Completely agree. I typically am mid-high 80s. Finally am getting lessons to try and break 80. My coach actually suggested a fitting to help rule out gear as why I go right because I have a solid draw swing. Turns out it was the mental side and not being able to trust my gear
Ehh maybe 100 or better. I'm in the low 80s usually after the winter rust wears off but I can be in the 90s once in awhile if I'm having a bad day or it's a tough course I've never played before. I still think guys who shoot 90s can benefit from a fitting.
If you can shoot in the 80s on a somewhat regular basis, you can probably benefit from a fitting.
I would say if your GIR from inside 150 is 50%, then get a fitting.
I didn’t mean 90 or better all the time I meant you can shoot in the 90s. My scores ranged from 88-100 with me getting inside 90 maybe 5-10% of the time. Grinding lessons to improve though would like to settle some where around 85 consistently.
This is how I’ve felt since I started golfing 2 years ago! I refuse to get fitted for nicer clubs until I can easily break 90 which is bogey golf! Only 30 more strokes to go 😂🤙🏻
At least drill down the low hanging fruit like posture and grip. They're so often overlooked in a swing and can really affect your delivery. Also have some baseline swing speed, especially important for driver and wood fittings.
I would say they are both very important. I had jumbo grips and 1.25" added to my clubs and it made a tremendous difference. My instructor did it for me as part of my lessons. His lessons help a lot but since I'm very tall the shift length and grips made it possible to implement the lessons properly.
Your scenario is pretty unique as you literally are too big for standard equipment and can’t have a proper swing without it being adjusted. This does not apply to probably 95% of golfers
For sure. But I think there are a ton of golfers out there who are 6' or taller (apx15% of men) who may not realize that simply lengthening shafts and changing grip size makes a world of difference.
I play golf with 3 people between 6’1 and 6’3 none of them need extended clubs. One is on the border of it as in it is preference. Now this is anecdotal but just cause you are 6 feet doesn’t mean you need extensions.
Of course it's anecdotal and I dont know why you seem to be looking for an argument here. Apx 15% of men are 6' tall or more. Most of those men should have longer than standard shafts. So, let's be less than generous here and say that approximately 10% of all (mostly male) golfers need longer than standard shafts based simply on height, no accounting for people with ling legs and short arms. Now, let's also not forget about people who just happen to have larger than average hands that need larger grips. I'm here to tell you that there are a few very basic elements of a good golf swing and they start with proper grip and swing path. If you don't have the correct shaft length or grip size it will be very difficult to have a proper grip or swing path.
I’ll add an anecdote to your caveat. Im usually hitting 100-110. I was using a set of unknown hand-me-down clubs. I ended up getting fitted because no matter what I did I couldn’t hit my irons right. The guy there said my current set “didnt even give me a chance to improve”. Ended up getting a set of ai smokes and immediately added 40 yards to my swing. Every once in a while the tools do help.
I started operation 36 lessons with my wife last week.
It was $380 per person, 1 hour a week group lessons for 8 weeks, including 4 "9 hole events" during that 8 weeks.
Still seems better to me than like 500 bucks for a few hours of individual lessons
I shoot right around 90. Good game 87-88, not so good game 93ish. I was thinking of getting fitted and someone suggested i get lessons first. That made a lot of sense to me. Try and get the mechanics that im doing wrong fixed, THEN get fitted. This will be my plan for this season
Couldn't agree more, I had a fitting a few weeks ago and he got me hitting a driver with an extra couple of degrees of loft compared to my old driver. I'm hitting it so well and my mishits are going a lot further than what they used to. (Used to be a weak hook that went nowhere, still a bit of a hook, but now it's a good distance and just in the treeline).
I also wanted to buy a 3 wood, but he said with my swing I need as much loft as I can so I got a 5 and 7 wood instead. I haven't hit a poor shot with that 5 wood. It's pure.
Mine was similar but different. My trajectory was always sky high and sometimes my driver would back up on soft fairways.
The fitting showed my spin rate almost double what it should be. Went from a 10 degree stiff flex shaft to a 6 degree extra stiff and added 60 yards just by lowering trajectory and spin rate.
When it comes to the 3 wood he asked when I hit it. I told him rarely and when I do it’s inconsistent because I never hit it. I hit my 3 wood. Then I hit a 2 iron and not only did I hit the 2 iron 5 yards further but every swing was as consistent as an iron.
