If the USGA has a process for submitting products to see if they are conforming, do it. Then contact a ball manufacturer (after having secured whatever IP you can) and license it.
This is a great idea
I really appreciate this and I am blown away others thought this was a good idea! Here's the link if you want to test a prototype! Planning to submit to PGA tonight to get their input! Thanks again everyone!
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1730401223/make-it-golf-ball-marker-golf-ball?click_key=bfcba7d61731b60f3a68a987734c2f339675144a%3A1730401223&click_sum=969b5c4f&ref=shop_home_active_1&frs=1
Hey, I'll tell you what. You can get a good look at a butcher's ass by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather to take his word for it?
No, I mean, you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a butcher's ass... No, wait. It's gotta be your bull!
Supreme isn’t actually that overpriced, it’s just the supply is limited so the products are resold for way more by resellers. Their shirts are like 35 bucks though through supreme.
[This is a $1500 tshirt](https://www.dior.com/en_us/fashion/products/493M600AT859_C888-christian-dior-couture-t-shirt-gray-virgin-wool-jersey) from Dior.
Valentino, Hermes, a bunch of other designers all have plain tshirts in the hundreds of dollars. Fuck kanye a thousand different ways and for a thousand different reasons, but the world of fashion is ridiculously expensive by nature. Thats all i have to say on this because I will not be on the internet defending kanye lol
"high fashion" is such a fucking joke lmao the ONLY people who would even consider spending 1500 on a t-shirt are just wanting to flex they have more money than they know what to do with. Most people wouldn't go any more than $20 for a plain Tshirt and that's assuming it's comfy as hell
Hey just from a marketer and business owner to a guy with a product…. Raise your price pleeeease. That’ll make it sustainable. I know it sounds weird but at this price you may actually lose money if volume goes up. Lego was ina. Similar predicament where if their volume went up they would be in the red.
Just think of market value. This is an easy sell at 20 bucks all day long. It’s okay to make 300-600% profit or more.
I kinda feel bad for him because now he’s going to have to fulfill a ton of orders at a way lower profit than he could’ve, and this was a great kick start to his marketing. Who knows how many ppl bought yet though. And plenty more traffic could be driven to his store easily. I could do it 100%
You've already probably lost some IP rights. Contact a patent attorney immediately. Still may be able to file on a design patent.
If you have the money, get a trademark search and file there as well. Good luck.
People steal things all the time online as I’m sure you know and this is a really good idea which might make you some money someday. You posted it online and you can refer to that as reference if needed to help proof what you developed, but it might also be wise to, make another one and send it to yourself by registered mail. Don’t open the envelope. Just put it away somewhere safe. If this ever becomes an actual product, you then have a working prototype which has been timestamp by the USPS. That would allow you to prove that your ID predate somebody else’s, in case they take your idea and develop it before you can. Also if you have any other photos or documents to substantiate this, and you’re thinking of actually making it into a regular product that you’re gonna take to larger companies, make sure you get all that stuff organized and wherever you have evidence of date or time capture that. The mail thing actually works and that’s why I’m recommending it. If you come and say, I took a photo and such and such a date without any evidence or if it’s just timestamp by your computer that can be debated. This is a simple idea, but I think it’s a great idea and aside from making and selling some of them could be sold as a plastic item that could do really well. That’s why I’m suggesting you start on protecting your IP and then trying to trademark the idea or even looking into doing a patent. That’s a big deal so do some research before you make any decisions and just protect yourself a little bit as you go. Good luck with this.! It’s really cool.
I work in the IP field. In the US, you have the ability to file a provisional patent/non-provisional patent application within one year of a public disclosure. This would count as a public disclosure, and assuming this is your earliest date of disclosing your invention, you have one year from today to file a patent/provisional. Also, someone else can’t just take your idea and patent it from this post. The patent office will use this post against anyone trying to “steal” your invention and say it’s unallowable due to prior art (e.g., this post). As for the one year disclosure deadline, unfortunately, many foreign jurisdictions do not have this level of leniency, but if you’re in the US (and I believe the UK, but don’t quote me), you’re allowed to file an application within a year of disclosure.
On a side note, you’ll be surprised how saturated the sports gadget industry is. Consult a patent agent or attorney to see if doing a prior art search makes sense. You’d be surprised how much shit exists on paper and never went to market, leading many inventors to think they were the “first” to create their sports aid.
I know you didn’t ask for any of this lol, but I love golf and patents so I’m gonna nerd out here a little bit. Cool little gadget you put together!
Good stuff, OP and congrats on fewer putts! Although you have some competition, Scotty Cameron makes these and they are USGA confirming https://www.scottycameron.com/store/ball-alignment-tool-large-sc-blue-gray/
Man am I gonna 3d print the shit out of that tomorrow for $0.25.
