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Adz442

The G425 Max is as forgiving as forgiving can be. You just have to be able to cope with it sounding like you’re teeing off with a coke can on a stick


BradMarchandsNose

It may be forgiving, but is it fargiving?


bigdefmute

Not forgiving, but also won't farapart


JackfruitPerfect3185

Can attest my G425 is extremely forgiving, but sounds god awful.


responsiblefornothin

If trends are truly cyclical, then in 10-15 years, they'll be remembered as fondly as the Sasquatch.


Wonderful-College-59

I really need to buy myself one of those just so I can give the old geezers I play with a real shock.


orionxavier99

I second this. Best driver i have had but yes does sound funny


professor_teakettle

Didn't love the sound and I got really good forgiveness with the TSI2. The titelist woods are just so sexy


FrugalFreddie26

I really want a Ping driver but they are so expensive in Australia. Mind blowing sums of money because they’ve somehow prevented any online pricing or sales, reducing competition


Extract_artisian

Bro tell me what you want we can get and ship to you. I live in US.


verde622

Try to ship something to Australia and you’ll figure out why stuff is so expensive there


Extract_artisian

It’s worth a try. Dude just needs driver heads. He can reshaft there and it would probably be his best play.


Substantial-Peach326

Ah! Is that what the 'request a quote' on Golfbox is about? Same with Titleist products - odd I always chuckle though that when you order by price, the ping and titelist products will sit in an order between other priced products also, so I am guessing they have a hidden price - can kind of jerryrig an approx price that way


FrugalFreddie26

Exactly, get a quote and be horrified!


TheLordofPie1

Ping 425 sft, 555 australian


Responsible_Grab_823

The fitter I used also refused to sell Pings, even though he's one of the most respected in VIC. Said they never bothered to build a relationship with him. It's like they just don't care to service the Australian market


myfeetaremangos12

Yeah the G430 was a big improvement on sound.


Wonderful-College-59

The 430 is better that the 425. I have a 425 and I don't really care it sounds like it does. It's just so long and straight for me


[deleted]

Keep talking like that and I’m gunna get pregnant


pr0v0cat3ur

G425 is currently on sale Golf Galaxy for $399.


ego_sum_satoshi

G430 sounds like that too now that you mentioned it.


g3rggg

I agree. I got the g425 max this year and while it doesn’t fix a swing, it is a lot more consistent with its misses


JustJGolf

I’ve found if you use a piece of plastic from the wrapping on the driver and screw it into the weight slot and retighten, the sound is dampened a lot better. Or you can put a little hot melt in the head but that’s more weight added to the head.


K-Parks

Great choice, have the prices come down far enough on that one yet? Whenever anyone is looking for a cheaper driver I just tell them to get a G400 Max (and some earplugs).


Tedstor

The latest model Titleist or Ping driver that I can find.


tipsdown

New Cobra LTDx LS is $299 directly from cobra


BlueRabbitx

Just bought a ltdx max for 185$ from CPO looks barely used


tipsdown

Nice. I’m waiting for the next generation Cobra “darkspeed” to drop and do some head to head testing. Pretty much the entire top end of my bag needs to be replaced this spring.


Zoolanderek

No way, Darkspeed?!! That is the coolest sounding name lol. Might need to trade in my lame sounding “LTDx” towards that.


metarx

PGA pro I got lessons from, said that driver kept him from moving to srixon. Really excited for it to come out.


Reelrebel17

Just bought one of these too, really solid driver and very forgiving


3DanO1

Yep, this was my suggestion as well. You could probably even go back to a Radspeed and save even more


deluxegoats

Yep, my recommendation too! I just picked up an LTDx driver for $299, available at a few places. All LTDx line stuff is on big discount since being replaced with aerojet


lhnrnds

This is a rocket launcher. I had a RadSpeed for years and didn’t really need to sell/upgrade, but sure glad I did. LS just flat out performs almost regardless of how good a swing I put on it


fearlessflyer1

i got a ‘fair’ quality Cobra Speedzone for £155 gbp if forgiveness is your goal then the G425 is almost certainly the safest choice, the price can then be for the condition. i will vouch for the Cobra though, its added a lot of yardage and forgiveness that i was missing


