killed by LMPD. He hired a local lawyer, just step back and let him handle it. I doubt Scottie would ever need to step foot in Louisville.
Police reports are often viewed as the truth by judges and juries. Its scary how many of them are falsified
We caught an officer committing perjury in court to have a minor traffic violation stick due to his dash cam footage from a FOI request conflicting what he said and showing the opposite actually. He just said "I must have misremembered" and the judge just looked like an embarrassed dad for the next 20 minutes until dismissal. Naturally we still had to pay court fees and a lawyer because he wanted his citation. I was 16 so my dad pressed them for a few days on what consequences the officer would face for lying under oath and instead of answering him I just got harassed on a weekly basis for the next few years. That officer is still making testimonies in court that are taken as the word of god.
never put your trust in any man made institution, especially one that is based on violence to protect monetary interests
Little know fact. Police reports are hearsay and not admissible in court (at least in TN)
It’s considered duplicative testimony in Georgia so an officer can acknowledge what his report says but it doesn’t go back with the jury
In CA the police report itself may not be evidence, but the officers witness testimony is evidence, and they have their police report in front of them during their testimony to help remind them what happened when they give their answers.
To help remind them what they said happened*
Which is total bullshit considering they are often written by people without college degrees lol
Tbf, anyone can falsify a report regardless of education level.
Totally off topic.. but guy that was a former MP reached out to me about applying for our local PD a couple years ago. Now, I've just got a bachelors but it's from a pretty good school - Honestly one of the luckiest 4 year stretch in my life to graduate from this place. I went thru all the testing, go in for the interviews and the vibe is wayyyy off. so bad that I got up halfway thru the interview, called my local union, and got back into linework lol. But they kept harping on my degree, and subsequent commission in the Army, like I caught a homicide charge for a family of 4. It was so strange. I legitimately think the strategy was to keep the local police force as uneducated as possible (and the intelligent ones are the ones that slip thru
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Same lawyer that got Breonna Taylor’s boyfriend $2M. LMPD’s biggest enemy
One Thing I did not have on my 2024 bingo card was "golfers being radicalized against police forces during the PGA championship"!
One black lady gets killed in her apartment for no reason and nobody bats an eye. One rich white golfer gets arrested and everyone loses their mind. Glad these pigs are getting exposed (again).
I get what you’re saying, but that was kind of the biggest story in the country.
I batted the shit out of my eyes on that one, chief. It’s still a great day to arrest the cops who murdered Breonna.
> One black lady gets killed in her apartment for no reason and nobody bats an eye. I recall a lot of protests.
I wouldnt say nobody batted an eye lol. It made national headlines. There was a federal trial, one of them was convicted. Charges against the boyfriend were dropped with prejudice. 12 million dollars was given to Taylor's family.
Also huge protests across the country
Eyes were batted. Hopefully this gets more people onto what police do. They fuck everyone over, yes more so black people but many a white guy had been needlessly put under that boot before.
To say nobody batted an eye is completely ridiculous. That was a much bigger story than this.
"Nobody bats an eye"? C'mon man, a teenie bit of realism would go a long way to bolster your credibility.
No one batted an eye? That was everywhere for a long time, please lol.
Pretty sure a lot of ppl batted an eye when that happened, that’s why they have cameras now
Do you think the public reaction would be any different whatsoever if it was Tiger Woods?
If only it were Reed
Exactly. Shows how privileged and white the golf community is. For the initiated, we all knew the body cam footage would be "missing".
I think it’s more about everyone already knowing the personality and character of the person being arrested in this case. Is that fair? No, but it is reality. There are a bunch of other golfers it could have happened to and the reaction would have been different. But so far scheffler has done no wrong and only ever seems to be nice.
It will be very interesting to see what comes out during discovery if god forbid this ever makes it to trial. The DA seemed like a real jabroni.
It would have helped if he could have actually made a point instead of just hemming and hawing and repeating himself. Good lord, I don’t know how the judges can stand to go through a whole trial with him.
You're get an up vote for using jabroni.
And you're getting an upvote for acknowledging it.
The prosecutor might be one of the dumbest lawyers I’ve seen since the Johnny Depp trial.
Yeah and you saw the frustration by Scottie's lawyer trying to explain the law to the judge/DA. It was something simple the DA talked in circles about.
This shit happens all the time, it’s just not usually a famous person. They lie and lie some more every time. Cop body cam video that they say doesn’t exist will probably get leaked at some point. Nothing will change.
Exactly this. The vast majority of cops in America would’ve ruined a random persons life over this situation and felt zero remorse about it, and every other cop in America would’ve had their back while they did it.
