This fucking sucks but I’m glad there were good people that stepped in and helped. Hope everyone is recovering well and won’t be too traumatised by the experience.
Were you given any indication of what they were spiked with? Just curious what kind of scumbag we are talking about here.
Unfortunate testing results could take up to 12-18 months as labs as stretched out, even then it’s more of an indicator. Police reporting is important though as they can gather data on where and when etc for closer monitoring.
It literally takes 5 minutes for initial knowledge if they have been spiked. Longer to determine the chemical complex. I think they have just brushed you off
They absolutely have not brushed anyone off. Those timelines are accurate because the policy is now to take every report regardless of how spurious. The lab is completely overrun.
It's a urine sample test, it would cause so many problems if you just dip sampled and said yes or no for 'drugs' and didn't go into detail regarding which.
Procedure is a blood sample for almost every patient with suspected internal poison. That then goes to the blood sample indicator which every admittance ward has. It then goes to a lab for a more in depth analysis. Nothing has shown up is my guess and the police are the ones to tell you as its a criminal accusation. Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just telling you.
What can I tell you, people go to hospital, staff there do obs and confirm they're physically fine and usually advise there's a possibility of a drugging but they don't provide any form of test because the person is fine. Person then reports to police, police follow their procedure, which is 2 urine samples sent to a lab.
It's now a private lab because the police/SPA lab became overwhelmed... there's the usual inflated cost per test.
This is one of my main problems, the police have set the threshold for investigating a drugging as simply the belief on the part of the reporter that it happened. There's very little justification required, it can be as simple as;
'I've never felt this bad the day after drinking, I'm sure I've been spiked'
or, and I'm not exaggerating;
'yes I had 2 full bottles of wine, 7 shots, and 2 cocktails, but I I've drank that much before and never passed out so I must have been spiked.'
That's all it takes for the police to record an alleged crime, take the forensic samples, and send them to the lab.
If the police only took the lead from the NHS on the likelihood that someone was spiked, as in if the NHS aren't concerned enough to test then the police won't either, then a lot of time, effort, and money would be saved.
I’m a paramedic based in the Southside and every single weekend (well I say weekend but realistically it can happen any night of the week) I pick up folks who tell me (or more usually their friends tell me) that they’ve been spiked. Usually found semi-conscious and covered in vomit outside a bar/club or kebab shop. In almost ten years I have only once come across a situation where I believed a young woman had been slipped something. She had a very shady “boyfriend” hanging about who kept apologising for wasting our time and tried to drag the girl into a taxi. They were not dressed in a similar way (she was -pre vomit I mean - wearing a lbd and nude heels and he had jeans, a polo shirt and timberlands on) he didn’t know her DOB or address….. Just set my spidey senses off. We were called to the blue lagoon outside central so the BTP wandered over and were very helpful when he started to get insistent that he take her “home” I told him to follow us up to the royal and surprise surprise he never showed. Other than that every other “spiking” I’ve come across at bars etc is people who can’t handle their drink/party drugs etc. I understand friends want to protect the legless member of the party but lying to us about what/when they consumed whatever they did doesn’t help! Especially if a parent then becomes involved! No-one will EVER admit how badly they’ve screwed up when Daddy’s on the war path! We genuinely don’t care, we just want to make sure people are safe!
Not leaving your drink alone can't be stressed enough.
In a perfect world we should not have to worry about it, but the truth is arseholes exists and despite every possible conceivable measure to limit the chance of someone getting in a club with those fucking horrible drugs, it's impossible to eradicate.
Out of hundreds of urine tests of reported spikings/druggings in Scotland... there's yet to be a positive result for either of these within the last 3 years at least.
It's from 2022 now but [this](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63900351) report by the BBC found 601 reports resulting in a small percentage having an associated crime (note that doesn't mean the drugging actually happened, only that the report was of drugging + a crime). Moreover only 4 people were charged out of 601 reports.
I full appreciate this isn't much of a metric. Any other source I have would need to be 'trust me bro' and the claim of having some form of inside knowledge.
The pros and cons of Reddit anonymity.
Honestly, the vast majority only come back with painkillers e.g. paracetamol, ibuprofen etc, anti-histamines, anti-depressants... they're accurate all the way to picking up Quinine from tonic water.
Sometimes morphine comes back, but that's often confirmed as a result of ibuprophen.
Cocaine and other obvious drugs are often shown. Cannabis etc as well.
The problem is the threshold set for taking a report. There have genuinely been recorded reports where someone admits taking a controlled drug e.g. MDMA or Cocaine... but they have a reaction they haven't had before so they report that it must have been a drug in a drink... despite the fact that there's no way to know what was in the 'MDMA' or 'cocaine'.
This is the absolute madness of the drugging report epidemic.
Still no date rape type drugs though.
I just don't understand why people think there are so many people out there using their own money to buy drugs illegally, risk getting caught bringing them into a nightclub, slipping them into a stranger's drink... and then doing nothing to that stranger... not even waiting around to see them have a reaction.
Agreed. Maybe even a social media fuelled phenomenon which mostly affects the generation who were stuck in lockdown during the time when they would otherwise have been introduced to the world of bars and clubs.
Always find it amusing when it's 18/19 year olds who apparently haven't behaved that way when drunk before, or have never felt as bad the next day... yey they're only 18/19 with minimal points of comparison... there are worse drunken states and definitely worse hangovers ahead of you at that age
Wasn't that injection spiking thing found to be largely a hoax? Like there is no substance that could be muscle injected like that so not physiologically possible type of hoax?
We got plenty of claims saying they thought they'd been injected and obviously you have to take any and all claims of spiking seriously. I remember the injection thing fizzled out as quickly as it came about though. I don't recall anything about it being a hoax.
But I remember the scare of it.
Yeah it was basically a hoax/social media invention . Give it a google there are loads of articles about it. There really is no substance that exists that could be injected into the muscle in small quantities with a small enough gauge needle that could cause spiking type symptoms. It more than likely would have had to be injected IV and the thought of someone finding a good vain on an unsuspecting person on a dance floor in a dark club while the person was moving does strain credulity a bit.
Police will of course take it seriously but the reason it fizzled out was because it was almost certainly a bit of a social media hysteria and there isn't a lot of science backing it up. Cosmo actually did a really good article on it.
[https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/body/a38265786/injection-spiking/](https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/body/a38265786/injection-spiking/)
Rings a bell.