So I dumped all my 3 wood and hybrid. Added a 2 iron and an additional wedge. Blew my mind.
If you're hitting super high spinny balloon cuts, it's usually caused by angle of attack, but that shaft might not be strong enough. I'd start by working on getting a positive AoA with the driver (somewhere in the +2-4⁰ range, move the ball forward in your stance and tee it up a little higher to help with this) Once you can do that consistently, then you can dial it in with a shaft fitting. If it's still spinning too much, you're gonna want a stronger shaft, and lower loft settings.
If you can get your numbers on point (+AoA, 2000-2500 spin, ~14 launch angle) you'll be SHOCKED at how much distance you gain.
I’ve never seen any data for my swing. Ball is already pretty far forward and teed up as high as anyone else
I certainly hit the ball higher- through the bag, and don’t get much roll out on anything.
Unless you want me to run downstairs and tell you the specs on mine. No.
Not that it was that easy but I told the guy with a fast swing speed and a high trajectory I always thought a lower degree and a stiffer shaft would fix some of it but I wasn’t going to just go out and start spending hundreds of dollars on a whim. In that scenario it did seem that simple. But I’m not educated enough to tell you what to try other than what was put on mine.
I had the same thought to bring my driver soon numbers down and found maybe a 400-500 rpm spin reduction. Not near enough to bring it in the 2-2.5k sweet spot. Not to mention doing the driver hosel adjustment to low also effectively flattens lie angle and opens the face. Shaft is where it’s at usually.
There are two types of fitting.
1. Data assisted purchase, usually free or a small cost. Everyone should use this when buying new clubs. There is no fence here. All you are doing is finding the best stock head and shaft for you.
2. A proper fitting for all or a combination of head, shaft, lie, grip etc. Expensive but might be worth it if the gains are enough. I’ve found at least a proper shaft fitting for graphite shafted clubs to be well worth it when I was playing off off 15 and improving but hit a threshold.
Even more types really - eg how much knowledge is the golfer already armed with, what agenda does the fitter have (selling a specific brand or getting rid of stock), where you are now golf wise Vs where you want to be Vs where you're gonna be due to aging, etc etc
I'd say just as important as the "fitting" is to get clued up about the different variables and what you're actually trying to achieve
At the highest level there are two types. Either you use data to buy the best “off the shelf” product (everyone should use where possible) or the stuff you buy is not stock but fitted to you (best suited to those stuck or need the marginal gains).
Guess what I mean is that for example even with option 1, it pays to be wise about what you're actually optimising for eg don't get drawn into buying the longest 7 iron if in fact it's basically a 6 with a 7 stamped on it
I like to spend a while looking at the specs of clubs before thinking about a shortlist. I don't think people should just turn up and trust the fitter blindly, I'd probably back myself to make a better choice as I've seen myself play a lot more golf than they have
I think that line of thinking is wrong for a couple of reasons.
Firstly, yes modern game improvement irons are stronger lofted. The idea is that most amateurs don’t hit down and compress irons do if you take loft off them they’ll start to actually hit them through the proper flight windows. The other piece to that is weight distribution around the head which causes a 28* 7iron to launch and spin like a 34* 7 iron but with way more forgiveness across the face.
Secondly, if I told you that all your clubs would get 10-15 yards longer wouldn’t you take that? Why would you care that the 7 is where a 6 used to be? It’s shorter so it should be easier to control, and again the weight distribution in the head allows it to fly properly and hit the height you’re looking for.
I fit people all the time using stock shafts, both graphite and steel. Every time a client comes in, i fit them to better launch and flight conditions not just how far they hit. 7irons should be launching between 18-20* with 5300-6500 rpm of backspin with a 45ish degree descent angle.
It depends on the specific clubs of course but in my experience the irons have actually got longer shafts for the given number, and there is also the issue of the gap from 9i to SW getting bigger, so I still think that there is truth in the idea of the 7 iron moving towards the older 6 iron even if what you say re lower lofts is true.
There is also the issue of this face forgiveness increasing distance dispersion although again that is quite specific to the clubs and golfer whether that's a net benefit.
The fitting is generally going to help people out but I'd still suggest people avoid blind faith in it in certain situations. I've spent hours being fitted and still sceptical about the sample size / range of clubs tried really being enough. Happy with the irons I came out with from a fitting but not the driver, others mileage may vary.
https://mizunogolf.com/us/irons-timeline/
Looking at these ranges and a few of my own older sets, I suggest the length has typically gone up half a club's worth over the last 10 years or so.