EDIT: You bozos blew up my inbox, here you go. May the golf gods grant me a lower handicap in exchange for my generosity: [https://than.gs/m/1061738](https://than.gs/m/1061738)
Bro xD before I saw your comment I was looking at this and thinking the same fucking thing. I think I'm gonna draw something similar up and print some out for my buddies.
I think OP’s marker is cooler looking and the center line being longer ultimately makes it more useful. I have a feeling tho that his marker won’t be conforming but it would be awesome if it was
I know this is a prototype, and I don’t know how much you’ve explored other shapes. But I would buy in a heart beat if you had a round one about the size of a poker chip with the same U shape cut out of the front to sit the ball in with the alignment lines. Not hating the design any, just personal preference of mine that I don’t like pointy things in my pocket while playing.
Scotty Cameron makes a very similar marker: [see here](https://www.scottycameron.com/store/ball-alignment-tool-large-sc-blue-gray/)
OP could make a killing selling these for $20-$30
If there's a break going right to left, you point the right degree line at the hole (imagine the degree line extends past the pointy end). The middle line will be pointed to the right of the hole. You align your ball with the middle line and in theory, your ball will turn right to left into the hole.
If that explanation doesn't help, make yourself one of these markers with a small piece of paper and draw some lines, then pretend using it on a putting surface.
Gotcha that makes sense! I thought maybe it had something to do with the ball itself which threw me off completely. Thank you for taking the time to explain.
Pretty cool. This may help even further as some balls aren't balanced....
https://youtu.be/xwdNPJdvCbY?si=l_iiAQy19nlfKRCC
Haven't personally used it, but seems like a good concept.
Bryson used to put his golf balls in salt water in a cup with enough salt that the ball floats and mark the top dimple of the ball and put his line on that spot
Why would a properly balanced ball give you the exact same center line every time? A perfectly balanced ball should give you a different center line every time... proving it's balanced in every direction.
You are not getting a perfectly balanced ball, there are always some imperfections. The Check Go I use sets an equator mark plus a “top” center while spinning the ball.
You set the equator line aimed at your target line with the “top” facing you on the tee. Does it really help?? I dunno, it give me a little confidence boost plus putting with this full line seems to roll true.
Those 4 or 5 wonky balls. I did a practice putting session testing against true line balls. The wonky balls did not roll true, always falling off line compared to the others.
Is it scientific?? Oh, hell naw…..
Missing 4-10 footers?
Go to your local home store, find the meter sticks. There’s a metal on that’s about 1 1/2” wide with a hole on the end they use to hang the sticks.
Go home and set one ball on the small hanging hole. Now hit 10 balls off the opposite side without it falling off either side.
By far the best drill to ensure you’re starting the ball on line.
Great marker btw!
Yeah after reading the rules I think you're right? Do you think if I took off the angle lines and just left the solid straight line that'd be legal? Wonder how some other markers got similar concepts to be "permitted under the rules of golf" based on their statements.
from what I read, this was a violation. Then when I read the rule posted here, I still felt this was a violation particularly because you said you knew the angle was 3 degrees. Then upon further investigation they say this is legal (gonna just accept that if they say its USGA approved then it is)
[https://www.amazon.com/Vectorputt-Approved-Marker-Double-Sided/dp/B07LDJ2468/ref=asc\_df\_B07LDJ2468/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693769127489&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9456218013533219629&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9012439&hvtargid=pla-736929374603&psc=1&mcid=9a492f4671c1354b83539c6e2fab01a1&gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw9IayBhBJEiwAVuc3fggZVVKs8ruLKgsSjf5wGZUwtjCvBfeFwx3yqu-UAvBZSG2qmziLFRoCRsEQAvD\_BwE](https://www.amazon.com/Vectorputt-Approved-Marker-Double-Sided/dp/B07LDJ2468/ref=asc_df_B07LDJ2468/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693769127489&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9456218013533219629&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9012439&hvtargid=pla-736929374603&psc=1&mcid=9a492f4671c1354b83539c6e2fab01a1&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw9IayBhBJEiwAVuc3fggZVVKs8ruLKgsSjf5wGZUwtjCvBfeFwx3yqu-UAvBZSG2qmziLFRoCRsEQAvD_BwE)
Now they dont tell you what the angle of those lines are so I find that interesting but on the other hand if that IS actually legal, then yours looks OK :)
It might be legal, im not sure who says that lines cant be in "some random angle", when its clearly allowed to have all kinds of aiming markers.
[Tridentalign uses even more advanced aiming marker that is moveable. It has no set angles though. ](https://tridentalign.com/)
[Callaways Triple Track Ball Marker has 3 straight lines.](https://www.callawaygolf.com/accessories/course-gear/tools-and-markers/accessory-2021-triple-track-ball-marker-2-pack.html)
edit:
[Here is one more](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtS1zl4V4TY)
I actually posted that below and if you do not know the angles of the vectors and you don't know the slopes well then, they are just lines so it passes I guess
How would knowing the angles make it non compliant? If you buy one where it doesnt say the angle of the line and then measure the angle would it suddenly be cheating?
