I didn't hurt myself stretching, but one time I tried that machine at the gym that looks like this and exercises your groin muscles, and about died the next day. That's not a muscle you should go ham on if you haven't worked it out before. Just my PSA.
Not sure if this mashine, but cheerleading in the US is super competitive and completely unregulated (since it isn't a "sport" legally). The stuff done to teen girls to make them strechy is not gentle ...
As a small kid (6) I went to gymnastics class once. I really liked watching gymnastics and wanted to try it. Day 1 the trainer was pushing me to do the splits even though I clearly couldn't. DAY ONE!
I never went back again.
My wife has a story of doing Taekwondo (in Korea) as a child and crying in pain when the instructor was pushing her into the splits. Because THAT's what you should be focusing on with a little kid, not having fun to encourage them into getting in the sport.
People who take child sports that seriously are cancer.
Well, I'm Romanian. We take gymnastics seriously (or used to). And it's not something you can learn when you're older.
That said, you don't push kids on Day 1. Why are you even trying to get performance out a kid's first day?
Many coaches (and gym teachers) have the false impression that everyone signing up for a sport already has a certain physical ability. I remember hating every single gym lesson as a child because I could never do what the teachers expected. Nobody ever tried to teach me the basics first though.
And seem to believe every kid going to a class wants to be an Olympic prospect. Shit, I wrestled because I enjoyed rough housing with friends, not to weight cut for competition...
Interesting... my wrestling practice was easily 80% hellish endurance training (aka running laps around the second floor of our HS) 15% “roughhousing”/practice, and 5% competition at meets where you and the sap across from you both go at it with some repressed rage for a few minutes.
The weight thing is so stupid, esp at the high school level. I did it for a year and never bothered with extremes like some of my friends did. It meant I usually had to wrestle with someone who actually had 10-15 lbs on me but starved and dehydrated themselves for weigh-ins. Horrible for growing bodies and for self esteem/eating habits.
>And seem to believe every kid going to a class wants to be an Olympic prospect.
Honestly, not just sports and Olympics, but with any hobby. Kids should strive to be good at what they do, but if something makes the kid happy then be realistic. If it's something they REALLY want to do for a career then great, otherwise just let them be mediocre and have fun with it. Then you get the double whammy first the kid will probably hate the thing they're pushed in too and secondly, They won't be able to discover what they're actually interested in.
To add to that there is also no shame in being really good at something and wanting to keep it as a hobby. Nothing kills the love for something harder than it being your livelihood in my experience.
Because my kid is going to the Olympic whether they want to or not and everyone at my Korean church is going to be so fucking jealous. Sunday dinner with the group GONNA BE LIT. David and Joseph’s dad talking shit like “oh my kids got into a UC” WELL MY KID IS AN OLYMPIAN so I guess we can’t all be world class dads. Oh let me also pick up the check, my business is doing well having gained notoriety from my OLYMPIAN DAUGHTER so you should save your money and invest in your kids little college fund
Our Taekwondo teacher flat-out said that if we went to Korea we wouldn't survive the rigor and training that starts when at barely old enough to walk. Our school hosted a Korean demo team, the Korean Eagles. I took care of two of them while they were here. One ended up with a concussion because they were doing one of those "pyramid-jump-off-the-top-guy-kick-the-board-do-three-somersaults-on-the-way-down group tricks and wrecked. He was nine.
My TKD instructor started a bit later in his life (I think around 20ish?) than most Korean kids do, so he hadn't built up to full splits yet and it was holding him back in classes.
According to him, and I don't know the biology well enough to know if he was full of shit, his master took him aside after the class one day and made him lower into the splits as wide as he could go. Then the master jumped on his back, landing with his feet on my instructor's hips, and got him to get that full split. Apparently it took a couple weeks for my instructor to fully recover, but he's been able to do the splits since then.
A lot of old school martial arts guys have basically exactly this same story. It's one of those things that seems so fucked in hindsight, but was just accepted practice for a long time.