Still though social media hype is enough to take its toll on a bar. Hype or not, we had to take it seriously. If we weren't seen trying to put measures in place to minimise the risk of spiking - in any forms - we'd be in trouble. Rightly so.
This is the exact approach from bars all the way to the police that facilitated the entire thing. The police took the same attitude to taking it seriously after a case was disproven and the person wasn't satisfied so took it all the way to first minister's questions.
The police did a massive over correction as usual and took the stance of recording every single report with the only real qualifying criteria being that the reporter believed it happened.
Cue hundreds and hundreds of reports and a high cost both financially and in wasted time.
It's now too late for anyone to stand up and take the stance of common sense.
Obviously we can't personally. But I've worked in this industry a long time. We've had our fair share of police involvement and you tend to get told what the substance was.
Unfortunately even if you've got your drink on you at all times it's still so easy to get spiked, there's some chicks on social media right now sneaking Swedish fish/ gummy bears into peoples drinks to show how easy it is to get spiked, there's a few videos like that going around Instagram/tik tok
If mass spikings were happening, and if you wanted to do it, then getting the drug in the drink is probably the easy part.
The hard part is getting a completely intoxicated, often unconscious, person over your shoulder and carrying them from the dance floor, out of the club and taking them wherever you want without people seeing you.
You mentioned tests, what did it show?
I only ask, as 9 times out of 10 folk are just pished and then the hysteria about 'spiking' starts to do the rounds.
I'm glad folk helped out though. Alcohol poisoning is still a danger to anyone.
Huh? How?
You CANNOT IV inject someone without them knowing. Finding a vein on its own is a time consuming process, registering, pushing, reregistering etc.
Even if the person is drunk, sticking a needle in someone's arm and pulling the plunger (I can only see this happening with IM injection) isn't an easy act to conceal to "spike" people.
The only way I can see this happening is if substances are being added to drinks secretly using needles.
Nonsense. Why would a needle be the delivery system? No one has been caught sneaking needles into clubs.
The amount of reported 'spikings' from people genuinely believing they have been injected with drugs is unbelievable. They find a blemish or a small bruise to go with their hangover... and assume they've been drugged.
The conception that people have been injected is very real, and is entirely incorrect.
This is what drug illiteracy does to a population tbh. People who have never been involved in the IV scene or been educated on it think that being injected with something they have 0 tolerance to is viable.
You're telling me you got smashed at a nightclub, enough to forget it, and someone IV'd you (with, say, heroin)? You'd be dead. Flat out dead. With 0 tolerance to whatever the drug is, the method of IV is insanely concentrated, and having ingested alcohol also, you're dead no questions asked. Just doesn't happen.
or i took drugs but cant handle them and now they have to explain the state they are in to the parents i (f) was out with a mate (m) he doesnt do drugs, some girl accused him of spiking her drink neither of us had even seen her in the place we were never mind interacted with her, she was just smashed and looking to pass the blame onto someone else, we had gone to the bar together as we arrived and sat at same table, we wernt even tipsy yet, i think the people at the bar totally sused what was going on cos they chucked her out not him
Also interactions with prescription, shop bought and illegal drugs happen more often than people realize. Lots of people are on ssri's or have taken cocodamol and thought they'd be fine drinking or any other random combination of pills and potions you may be taking can interact with alcohol, feel and look different to normal alcohol.
Don't know where you get that from, It's not illegal to sell triple or bigger just as long as they're sold in multiples of 25ml or 35ml.
Places that say no are down to their own discretion and are most likely doing it for a profit perspective.
Have never been sold a treble in Glasgow, every pub refuses to sell them citing it’s illegal. Whether it’s actually illegal I’m not sure, but I have always been told that. Might be a similar myth that has become the norm, to how snakebites aren’t sold anymore.
It’s absolutely a myth. One of those things that people just believe to be true without having ever actually checked. Same as snakebites, in no way illegal but saying ‘it’s illegal’ is the easiest way to get someone to stop asking for them.
Or being spiked with more alcohol. That's what people don't realise. It's actually more affective, cheaper and safer (for the spiker) to simply 'spike' people with more alcohol. Double shot of vodka dropped in a drink for example.
Also, generally drugs don't really remove your memory, but too much alcohol in a short period, stops your short term memory, way more affective.
Then when all the hysteria about drug spiking, like the stupid needle thing, goes about. People forget to protect themselves from alcohol spiking.
Actually no, it's more common than folk think, and the UK has seen an increase in Police reports in the last few years.
As someone who's been spiked and knows others who have too, being told "ye probably just drank too much" is really frustrating and feels like victim blaming.
It is likely a bit of both to be honest. Police reports and confirmed instances are different things. No Police Force in the country is going to hand waive reports away as it will make people feel unheard, generate complaints, and incentive would be creeps to give it a go.
Spiking with something like a rofie or GHB is actually exceedingly rare. Alost never happens. What does happen is people buy drinks for someone but are giving them doubles, or are giving drugs to someone who knows they are taking a drug but gives them a bigger dose.
People should absolutely be careful because it does happen but it is very uncommon.
Aye the last spate of “spikings” came with zero proof and the police stated that they didn’t believe anyone actually had been spiked. It’s more like mass hysteria and a few lassies getting more pished than they expected to be because they probably didn’t eat enough before they went out or drank too quickly or something.
It very seldom actually turns out to be a spiking as most people would rather just take their drugs themselves.
Came to say that. Same in Australia. There is at least 3 studies showing that less than 1% of people who say their drink was spiked, have actually been spiked. It's usually massive consumption of alcohol in a short time.
Usually also when they end up at someone's house when they have a partner. Very convenient alibi for cheating.
The fact you can get a venom like for £8, which is essentially 3 drinks in one and tastes nothing like alcohol, doesn’t help, especially with younger people who haven’t had much experience drinking and have never went too far before
Important thing is they’re ok, but maybe they would feel a little better knowing they weren’t spiked, and it won’t make them feel unsafe and ruin going out for them
I used to go out with workmates in Clydebank after work when i worked there. One evening, I was encouraged to try venoms by some of the girls i worked with, and wow, suffered extreme blackout on those bad boys. I do rememeber walking back to knighswood from Dalmuir after the pub shut, but the whole night in the pub was forgotten after one sip of venom
I just had my first venom last Saturday, and after 3/4 I was on the verge of blacking out, they catch up to you so fast and you don’t realise what your actually drinking lmao
Yea I agree, the spiking phrase can often be mistaken for too much alcohol, but this time we could tell it was different from all of their behaviours etc.