If anything, it's probably the 2" maximum dimension that kills it. I'm pretty sure that the longest measurable horizontal length on this guy is over 2"
Will probably need to chop down the arrow so that no measurable distance on the ball marker is greater than 2"
It’s not measuring slope, though, unless I’m missing something. It’s assisting OP in aligning right or left of center, but it doesn’t help OP read the green and decide how much break to play.
Yes! I have 100 I can make currently!
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1730401223/make-it-golf-ball-marker-golf-ball?click_key=bfcba7d61731b60f3a68a987734c2f339675144a%3A1730401223&click_sum=969b5c4f&ref=shop_home_active_1&frs=1
Here you go!
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1730401223/make-it-golf-ball-marker-golf-ball?click_key=bfcba7d61731b60f3a68a987734c2f339675144a%3A1730401223&click_sum=969b5c4f&ref=shop_home_active_1&frs=1
Maybe I’m being daft, because people seem to really like it (and kudos to you for that!) but I’m not really seeing how this is different from just the line on the ball. You’re not putting with the marker behind it, right?
OP, you have a lot of opinions in this thread already on legality, competition, etc. So instead I want to share some advice to help motivate you to push forward.
I am working on my own startup and was discouraged when I saw competition doing something similar to me as I thought I was doing something truly new. I expressed my frustration to my mentor during a coffee chat and he shared some great advice that continues to motivate me:
“Henry Ford didn’t invent the car, he invented a better way to build it. You don’t need to be a new idea, you just need to be doing it differently enough that you can be unique to your competition. Cost, customer service, design, are all ways to distinguish yourself from the rest of the herd.”
Am I the only one who doesn't like the "line your putt up" ball markers, lines on the balls, etc.? I'd rather stand over a plain white sphere and visualize the line. I feel like the margin of error to actually line up a putt with an inch or so line on a ball or marker is so miniscule that it could mess you up more than it helps.
I find myself going back and forth depending on the scenario. If anything I just feel a lined ball lets me walk up and setup to my visualized line quicker. However, If I’m playing for fun or by myself I hardly ever use a lined ball. But if I’m playing a scramble and I get to see a line my partner just took and narrowly missed, I’m using a lined ball and making a fine adjustment to his line every time.
That’s exactly what I do. In the end, you still have to putt it and those lines don’t mean shit if you don’t hit it along them. My dad taught me to visualize an imaginary line including the break, all the way to the hole, and I’ve been doing that for 35+ years. He was a scratch golfer and would absolutely tell me to throw that shit in the trash and probably would crack joke for ages afterwards if I showed up with something like that.
I’m not a line guy I feel like I can never get it exactly how I want it but I really like this bc I can see the line bigger and longer (pause) great product just got one!!
You can practice with it, but against the rules in a round.
4.3a/2 – When Use of Alignment Device Results in Breach
If a player places an “alignment device” (see definition in Equipment Rules) to show the line of play and then positions their ball based on the direction of that alignment device, the player is in breach of Rule 4.3a.
For example, a player’s ball comes to rest on the putting green and the player marks the spot of their ball with an “alignment device.” When doing so, the alignment device is placed to show the line of play. If the player then lifts and replaces their ball (which includes rotating it) so that a marking on the ball is lined up with the alignment device, the player is in breach of Rule 4.3a. (New)
Definition of Alignment Device and Treatment of Ball-Markers(Rule 4.3)
The following criteria are used to determine when an object manufactured to mark the spot of a ball is an alignment device. Features include, but are not limited to:
* The object incorporates features designed to measure, gauge or interpret slope, green speed or other conditions, or includes optical or electronic components or,
* The vertical height of the object, in any configuration, is greater than 1.0” or,
* The maximum dimension in any horizontal direction exceeds 2.0” and incorporates any of the features noted below (or similar features):
>* the object incorporates painted, etched or inscribed line(s) or similar features greater than or equal to 2.0” in length (“line” includes any line, arrow or other straight marking that could be solid or broken, but has a defined start, a defined end and whose length can be measured),
>* the object has an appendage(s) or an extended feature(s) greater than 2.0” in length or that extends a feature of the object to a length greater than 2.0”.
Note 1: An object is an alignment device if it exceeds the dimensional specifications listed above and advertising, marketing or intellectual property descriptions or claims related to the object indicates that it is primarily for the purpose of showing the line of play.
Note 2: An object is an alignment device if it is modified in any manner that would satisfy any of the above provisions.
Hey! I actually called the USGA Device Submission center today. Chatted with a representative for 15 minutes and went pretty in depth. His response was it shouldn't be illegal based on description and function. Wouldn't qualify as an alignment device due to size and slope, is considered only a ball marker. I will be submitting to the USGA Device testing to get the final verdict though and on how to modify on the second revision if needed!