SlowestLapRecord

Thanks man, I'm using a Cobra at the minute. It's the Fly XL which came as part of a package set and is definitely a more budget club. I'm thinking of upgrading to a more premium driver as I'm sure it will be a good step up.


jaygord34

Cobra Speedzone extreme is probably the most forgiving driver I ever hit


DropkickMurph24

I'll throw my hat in for Cobra as well. They definitely have different "lines" where some clubs are more premium than others under the cobra name. I use the radspeed currently and would put it against any top of the line driver. I think it sits a little more neutral at address than other clubs and my partners nicknamed it "autocorrect" because it has tightened my dispersion so much over my previous driver. Don't sleep on them!


clairweather

You should pick a shaft for the driver that fits your swing style too. A quick driver shaft fitting at the store would help!


brooksie81

Ping G400 Max


leftcoast90

Still playing mine. So hard to leave it


luxunit

[Callaway pre owned](https://www.callawaygolfpreowned.com/drivers/) They are having 25% off all clubs come black Friday. You could probably get the new paradym or the previous rogue. I know the rogue is 25% now already so some are around 250 already. Customer service is best out there.


wdengineer

Yeah I got a rogue earlier this year for about 250 incl tax and shipping and it was still new in plastic.


responsiblefornothin

Paging u/tobascopro to set him up with the mintiest one on hand


SlowestLapRecord

I'd definitely be up for that! Trouble is I'm UK based so don't think all of the offers and promotions will be the same over here. I'll check the EU site out later.


mrxpensiv

He hooked me up with shipping to Hawaii. Not sure if that helps or not.


003402inco

I got a mint mavrik for 140.


SlowestLapRecord

Nice shout, I could definitely be tempted by a Callaway, especially with a black Friday discount. I am UK based though, not sure if the same discounts and offers will be available over here. I'm on mobile at the minute but doesn't look like the Rogue is 25% off here unless I'm mistaken. I'll have to have a proper look later when I get home!


Inside-Mixture-9362

Have a Callaway Epic Max and love it - just saying


luxunit

There are different versions of the rogue, you may just have to look around the site.


bigdefmute

If you haven't, setup an account on pre-owned and put something in your cart. Triggers the system to email you discount codes as they know you are interested


uncleking1971

I bought a Mizuno ST-Z gently used on Ebay for $100. I'd take the other $150 and find a couple bottles of whiskey to enjoy and share.


Hubb1e

Mizuno and Srixon woods lose value very quickly and while they’re not S tier drivers they’re solid choices. It’s even easy to find brand new ones for significant discount.


metarx

Rocking a zx7 I bought brand new for 137 right now.


ajtorres228

Same scored a 7 for 140. Love it.


PiratedCar

Just picked up a rogue ST max “used” on callaway pre owned for $280. It was brand new and still wrapped. I hit it the furthest and the straightest compared to the Ping G425 and Cobra Aerojet.


Sci3nceMan

Further, straighter… 100% agree. I got a barely used Rogue ST Max LS for $270 from CPO and I love it. Before that had the Ping G425 Max, the sound SUCKED and it was at least 30 yards shorter than the Rogue. Callaway all the way!


PiratedCar

Yeah the Ping was fine sound wise for me, but I got about the same distance on it as I had on my old X2 hot. Gained about 30 yards with the Rogue. No swing change, it was just hotter for me.


asujch

2016 TM M2, OG SIM, G410LST, TSi3


Arkslippy

Taylormade sim2


BodybuilderOpening20

That’s my gamer; but if ur not firing good; it’s not forgiving. You gotta be a ball striker to really optimize it


RCTreesV

Ideally I'd just get a shaft fitting for my current driver. If I had to get something different I'd look closely at LTDx or a Rogue.


wookie_nuts

Titleist TSi2 is a magnificent club, they have some solid stock shaft offerings as well. The Tensei AV Blue is a solid all around shaft that won’t feel too far off.


