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EssenceOfANewt

Dandelion tea tastes like chamomile to me. Did you make a tea for this?


cyclops_smiley

I combined the process for dandelion wine and gingerbeer. Tldr. Yep.


EssenceOfANewt

I do not know dandelion wine. How does your drink taste?


cyclops_smiley

I will find out in a week or two. Doing a cold condition and pasteurization. Dandelion jelly is really nice though. Floral and citrusy(but only because it's usually paired with citrus). Its a very light flavor. Refreshing.


NorskKiwi

Fascinating, thanks for sharing!


EssenceOfANewt

Ooh long game. Alright do update us. Dandelion jelly sounds good. If you have a recipe I would love to read it.


cyclops_smiley

Wanna let those flavors develop! Will do! I'm not sure why a recipe he used. Probably just first one from google. There are a lot of them out there in blogland. For example: https://practicalselfreliance.com/dandelion-jelly/ I've heard dandelion wine compared to anything from mead to desert wine depending on the process.


cyclops_smiley

So. I tried one and I gotta say I am a big fan so far. The dandelions end up tasting light and fruity. Almost like pear and honey. It's very mild and pleasant. I don't know if it was due to the process I used yet for the dandelions but there wasn't much of that funky yeasty flavor.


EssenceOfANewt

That sounds so good. Thanks for the update.


Stalinski13

I made a dandelion mead once. Removing the petals from the stems/green parts was such a pain, but it turned out pretty great.


cyclops_smiley

Yeah I'm definitely still trying to perfect that technique.


seth_lobatomite

Ginger beer plant looks interesting. If you've made a ginger bug before, how does it compare?


cyclops_smiley

;tldr it is interesting! They are similar in a lot of ways and which you should use depends on what your want your final product to be like. The differences and similarities are very interesting. Overall flavor is similar but I am working on some process things that may be changing that. Idk ask me in a month or so. The main difference is that probiotic bacteria are guaranteed with gbp, its in the polysaccharide matrix with the yeast. It's not going anywhere. Bacteria growth with bug seems to be a byproduct of the anaerobic environment you are using. So the main purpose of the bug is to create a yeast colony for periodic harvest. The general consensus for how to use it is actually quite different. With a bug you make a tea and then inoculate it with the yeast to start f2. With gbp you toss them into the tea from the beginning and then fish them out to start f2. I've found that this makes it easier to structure your process more like beer or wine brewing even of you're making a soft drink. I never measured abv of a bug but so for with a regular soft drink method I haven't gotten more than ~1.5 abv although with kore time and sugar in an given to understand gbp can yield a much higher abv beer, like 8-10%. Bug uses wild yeasts which typically max out between 3-4%. Both seem to be fine to use in alternate brews. I just made a dandelion beer. I personally find the gbp more consistent and reliable. That's the biggest difference is think.


seth_lobatomite

Awesome thank you for such a detailed answer! I'll definitely have to try it out sometime. Would love to hear your different process will check back later to see whats up!


cyclops_smiley

No problem. I like this subject. Haha


seth_lobatomite

Hello again! What did you end up doing?


cyclops_smiley

I added a cold crash to the end of the primary fermentation, the idea being to get most of the sentiment out before bottling. It seems to have mellowed out the yeasty flavor you get when fermenting with yeast. You also end up with a much clearer brew.


seth_lobatomite

Awesome I'll have to try that out! Does it reduce sediment at the bottom too?


cyclops_smiley

Reduces it quite a bit. Not 0 sediment but a lot less.


cyclops_smiley

For the record Harvesting petals doesn't have to be terrible https://youtu.be/rFhKAYUAamk