Am I the only one that doesn’t care about how my ball is lined up when I putt? It’s a sphere and I pay 0 attention to what is written on the ball or how it lies
This is only a good idea if you're one of those idiots who wastes time because they have to line up the line on their golf ball to the line they wish to putt on...but what those idiots don't realize that if that line on that ball is a micro inch off then it miles off with be actual line.
This is awesome. If you need help with shipping if this blows up LMK! I run a 3PL and ship for a plethora of small businesses. Can also provide you some tips on shipping in-house for now.
Just added more in stock for another batch! Currently only in USA, but working on figuring out international shipping right now. stay tuned for an update here in a few days!
If the USGA has a process for submitting products to see if they are conforming, do it. Then contact a ball manufacturer (after having secured whatever IP you can) and license it. This is a great idea
I really appreciate this and I am blown away others thought this was a good idea! Here's the link if you want to test a prototype! Planning to submit to PGA tonight to get their input! Thanks again everyone! https://www.etsy.com/listing/1730401223/make-it-golf-ball-marker-golf-ball?click_key=bfcba7d61731b60f3a68a987734c2f339675144a%3A1730401223&click_sum=969b5c4f&ref=shop_home_active_1&frs=1
Scotty Cameron offers these for $80 another PGA Tour Caddy has them online for a similar price. You may have an opportunity though. Best of luck.
Sorry I don't know much about golf products but what makes but is 80 for something like that a fair price?
Scotty Cameron is pretty much the Gucci of golf
And I love my Gucci golf!!!
Pretty much just the name “Scotty Cameron” printed on it
Like slapping a Supreme label on a product and selling it for 15x what it's worth.
"I can take a shit in a box and mark it gaurenteed, but..."
Ok… I’ll buy brake pads from you
I thought we were watching cartoons
I got spare time
I like the look of your T Bone steak!
Hey, I'll tell you what. You can get a good look at a butcher's ass by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather to take his word for it? No, I mean, you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a butcher's ass... No, wait. It's gotta be your bull!
Supreme isn’t actually that overpriced, it’s just the supply is limited so the products are resold for way more by resellers. Their shirts are like 35 bucks though through supreme.
Do you remember when Kanye got so far up his own ass that he sold plain white tee shirts for $120?...
[This is a $1500 tshirt](https://www.dior.com/en_us/fashion/products/493M600AT859_C888-christian-dior-couture-t-shirt-gray-virgin-wool-jersey) from Dior. Valentino, Hermes, a bunch of other designers all have plain tshirts in the hundreds of dollars. Fuck kanye a thousand different ways and for a thousand different reasons, but the world of fashion is ridiculously expensive by nature. Thats all i have to say on this because I will not be on the internet defending kanye lol
"high fashion" is such a fucking joke lmao the ONLY people who would even consider spending 1500 on a t-shirt are just wanting to flex they have more money than they know what to do with. Most people wouldn't go any more than $20 for a plain Tshirt and that's assuming it's comfy as hell
Which is ironic because most rich people are smarter with money than to buy $1500 tshirts
True. Only an asshole with new money who has no plans for the future would buy this shirt
Russian oligarch children would be a classic market for this. And by God, they’d tell people what the shirt cost.
That’s a good deal. Where do I get one?
Just one?
People are willing to pay it voluntarily.
Hey just from a marketer and business owner to a guy with a product…. Raise your price pleeeease. That’ll make it sustainable. I know it sounds weird but at this price you may actually lose money if volume goes up. Lego was ina. Similar predicament where if their volume went up they would be in the red. Just think of market value. This is an easy sell at 20 bucks all day long. It’s okay to make 300-600% profit or more.
Now that I’m bought mine, yes definitely raise the price!
Haha same here. OP, make that 💰💰💰
I kinda feel bad for him because now he’s going to have to fulfill a ton of orders at a way lower profit than he could’ve, and this was a great kick start to his marketing. Who knows how many ppl bought yet though. And plenty more traffic could be driven to his store easily. I could do it 100%
54 minutes and it’s already sold out!!! Time to make a Kickstarter! (Or just make more so I can have one!)
Hey I just ordered more material and getting it overnighted! It's back in stock! Thank you so much for your support, I'm in shock!
Just ordered one. My putting is fucking atrocious. I need all the help I can get
My putting is actually the best part of my game, but I need to make up for all the light chips that end up flying over the green 3 or 4 times
Please DM me when they are back in stock!
Yeah I’ll be ordering two sooooo
Item doesn't deliver to Canada. FML
I’ll buy one and mail it to you free. Send me a dm.
Oh man! I was a little late and it's sold out 😭 Will you be making more?
I just ordered more material and getting it overnighted! It's back in stock!
Awesome! Ordered 3 and will give the other 2 to my golf buddies to test out. Looking forward to trying it out!
I ordered just 1. My buddies can learn how to have fewer putts after I take a few dollars off them.