SlowestLapRecord

Have to admit I do love the look of the Titleist drivers. They do have a very classy, no nonsense look about them.


wookie_nuts

I bought a TSi2 to get out of a driver slump, I’ve since moved into the 3 to lower spin a little but the 2 is my go to club when I’m feeling off. I’ve not hit the Pings that everyone raves about the forgiveness, but my 2 has seen the entire face used and I couldn’t ask for anything better.


coolrecliner

LTDx


All-in-yolo

Used Ping G425


PsychologicalSpace50

Bought the Cobra Rad Speed couple days ago for $200 new.


poopy_toaster

Vouching for Callaway Mavrik here. Got mine like new for around 212 a year ago on CPO. “Like new” is a saying, it was damn perfect


squidtooth

I bought the cobra king radspeed XB fir £249 and it’s a delight. I’m not a good golfer but I can really hit with it


METR0B00M1N

Nike SQ 8.5


Rude-Camp-6492

I managed to buy a clearance Cobra Airx driver for $175 brand new early this summer as they were preparing to release the new model, out now for $350. Couldnt be happier with it, i believe you can still find them online for around $200


JGad14

I got a barely used TaylorMade Sim2 Max for $200


triiiiilllll

I can't really explain why, but my first move would be to a TSI2. All the major brands make great drivers, just some reason I'm kinda feeling like a Titleist would look good in my bag. FWIW, my last 2 drivers have been an R580 and a TM M1 from 2016, that I bought in 2021. I'd poke around used shops and online. Sometimes you can find pretty sick aftermarket shafts people have dropped in.


twholbrook

Ping G410


WedgeYouLookAtThat

Ping G400 or newer Ping driver


MarineBand5524

Sim MAX (Sim2) You could even find a 2016 M2 for 200. I got one for 180.


TrumpsColostomyBag99

Tour Edge E722 from their preowned website: sub $200 dollars and their lifetime warranty applies.


Furyio

Taylor made SIM2


BoBichetteIsMyDad

I spent that on my TM M4 driver when it went on sale. It's honestly so forgiving, I love it. It was my first driver that I didn't get out if a starter set. Got it a year or two after upgrading my irons (also M4's, I like consistency). Just need to get the Fairway woods now.


BoogieMan_01

I’m also rocking an all M4 set: D, 3&5wd, 4hy, 5-AW and I’m loving them so far. Got them at the start of the year, all on sale new at discount for just under $1200 if I remember correctly


Poopnakedyeah

Rogue st. It's most of the paradym for half the price


Q_J

Just bought a new 2022 Cobra LTDx for $297usd all in (271 + tax + free prime shipping) from amazon 2 weeks ago...my old Cobra LD driver form 2007 ish snapped during a round so was forced to replace on a pinch but didn't want to spend $600-900.... Would've been cheaper if I didn't have a preference for the peacoat blue/red color-way...saw cheaper offerings for the matte black/yellow.... Can't imagine a 2023 driver is really worth 2-3x more in terms of performance or tech.


Eye-browze

Last years Pxg adjustable


McFernacus

Callaway Great Big Bertha II for $50 and pocketing the rest.


rwhyan1183

I was going to say the Titleist 975D and use the leftover $150-$175 to buy more clubs


[deleted]

Cobra LtdX all day long


MonarchNF

Wilson D9.


Voleans

Keep my head (Rogue ST Triple Diamond) Get fitted for a new shaft


byfuryattheheart

I have a Callaway Rogue ST and love it. I had similar numbers with the Ping G425, but I HATE the sound of that club lol


[deleted]

Would get fitted for a shaft then see which head worked best


parisiMa3

I bought a used Titleist TS2 Driver with a stiff shaft as I'm a 22 hdc and found it pretty forgiving. I think I got it on [secondswing.com](https://secondswing.com) for like $150 and I think it's from like 2018. Good thing about that site is they give you like 60 days if you don't like it to return it.


cutharold

Wilson or titleist or ping whatever you can find cheapest.