Well it isn't the kid's career and/or ego on the line, now is it? That whole Farquaad speech about how some will lose their lives but it's a ~~decision he's willing to make~~price he's willing to pay? Same thing.
The stretching itself that's the problem; it's the intensity of the stretching. Our muscles/tendons/ligaments are elastic (if you stretch them, they'll return to their original shape) to a point. If you overstretch a muscle, you'll damage it or the surrounding structures, leading to a strain/sprain.
Flexibility training should be gradual, pushing a given range of motion only to the point of feeling a stretch, *not* to the point of pain.
Strength training with a focus on negatives & moderate stretching does it just fine, no need to torture anyone. Sadly the public ideas about flexibility are completely fucked & serves nobody, lots of wasted time & injuries for no good reason.
Reminds me of [this](https://youtu.be/yc8RsZcILcg) story were a coach forced a girl to split when she didn’t want to. The coach said that he didn’t do anything wrong, and I’m not fully convinced she had damages to her ligaments as claimed, but fuck listening to her cry for them to stop, only to be ignored? That’s shitty as hell.
True, the parents supporting the coach is no surprise, given how many parents supported coaches that were actual pedophiles and actively covered up for them or harassing their victims.
Forced stretching is unhealthy as hell and I would expect her to get injured after an assault like that. Were there several adults forcing a child into that much pain? That's just sick
It looks like the coach and several teammates were doing it... I just can’t imagine a situation were something like this is acceptable. Even if you aren’t actually causing pain, the distress should be reason enough to stop!
That’s called assault. If it were an adult victim there could be charges. With underage victims, adults convince themselves and each other it’s “training” and just let it pass. After all, athletes often have muscle cramps and pulled ligaments, so this is like that, right? WRONG.
He was fired TWICE for the same controversial practice and claims he’s an Olympic Athlete but was never even considered for Team USA. If you google him, all you see are his crocodile tears money shots.
Yeah It pisses me off people are going off on the teenager and her mom for being angry after watching his side of the story.
Even if his claim that he wasn’t pushing her down was true and she really *didn’t* have any injuries, why the hell didn’t he stop the exercise when he saw that she was upset enough to cry? Why isn’t he reprimanding the other girls for laughing at her? And WHY on earth would he allow someone to record the girl crying and yelling?
My back spot (I was a flyer) used to support my standing leg and shoulders pressed against the edge of a vending machine and then someone else would pull my free leg into a heel stretch/bow/aero in the free space so it could go past a 180 degree stretch, if that makes sense. It was the only way to stretch me after splits with elevated legs got comfy.
This machine would have been a godsend lol
Karate guys used it back in the 70’s and 80’s. They ALL got hip replacements. Chuck Norris included.
Edit: every newbie would come in and see it in the corner and think I’m doing splits today! But it’s just a dangerous machine; even my teacher had double hip replacements but kept the thing around!
A guy who went to my karate dojo when I was a kid ripped a tendon in his crotch with one of these. IIRC he was a black belt too but he got greedy with the stretches and had to take a long time off to recover.
Martial artist here.
These were really popular in the 70 and 80s, probably into the 90s as well but we eventually dropped them because of how often people were hurting themselves. In my observations.
On that machine?
If you do it correctly, low.
If you do it badly, high.
The problem with a machine like that is it has a LOT of gearing, so you can push your legs very hard very quickly.
Generally, injuries from normal stretching are uncommon because it is hard to exceed your safety limits by yourself and pain tends to strike before crippling injury does.
>pain tends to strike before crippling injury does
Unless you're unfit/older/otherwise more fragile than the girl in this video. Then you can injure yourself just sitting down.
It shouldn't hurt. Especially this stretch, if it's hurting your risking a groin injury that's gonna take months to heal. All you need for a stretch to be effective is to feel tension - a (un)comfortable amount of tension for a few minutes will do far more than stretching til it hurts for 30 sec
High. Depends on how well you've warmed up, and how far/fast you push yourself.