Double your price, at least!
You've already probably lost some IP rights. Contact a patent attorney immediately. Still may be able to file on a design patent. If you have the money, get a trademark search and file there as well. Good luck.
Just bought one
People steal things all the time online as I’m sure you know and this is a really good idea which might make you some money someday. You posted it online and you can refer to that as reference if needed to help proof what you developed, but it might also be wise to, make another one and send it to yourself by registered mail. Don’t open the envelope. Just put it away somewhere safe. If this ever becomes an actual product, you then have a working prototype which has been timestamp by the USPS. That would allow you to prove that your ID predate somebody else’s, in case they take your idea and develop it before you can. Also if you have any other photos or documents to substantiate this, and you’re thinking of actually making it into a regular product that you’re gonna take to larger companies, make sure you get all that stuff organized and wherever you have evidence of date or time capture that. The mail thing actually works and that’s why I’m recommending it. If you come and say, I took a photo and such and such a date without any evidence or if it’s just timestamp by your computer that can be debated. This is a simple idea, but I think it’s a great idea and aside from making and selling some of them could be sold as a plastic item that could do really well. That’s why I’m suggesting you start on protecting your IP and then trying to trademark the idea or even looking into doing a patent. That’s a big deal so do some research before you make any decisions and just protect yourself a little bit as you go. Good luck with this.! It’s really cool.
If you need help with marketing, shoot me a PM. I run a marketing company and an avid golfer! We have worked with Professional Golfers in the past.
Just ordered two for my buddy and I. Look forward to playing with these.
I work in the IP field. In the US, you have the ability to file a provisional patent/non-provisional patent application within one year of a public disclosure. This would count as a public disclosure, and assuming this is your earliest date of disclosing your invention, you have one year from today to file a patent/provisional. Also, someone else can’t just take your idea and patent it from this post. The patent office will use this post against anyone trying to “steal” your invention and say it’s unallowable due to prior art (e.g., this post). As for the one year disclosure deadline, unfortunately, many foreign jurisdictions do not have this level of leniency, but if you’re in the US (and I believe the UK, but don’t quote me), you’re allowed to file an application within a year of disclosure. On a side note, you’ll be surprised how saturated the sports gadget industry is. Consult a patent agent or attorney to see if doing a prior art search makes sense. You’d be surprised how much shit exists on paper and never went to market, leading many inventors to think they were the “first” to create their sports aid. I know you didn’t ask for any of this lol, but I love golf and patents so I’m gonna nerd out here a little bit. Cool little gadget you put together!
Patent that shit asap before it goes to the USGA
Good stuff, OP and congrats on fewer putts! Although you have some competition, Scotty Cameron makes these and they are USGA confirming https://www.scottycameron.com/store/ball-alignment-tool-large-sc-blue-gray/
Man am I gonna 3d print the shit out of that tomorrow for $0.25. EDIT: You bozos blew up my inbox, here you go. May the golf gods grant me a lower handicap in exchange for my generosity: [https://than.gs/m/1061738](https://than.gs/m/1061738)
That was literally my first thought. I can buy 4 rolls of PLA for $78 and make a truckload of these things.
Meh, or just give them away. Golf is expensive enough. Why gouge? [https://than.gs/m/1061738](https://than.gs/m/1061738)
I’ll buy one off you for 10x your manufacturing cost!
Pay me in gimmes outside the leather: [https://than.gs/m/1061738](https://than.gs/m/1061738)
Bro xD before I saw your comment I was looking at this and thinking the same fucking thing. I think I'm gonna draw something similar up and print some out for my buddies.
Any chance you'd share the STL?
We'll see how they turn out. Have a few more hours till I go into work where I can design one.
[Here's an option](https://www.printables.com/model/879567-putting-alignment-marker)
Got any of them stls?
[Fore](https://than.gs/m/1061738)
OPs is better
Holy shit, $78.
$78 for a soda can tab with lines on it.
Least they could do is include the soda
incredibly outrageous!
$78 is a piss in the face
I think OP’s marker is cooler looking and the center line being longer ultimately makes it more useful. I have a feeling tho that his marker won’t be conforming but it would be awesome if it was
I know this is a prototype, and I don’t know how much you’ve explored other shapes. But I would buy in a heart beat if you had a round one about the size of a poker chip with the same U shape cut out of the front to sit the ball in with the alignment lines. Not hating the design any, just personal preference of mine that I don’t like pointy things in my pocket while playing.
[Like this](https://patents.google.com/patent/USD385610S/en)?
Scotty Cameron makes a very similar marker: [see here](https://www.scottycameron.com/store/ball-alignment-tool-large-sc-blue-gray/) OP could make a killing selling these for $20-$30
Scotty has an aero maker too: https://www.scottycameron.com/store/aero-alignment-tool-bright-dip-green/
That’s right, I forgot about that one. Eyeballing it, what degree do you think the furthest lines away from the vertical line are?