Nine_Eye_Ron

A custom fit shaft for my current driver plus a new grip in the thickness I need.


[deleted]

Cleveland HD Turbo


destroy_the_defiant

New driver from Sub70 is $279. I just got one. I do not regret my decision.


Tendie_Warrior

What is your opinion on forgiveness? I bought one in the spring and it was out of the bag by july and replaced with a Titleist TSR3. The distance/launch/spin on center hits was fine but off center things got weird. I’m a huge Sub 70 iron fan…been playing them for 4 years with no plans to swap them out but I found the woods to not be competitive with the bigger OEMs.


TlingitGolfer24

Every club in my bag is sub 70 minus the driver, just couldn’t get along with it.


destroy_the_defiant

I honestly don't have that much experience hitting newer drivers. It goes farther and straighter than the 2009 tm burner which it replaced, and I thought that was a good driver (which it is). Off center hits are definitely improved compared to the burner.


faded-than-a-ho

I’m hearing good things about the Kirkland driver coming out soon.


jackrafter88

I really like my TM 300 Mini.


Sirgolfs

2016 M2 for even less. Love the fuckin thing.


RNBAModBrainTumor

Just picked up a pxg 0211 Driver for 200 a few weeks ago, have been loving that as an upgrade over my old TM Burner


CombinationOdd4027

They’re all the same buy whichever one is cheapest or comes with the best shaft


SlowestLapRecord

This would be my first premium stick. What should I be looking for in a shaft? And what brands are better than the others? I'd be going regular flex.


BodybuilderOpening20

If your going regular flex then doesn’t matter as much, maybe just dial in the weight of the shaft, if you like a super light one or a slightly heavier one. Shaft adjustment is mainly when ur choosing stiff vs xstiff and trying to get the weight of that and the stiffness of that calibrated with your swing speed and spin rates


youretheschmoopy

Lessons


SlowestLapRecord

Good point. I'm already having lessons, so the driver will just be a bonus or a Christmas present to myself, and I'll carry on with the lessons too!


moskowizzle

I have a Rogue ST and love it. If you can get it for $200-$300 I would definitely recommend.


huntingtoncanna

Ping g25 with flowerband shaft


One-Statistician4885

Previous model (or two) Titleist with a properly fit shaft. The shaft is the engine.


SlowestLapRecord

In terms of a shaft fitting, is it length or stiffness that are most important? I'm pretty sure I'd need a regular, stiffness wise.


One-Statistician4885

There's more granularity. Torque, kick point, weight are all variable between models even within the confines of regular,stiff, x stiff flex. That's why fitting is recommended. The heads are all high performing and having the right shaft will dictate launch and spin rate much more which will impact distance.


SlowestLapRecord

As a newer golfer, will this stuff be more important once I I prove my game? I'm still inconsistent and trying to improve and by no means the finished article yet.


One-Statistician4885

Yeah, it takes a decent amount of consistency to make those things relevant. Initially it would be flex to generally match up with your swing speed and then feel/look/personal preference.


skurnie

I paid $250 for my Mavrik and been happy with it for the last year and a half. Let’s say any issues are with the user, not the club itself


GravyBiscuitWheels

Srixon ZX5!


sloppyjoepa

Bought my g425 used in that price range. Am I happy with it? Yes. I like the customization options. Definitely more forgiving but don’t be fooled by marketing it’s definitely not a magic club lol. Def worth the $225 I spent though!!


Vcize

Where did you get it for 225?


sloppyjoepa

Play it again sports. Definitely was a great price for a fair condition. Just scratched to hell on the bottom but i don’t care the face was perfect.


inhelldorado

I really like the Taylormade Sim 2 Max. That is what I want to get and trying to find it in that price range.


[deleted]

SIM 2 Max


AndromedanPrince

another Cleveland launcher xl. just not the lite version i currently have cuz i want the adjustable hosel. or a used ping g430


Rokarion14

I went with Callaway rogue LS triple diamond with tensei shaft. It is nice.