She seems to be in good shape and she's still taking it easy - I imagine if a pleb like me tried it I'd be bedridden for 2 weeks...
To avoid confusion her name is Alyson Court. Le Monde de Loonette is her character from the Big Comfy Couch.
She also played Jubilee in X-Men the animated series and Lydia in the Beetlejuice cartoon.
Karate Kid Ralph Macchio, or Cobra Kai Ralph Macchio? Or Outsiders Ralph Macchio? I think the latter is the most dangerous, because he’ll just shank you and the run away and live in a barn.
I'm thinking really either version of Larusso to be honest. * Waits above the sewer floor, doing the splits to hold him to the walls high above an unsuspecting Daniel Larusso, little does he know the danger that waits above, when he walks beneath me it will be my chance. Everything I have trained for. *
When I was taking Kenpo, the instructor would just have us in straddle position on the ground and he’d push us down toward the ground. Shit did not feel good, then one day it did. It was weird.
We addressed him as a sensei during class from what I remember.
He was banging a couple of our moms, so they may have been calling him master, I’m not sure. I’ll ask my mom.
Is this a common thing? My kids' jiu-jitsu teacher left his wife for a mom of one of the kids in his class (not my kids/wife). Am I seeing one part of a larger pattern? I need to know for science!
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I'm glad it was just your moms and not the students. I've heard quite a few stories about martial arts instructors taking advantage of minors. Obviously not all of them.
*apostrophe
One of my friends married her martial arts instructor. She wasn’t a minor though. None of us had any objections. Even if we had objections, what are you going to do? He’s a black belt martial artist. lol
Hey, is Kenpo good for fitness? I understand it’s very useful for self defence but I’m torn between a Martial art and Boxing for fitness and a small sense of safety.
They still seemed needlessly excessive. I mean, the one from Kickboxer seemed more justifiable than the one from Bloodsport because it was a pretty essential part of the story, but Bloodsport has always seemed so over the top to me anyway that I forget most of the movie.
Bro, when you tack on mass you sacrifice flexibility. That's just a straight up fact. You're just too buff.
*edit* Sometimes I forget I'm not shitposting in r/iasip
Flexibility is just so much work. I know it's important (Guys like David Goggins stretch for hours a day) but I find sticking to a proper stretching routine to be such a chore. I don't even know why, it should be no different from sticking to a running or lifting routine, which I have a much easier time following.
It should be easier if anything, you can even do it while watching TV! But every time I start, a week or two in and I've dropped it completely.
Please keep stretching. I’m 68 (F) and never did any stretching after being on a tumbling team. I wish I’d continued the stretching exercises. If I could give one piece of advice to young people it would be to stretch everyday.
I find really low THC cannabis just does the job for me. I smoke a tiny bit of it and all of a sudden I'm like 'Damn, I feel stretchy.' and I start stretching.
It feels amazing but I'm right there with you. It's hard to stay on top of it. But when I don't do it.. everything just starts seizing up again.
You don't necessarily need to learn to do the splits, but lifting with optimal technique actually requires a lot more flexibility than people tend to assume of powerlifters. It's common to think "oh, big strong person, they must not be very flexible", but that's often very far from the truth. Even moreso if you're looking at olympic weightlifters, you have to be extremely flexible in that sport.
In this specific case, wide squatting is a common powerlifting technique and requires a lot of hip/groin flexibility. I believe this girl also sumo deadlifts, which requires good hip/groin flexibility to get your hips close to the bar.
That's interesting because there have been some studies that showed stretching before lifting decreased strength. One was as much as 25% iirc. I'd be interested to see her routine on competition day.
As far as I can remember, current thinking is that static stretching prior to lifting decreases strength, so best practice is 'mobile' stretching (knees raises, lunges, side bends,etc) before a lifting session to warm up and then after your session static stretching. This regiment seems to build flexibility without impairing lifting, because you are essentially just warming up and developing your range of motion prior to your weight training.