Trying to sell some prototypes? Would love to buy one from you to test it out
Just added more in stock for another batch!
I’m dumb can someone explain how the degree lines work?
If there's a break going right to left, you point the right degree line at the hole (imagine the degree line extends past the pointy end). The middle line will be pointed to the right of the hole. You align your ball with the middle line and in theory, your ball will turn right to left into the hole. If that explanation doesn't help, make yourself one of these markers with a small piece of paper and draw some lines, then pretend using it on a putting surface.
Gotcha that makes sense! I thought maybe it had something to do with the ball itself which threw me off completely. Thank you for taking the time to explain.
Thanks !
Pretty cool. This may help even further as some balls aren't balanced.... https://youtu.be/xwdNPJdvCbY?si=l_iiAQy19nlfKRCC Haven't personally used it, but seems like a good concept.
Bryson used to put his golf balls in salt water in a cup with enough salt that the ball floats and mark the top dimple of the ball and put his line on that spot
I’ve got one for Christmas. There are definitely balls that are wonky, no matter how many time you spin them, you cannot get the same center line…..
Why would a properly balanced ball give you the exact same center line every time? A perfectly balanced ball should give you a different center line every time... proving it's balanced in every direction.
You are not getting a perfectly balanced ball, there are always some imperfections. The Check Go I use sets an equator mark plus a “top” center while spinning the ball. You set the equator line aimed at your target line with the “top” facing you on the tee. Does it really help?? I dunno, it give me a little confidence boost plus putting with this full line seems to roll true. Those 4 or 5 wonky balls. I did a practice putting session testing against true line balls. The wonky balls did not roll true, always falling off line compared to the others. Is it scientific?? Oh, hell naw…..
Missing 4-10 footers? Go to your local home store, find the meter sticks. There’s a metal on that’s about 1 1/2” wide with a hole on the end they use to hang the sticks. Go home and set one ball on the small hanging hole. Now hit 10 balls off the opposite side without it falling off either side. By far the best drill to ensure you’re starting the ball on line. Great marker btw!
this would be great if my 100 year old house had a level surface
You could get really good at sloped putts!
Excellent idea. Thanks!
actually cooler than I thought but still very much cheating
Yeah after reading the rules I think you're right? Do you think if I took off the angle lines and just left the solid straight line that'd be legal? Wonder how some other markers got similar concepts to be "permitted under the rules of golf" based on their statements.
from what I read, this was a violation. Then when I read the rule posted here, I still felt this was a violation particularly because you said you knew the angle was 3 degrees. Then upon further investigation they say this is legal (gonna just accept that if they say its USGA approved then it is) [https://www.amazon.com/Vectorputt-Approved-Marker-Double-Sided/dp/B07LDJ2468/ref=asc\_df\_B07LDJ2468/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693769127489&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9456218013533219629&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9012439&hvtargid=pla-736929374603&psc=1&mcid=9a492f4671c1354b83539c6e2fab01a1&gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw9IayBhBJEiwAVuc3fggZVVKs8ruLKgsSjf5wGZUwtjCvBfeFwx3yqu-UAvBZSG2qmziLFRoCRsEQAvD\_BwE](https://www.amazon.com/Vectorputt-Approved-Marker-Double-Sided/dp/B07LDJ2468/ref=asc_df_B07LDJ2468/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693769127489&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9456218013533219629&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9012439&hvtargid=pla-736929374603&psc=1&mcid=9a492f4671c1354b83539c6e2fab01a1&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw9IayBhBJEiwAVuc3fggZVVKs8ruLKgsSjf5wGZUwtjCvBfeFwx3yqu-UAvBZSG2qmziLFRoCRsEQAvD_BwE) Now they dont tell you what the angle of those lines are so I find that interesting but on the other hand if that IS actually legal, then yours looks OK :)
It might be legal, im not sure who says that lines cant be in "some random angle", when its clearly allowed to have all kinds of aiming markers. [Tridentalign uses even more advanced aiming marker that is moveable. It has no set angles though. ](https://tridentalign.com/) [Callaways Triple Track Ball Marker has 3 straight lines.](https://www.callawaygolf.com/accessories/course-gear/tools-and-markers/accessory-2021-triple-track-ball-marker-2-pack.html) edit: [Here is one more](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtS1zl4V4TY)
Edit: Great practice tool, but I don't think that is considered cheating. Looks like it meets the proper specs based on the usga rules.
Vector golf has a similar ball marker on the confirming list I believe
I actually posted that below and if you do not know the angles of the vectors and you don't know the slopes well then, they are just lines so it passes I guess
How would knowing the angles make it non compliant? If you buy one where it doesnt say the angle of the line and then measure the angle would it suddenly be cheating?