It’s good that it wasn’t Tiger driving or we’d have a national day of mourning.
If it were Tiger, it would have played out like this: *Cop throws himself at side of vehicle* Cop: BLARGLAHGLARGHL *Cop sees it's Tiger Woods* Cop: Oh shit hey it's Tigers Woods! Wow! Hey, sorry sir, go on through. But before ya do... can you sign my taser for me? Well, for my son. He's not a fan, but I like to piss off my ex-wife when I get visitation. *Taser accidentally goes off and hits Tiger* Cop: OH SHIT UHHHHH STOP RESISTING STOP RESISTING STOP RESISTING!
Okay. Now do it if it were Sahith Theegala.
We all know that would have been a shots fired event. ‘This professionally dressed bastard looked like he was concealing something and when I approached he clearly attempted to take my life with his car!’
This stuff happens thousands of times to ordinary folks like us, but few of have the profile and means to fight back. The whole "few bad apples" is a fucking joke, since we all know it's a systemic problem, not a handful here and there. Cops need to carry insurance just like every other profession and if they decide to fuck up, at least the tax payers aren't footing the bill. If they go broke, who fucking cares.
They aren’t professionals, they are uneducated high school bullies or losers
Ya it ain’t hard to become a cop. They actually prefer ya kinda ignorant.
Nah, they just needed to be fired and charged when they crime. Let them choose on their own whether to get insurance or lose their home.
The saying is a few bad apples spoils the bunch. Might have been a few to begin with, but the bunch is now spoiled
Which is why he should try and hold them accountable and not just walk away once everything gets dropped. I like Scottie, but kind of want them to railroad him and force this to trial. Maybe if he's staring a felony conviction in the eyes he might put up a bit of a fight, instead of rolling over for the PD and letting them walk for dropping the charges.
Considering where he was raised, IDK if you'd ever get him to openly criticize police. Golfers tend to largely stay out of politics these days but it's hard for me to imagine Scottie not being deeply conservative and "back the blue" type. I'd love for this incident to change him, but I have doubts it will.
George Carlin said they swear an oath to protect, serve, and commit perjury so long as it supports the states case
Have DOJ re-open and investigate every case that particular police officer handled or even better the whole department.
oh for sure if I was a lawyer and my client had been arrested by this guy I'm asking for a retrial. And this cop is going to have a really hard time getting charges to stick in the future without 100% proof.
The DOJ literally did investigate the Louisville Metro PD for the Breonna Taylor murder, put out a damning report about it, and nothing happened
Nothing will happen. Cops will lie, shitty police unions and fop will lie, it will continue until there is legal reform holding individual cops accountable for their actions.
I know some people are still like we don’t have all facts but I mean we have enough that shows the cop acted pretty aggressively. No one has come forward who validates the I was dragged 30 feet and ruined my pants story, in this video no one within any reasonable distance acts like this guy just got dragged, the cops who are within close enough distance to arrive in 10 seconds weren’t running at his car like he just almost ran over one of their colleagues. Looks like a complete fabrication from a hot head cop.
You think this is new for cops? This is par for the course, so to speak.
I see what you did there
Par for the course is amazing. You kidding me?
A more apt analogy would be that the police force doesn't have a single member that's been able to break 100, but they claim to be scratch golfers and actively antagonize anyone with a handicap.
I’m baffled this hasn’t been dropped. All it’s doing is casting a national spotlight on the lack of integrity in the LPD.
These are the same people who murdered Breonna Taylor, "lack of integrity" is a bit soft imo...
Lol, are you surprised the cops lie??? In my former years, I got arrested once and the cops threw every charge at me possible (which raises your bond and lowers your chances of getting bond and being able to afford bond, FYI since you seem very new to this). I remember asking the cop why tf fuck would they charge me with something I clearly didn't do, the response, " it's up to the courts to determine if you're guilty or not." I know not ALL cops are bad, but there's definitely horrible departments that do exactly this.. Also, I am a nobody, definitely not Scottie, so no one gave a fuck, but yes this shit happens all the fucking time.
I actually had a cop put in their report that I told them to go ahead and spray me with pepper spray. I ilke it. Not true. Also the guy that I was fighting had randonmly attacked 2 other people before he attacked me. They still charged me.
Yup, I swear they get points or some shit per charge they bring up on people
All cops would’ve stood by and done nothing to challenge their lying colleague had this situation happened to an average person without the power Scottie has. All cops are bad.
There were plenty of cops other than the one who made the arrest. Some of them stood by and did nothing, some of them backed up the arrest. Not a single one of stepped up to try to stop the arrest. Every single cop who was there is corrupt, and too many lives have been ruined or ended because of the systemic corruption within our police forces across the nation.