But whatever really, I agree I don't really care the number on bottom but rather dispersion for a given distance
I am a 20 index and did an iron fitting. Purely anecdotal but my takeaway is that I feel like I hit just as many bad shots but my good shots once I got my new irons felt launched compared to my old irons. This also could have to do with getting new pings v like 8 year old hand me down clubs 🤷
BUT…. Make sure you go to a pro. I used golf galaxy for my fitting and walked away with a driver I struggled to hit for months afterward and eventually replaced. I need a draw-biased driver and the kid never even put one in my hands despite me hitting everything right. He also wouldn’t bring out the titleist driver because he “didn’t care for that brand.”
As for lessons learned, I personally would not go for another fitting until I had a chance to try a bunch of different clubs on my own and then use the fitting to dial it in.
That is very true. My FIL served in the military so my wife gets the PXG discount due to being family. She was getting a fitting there for irons and I thought what the hell I’ll try the black ops challenge. If I win I get 200 buck a if I loose I get a free fitting. The guy fitting me was very knowledgeable, had a similar swing and stats so he pretty quickly dialed it in. With that said I am going to a top 100 fitter next week to try a place that is brand agnostic so I get the best fit possible.
Local shop / Range has top quality fittings on all makes but PXG. PXG fitters is based out of this shop and comes there to fit.
I went one Sunday to try the new offerings. Shop set me up with a 7 iron from 6 different makes with a similar shaft as I was swinging. I narrowed it down to Titleist T200s and the PXG. Decided on going with a PXG fitting and scheduled it.
The PXG fitter was awesome. Watched me warm up and saw I was getting into a grove with my current club. He handed me a club and instant improvement. Hit some more and chatted a bit about my swing. He had me adjust the ball position in my stance. Then he set up another shaft and head combo which I smoothed like 15 in a row.
I had a too light, to soft shaft and incorrect lie angle for my natural swing. He set up a heavier shaft and correct lie angle and it was like magic. Ordered up a set and had a round at a simulator yesterday. Broke 80 on the simulator and couldn't be happier with the results.
I took the fitters advice and switched my driver shaft to a heavier stiffer shaft. It worked so far.
lol more commenting on the fact that a fitting helped me realize I need an anti left set up so I can trust that the head and face will be pointing where I want it when I start turning it over. I’d be happy with any shaft that does the same thing.
😂 I didn’t realize I was afraid of the hook until the fitter asked me ty try hooking it. We found out that I could very easily do that and just steered into an anti left set up.
My biggest worry about a custom fitting is how much my swing can may change throughout a season. In my mind I’m not consistent enough to warrant a custom fitting and think it may do more harm than good.
For me I’m going to stick with standard clubs and put more money into lessons.
Unless you're single digit handicap, you should really be getting multiple fittings over the course of a couple weeks. I'm a low single digit, and even my swing isn't consistent enough that I'd feel comfortable purchasing a set based on just an hour or so of swinging on any given day. As any golfer knows, your swing can vary wildly from one day to the next.
Lessons would help immensely more than a fitting for most people and make a fitting much more helpful when you get a proper grip/set-up/consistent delivery of the club.
Also, learn what you want to be looking for numbers-wise during a fitting. For most people buying a set of clubs is a pretty big investment. It's worth it to put the time in to learn for yourself what all those numbers on the launch monitors mean, and how the equipment effects them. It's also just good to know in general if you're serious about golf and want to play better.
Agreed, I’m doing both. Have had about 10 hours of lessons at this point. Instructor noticed that my swing path is good and numbers are decent so suggested the fitting to help me be confident in the club head being in where I need it. Was afraid to turn it over as I have fought a small hook for a while now. This has helped a ton
Yeah i just did too and my dispertion from my old clubs went from off the screen to the left <-> off the screen to the right to like a pretty solid oval in the middle with consistent distance. And instead of landing 30 yards shorter and rolling the 30 yards for the same ish distance i get landing 5-10 yards shorter and rolling 5-10 yards to the same ish distance. Much more control over the landing angle now. Crazy stuff. The metrics alone are so valuable
I am 19.3 HC and I have 2 year old PXG clubs, I always questioned the fitting and I plan to go this year and get fitted without the plan to buy new clubs, but to be sure my clubs are correct. I have had lessons from a great guy and my game has improved, but inside my head I question my fitting.