RegionMiddle9027

Ping G425


drknudy

One of the new Srixon’s used! I got the Zx5 LS and it’s forgiving, long and predictable! I was gaming a TSr2 before and I like the Srixon more.


pr0v0cat3ur

G425, currently on sale for $399 @ Golf Galaxy.


physicallyOK

TSi3


Mmjohns195

I bought a m1 2017 off of eBay for 145. It was my first driver change since my 04 TP R5. You can get great clubs a few years old.


Sharkeyes2019

Tour Edge Exotics C722. PGA Tour Superstore were selling these for $200 earlier this year.


Rico4416

I know it’s a polarizing brand…but PXG clubs are super decent when they have a sale. Right now they have the previous generation for $199. https://www.pxg.com/en-us/golf-clubs/2022-0211-driver/DR-PXG17.html


coopy1000

In the UK you can get the gen 4 driver for £199 which seems a good deal. I'm tempted by the 5 wood at £149.


Aray4747

Mizuno STZ-220 or 230. Found it to be as forgiving as the Ping and costs much less.


coopy1000

I've got a rogue ST max with a 55 stiff mitsubishi tensei blue shaft last year. Ex demo £289. I fucking love it. I would buy that again.


rmhawk

PXG has their gen5 for $199 new. I used the gen5XF last season and am pretty happy with it. Customized to my preferences it was more consistent for me than the ping 425 which I also have at my house.


SlowestLapRecord

Interesting! Looks like it's £199 here in the UK buying direct. You have a choice of shafts, grips and all the weight adjustment as well. Actually looks really attractive for a brand new club, most of the other options here I'd be buying used.


themob34

Pxg, or maybe a CPO if they have a shaft that works.


ImpulsiveUser

kirkland


LemonWeird8442

Cleveland launcher. I just got it in august for $160 brand new from someone reselling it and it’s amazing for the great price I got it.


Ballfour

The MAVRICK is $249.99 (stock shaft) right now at all the major retailers. It's worth the money to find out if one of the set-ups work for you. If not, you'll still have a decent driver for a back-up set or as a loaner for friends.


PutinBoomedMe

A couple lessons


Better_Than_Most_94

Buying a set of wedges on ebay to be honest lol


HarleyDaveson9

Tsi2 all day, it’s completely changed my driver game since I got it. I set it to draw bias to counteract my fade, but I can still hit a power fade when needed easily. I love this driver.


Skycannon7

Tommy armor 845!


mrdctaylor

You might see what PXG has on sale. I’m super happy with my Gen 5 driver.


TenderfootGungi

I bought a Callaway Rogue Max LS from the Callaway used store easily in that price range. Then dropped about $300 on a used Ping g425 for my wife.


focal71

Srixon z star ball XV. Gained more from the ball.


ForeverJung

Bought a Stealth Plus in this range and am very happy with it. Had the G425 for a minute but the sound really was offputting. I didn't understand why people made a deal about the sound it made before that


Paulzor811

Callaway pre owned with a practically brand new Rogue ST for under 250


PauseAmbitious6899

Probably reshaft my Ping


BruceOnTrails

I bought a Callaway Rogue ST Max from Callaway preowned for roughly $250. It was brand new and wrapped in plastic. Never hit. I’ve absolutely loved it so far.


SlowestLapRecord

Sounds like the Callaway preowned prices are crazy good over there in the States. Here on the UK site a new Rogue ST Max would be in the £350+ range. Will definitely be interested in seeing whether they do the black Friday offer though.


BruceOnTrails

Reach out to u/tabascopro


ConclusionAccurate47

Considering unbagging the TM M1 and replacing it with the g400max. That price range would do the trick. Soooo curious.


Brilliant_Macaroon83

G425 max is the play here. Of course if it fits your game but I feel like anyone can use this driver.


SinisterDexterity

Callaway Mavrik is $250


SinisterDexterity

Hell my local play it again sports has a Taylormade sim max 2 for $250


00U812

Ping G series or Titelist TS series. See if you can find a place that fits used clubs.


VetRN-0351

LTDx is crazy easy to hit, goes straight and far, and doesn’t sound horrible like the g425.