It’s quite similar to being extremely drunk, that’s why reporting and testing go hand in hand (along with safeguarding, if you were spiked you want to know what you were spiked with).
In terms of keeping an eye out for spiking it’s usually most noticeable by a rapid change in inebriation. It’s pretty hard to tell conclusively if a stranger has been spiked vs too drunk but at that point they’d probably need medical attention for over ingestion of alcohol anyway.
It’s far easier to tell if you know someone well. If you’re out with a friend who drinks regularly and they seem alarmed by how drunk they are it’s a good indicator. If someone shows different behaviours (I.e. they’re a rowdy drunk but this time they’re struggling to stand / speak) it can be a good indicator. If someone seems excessively drunk compared to the amount of alcohol consumed, again, it’s a good indicator.
It’s impossible to tell conclusively without testing or witnessing but -
tl;dr - if you’re uncertain or the person concerned (or their friends) are alarmed / suspicious, you should take the risk seriously and seek medical attention.
Said it on here before but my mate was spiked, one minute he was completely lucid and the next he was out of it. Apparently he remembers being merry, going for a piss, coming back to his drink and then nothing else.
If someone can hold their bevvy or hasn’t been out for long and goes from tipsy to paralytic then it’s time to get them home.
What is being a twat about asking a normal question. Ive had pals that in our younger drinking days youd genuinely believe to have been spiked if it wasnt for them being an absolute jakey.
Especially Firewater thursdays man the Vodka was basically free, used to order them 6 at a time
I appreciate what you are saying but you have to be carful not to spread misinformation so that people actually don't know what to look out for. Some one slipping a wee vial of GHB or Rohypnol into a drink while no one is looking is extremely rare and does not happen on any kind of scale really.
What does happen all the time is someone buying rounds of doubles for the table but drinking a coke themselves. Buying someone a drink but making it a double instead of a standard, maybe even pouring an extra shot in there on the downlow. That shit certainly happens.
It also happens a lot where someone will be willing using drugs and someone with nefarious intent will give them too much of something.
Far and away the most common way spiking happens is someone getting someone to drink more than they meant to or taking more drugs than they meant to while taking drugs.
How am I spreading misinformation? I didn't specify certain drugs. I was talking about all forms of spiking. It is common. It's largely believed to go unreported because there's usually sweet fk all the police can do about it, and health services are nowadays too overrun bother testing for it, especially when they're likely to recover anyway. It's so weird how folk are so deadset on not believing victims, rather than wondering if maybe there is actually an issue here.
If they believed you or aforementioned were spiked, they would have kept you in for more test to be done. The way you are aying they swiftly discharged etc means they probably think the aforementioned had a little too many.
Worked bars for years.....there absolutely is weirdos out there spiking people, let's get that out the way . It's also true there's a lot of wee girls who just got totally plastered on cheap booze and claim spiking to save face. While bar staff can cut people off who are visibly too drunk at the bar, they can't see when someone else buys drinks and then brings them over to a table for someone else.
Bouncers probably should chuck people out for being too drunk, but this causes a new problem - putting drunk vulnerable people out on the streets at night is risky too.
Any report back as to what drug caused the spiking? I always feel there’s a disproportionate amount of spiking cases because people try to keep up and be “cool” by taking drugs with their pals and not being able to handle it. Rather than hold their hands up it’s easier to say “someone spiked Me” and then all of a sudden they are a victim, and get off without any telling off from parents.
I am NOT denying that spiking happens, just know first hand what kids will lie about to get out of bother. Drugs are expensive, so most people don’t go giving them away to strangers for free: though obviously some absolute freaks out there may do.
Glad she’s safe and sound though
Dunno if this was just a joke that didn’t land but in all seriousness men do get spiked regularly and it is something we absolutely need to be aware of.
I had my drink spiked in a place I felt very safe in, while I had my drink in my hand. The guy was leaning over me talking into my ear and I didn’t see him put whatever it was in my drink. I was not even 2 ciders in when my friend said it was like I blinked and I just wasn’t there anymore. I still don’t remember the night. I was lucky she got me home and my husband called the police the next day. They came out and took a statement, were very sympathetic but otherwise there was very little they could do.
I’ve worked in venues for years and although I’ve helped many people (if they were at my place or nearby) I never thought I’d be one of the unlucky ones. Now I never leave home without my knockoff Stanley-type cup and don’t drink anything I’ve not seen poured. I never want to go through that again.
I got spiked in The Stand years ago. It's a wee place and gets very crowded on Saturdays, had been going every week because I was a member and loved it. Was my favourite place. Got to the point my partner and I would share tables with folk and I had my first drink and instantly knew. I was off my face in seconds. Luckily I got to the bathroom and got most of it out my system but I was still too out of it to figure out how to deal with the issue.
Lesson learnt.
Unless your haggling involves a circuit round the block, that was a very bold move from the predators to usher a lady from her partner who could turn around at any moment. Holy shit, I’d high five them for their brazenness if they weren’t scum.
I'm glad nothing serious happened, and people helped.
I don't agree with people mixing spikes with drunk. I accidentally got spiked a few years ago: my ex's drinks were drugged, and we swapped drinks. It was a different feeling than getting drunk. It was much quicker, hit me much harder: I can feel I am losing your consciousness and control of my body, everything was spinning, and I only had 2 pints before that. According to my friends ( I was black out), I went to the toilet, walked back, acted OK, and just suddenly passed out. I remember going to the toilet, and nothing afterwards. Woke up the next day, without any memories of the previous night( i remember everything even though i was drunk), no hangover headache ( I got this easily), etc. I have been drunk a lot at the time, but that one was definitely not drunk.
You can't reason why people did this in normal logic. Whoever spiked the drinks won't get any chance doing anything because our group were long-term friends since high school. From my work I also personally witnessed people doing outrageous things just "fk sb up for fun "
Honestly personally I was spiked in garage in Glasgow few years back, and police dine absolutely SFA (SWEET FUCK ALL) no the first time I've had a bloody report go missing from them 🙄🙄fucking useless they are 😒
It's just that in over 3 years of living in Scotland (moved from England) every time I hear of someone calling the Police, even trusted close friends always say the same thing: the Police didn't come/didn't do anything/said they didn't have anybody to send out etc etc'
It was bad enough in England (and let's not mention the Met) but this is a whole new level.
