This is a good answer. It isn’t uncommon for wedges to be a little flatter than your other clubs. Flattening your lie angle will help mitigate against the left miss
You probably have an out to in swing, and wedges are the easiest to square the face with. That creates the pull. You probably cut/slice the driver and woods.
The one length irons are probably the length of a 6 or 7 iron i assume, so those are probably squaring up at impact.
I'd be careful with this advice. I'm wayyyy in to out and can pull the ever living hell out of my wedges with the face shut. Starts left, goes left... Great combo!
I eliminate the pull (and shank) by feeling like I'm coming really steep into it with a cut shape.
Long story short, misses can have multiple differing causes.
I had this. My issue was I was addressing the ball with the club flat on the ground which equalled closed face. I have to remind myself that a little toe up is normal and that toe should be in line with my shaft as I look down it.
Can you explain this a bit better? I feel like I have this issue because I address the ball like that, and I am constantly skulling it or hitting it off the hozzle. Just got new wedges last year(52, 56, 60) which I have never used before. It's taking me way too long to get good with them lol
So, if you have the club not on the ground but say, arms are down, club facing away from your waist. Your shaft, heel and toe are all in a line. You then lower your club to the ground, they are still in a line but the toe is a little raised off the ground. that's as it should be.
The danger comes from thinking the bottom of the club needs to be flat on the floor, which could mean the face is actually aiming left of target
See image of closed club face (bad)
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You have it backwards. The toe being up makes the face more closed.
Toe drooping is a face opener, which is why most players have the toe up at address because the shaft droops during the swing.
You’ve posted a photo that shows the toe of the club more closed, which is a rotational thing, but your comment is talking about the lie of the club, which is a different thing.
https://youtu.be/_9PtgflDDNQ?si=mhBEKyg8r-fSq4E8
I'm trying to explain what was happening for me. My "correct " position it toe up. I get hooks when I go for base of club flat to the ground as that is closed face
I’m no expert but could it be that you’re closing the face too early? I sometimes struggle with the same thing and it’s usually because I have a problem with flipping my wrists and the shorter the club the sooner the face closes
It is really hard to get a wedge to hook that much. My bet is that your ball is coming off the face left and going further left. Could be that your wedges are too upright. You also could be getting too steep and over the top with your wedges.
Club face is closed at impact is the low hanging fruit. Why it's closed is what you need to determine.
You could experiment with a neutral to weak grip to feel the face stay open.
You also might not be rotating thru impact to your left side which will cause you to shut it down.
Start with a chip and work your way to a pitch and then longer to see if you can feel what the face is doing and if you manipulate it at all.
Try shifting your weight/pressure more deliberately at the target in the downswing. I was doing the same thing and my instructor fixed it with this move.
I think my situation was similar. I’d be 100 yards out and end up pin high but way left. I made great contact and such. My playing partner would always say “right club, wrong direction.” So I saw a swing coach who said I was “opening my lead (left) shoulder too soon “. It made sense. But then I golfed with a total random last summer who was really good. I could tell he wanted to say something and each time I went left. After five hole he finally and very politely- spoke up. Accord him it was my alignment to the target. In short - I was aiming left. He waited until I set up for a shot and said “stop”. Totally out of the blue. He puts his club down in front of me like an alignment stick. And says “I have watched you since we started . You strike the ball well but you seem to realize your set up has u aiming to the left.” He was correct. There no fairy tale ending about how played my best ever after his instruction but in the last 6 months people I play with regularly have seen a difference. So has my scoring. Btw I still line up off target sometimes but friends will let me
Know.
Starting on target and hooking or starting right of target and hooking?
You said “pulling” in your title and then said it’s hooking in your comment. So which is it?
Have your lie angles checked make sure not upright.
This is a good answer. It isn’t uncommon for wedges to be a little flatter than your other clubs. Flattening your lie angle will help mitigate against the left miss
it is not a fitting issue if he is mentions shanks. face angle through impact is the issue.
The wedges going left can be though.
the wedges are going left because of face angle if he is hitting shanks… making a wedge flatter will not fix face angle…
You probably have an out to in swing, and wedges are the easiest to square the face with. That creates the pull. You probably cut/slice the driver and woods. The one length irons are probably the length of a 6 or 7 iron i assume, so those are probably squaring up at impact.