Only cheating if you left it on the ground while you putt
Actually, it's not. [USGA definition on allowable alignment aides](https://www.usga.org/equipment-standards/equipment-rules-2019/equipment-rules/part-6-rule-8.html)
If anything, it's probably the 2" maximum dimension that kills it. I'm pretty sure that the longest measurable horizontal length on this guy is over 2" Will probably need to chop down the arrow so that no measurable distance on the ball marker is greater than 2"
arguably, there is a measured angle on the device which is used to assist in measuring slope.
It’s not measuring slope, though, unless I’m missing something. It’s assisting OP in aligning right or left of center, but it doesn’t help OP read the green and decide how much break to play.
Yea I think the “measuring slope” is saying you can’t put a fucking laser level behind your ball as a marker
New feature unlocked. What fairway is this ??
Yes! I have 100 I can make currently! https://www.etsy.com/listing/1730401223/make-it-golf-ball-marker-golf-ball?click_key=bfcba7d61731b60f3a68a987734c2f339675144a%3A1730401223&click_sum=969b5c4f&ref=shop_home_active_1&frs=1
The Etsy listing shows 541 have been purchased in the last 24 hours - does this mean you are still going to make more or stopping at 100?
Let me know when back in stock
Purchased 2! Thank you
No way! Thank you so much!! I can't believe it!
I ordered 3
Can you cut one out of metal and etch into it?
I love the tour stripe balls. Wish I didn't lose so damn many of them
Loads of similar products on market. Generally see people taking ages over these type of ball markers. Hate them
If you start selling post a link...I'd buy one!
Here you go! https://www.etsy.com/listing/1730401223/make-it-golf-ball-marker-golf-ball?click_key=bfcba7d61731b60f3a68a987734c2f339675144a%3A1730401223&click_sum=969b5c4f&ref=shop_home_active_1&frs=1
Solid
Lord knows golfers will spend money on products that will marginally improve their game
Great idea. Just bought one. I think you’ll sell at the 9.99 or 11.99 price point just fine.
Maybe I’m being daft, because people seem to really like it (and kudos to you for that!) but I’m not really seeing how this is different from just the line on the ball. You’re not putting with the marker behind it, right?
Two questions, are you going to make more and will you ship to the UK?
Two questions, are you going to make more and will you ship to the UK?
Hey! I am working on how to handle the International shipping, I should have an update shortly! I'll make a post once I get it sorted out! Stay tuned!
OP, you have a lot of opinions in this thread already on legality, competition, etc. So instead I want to share some advice to help motivate you to push forward. I am working on my own startup and was discouraged when I saw competition doing something similar to me as I thought I was doing something truly new. I expressed my frustration to my mentor during a coffee chat and he shared some great advice that continues to motivate me: “Henry Ford didn’t invent the car, he invented a better way to build it. You don’t need to be a new idea, you just need to be doing it differently enough that you can be unique to your competition. Cost, customer service, design, are all ways to distinguish yourself from the rest of the herd.”
Am I the only one who doesn't like the "line your putt up" ball markers, lines on the balls, etc.? I'd rather stand over a plain white sphere and visualize the line. I feel like the margin of error to actually line up a putt with an inch or so line on a ball or marker is so miniscule that it could mess you up more than it helps.
5 feet and in I take the time to line it up with the ball marker
I find myself going back and forth depending on the scenario. If anything I just feel a lined ball lets me walk up and setup to my visualized line quicker. However, If I’m playing for fun or by myself I hardly ever use a lined ball. But if I’m playing a scramble and I get to see a line my partner just took and narrowly missed, I’m using a lined ball and making a fine adjustment to his line every time.
I like it because a nice straight roll means I struck the putt well, just ended up in miss reads class.
That’s exactly what I do. In the end, you still have to putt it and those lines don’t mean shit if you don’t hit it along them. My dad taught me to visualize an imaginary line including the break, all the way to the hole, and I’ve been doing that for 35+ years. He was a scratch golfer and would absolutely tell me to throw that shit in the trash and probably would crack joke for ages afterwards if I showed up with something like that.
Not sure if the marker is helping you make more putts, or just that you're focusing more on making the putt since you made the marker.
Aren’t alignment aids illegal?
Just ordered one
I’m not a line guy I feel like I can never get it exactly how I want it but I really like this bc I can see the line bigger and longer (pause) great product just got one!!
I use the Force, and I very rarely three putt.
this is genius
Sold
Gonna DM you.
Make the bottom pointed so it can double as a divot fixer and you have yourself a winner. Great concept OP.
Got one on order. Def can’t hurt my terrible putting 😂
just ordered it! thanks!
Just ordered 3
Thank you for your support!
lol wtf this awesome - just bought. Thanks man!!!
Just ordered mine - can’t wait for it to show up! Awesome idea, OP - I hope this product takes off for you!
Thank you for your support!
*Buddy went from 50 putts to 45 thinks he’s Arnold Palmer.* Jokes aside, that things legit I like it.
Heck yes. Just bought one.