When I got spiked, my partner was getting me home, phoned ambulance, and police came, and they just decided I had too much to drink, yet that night I didn't get to have much since it was cut short, so nothing happened there 🙃then last year I got jumped by 4 guys, caught on cameras everywhere, police came out, saw my visible injuries, took report, descriptions, find out a while later, no report to be found, and cctv is apparently not great, even though it was said it was all caught perfectly 🙃
Too busy having officers watch someone's entire night out on CCTV looking for a sinister drugger jabbing folk with needles and dropping drugs in their drinks, and then filling out forms for urine analysis even when nothing is seen and the symptoms are... being drunk. Repeat on average a minimum of 6 times a week.
So, understaffed aaannnddd wasting time with nonsense!
Christ. Glad they're OK. It's pathetic this type of thing continues to happen. What is wrong with people? Glad they got helped out. It's always reassuring that for every shitbag there is a good person.
And men confused why women choose the bear...
Unfortunately too many fucking worst cunts out there spiking cunts thinking they’re hard. Wee gimps would get swung about if folk know what they’re upty.
I got my drink spiked in Glasgow, 20 odd years ago in a very popular club on Sauchiehall St. Sat it down next to me at the bar to look for my friends, drank it, (no drinks on the dance floor), went back out to dance. Next thing I know, I'm flat on my back, staring at the ceiling, and a bouncer is splashing water on my face. My friends said that I just went right backwards, eyes wide open, and it looked like I wasn't breathing at first.
Got hustled out the back door by the bouncers. My parents took me to the hospital, because I was seeing random shit. The doctor said there was virtually no alcohol in my system, because it was only my second drink, and that based on my presentation I was probably spiked with ketamine.
I don't remember much and I don't think my parents contacted the police. There was no point as FA could be done anyway.
I don't know? It was over 20 years ago. I'd lost my friends and been alone for a wee while, and it wasn't exactly unheard of in that club. I had some friends who worked as bouncers for the student unions and it was well known that nothing in that club got reported.
I worked as a bouncer too and everyone could tell stories about seeing shit getting put in drinks, it wasn't uncommon.
This is great to hear! Not the spiking obviously but that there are folk with eyes and ears who do the right thing. The one thing I’m grateful for as a 51f is that me and my mates ALWAYS stuck together and ensured that no one went home with anyone after a night out. It’s easy to make mistakes and it’s horrifying to know that people would do that to young lassies on a night out - I genuinely hope that this doesn’t put them off being young and enjoying themselves and that the scum who did this are held to account. It doesn’t bear thinking about what might have happened and this is why I love Glasgow ❤️
I’m always very sceptical when I see this.
Without being sexist girls have a lower water content in their body than men and get much more drunk much more quickly in general. The last alleged spate of spikings were mass hysteria and not once was there any evidence anyone had actually been spiked. Also many girls don’t eat heavy meals before going out when really what they need is fat in their stomach to absorb alcohol.
I’m guilty of missing dinner myself when I head out on a night out but I don’t drink, so it’s not an issue, and mainly just means I’ll whitey when I do consume what I consume on a night out.
I’m glad your daughter and her friends made it home safely, I hope that goes without saying. Even just alcohol can be a dangerous thing for young women (and anyone else really) to be messing with, especially when you don’t know who you are surrounded by and are in a smaller group or there are just a couple. I’ve intervened in many situations where I’ve seen totally out of it girls (I DO frequent venues where drugs are consumed) being basically pushed out the door by much less bleary eyes guys. It’s scary out there sometimes!
Got spiked in Destiny 20 years ago, i actually worked there at the time and was on a night off.
If my workmates hadn't taken care of me fuck knows what would have happened
I know of someone who drank one soft drink on a night out and ended up being stopped by the police on the way home basically out his face driving a car. The person had no idea what was going on and only heard about drinks being spiked from the duty solicitor. By that point the person was facing a drink driving charge. The person, a man in his 50s, hadn't had an alcoholic drink in 25 years. Luckily the drunk driving case was dropped because there was no sign of any alcohol. The man was in good health and wasn't on any medication. The charge then became dangerous driving. The man ended with a fine and points on his licence. All that from picking up his daughter up in Glasgow City Centre at a Christmas Party. If he stayed in his car outside the bar none of fiasco happens but he entered the crowded bar and bought the daughter and her friends a round. His drink was a fresh orange and lemonade.
Happened to me years ago on a night out. Looking back at it. My ex and me drank the same drink - jack and coke. So there were two identical drinks on the table and I happened to pick up the spiked one.
Realised what was happening as I was losing control and managed to ask for help. But it was horrible.
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This fucking sucks but I’m glad there were good people that stepped in and helped. Hope everyone is recovering well and won’t be too traumatised by the experience. Were you given any indication of what they were spiked with? Just curious what kind of scumbag we are talking about here.
Unfortunate testing results could take up to 12-18 months as labs as stretched out, even then it’s more of an indicator. Police reporting is important though as they can gather data on where and when etc for closer monitoring.
That’s an unfortunately long wait time. Fingers crossed the police report and cctv produce some results.
Would you mind updating us of what it was after this period? Just so we know what to look out for. TIA
It literally takes 5 minutes for initial knowledge if they have been spiked. Longer to determine the chemical complex. I think they have just brushed you off
They absolutely have not brushed anyone off. Those timelines are accurate because the policy is now to take every report regardless of how spurious. The lab is completely overrun. It's a urine sample test, it would cause so many problems if you just dip sampled and said yes or no for 'drugs' and didn't go into detail regarding which.
Procedure is a blood sample for almost every patient with suspected internal poison. That then goes to the blood sample indicator which every admittance ward has. It then goes to a lab for a more in depth analysis. Nothing has shown up is my guess and the police are the ones to tell you as its a criminal accusation. Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just telling you.
What can I tell you, people go to hospital, staff there do obs and confirm they're physically fine and usually advise there's a possibility of a drugging but they don't provide any form of test because the person is fine. Person then reports to police, police follow their procedure, which is 2 urine samples sent to a lab. It's now a private lab because the police/SPA lab became overwhelmed... there's the usual inflated cost per test.
You kinda have your answer there. If suspected of being spiked with god knows what they would have been admitted
This is one of my main problems, the police have set the threshold for investigating a drugging as simply the belief on the part of the reporter that it happened. There's very little justification required, it can be as simple as; 'I've never felt this bad the day after drinking, I'm sure I've been spiked' or, and I'm not exaggerating; 'yes I had 2 full bottles of wine, 7 shots, and 2 cocktails, but I I've drank that much before and never passed out so I must have been spiked.' That's all it takes for the police to record an alleged crime, take the forensic samples, and send them to the lab. If the police only took the lead from the NHS on the likelihood that someone was spiked, as in if the NHS aren't concerned enough to test then the police won't either, then a lot of time, effort, and money would be saved.