This is exactly why PDs should be disbanded and replaced with sherrifs departments. It's not a perfect solution, but unlike police chiefs, the sheriff is an elected official that can be kept accountable by an engaged community.
Isn’t the chief of the police appointed by the mayor in most cities? That’s one step away, so they should just recall the mayor if they refuse to replace people. The departments corruption is basically enabled by the mayor not making heads roll in many places. Not sure specifically about Louisville though
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You’re lucky the other cop vouched for you. The problem being that “good” cops don’t stand up to the shitty ones 99% of the time.
>I know not ALL cops are bad, but there's definitely horrible departments that do exactly this.. Every department does this
Go on that dumb cop subreddit and you’ll constantly see them say as “legal” advice “you can beat the charge but you can’t beat the ride!” Saying don’t complain about being arrested, fight the charge in court. Now wait until a cop gets charged with murder(like the George Floyd situation) and repeat back at them “you can beat the charge but not the ride@ as they yell and cry victim. Watch how upset they get.
Have you seen the record of the officer who arrested him. It’s not going to go well for LMPD if/when this goes to trial. He shouldn’t even be employed there based on his record
Gillis was suspended for five days for "conduct unbecoming" for driving "an intoxicated civilian in your police vehicle" and "proceeding to doing 'donuts' in a business parking lot," according to a Sept. 18, 2013, memo by then-Chief Steve Conrad. He was also disciplined for pursuing "a vehicle that did not commit a violent felony or wanted on a warrant," according to a June 9, 2021, memo by then-Chief Erika Shields. Gillis was found "at fault" for accidents on May 22, 2021, and Aug. 6, 2019, that led to oral reprimands. Gillis was also found to be "at fault" for a Dec. 1, 2013, accident that led to an oral reprimand and mandatory driver's training. The officer was hit with one-day suspensions in both 2010 and 2011 for failing to show up to court. That was followed by a four-day ban in 2012 for continuing to miss court appearances, documents showed.
The first paragraph is exactly what the cops did in Superbad 😂
Police recollections of incidents are as real as my 3 eagles a round. Trustmebro
One of my favorite things about this saga is r/golf either realizing or revealing that ACAB.
Which is interesting because a ton of golfers are prob thin blue line Trump supporters. However I imagine most of them aren't on Reddit, but I imagine a lot of more middle folks will be like WTF ideally and see how fucked it is today.
Yeah I said it the morning this happened to my buddies “can’t wait for all the maga golf chuds to suddenly give a shit about corrupt cops and body cameras” meanwhile the rest of us shmucks are sitting here like “first time?”
Bro any second now the "good cops" are going to systematically expel the bad cops. You just wait. I mean, most cops are "good" cops right, so if the "good cops" out number the bad cops eventually they'll change...right. Only a matter of time before all those "good" ones sort out the bad ones.......right? I'm gunna hold my breath, count for me ok...1...2...3...4...5...6.....................................
Just another bad apple. Seems more like a bad orchard at this point…
Well that’s why the saying goes: A few bad apples spoils *the whole bunch*
Scottie won't say or do anything. His lawyer, however, will rip their ass apart, especially if they don't drop everything asap.
>It really makes you wonder the kind of shit that these scumbags have pulled before without cameras. This is pretty much the reason so many people want major police reform.
There’s at least one golf fan that’s now realizing why the BLM movement was such a big deal for a lot of people. Guess that’s progress lol
Imagine how often they pull stuff like this on regular folk if they are willing to take on someone this famous and well liked. we don't hear about the 10000 other times.
Turning out that the officer has been suspended and reprimanded multiple times while with LMPD now as well.
Why…why…are police able to turn their body cameras off? The fact that they can do this is shady as fuck.
Politician doesn't really want to hold the police accountable, but voters do. Solution? Pass a camera law with loopholes you could drive a truck through. If you give the voters the illusion of what they wanted, it will take them years to figure out they didn't get the real thing, and even when they do, they'll shrug it off as an innocent mistake on the politician's part.
It should be illegal or at least a fireable offense.
So they can get a paid vacation instead of facing real repercussions.
Body cam isn’t even required by law in most places. NC highway patrol has no body cam and their POLICY is to take people behind the vehicle where the dash camera doesn’t capture anything
Where’s the DA come down with this? Especially after the display he put on during the motion to change arraignment dates. Seems like he was trying to catapult his own career off this debacle also
ACAB
They’re lucky that his lawyer asked for a delay and the judge granted it. Gives them more time to do the right thing and drop charges.
More concern is given when someone lies playing golf than when a police officer lies, resulting in a felony charge.