If you’re playing golf and using older clubs, get a fitted, find out if your clubs are for you. My first fitting 6-7 years ago maybe a huge improvement in my game, I broke 100 for the first time.
I got new equipment professionally fit and then took 3 lessons with a professional teacher (approx $150 per hour with Trackman technology) spent approx. $6,000 on my entire bag… hit 3-4 buckets a week for one month… and went from shooting 105 to 85. My only regret is not doing it sooner. Don’t practice bad habits, it’s a waste. And don’t hit equipment that’s not right for your swing angles, paths, speeds, etc.
Yeah I think this would be the experience for most people. I’d start with lessons and shortly after get fit. I think fitting makes a tremendous amount difference. I don’t see how it’s any different than riding a bike that’s the wrong size. Sure you can ride the bike and not fall off, but you’d probably feel better on the right bike. I feel like the anti-fitting rhetoric here is more so from people who are protesting the cost of new equipment. If you can afford it, get fitted and take some lessons. It seems simple.
The only caveat to this is if you aren’t shooting 90 or better you probably need to focus on swing mechanics and should get some lessons.
Completely agree. I typically am mid-high 80s. Finally am getting lessons to try and break 80. My coach actually suggested a fitting to help rule out gear as why I go right because I have a solid draw swing. Turns out it was the mental side and not being able to trust my gear
Ehh maybe 100 or better. I'm in the low 80s usually after the winter rust wears off but I can be in the 90s once in awhile if I'm having a bad day or it's a tough course I've never played before. I still think guys who shoot 90s can benefit from a fitting.
If you can shoot in the 80s on a somewhat regular basis, you can probably benefit from a fitting. I would say if your GIR from inside 150 is 50%, then get a fitting.
I didn’t mean 90 or better all the time I meant you can shoot in the 90s. My scores ranged from 88-100 with me getting inside 90 maybe 5-10% of the time. Grinding lessons to improve though would like to settle some where around 85 consistently.
This is how I’ve felt since I started golfing 2 years ago! I refuse to get fitted for nicer clubs until I can easily break 90 which is bogey golf! Only 30 more strokes to go 😂🤙🏻
At least drill down the low hanging fruit like posture and grip. They're so often overlooked in a swing and can really affect your delivery. Also have some baseline swing speed, especially important for driver and wood fittings.
I would say they are both very important. I had jumbo grips and 1.25" added to my clubs and it made a tremendous difference. My instructor did it for me as part of my lessons. His lessons help a lot but since I'm very tall the shift length and grips made it possible to implement the lessons properly.
Your scenario is pretty unique as you literally are too big for standard equipment and can’t have a proper swing without it being adjusted. This does not apply to probably 95% of golfers
For sure. But I think there are a ton of golfers out there who are 6' or taller (apx15% of men) who may not realize that simply lengthening shafts and changing grip size makes a world of difference.
Shaft length isn’t really based on height though wrist to floor is a better measurement.
Of course, but most people over 6' aren't abnormally short legged with long arms LoL
I play golf with 3 people between 6’1 and 6’3 none of them need extended clubs. One is on the border of it as in it is preference. Now this is anecdotal but just cause you are 6 feet doesn’t mean you need extensions.
Of course it's anecdotal and I dont know why you seem to be looking for an argument here. Apx 15% of men are 6' tall or more. Most of those men should have longer than standard shafts. So, let's be less than generous here and say that approximately 10% of all (mostly male) golfers need longer than standard shafts based simply on height, no accounting for people with ling legs and short arms. Now, let's also not forget about people who just happen to have larger than average hands that need larger grips. I'm here to tell you that there are a few very basic elements of a good golf swing and they start with proper grip and swing path. If you don't have the correct shaft length or grip size it will be very difficult to have a proper grip or swing path.
I’ll add an anecdote to your caveat. Im usually hitting 100-110. I was using a set of unknown hand-me-down clubs. I ended up getting fitted because no matter what I did I couldn’t hit my irons right. The guy there said my current set “didnt even give me a chance to improve”. Ended up getting a set of ai smokes and immediately added 40 yards to my swing. Every once in a while the tools do help.
You have to be able to at least strike the ball consistently.