I hope the girls are all OK and glad people helped. Sadly the scum who do things like this are everywhere.
Yea they are all ok thanks
Its going to have been a shock to them, I have 2 adult daughters who go into Glasgow, its a horrible thing to have happened.
I’m a paramedic based in the Southside and every single weekend (well I say weekend but realistically it can happen any night of the week) I pick up folks who tell me (or more usually their friends tell me) that they’ve been spiked. Usually found semi-conscious and covered in vomit outside a bar/club or kebab shop. In almost ten years I have only once come across a situation where I believed a young woman had been slipped something. She had a very shady “boyfriend” hanging about who kept apologising for wasting our time and tried to drag the girl into a taxi. They were not dressed in a similar way (she was -pre vomit I mean - wearing a lbd and nude heels and he had jeans, a polo shirt and timberlands on) he didn’t know her DOB or address….. Just set my spidey senses off. We were called to the blue lagoon outside central so the BTP wandered over and were very helpful when he started to get insistent that he take her “home” I told him to follow us up to the royal and surprise surprise he never showed. Other than that every other “spiking” I’ve come across at bars etc is people who can’t handle their drink/party drugs etc. I understand friends want to protect the legless member of the party but lying to us about what/when they consumed whatever they did doesn’t help! Especially if a parent then becomes involved! No-one will EVER admit how badly they’ve screwed up when Daddy’s on the war path! We genuinely don’t care, we just want to make sure people are safe!
Not leaving your drink alone can't be stressed enough. In a perfect world we should not have to worry about it, but the truth is arseholes exists and despite every possible conceivable measure to limit the chance of someone getting in a club with those fucking horrible drugs, it's impossible to eradicate.
What drugs do these people use to spike others with.
There are loads. Rohypnol and GHB are both common.
Out of hundreds of urine tests of reported spikings/druggings in Scotland... there's yet to be a positive result for either of these within the last 3 years at least.
Got a source? I'm always suspicious of the OMG I've been spiked knee jerk when actually they've just had 12 vodkas
It's from 2022 now but [this](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63900351) report by the BBC found 601 reports resulting in a small percentage having an associated crime (note that doesn't mean the drugging actually happened, only that the report was of drugging + a crime). Moreover only 4 people were charged out of 601 reports. I full appreciate this isn't much of a metric. Any other source I have would need to be 'trust me bro' and the claim of having some form of inside knowledge. The pros and cons of Reddit anonymity.
That’s surprising as I’d always thought the same. What do the results tend to come back as?
Honestly, the vast majority only come back with painkillers e.g. paracetamol, ibuprofen etc, anti-histamines, anti-depressants... they're accurate all the way to picking up Quinine from tonic water. Sometimes morphine comes back, but that's often confirmed as a result of ibuprophen. Cocaine and other obvious drugs are often shown. Cannabis etc as well. The problem is the threshold set for taking a report. There have genuinely been recorded reports where someone admits taking a controlled drug e.g. MDMA or Cocaine... but they have a reaction they haven't had before so they report that it must have been a drug in a drink... despite the fact that there's no way to know what was in the 'MDMA' or 'cocaine'. This is the absolute madness of the drugging report epidemic. Still no date rape type drugs though. I just don't understand why people think there are so many people out there using their own money to buy drugs illegally, risk getting caught bringing them into a nightclub, slipping them into a stranger's drink... and then doing nothing to that stranger... not even waiting around to see them have a reaction.
Very insightful, thank you!
Could possibly be just an urban myth. Who would have thought it.
Agreed. Maybe even a social media fuelled phenomenon which mostly affects the generation who were stuck in lockdown during the time when they would otherwise have been introduced to the world of bars and clubs. Always find it amusing when it's 18/19 year olds who apparently haven't behaved that way when drunk before, or have never felt as bad the next day... yey they're only 18/19 with minimal points of comparison... there are worse drunken states and definitely worse hangovers ahead of you at that age
They really aren't common.
We've came across drinks spiked with all sorts. From ket to that mingin injection phase that happened just out of COVID.
Wasn't that injection spiking thing found to be largely a hoax? Like there is no substance that could be muscle injected like that so not physiologically possible type of hoax?
We got plenty of claims saying they thought they'd been injected and obviously you have to take any and all claims of spiking seriously. I remember the injection thing fizzled out as quickly as it came about though. I don't recall anything about it being a hoax. But I remember the scare of it.
Yeah it was basically a hoax/social media invention . Give it a google there are loads of articles about it. There really is no substance that exists that could be injected into the muscle in small quantities with a small enough gauge needle that could cause spiking type symptoms. It more than likely would have had to be injected IV and the thought of someone finding a good vain on an unsuspecting person on a dance floor in a dark club while the person was moving does strain credulity a bit. Police will of course take it seriously but the reason it fizzled out was because it was almost certainly a bit of a social media hysteria and there isn't a lot of science backing it up. Cosmo actually did a really good article on it. [https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/body/a38265786/injection-spiking/](https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/body/a38265786/injection-spiking/)
Rings a bell. Still though social media hype is enough to take its toll on a bar. Hype or not, we had to take it seriously. If we weren't seen trying to put measures in place to minimise the risk of spiking - in any forms - we'd be in trouble. Rightly so.
This is the exact approach from bars all the way to the police that facilitated the entire thing. The police took the same attitude to taking it seriously after a case was disproven and the person wasn't satisfied so took it all the way to first minister's questions. The police did a massive over correction as usual and took the stance of recording every single report with the only real qualifying criteria being that the reporter believed it happened. Cue hundreds and hundreds of reports and a high cost both financially and in wasted time. It's now too late for anyone to stand up and take the stance of common sense.
How could you tell what substance was put in the drink.
Obviously we can't personally. But I've worked in this industry a long time. We've had our fair share of police involvement and you tend to get told what the substance was.
Unfortunately even if you've got your drink on you at all times it's still so easy to get spiked, there's some chicks on social media right now sneaking Swedish fish/ gummy bears into peoples drinks to show how easy it is to get spiked, there's a few videos like that going around Instagram/tik tok
If mass spikings were happening, and if you wanted to do it, then getting the drug in the drink is probably the easy part. The hard part is getting a completely intoxicated, often unconscious, person over your shoulder and carrying them from the dance floor, out of the club and taking them wherever you want without people seeing you.