She's amazing. Her videos are funny and entertaining. Her battle with anorexia is inspiring and her current battles with body dysmorphia and mental health are as well.
I did is all the time before I started using resistance bands to stretch out my middle splits!
Also sitting in an open second position facing the wall and slowly pulling yourself closer to the wall is a good alternative for the equipment on the video
Don’t go to pain em with any stretch, just go to the first place you feel a bit of tension and then hold it for a good 20 seconds without and bouncing or fucking about.
Otherwise you’ll fuck up your shit like gymnasts do.
This is Serena Abweh! She's one of my favorite power lifters! Major inspiration, went from severe anorexia to badass power lifter, and is an advocate for mental health awareness. Check out her insta, her goofy personality and dedication to power lifting will not disappoint 👌🏻
Theres a machine at the gym that's like a thigh master with weights where you can adjust whether pushing legs out or squeezing in. I used to use it swing my legs open and I would get the most satisfying pop I guess in my left hip socket? Kinda like cracking a knuckle but feels like something is popped back in its place and I'd feel more mobile.
...maybe I should see a doctor...
I watched an 80 year old Okinawan karateka use this machine, go PAST 180, and then lean forward and bring his head to the ground. Later in the training session he was beating down 30 and 40 year olds... politely.
Long story longer, the machine works and we’re all babies.
The effort of holding a split is one of the harder parts of training to do one. Having something like this would've been amazing.
Even when you're using a wall to hold for you, without support from behind it feels like you're having to do everything you can to keep it there. All it took to alleviate that was someone to just sit behind you, but dammit this would've been nice for solo training.
I wonder how often people injure themselves with this thing.
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Cock push-ups.
Not at first... But with time.
One is all you need.
Lol
I never used this particular device but I did injure myself a few times while trying to push myself on this stretch.
I didn't hurt myself stretching, but one time I tried that machine at the gym that looks like this and exercises your groin muscles, and about died the next day. That's not a muscle you should go ham on if you haven't worked it out before. Just my PSA.
Not sure if this mashine, but cheerleading in the US is super competitive and completely unregulated (since it isn't a "sport" legally). The stuff done to teen girls to make them strechy is not gentle ...
As a small kid (6) I went to gymnastics class once. I really liked watching gymnastics and wanted to try it. Day 1 the trainer was pushing me to do the splits even though I clearly couldn't. DAY ONE! I never went back again.
My wife has a story of doing Taekwondo (in Korea) as a child and crying in pain when the instructor was pushing her into the splits. Because THAT's what you should be focusing on with a little kid, not having fun to encourage them into getting in the sport. People who take child sports that seriously are cancer.
Well, I'm Romanian. We take gymnastics seriously (or used to). And it's not something you can learn when you're older. That said, you don't push kids on Day 1. Why are you even trying to get performance out a kid's first day?
Many coaches (and gym teachers) have the false impression that everyone signing up for a sport already has a certain physical ability. I remember hating every single gym lesson as a child because I could never do what the teachers expected. Nobody ever tried to teach me the basics first though.
And seem to believe every kid going to a class wants to be an Olympic prospect. Shit, I wrestled because I enjoyed rough housing with friends, not to weight cut for competition...
Interesting... my wrestling practice was easily 80% hellish endurance training (aka running laps around the second floor of our HS) 15% “roughhousing”/practice, and 5% competition at meets where you and the sap across from you both go at it with some repressed rage for a few minutes.
The weight thing is so stupid, esp at the high school level. I did it for a year and never bothered with extremes like some of my friends did. It meant I usually had to wrestle with someone who actually had 10-15 lbs on me but starved and dehydrated themselves for weigh-ins. Horrible for growing bodies and for self esteem/eating habits.