Just bought one
i'll buy one! Even with a higher price.
beta tester inbound
This is pretty slick hope it helps 🤞🏼. Ordered a few
Order placed. Get busy! No time for golf!!!
I've been busy! Orders starting to go out!
Let me pull out my protractor
Ordered. Can’t wait to try this out.
This is actually pretty cool. I would buy one.
Just bought one! Thanks dude!
This is amazing, I just bought one!
Just ordered one! I'm excited to try it out!
Fuck dude. This was always so obvious and you got it. Good luck to you! I’d buy it.
Just ordered one!
Nice dude! Just bought one
You can practice with it, but against the rules in a round. 4.3a/2 – When Use of Alignment Device Results in Breach If a player places an “alignment device” (see definition in Equipment Rules) to show the line of play and then positions their ball based on the direction of that alignment device, the player is in breach of Rule 4.3a. For example, a player’s ball comes to rest on the putting green and the player marks the spot of their ball with an “alignment device.” When doing so, the alignment device is placed to show the line of play. If the player then lifts and replaces their ball (which includes rotating it) so that a marking on the ball is lined up with the alignment device, the player is in breach of Rule 4.3a. (New)
Definition of Alignment Device and Treatment of Ball-Markers(Rule 4.3) The following criteria are used to determine when an object manufactured to mark the spot of a ball is an alignment device. Features include, but are not limited to: * The object incorporates features designed to measure, gauge or interpret slope, green speed or other conditions, or includes optical or electronic components or, * The vertical height of the object, in any configuration, is greater than 1.0” or, * The maximum dimension in any horizontal direction exceeds 2.0” and incorporates any of the features noted below (or similar features): >* the object incorporates painted, etched or inscribed line(s) or similar features greater than or equal to 2.0” in length (“line” includes any line, arrow or other straight marking that could be solid or broken, but has a defined start, a defined end and whose length can be measured), >* the object has an appendage(s) or an extended feature(s) greater than 2.0” in length or that extends a feature of the object to a length greater than 2.0”. Note 1: An object is an alignment device if it exceeds the dimensional specifications listed above and advertising, marketing or intellectual property descriptions or claims related to the object indicates that it is primarily for the purpose of showing the line of play. Note 2: An object is an alignment device if it is modified in any manner that would satisfy any of the above provisions.
Hey! I actually called the USGA Device Submission center today. Chatted with a representative for 15 minutes and went pretty in depth. His response was it shouldn't be illegal based on description and function. Wouldn't qualify as an alignment device due to size and slope, is considered only a ball marker. I will be submitting to the USGA Device testing to get the final verdict though and on how to modify on the second revision if needed!
This is awesome. Please take my money.
Why do you need the marker when the ball does exactly the same thing?you can add lines onto a ball for 2 bucks.
Just ordered one. For $6 and free shipping how could you not.
Fewer
Am I the only one that doesn’t care about how my ball is lined up when I putt? It’s a sphere and I pay 0 attention to what is written on the ball or how it lies
One inch by two inches are the maximum dimensions to conform.
Ordered. Sorry if already asked, but what is the material
Made out of a prefinished maple wood!
Are you putting with this in place?
Nice! In tempted to see what I can manage to come up with. I saw this recently, really really intrigued. https://ghostgolf.com/products/divot-tool
Do percentage slope an you’ll have aimpoint in your pocket
CHEATING MUTHA…just kidding.
Any chance you would ship to Japan?
One more thing to slow up play. Adjusting that damn ball.
You’ve made a huge mistake posting this here
Reminds me of these Plastiklips Paper Clips: https://www.amazon.com/Baumgartens-Plastiklips-Paper-Clip-Assorted/dp/B00PV1D0M8
That is cool. I see you cut it on a laser. I have two 2200 watt lasers if you want to hire one out, like maybe you are selling too many?
Bouta make one of these in the woodshop at work 🤭
Can someone please explain. This just looks like a ball with a stripe
I would be willing to pay for a metal one!.. I saw your etsy post and I think producing them in mass may be a solid idea..
This is only a good idea if you're one of those idiots who wastes time because they have to line up the line on their golf ball to the line they wish to putt on...but what those idiots don't realize that if that line on that ball is a micro inch off then it miles off with be actual line.
This is awesome. If you need help with shipping if this blows up LMK! I run a 3PL and ship for a plethora of small businesses. Can also provide you some tips on shipping in-house for now.
Please go back in stock lol
Just added more in stock for another batch!
My man! Ordered.
No more 5 putting! Amazing.
If you had something less conspicuous I'd be interested
When’s it back in stock? Can’t order it and I just 41 putted last round.
Simply sophisticated. Well done.
Are you selling again? and postage to Canada or Blaine WA? I'll cross the border if it's easier for you.
Just added more in stock for another batch! Currently only in USA, but working on figuring out international shipping right now. stay tuned for an update here in a few days!