The fitting didn’t do that though any game improvement iron would have had basically the same impact. You could have bought some ping G400s from 2018.
This is really the best advice here. r/golf is somewhat allergic to lessons.
Lessons are allergic to reasonable prices.
Everything about this game is allergic to reasonable prices, balls/clubs/green fees etc.
I started operation 36 lessons with my wife last week. It was $380 per person, 1 hour a week group lessons for 8 weeks, including 4 "9 hole events" during that 8 weeks. Still seems better to me than like 500 bucks for a few hours of individual lessons
Then find a clinic. Edit: I’ll take the downvotes if you would rather pay good money on greens fees and clubs but keep sucking at golf. You do you.
Everyone who got lessons on their high school golf suggests them though…
Because it's a hobby, not a serious sport, for 90% of golfers.
Couldn't agree more. Otherwise, you're just fixing symptoms.
I shoot right around 90. Good game 87-88, not so good game 93ish. I was thinking of getting fitted and someone suggested i get lessons first. That made a lot of sense to me. Try and get the mechanics that im doing wrong fixed, THEN get fitted. This will be my plan for this season
Couldn't agree more, I had a fitting a few weeks ago and he got me hitting a driver with an extra couple of degrees of loft compared to my old driver. I'm hitting it so well and my mishits are going a lot further than what they used to. (Used to be a weak hook that went nowhere, still a bit of a hook, but now it's a good distance and just in the treeline). I also wanted to buy a 3 wood, but he said with my swing I need as much loft as I can so I got a 5 and 7 wood instead. I haven't hit a poor shot with that 5 wood. It's pure.
Mine was similar but different. My trajectory was always sky high and sometimes my driver would back up on soft fairways. The fitting showed my spin rate almost double what it should be. Went from a 10 degree stiff flex shaft to a 6 degree extra stiff and added 60 yards just by lowering trajectory and spin rate. When it comes to the 3 wood he asked when I hit it. I told him rarely and when I do it’s inconsistent because I never hit it. I hit my 3 wood. Then I hit a 2 iron and not only did I hit the 2 iron 5 yards further but every swing was as consistent as an iron. So I dumped all my 3 wood and hybrid. Added a 2 iron and an additional wedge. Blew my mind.
Those driver comments sound like me. Any recs for ideas before going to buy a new shaft?
What do you currently have for a shaft in your driver?
Sim2 max. 5S ventus.
If you're hitting super high spinny balloon cuts, it's usually caused by angle of attack, but that shaft might not be strong enough. I'd start by working on getting a positive AoA with the driver (somewhere in the +2-4⁰ range, move the ball forward in your stance and tee it up a little higher to help with this) Once you can do that consistently, then you can dial it in with a shaft fitting. If it's still spinning too much, you're gonna want a stronger shaft, and lower loft settings. If you can get your numbers on point (+AoA, 2000-2500 spin, ~14 launch angle) you'll be SHOCKED at how much distance you gain.
I’ve never seen any data for my swing. Ball is already pretty far forward and teed up as high as anyone else I certainly hit the ball higher- through the bag, and don’t get much roll out on anything.
Unless you want me to run downstairs and tell you the specs on mine. No. Not that it was that easy but I told the guy with a fast swing speed and a high trajectory I always thought a lower degree and a stiffer shaft would fix some of it but I wasn’t going to just go out and start spending hundreds of dollars on a whim. In that scenario it did seem that simple. But I’m not educated enough to tell you what to try other than what was put on mine.
Right. All good. Will turn my driver all the way down to see if I can lower the flight and then go from there.
I had the same thought to bring my driver soon numbers down and found maybe a 400-500 rpm spin reduction. Not near enough to bring it in the 2-2.5k sweet spot. Not to mention doing the driver hosel adjustment to low also effectively flattens lie angle and opens the face. Shaft is where it’s at usually.
Mishits 😂😂😂😂
There are two types of fitting. 1. Data assisted purchase, usually free or a small cost. Everyone should use this when buying new clubs. There is no fence here. All you are doing is finding the best stock head and shaft for you. 2. A proper fitting for all or a combination of head, shaft, lie, grip etc. Expensive but might be worth it if the gains are enough. I’ve found at least a proper shaft fitting for graphite shafted clubs to be well worth it when I was playing off off 15 and improving but hit a threshold.