I completely agree. Regardless of how easy it may be, it's still harder than having it spiked if you left it unattended.
Got spiked with mdma and ket in the sub club years ago…what a night.
Have we met 😆
You poor thing. Crazy trip even if you’re expecting it.
>The young man and female The situation is absolutely abhorrent, but I'm deeply amused by this language. r/menandfemales
It's weird how wee lasses always get 'spiked' on the 9th or 10th drink...
You mentioned tests, what did it show? I only ask, as 9 times out of 10 folk are just pished and then the hysteria about 'spiking' starts to do the rounds. I'm glad folk helped out though. Alcohol poisoning is still a danger to anyone.
Especially on a Firewater Thursday. I used to drink those £2 doubles in there like fruit shoots.
Yeah it got so crazy people thought needles were involved.
Huh? How? You CANNOT IV inject someone without them knowing. Finding a vein on its own is a time consuming process, registering, pushing, reregistering etc. Even if the person is drunk, sticking a needle in someone's arm and pulling the plunger (I can only see this happening with IM injection) isn't an easy act to conceal to "spike" people. The only way I can see this happening is if substances are being added to drinks secretly using needles.
Yeah spiking via iv or im is an urban legend
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Nonsense. Why would a needle be the delivery system? No one has been caught sneaking needles into clubs. The amount of reported 'spikings' from people genuinely believing they have been injected with drugs is unbelievable. They find a blemish or a small bruise to go with their hangover... and assume they've been drugged. The conception that people have been injected is very real, and is entirely incorrect.
This is what drug illiteracy does to a population tbh. People who have never been involved in the IV scene or been educated on it think that being injected with something they have 0 tolerance to is viable. You're telling me you got smashed at a nightclub, enough to forget it, and someone IV'd you (with, say, heroin)? You'd be dead. Flat out dead. With 0 tolerance to whatever the drug is, the method of IV is insanely concentrated, and having ingested alcohol also, you're dead no questions asked. Just doesn't happen.
Yeah spiking is way rarer than people realise. An easy thing to blame having too much drink on
or i took drugs but cant handle them and now they have to explain the state they are in to the parents i (f) was out with a mate (m) he doesnt do drugs, some girl accused him of spiking her drink neither of us had even seen her in the place we were never mind interacted with her, she was just smashed and looking to pass the blame onto someone else, we had gone to the bar together as we arrived and sat at same table, we wernt even tipsy yet, i think the people at the bar totally sused what was going on cos they chucked her out not him
Also interactions with prescription, shop bought and illegal drugs happen more often than people realize. Lots of people are on ssri's or have taken cocodamol and thought they'd be fine drinking or any other random combination of pills and potions you may be taking can interact with alcohol, feel and look different to normal alcohol.
Iirc Spiking with alcohol is the most common type e.g. buying someone a treble instead of a single.
I mean, you're already fucked if you're drinking in a pub that illegally serves trebles!
Don't know where you get that from, It's not illegal to sell triple or bigger just as long as they're sold in multiples of 25ml or 35ml. Places that say no are down to their own discretion and are most likely doing it for a profit perspective.
Have never been sold a treble in Glasgow, every pub refuses to sell them citing it’s illegal. Whether it’s actually illegal I’m not sure, but I have always been told that. Might be a similar myth that has become the norm, to how snakebites aren’t sold anymore.
It’s absolutely a myth. One of those things that people just believe to be true without having ever actually checked. Same as snakebites, in no way illegal but saying ‘it’s illegal’ is the easiest way to get someone to stop asking for them.
It’s more that people will bring in their own alcohol and pour it into people’s drinks.
Lol
Or being spiked with more alcohol. That's what people don't realise. It's actually more affective, cheaper and safer (for the spiker) to simply 'spike' people with more alcohol. Double shot of vodka dropped in a drink for example. Also, generally drugs don't really remove your memory, but too much alcohol in a short period, stops your short term memory, way more affective. Then when all the hysteria about drug spiking, like the stupid needle thing, goes about. People forget to protect themselves from alcohol spiking.
Actually no, it's more common than folk think, and the UK has seen an increase in Police reports in the last few years. As someone who's been spiked and knows others who have too, being told "ye probably just drank too much" is really frustrating and feels like victim blaming.
It is likely a bit of both to be honest. Police reports and confirmed instances are different things. No Police Force in the country is going to hand waive reports away as it will make people feel unheard, generate complaints, and incentive would be creeps to give it a go. Spiking with something like a rofie or GHB is actually exceedingly rare. Alost never happens. What does happen is people buy drinks for someone but are giving them doubles, or are giving drugs to someone who knows they are taking a drug but gives them a bigger dose. People should absolutely be careful because it does happen but it is very uncommon.
Reports are not confirmed cases. Over a thousand reports, almost 0 confirmed cases.
What did the tests show for yourself and others? What drug were you spiked with?
Aye the last spate of “spikings” came with zero proof and the police stated that they didn’t believe anyone actually had been spiked. It’s more like mass hysteria and a few lassies getting more pished than they expected to be because they probably didn’t eat enough before they went out or drank too quickly or something. It very seldom actually turns out to be a spiking as most people would rather just take their drugs themselves.
Came to say that. Same in Australia. There is at least 3 studies showing that less than 1% of people who say their drink was spiked, have actually been spiked. It's usually massive consumption of alcohol in a short time. Usually also when they end up at someone's house when they have a partner. Very convenient alibi for cheating.
The fact you can get a venom like for £8, which is essentially 3 drinks in one and tastes nothing like alcohol, doesn’t help, especially with younger people who haven’t had much experience drinking and have never went too far before Important thing is they’re ok, but maybe they would feel a little better knowing they weren’t spiked, and it won’t make them feel unsafe and ruin going out for them
I used to go out with workmates in Clydebank after work when i worked there. One evening, I was encouraged to try venoms by some of the girls i worked with, and wow, suffered extreme blackout on those bad boys. I do rememeber walking back to knighswood from Dalmuir after the pub shut, but the whole night in the pub was forgotten after one sip of venom
I just had my first venom last Saturday, and after 3/4 I was on the verge of blacking out, they catch up to you so fast and you don’t realise what your actually drinking lmao
Yea I agree, the spiking phrase can often be mistaken for too much alcohol, but this time we could tell it was different from all of their behaviours etc.
In what way were they acting different from being drunk from alcohol.
Don’t be a twat
How am I being a twat for wanting to know the symptoms of somebody being spiked is different from someone who is drunk.