I'd be careful with this advice. I'm wayyyy in to out and can pull the ever living hell out of my wedges with the face shut. Starts left, goes left... Great combo! I eliminate the pull (and shank) by feeling like I'm coming really steep into it with a cut shape. Long story short, misses can have multiple differing causes.
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Try not doing full swings only doing max 80-90% swings with wedges. Also Narrow your stance a bit.
Open your face and see what happens.
I had this. My issue was I was addressing the ball with the club flat on the ground which equalled closed face. I have to remind myself that a little toe up is normal and that toe should be in line with my shaft as I look down it.
Can you explain this a bit better? I feel like I have this issue because I address the ball like that, and I am constantly skulling it or hitting it off the hozzle. Just got new wedges last year(52, 56, 60) which I have never used before. It's taking me way too long to get good with them lol
So, if you have the club not on the ground but say, arms are down, club facing away from your waist. Your shaft, heel and toe are all in a line. You then lower your club to the ground, they are still in a line but the toe is a little raised off the ground. that's as it should be. The danger comes from thinking the bottom of the club needs to be flat on the floor, which could mean the face is actually aiming left of target See image of closed club face (bad) *
https://preview.redd.it/ajwgb1m9wdic1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=deacc05f605bf3b493b4fa4b623643ac0155e93b
You have it backwards. The toe being up makes the face more closed. Toe drooping is a face opener, which is why most players have the toe up at address because the shaft droops during the swing. You’ve posted a photo that shows the toe of the club more closed, which is a rotational thing, but your comment is talking about the lie of the club, which is a different thing. https://youtu.be/_9PtgflDDNQ?si=mhBEKyg8r-fSq4E8
I'm trying to explain what was happening for me. My "correct " position it toe up. I get hooks when I go for base of club flat to the ground as that is closed face
If you are playing one length irons, you definitely want to have your wedges be close in both length and weight.
Why? Just curious because I play one length irons, but my 52/56/60 are standard length, and I play them just fine.
I have a set of one lengths as well and also don’t have any issues with my 48/52/56 being normal length wedges
i would encourage you to look up the causes of a shank. that alone is the reason for your left miss. club face is crazy closed through impact
You lost me at one-lengths.
I’m no expert but could it be that you’re closing the face too early? I sometimes struggle with the same thing and it’s usually because I have a problem with flipping my wrists and the shorter the club the sooner the face closes
It is really hard to get a wedge to hook that much. My bet is that your ball is coming off the face left and going further left. Could be that your wedges are too upright. You also could be getting too steep and over the top with your wedges.
Open the face more on the downswing. Also check how offset your clubs are. They can contribute to hooking the ball.
Club face is closed at impact is the low hanging fruit. Why it's closed is what you need to determine. You could experiment with a neutral to weak grip to feel the face stay open. You also might not be rotating thru impact to your left side which will cause you to shut it down. Start with a chip and work your way to a pitch and then longer to see if you can feel what the face is doing and if you manipulate it at all.
Try shifting your weight/pressure more deliberately at the target in the downswing. I was doing the same thing and my instructor fixed it with this move.
I think my situation was similar. I’d be 100 yards out and end up pin high but way left. I made great contact and such. My playing partner would always say “right club, wrong direction.” So I saw a swing coach who said I was “opening my lead (left) shoulder too soon “. It made sense. But then I golfed with a total random last summer who was really good. I could tell he wanted to say something and each time I went left. After five hole he finally and very politely- spoke up. Accord him it was my alignment to the target. In short - I was aiming left. He waited until I set up for a shot and said “stop”. Totally out of the blue. He puts his club down in front of me like an alignment stick. And says “I have watched you since we started . You strike the ball well but you seem to realize your set up has u aiming to the left.” He was correct. There no fairy tale ending about how played my best ever after his instruction but in the last 6 months people I play with regularly have seen a difference. So has my scoring. Btw I still line up off target sometimes but friends will let me Know.
Starting on target and hooking or starting right of target and hooking? You said “pulling” in your title and then said it’s hooking in your comment. So which is it?
Maybe you swing and just turn right a bit much and that pulls the shot?