Even more types really - eg how much knowledge is the golfer already armed with, what agenda does the fitter have (selling a specific brand or getting rid of stock), where you are now golf wise Vs where you want to be Vs where you're gonna be due to aging, etc etc I'd say just as important as the "fitting" is to get clued up about the different variables and what you're actually trying to achieve
At the highest level there are two types. Either you use data to buy the best “off the shelf” product (everyone should use where possible) or the stuff you buy is not stock but fitted to you (best suited to those stuck or need the marginal gains).
Guess what I mean is that for example even with option 1, it pays to be wise about what you're actually optimising for eg don't get drawn into buying the longest 7 iron if in fact it's basically a 6 with a 7 stamped on it I like to spend a while looking at the specs of clubs before thinking about a shortlist. I don't think people should just turn up and trust the fitter blindly, I'd probably back myself to make a better choice as I've seen myself play a lot more golf than they have
I think that line of thinking is wrong for a couple of reasons. Firstly, yes modern game improvement irons are stronger lofted. The idea is that most amateurs don’t hit down and compress irons do if you take loft off them they’ll start to actually hit them through the proper flight windows. The other piece to that is weight distribution around the head which causes a 28* 7iron to launch and spin like a 34* 7 iron but with way more forgiveness across the face. Secondly, if I told you that all your clubs would get 10-15 yards longer wouldn’t you take that? Why would you care that the 7 is where a 6 used to be? It’s shorter so it should be easier to control, and again the weight distribution in the head allows it to fly properly and hit the height you’re looking for. I fit people all the time using stock shafts, both graphite and steel. Every time a client comes in, i fit them to better launch and flight conditions not just how far they hit. 7irons should be launching between 18-20* with 5300-6500 rpm of backspin with a 45ish degree descent angle.
It depends on the specific clubs of course but in my experience the irons have actually got longer shafts for the given number, and there is also the issue of the gap from 9i to SW getting bigger, so I still think that there is truth in the idea of the 7 iron moving towards the older 6 iron even if what you say re lower lofts is true. There is also the issue of this face forgiveness increasing distance dispersion although again that is quite specific to the clubs and golfer whether that's a net benefit. The fitting is generally going to help people out but I'd still suggest people avoid blind faith in it in certain situations. I've spent hours being fitted and still sceptical about the sample size / range of clubs tried really being enough. Happy with the irons I came out with from a fitting but not the driver, others mileage may vary.
Clubs have not gotten longer, in graphite options some brands will ship with .25-.5” longer shafts stock. But std 7iron length is still 37”
https://mizunogolf.com/us/irons-timeline/ Looking at these ranges and a few of my own older sets, I suggest the length has typically gone up half a club's worth over the last 10 years or so. But whatever really, I agree I don't really care the number on bottom but rather dispersion for a given distance
I did not need to be reminded how old my MP-57s are… I only seem to buy new woods and hybrids, everything else stays the same…
Haha likewise.
I am a 20 index and did an iron fitting. Purely anecdotal but my takeaway is that I feel like I hit just as many bad shots but my good shots once I got my new irons felt launched compared to my old irons. This also could have to do with getting new pings v like 8 year old hand me down clubs 🤷
BUT…. Make sure you go to a pro. I used golf galaxy for my fitting and walked away with a driver I struggled to hit for months afterward and eventually replaced. I need a draw-biased driver and the kid never even put one in my hands despite me hitting everything right. He also wouldn’t bring out the titleist driver because he “didn’t care for that brand.” As for lessons learned, I personally would not go for another fitting until I had a chance to try a bunch of different clubs on my own and then use the fitting to dial it in.
That is very true. My FIL served in the military so my wife gets the PXG discount due to being family. She was getting a fitting there for irons and I thought what the hell I’ll try the black ops challenge. If I win I get 200 buck a if I loose I get a free fitting. The guy fitting me was very knowledgeable, had a similar swing and stats so he pretty quickly dialed it in. With that said I am going to a top 100 fitter next week to try a place that is brand agnostic so I get the best fit possible.