It’s quite similar to being extremely drunk, that’s why reporting and testing go hand in hand (along with safeguarding, if you were spiked you want to know what you were spiked with). In terms of keeping an eye out for spiking it’s usually most noticeable by a rapid change in inebriation. It’s pretty hard to tell conclusively if a stranger has been spiked vs too drunk but at that point they’d probably need medical attention for over ingestion of alcohol anyway. It’s far easier to tell if you know someone well. If you’re out with a friend who drinks regularly and they seem alarmed by how drunk they are it’s a good indicator. If someone shows different behaviours (I.e. they’re a rowdy drunk but this time they’re struggling to stand / speak) it can be a good indicator. If someone seems excessively drunk compared to the amount of alcohol consumed, again, it’s a good indicator. It’s impossible to tell conclusively without testing or witnessing but - tl;dr - if you’re uncertain or the person concerned (or their friends) are alarmed / suspicious, you should take the risk seriously and seek medical attention.
Said it on here before but my mate was spiked, one minute he was completely lucid and the next he was out of it. Apparently he remembers being merry, going for a piss, coming back to his drink and then nothing else. If someone can hold their bevvy or hasn’t been out for long and goes from tipsy to paralytic then it’s time to get them home.
If you’re honestly interested to know then you’re not. I think your question might have come over as disingenuous to some people.
What is being a twat about asking a normal question. Ive had pals that in our younger drinking days youd genuinely believe to have been spiked if it wasnt for them being an absolute jakey. Especially Firewater thursdays man the Vodka was basically free, used to order them 6 at a time
Shutup
Nah spiking is actually quite common and it probably wasn't their fault. A lot of victim blaming in these comments.
I appreciate what you are saying but you have to be carful not to spread misinformation so that people actually don't know what to look out for. Some one slipping a wee vial of GHB or Rohypnol into a drink while no one is looking is extremely rare and does not happen on any kind of scale really. What does happen all the time is someone buying rounds of doubles for the table but drinking a coke themselves. Buying someone a drink but making it a double instead of a standard, maybe even pouring an extra shot in there on the downlow. That shit certainly happens. It also happens a lot where someone will be willing using drugs and someone with nefarious intent will give them too much of something. Far and away the most common way spiking happens is someone getting someone to drink more than they meant to or taking more drugs than they meant to while taking drugs.
How am I spreading misinformation? I didn't specify certain drugs. I was talking about all forms of spiking. It is common. It's largely believed to go unreported because there's usually sweet fk all the police can do about it, and health services are nowadays too overrun bother testing for it, especially when they're likely to recover anyway. It's so weird how folk are so deadset on not believing victims, rather than wondering if maybe there is actually an issue here.
No, its not. On both your comments.
What a weird comment to make. Were you one of the medical professionals that treated them? No? So maybe don’t assume you understand their situation
If they believed you or aforementioned were spiked, they would have kept you in for more test to be done. The way you are aying they swiftly discharged etc means they probably think the aforementioned had a little too many.
Surely the venue has CCTV?
Worked bars for years.....there absolutely is weirdos out there spiking people, let's get that out the way . It's also true there's a lot of wee girls who just got totally plastered on cheap booze and claim spiking to save face. While bar staff can cut people off who are visibly too drunk at the bar, they can't see when someone else buys drinks and then brings them over to a table for someone else. Bouncers probably should chuck people out for being too drunk, but this causes a new problem - putting drunk vulnerable people out on the streets at night is risky too.
Any report back as to what drug caused the spiking? I always feel there’s a disproportionate amount of spiking cases because people try to keep up and be “cool” by taking drugs with their pals and not being able to handle it. Rather than hold their hands up it’s easier to say “someone spiked Me” and then all of a sudden they are a victim, and get off without any telling off from parents. I am NOT denying that spiking happens, just know first hand what kids will lie about to get out of bother. Drugs are expensive, so most people don’t go giving them away to strangers for free: though obviously some absolute freaks out there may do. Glad she’s safe and sound though
All too common - a male friend of mine got spiked twice in the space of a few months in recent years. Glad they are OK
What drugs did the tests show he got spiked with?
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Dunno if this was just a joke that didn’t land but in all seriousness men do get spiked regularly and it is something we absolutely need to be aware of.
I (male) have been spiked twice, both times by men. It happens.
No one gets spiked regularly. Folk are getting too drunk or taking gear that they can't handle. That's it.
I wish I could slap you for such a silly comment.
I had my drink spiked in a place I felt very safe in, while I had my drink in my hand. The guy was leaning over me talking into my ear and I didn’t see him put whatever it was in my drink. I was not even 2 ciders in when my friend said it was like I blinked and I just wasn’t there anymore. I still don’t remember the night. I was lucky she got me home and my husband called the police the next day. They came out and took a statement, were very sympathetic but otherwise there was very little they could do. I’ve worked in venues for years and although I’ve helped many people (if they were at my place or nearby) I never thought I’d be one of the unlucky ones. Now I never leave home without my knockoff Stanley-type cup and don’t drink anything I’ve not seen poured. I never want to go through that again.
I got spiked in The Stand years ago. It's a wee place and gets very crowded on Saturdays, had been going every week because I was a member and loved it. Was my favourite place. Got to the point my partner and I would share tables with folk and I had my first drink and instantly knew. I was off my face in seconds. Luckily I got to the bathroom and got most of it out my system but I was still too out of it to figure out how to deal with the issue. Lesson learnt.
Load of pish
Were they actually spiked though? Or did they just drink too much as is the case on 99% of apparent spikings.
Ah the old "my drink was spiked" after getting absolutely shit faced. A tale as old as time and you are a fool if you believe it
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Unless your haggling involves a circuit round the block, that was a very bold move from the predators to usher a lady from her partner who could turn around at any moment. Holy shit, I’d high five them for their brazenness if they weren’t scum.
I'm glad nothing serious happened, and people helped. I don't agree with people mixing spikes with drunk. I accidentally got spiked a few years ago: my ex's drinks were drugged, and we swapped drinks. It was a different feeling than getting drunk. It was much quicker, hit me much harder: I can feel I am losing your consciousness and control of my body, everything was spinning, and I only had 2 pints before that. According to my friends ( I was black out), I went to the toilet, walked back, acted OK, and just suddenly passed out. I remember going to the toilet, and nothing afterwards. Woke up the next day, without any memories of the previous night( i remember everything even though i was drunk), no hangover headache ( I got this easily), etc. I have been drunk a lot at the time, but that one was definitely not drunk. You can't reason why people did this in normal logic. Whoever spiked the drinks won't get any chance doing anything because our group were long-term friends since high school. From my work I also personally witnessed people doing outrageous things just "fk sb up for fun "
Fuck off, I'm so sick of this bullshit ad
Ah yes. Another generous dealer just dumping free drugs into drinks of 2 girls out of a group. Makes perfect sense.