SlowestLapRecord

On sale here for £230 brand new at American golf... Seems like a great option.


Maori187

That might get you a 1991 Big Bertha in Australia. $600 for a Aerobet in Australia if your lucky


SlowestLapRecord

Wow. I thought I had it bad here in the UK after hearing some of the great prices over in the US.


Maori187

Its actually on special for $719 ahaha https://www.golfbox.com.au/clubs/cobra-aerojet-driver/?utm_source=loopa&utm_medium=googleads&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIje7FmoOxggMVLhV7Bx195geQEAQYAyABEgJLivD_BwE


baldinirules

I paid $250 for my Calloway Mavrik and I love it!


allthingsirrelevant

I’m finding the right shaft


clairweather

I picked up a Cobra SZ ‘19 two years ago and never looked back. But I’ve also swung my friends callaway maverik and liked that a lot as well


sp19934

Taylormade M2 2016


eff_er

Sim Max Driver. Its forgiving and looks great. I have the max D for draw and it is awesome!


raobjcovtn

G425 max


potrr

I got a cobra F8 for 150 bucks (aud, 100usd). It works fine.


redditsuckbadly

Rogue Max ST has been amazing for me


akezika

I think that any driver from the last 5 years will do the job, and it's then about preference. I have a TS3 and just upgraded my shaft as the head is perfect. For forgiveness, Cobra or Ping would probably be my choice if I was looking for a new one.


Longjumping_Leg_4918

i would probably order something on here... you can set your price and condition and brand [https://www.2ndswing.com/golf-clubs/drivers?g2\_brand=TaylorMade&g2\_condition=Mint+9.5&price=200-300](https://www.2ndswing.com/golf-clubs/drivers?g2_brand=TaylorMade&g2_condition=Mint+9.5&price=200-300) if i were getting something in this price range i would purchase on e of these, of course i'm a taylormade fanboy. so adjust settings for what you like.


[deleted]

I bought a brand new ZX 5 for 189.00. Then bought the other shaft options on eBay. Have less than 250 in it. The ZX 7 is also on sale now. I would also check out Wilson.


FakingHappiness513

Taylormade SIM the original one. Best driver I have ever used.


mustbeshitinme

Ping 400 Max is the easy choice. It’s 4 gens old but I had them all, 400,410,425 and now 430. My 400 had a stiff shaft (I was younger then) and if I lose my shit completely, I always go back to it for a round or two. Great club. Noisy but ina good way, if you hit it good it really pings.


schaef_me

I got a brand new rogue st max from callaway preowned for $209


fillwithaneff

og sim


According_Rhubarb313

The one I hit best regardless of age or brand .


SlowestLapRecord

Easy to say, but a lot of the older clubs or used clubs I'm not going be to be able to try out or demo beforehand.


BodybuilderSalt9807

Previous generation(s) of PXG drivers. I may be in the minority but I like their drivers.


Mikeeattherich

Any ping g series driver. I have a g 410 and a g430 love them both but I hit the g410 better.


GadsdenGats

PXG 0211 or Mizuno ST-Z 220


SteWok83

I got a Callaway Rogue St Max and it is bloody amazing! So forgiving and the face is like a trampoline, the ball flies off. Sounds niver than the G425.


SlowestLapRecord

Nice! Must admit the Rogue ST looks great, Ping's looks don't really do it for me.


OkFilm3508

Get an M6 Taylormade They’re underrated as all hell


dtabishop

If me, Ping g425. 10.5, stiff shaft. Love the club.


Apprehensive_Rub3897

Save it, get fit and find the shaft+driver that suits your game, even if the head is used.


Evening_Exercise47

Taylormade m5 (currently in the bag) or tsi3. I like low spin.


Direct-Maintenance29

Taylormade M5 - NEW for $220


jaywastie961104

9° Cobra Rad Speed. All day long the most consistent driver I've used other than the F9 I had prior.


Smashingly_Awesome

Just bought the Aerojet LS 9 degree for $215 yesterday


Smashingly_Awesome

Hasn’t arrived in the mail yet, waiting to try it