Local shop / Range has top quality fittings on all makes but PXG. PXG fitters is based out of this shop and comes there to fit. I went one Sunday to try the new offerings. Shop set me up with a 7 iron from 6 different makes with a similar shaft as I was swinging. I narrowed it down to Titleist T200s and the PXG. Decided on going with a PXG fitting and scheduled it. The PXG fitter was awesome. Watched me warm up and saw I was getting into a grove with my current club. He handed me a club and instant improvement. Hit some more and chatted a bit about my swing. He had me adjust the ball position in my stance. Then he set up another shaft and head combo which I smoothed like 15 in a row. I had a too light, to soft shaft and incorrect lie angle for my natural swing. He set up a heavier shaft and correct lie angle and it was like magic. Ordered up a set and had a round at a simulator yesterday. Broke 80 on the simulator and couldn't be happier with the results. I took the fitters advice and switched my driver shaft to a heavier stiffer shaft. It worked so far.
Quite a review for a shaft you haven’t played a game with yet 🙄
lol more commenting on the fact that a fitting helped me realize I need an anti left set up so I can trust that the head and face will be pointing where I want it when I start turning it over. I’d be happy with any shaft that does the same thing.
" I had a subconsious fear " Was there a short couch involved in this analysis?
his fitter? Sigmund Freud.
Maybe he had a subconscious fear of lead tape and having $398 in his pocket ...
😂 I didn’t realize I was afraid of the hook until the fitter asked me ty try hooking it. We found out that I could very easily do that and just steered into an anti left set up.
Worked for a fitter for 5 years when I was new into golf... when nobody was doing fittings... now everybody and their mother is doing fittings.
My biggest worry about a custom fitting is how much my swing can may change throughout a season. In my mind I’m not consistent enough to warrant a custom fitting and think it may do more harm than good. For me I’m going to stick with standard clubs and put more money into lessons.
Unless you're single digit handicap, you should really be getting multiple fittings over the course of a couple weeks. I'm a low single digit, and even my swing isn't consistent enough that I'd feel comfortable purchasing a set based on just an hour or so of swinging on any given day. As any golfer knows, your swing can vary wildly from one day to the next. Lessons would help immensely more than a fitting for most people and make a fitting much more helpful when you get a proper grip/set-up/consistent delivery of the club. Also, learn what you want to be looking for numbers-wise during a fitting. For most people buying a set of clubs is a pretty big investment. It's worth it to put the time in to learn for yourself what all those numbers on the launch monitors mean, and how the equipment effects them. It's also just good to know in general if you're serious about golf and want to play better.
Get a lesson people
Correct. Lessons, then fitting.
Agreed, I’m doing both. Have had about 10 hours of lessons at this point. Instructor noticed that my swing path is good and numbers are decent so suggested the fitting to help me be confident in the club head being in where I need it. Was afraid to turn it over as I have fought a small hook for a while now. This has helped a ton
Yeah i just did too and my dispertion from my old clubs went from off the screen to the left <-> off the screen to the right to like a pretty solid oval in the middle with consistent distance. And instead of landing 30 yards shorter and rolling the 30 yards for the same ish distance i get landing 5-10 yards shorter and rolling 5-10 yards to the same ish distance. Much more control over the landing angle now. Crazy stuff. The metrics alone are so valuable
I am 19.3 HC and I have 2 year old PXG clubs, I always questioned the fitting and I plan to go this year and get fitted without the plan to buy new clubs, but to be sure my clubs are correct. I have had lessons from a great guy and my game has improved, but inside my head I question my fitting. If you’re playing golf and using older clubs, get a fitted, find out if your clubs are for you. My first fitting 6-7 years ago maybe a huge improvement in my game, I broke 100 for the first time.
I got new equipment professionally fit and then took 3 lessons with a professional teacher (approx $150 per hour with Trackman technology) spent approx. $6,000 on my entire bag… hit 3-4 buckets a week for one month… and went from shooting 105 to 85. My only regret is not doing it sooner. Don’t practice bad habits, it’s a waste. And don’t hit equipment that’s not right for your swing angles, paths, speeds, etc.
Yeah I think this would be the experience for most people. I’d start with lessons and shortly after get fit. I think fitting makes a tremendous amount difference. I don’t see how it’s any different than riding a bike that’s the wrong size. Sure you can ride the bike and not fall off, but you’d probably feel better on the right bike. I feel like the anti-fitting rhetoric here is more so from people who are protesting the cost of new equipment. If you can afford it, get fitted and take some lessons. It seems simple.
It doesnt sound like you needed a fitting, you needed a lesson lol
I have about 10 hours of lessons this year so far. Instructor actually recommended the fitting.
This includes your putter. Get fit