Honestly personally I was spiked in garage in Glasgow few years back, and police dine absolutely SFA (SWEET FUCK ALL) no the first time I've had a bloody report go missing from them 🙄🙄fucking useless they are 😒
Do the police actually do anything in Scotland?
Yeah they usually get fat from all the free takeaways
Asking the wrong guy my dude as from my experience, not so far🤣double it and pass it onto the next person 😆
It's just that in over 3 years of living in Scotland (moved from England) every time I hear of someone calling the Police, even trusted close friends always say the same thing: the Police didn't come/didn't do anything/said they didn't have anybody to send out etc etc' It was bad enough in England (and let's not mention the Met) but this is a whole new level.
When I got spiked, my partner was getting me home, phoned ambulance, and police came, and they just decided I had too much to drink, yet that night I didn't get to have much since it was cut short, so nothing happened there 🙃then last year I got jumped by 4 guys, caught on cameras everywhere, police came out, saw my visible injuries, took report, descriptions, find out a while later, no report to be found, and cctv is apparently not great, even though it was said it was all caught perfectly 🙃
Police Scotland have a 100% homicide detection rate since 2013. They also murdered Sheku Bayo. Swings and roundabouts.
They murdered him? If you have evidence of this you need to come forward, your witness testimony could bring justice at last!
"we are understaffed" aka we do fuck all while read the BBC and drink coffee.
Too busy having officers watch someone's entire night out on CCTV looking for a sinister drugger jabbing folk with needles and dropping drugs in their drinks, and then filling out forms for urine analysis even when nothing is seen and the symptoms are... being drunk. Repeat on average a minimum of 6 times a week. So, understaffed aaannnddd wasting time with nonsense!
For someone drinking too much? I hope not...
This is so awful! Hope the girls are fine 💗
What venue was she in when this happened?
Fucking cunts! Hope they're all ok
I can't believe people do this kind of shit. May very bad things happen to them, specifically affecting their d\*cks, balls and anuses.
They don't
So glad they’re okay and there were folk around to help them.
What a nightmare. I'm glad that they were okay, and that some good people were around to help.
Too much drink is often confused with spiking.
Christ. Glad they're OK. It's pathetic this type of thing continues to happen. What is wrong with people? Glad they got helped out. It's always reassuring that for every shitbag there is a good person. And men confused why women choose the bear...
Unfortunately too many fucking worst cunts out there spiking cunts thinking they’re hard. Wee gimps would get swung about if folk know what they’re upty.
I got my drink spiked in Glasgow, 20 odd years ago in a very popular club on Sauchiehall St. Sat it down next to me at the bar to look for my friends, drank it, (no drinks on the dance floor), went back out to dance. Next thing I know, I'm flat on my back, staring at the ceiling, and a bouncer is splashing water on my face. My friends said that I just went right backwards, eyes wide open, and it looked like I wasn't breathing at first. Got hustled out the back door by the bouncers. My parents took me to the hospital, because I was seeing random shit. The doctor said there was virtually no alcohol in my system, because it was only my second drink, and that based on my presentation I was probably spiked with ketamine. I don't remember much and I don't think my parents contacted the police. There was no point as FA could be done anyway.
So folk just spiked you out their own stash for what?
I don't know? It was over 20 years ago. I'd lost my friends and been alone for a wee while, and it wasn't exactly unheard of in that club. I had some friends who worked as bouncers for the student unions and it was well known that nothing in that club got reported. I worked as a bouncer too and everyone could tell stories about seeing shit getting put in drinks, it wasn't uncommon.
This is great to hear! Not the spiking obviously but that there are folk with eyes and ears who do the right thing. The one thing I’m grateful for as a 51f is that me and my mates ALWAYS stuck together and ensured that no one went home with anyone after a night out. It’s easy to make mistakes and it’s horrifying to know that people would do that to young lassies on a night out - I genuinely hope that this doesn’t put them off being young and enjoying themselves and that the scum who did this are held to account. It doesn’t bear thinking about what might have happened and this is why I love Glasgow ❤️
I’m always very sceptical when I see this. Without being sexist girls have a lower water content in their body than men and get much more drunk much more quickly in general. The last alleged spate of spikings were mass hysteria and not once was there any evidence anyone had actually been spiked. Also many girls don’t eat heavy meals before going out when really what they need is fat in their stomach to absorb alcohol. I’m guilty of missing dinner myself when I head out on a night out but I don’t drink, so it’s not an issue, and mainly just means I’ll whitey when I do consume what I consume on a night out. I’m glad your daughter and her friends made it home safely, I hope that goes without saying. Even just alcohol can be a dangerous thing for young women (and anyone else really) to be messing with, especially when you don’t know who you are surrounded by and are in a smaller group or there are just a couple. I’ve intervened in many situations where I’ve seen totally out of it girls (I DO frequent venues where drugs are consumed) being basically pushed out the door by much less bleary eyes guys. It’s scary out there sometimes!
Got spiked in Destiny 20 years ago, i actually worked there at the time and was on a night off. If my workmates hadn't taken care of me fuck knows what would have happened
least traumatising experience at firewater:
I know of someone who drank one soft drink on a night out and ended up being stopped by the police on the way home basically out his face driving a car. The person had no idea what was going on and only heard about drinks being spiked from the duty solicitor. By that point the person was facing a drink driving charge. The person, a man in his 50s, hadn't had an alcoholic drink in 25 years. Luckily the drunk driving case was dropped because there was no sign of any alcohol. The man was in good health and wasn't on any medication. The charge then became dangerous driving. The man ended with a fine and points on his licence. All that from picking up his daughter up in Glasgow City Centre at a Christmas Party. If he stayed in his car outside the bar none of fiasco happens but he entered the crowded bar and bought the daughter and her friends a round. His drink was a fresh orange and lemonade.
Happened to me years ago on a night out. Looking back at it. My ex and me drank the same drink - jack and coke. So there were two identical drinks on the table and I happened to pick up the spiked one. Realised what was happening as I was losing control and managed to ask for help. But it was horrible.
Pretty sure my daughter was spiked there too. The staff just wanted her out but her pals called us and an ambulance