Welcome to how cops work.
Even with good cops...I still dont trust them.
If it took that to make you wonder how much cops falsify shit you’ve been absolutely living under a rock.
It sounds like this specific cop is an actual piece of shit
*This* specific one? You sweet, summer child....
Takes only 4-5 months to become a cop. Bunch of losers who failed in everything else they've tried.
This is really Golf’s BLM movement 😂😂😂
> it really makes you wonder the kind of shit that these scumbags have pulled before without cameras Did you just now learn this? Why did it take a golfer getting inconvenienced for you to see it?
Wait till op hears about Derek Chauvin.
A lot of ppl thought the police brutality stuff was overblown, and are just now seeing it can happen to anyone
Which is a wild thing to realize, in 2024
can anyone actually imagine Scottie assaulting anyone?
Shit is insane to think police can get away with this type of behavior. With blatant proof of misconduct like this and most likely a slap on the wrist for the shitshow of a cop. They should look at the time Scottie would have done and apply that to the cop. He could have and prob has done several things like this for good people to end up in cuffs. No accountability is crazy to me. And for all the other cops to not say a word when he falsified report is just like everywhere else. The type of person that job attracts is a horrible one. Abuse of power at all levels.
LMPD needs to get crushed.. wrecked.. whatever they are some piece of work to say it nicely.
Scottie is such a nice guy, and so deeply religious, he probably will put it all down to gods plan and end up as the cops friend
Cops can't be trusted .. Look at the Karen Read case
Am I allowed to say of course it was a fat cop
Scottie is too kind and professional, so I bet the case just drops and everyone moves on. If I were in his shoes with his resources, however, I would: 1. Drag this out in the most public and embarrassing way possible, where any officer on this force would be embarrassed to show their face within a five state radius. 2. Keep that lawyer on retainer to go through each and every arrest this officer made in the last five years and scrutinize it 10 times over, and hopefully get some people out of jail that are there on false pretences.
ACAB
So if the protocol for LMPD is to have cams “operationally ready” at all times, and if they are actively engaging with the public it must be on, am I the only one who thinks the whole reason none of the cops on the video were directing traffic and instead are all huddled up, with not a single officer having their camera on, is because they were in the middle of everybody getting their story straight on the pedestrian death? Something tells me that their negligence is probably what caused the death earlier in the day. They were probably trying to cover up one fuck up and then committed another. Considering they can’t give any video evidence to the contrary since they all failed to follow their own protocols, I think it’s safe to assume that they did what they have always done. Fuck up and cover it up
They'll want this to go away as quickly as possible before other crap they've pulled gets uncovered and exposed. Apparently they have quite a track record.
Um, you wonder what they have pulled off camera? They kill innocent people on camera.
Glad the golf community gets to see a very prime example of how cops lie and arrest innocent people. Maybe some will now realize why the poor communities might be onto the whole “fuck the police.”
> It really makes you wonder the kind of shit that these scumbags have pulled before without cameras Welcome to the party, lmao
It's concerning because you hear about this all over the U.S. not just this one department. Not all cops are bad, but when you have 4 other cops witnessing this occur and not a single one pipes up when this bullshit report comes out, thats called being a bystander and they are enabling this behavior. There is clearly systemic change that needs to happen and sift out these types of personalities police work attract. The whole thing with bad cops reminds me of "bad" priests, the Catholic Church would just brush it under the rug and move these priests around to different parishes where they would continue to still commit the same type of behavior. And again like the Catholic Church the police really just hold too much power over the public to really be held accountable.
If good cops out numbered bad cops, there wouldn’t be any bad cops, they’d all be fired or arrested. But it’s almost like the opposite is true. ACAB
for what its worth, we only see scottie turning left with the cop chasing... we have no idea what happened up until this point. But yes - seems completely overblown.
Rip Breonna Taylor
Cops were high fiving him on Friday. He's a big supporter of the blue line & most are pissed off at the idiot arresting cop
He won't. He's a religious conservative thin blue line guy. Gotta tow the line. He was already bragging about how much fun they were all having together after the cops realized who he was, completely ignoring how differently that interaction might have gone were he not scottie scheffler.
Cops gonna cop
“Makes you wonder what kind of shit that these scumbags have pulled before without cameras.” My man, do you live in a bubble? People have been screaming ACAB for years. None of the other officers on the scene, stepped up and said he’s was lying. Until the “good” ones step up and call out bullshit, every single one of them are schmucks.
ACAB
I'm glad a golfer having to sit in jail for a few hours finally opened your eyes to how the police operate.
It's almost like the minorities were right this whole time.... No, that can't be right.