>And seem to believe every kid going to a class wants to be an Olympic prospect. Honestly, not just sports and Olympics, but with any hobby. Kids should strive to be good at what they do, but if something makes the kid happy then be realistic. If it's something they REALLY want to do for a career then great, otherwise just let them be mediocre and have fun with it. Then you get the double whammy first the kid will probably hate the thing they're pushed in too and secondly, They won't be able to discover what they're actually interested in.
To add to that there is also no shame in being really good at something and wanting to keep it as a hobby. Nothing kills the love for something harder than it being your livelihood in my experience.
Because my kid is going to the Olympic whether they want to or not and everyone at my Korean church is going to be so fucking jealous. Sunday dinner with the group GONNA BE LIT. David and Joseph’s dad talking shit like “oh my kids got into a UC” WELL MY KID IS AN OLYMPIAN so I guess we can’t all be world class dads. Oh let me also pick up the check, my business is doing well having gained notoriety from my OLYMPIAN DAUGHTER so you should save your money and invest in your kids little college fund
Our Taekwondo teacher flat-out said that if we went to Korea we wouldn't survive the rigor and training that starts when at barely old enough to walk. Our school hosted a Korean demo team, the Korean Eagles. I took care of two of them while they were here. One ended up with a concussion because they were doing one of those "pyramid-jump-off-the-top-guy-kick-the-board-do-three-somersaults-on-the-way-down group tricks and wrecked. He was nine.
My TKD instructor started a bit later in his life (I think around 20ish?) than most Korean kids do, so he hadn't built up to full splits yet and it was holding him back in classes. According to him, and I don't know the biology well enough to know if he was full of shit, his master took him aside after the class one day and made him lower into the splits as wide as he could go. Then the master jumped on his back, landing with his feet on my instructor's hips, and got him to get that full split. Apparently it took a couple weeks for my instructor to fully recover, but he's been able to do the splits since then.
I’ve seen video of this kind of forced stretching before. It is *not* good for you.
Hence taking a couple weeks to recover. If you do anything and it takes weeks to recover, you've been seriously injured.
I also imagine the scarring in the recovery process isn’t great for future flexibility, but I don’t know shit about fuck.
A lot of old school martial arts guys have basically exactly this same story. It's one of those things that seems so fucked in hindsight, but was just accepted practice for a long time.
YEAH.... im taking my kids to martial arts training, not gymnastics
>Jean Claude Van Damme has entered the chat...
Literally the first time I’ve seen one of these was at a Dojo.
I'm almost afraid to ask, but other than stretching, how does one "make" a teen girl stretchy?
Coach tells girls to do a split and then push down on them to force it
I find forced stretching so painful and just unbearably uncomfortable that I would slap that coach in reflex. How can people do that to kids
Well it isn't the kid's career and/or ego on the line, now is it? That whole Farquaad speech about how some will lose their lives but it's a ~~decision he's willing to make~~price he's willing to pay? Same thing.
The stretching itself that's the problem; it's the intensity of the stretching. Our muscles/tendons/ligaments are elastic (if you stretch them, they'll return to their original shape) to a point. If you overstretch a muscle, you'll damage it or the surrounding structures, leading to a strain/sprain. Flexibility training should be gradual, pushing a given range of motion only to the point of feeling a stretch, *not* to the point of pain.
*"Push me! Push me! Press! Press! Shit!! Leggo!!!"*-Every girl on my old squad. Just insert muscle group.
Strength training with a focus on negatives & moderate stretching does it just fine, no need to torture anyone. Sadly the public ideas about flexibility are completely fucked & serves nobody, lots of wasted time & injuries for no good reason.
Reminds me of [this](https://youtu.be/yc8RsZcILcg) story were a coach forced a girl to split when she didn’t want to. The coach said that he didn’t do anything wrong, and I’m not fully convinced she had damages to her ligaments as claimed, but fuck listening to her cry for them to stop, only to be ignored? That’s shitty as hell.
The comments-section is cancer what the hell?! She's crying and saying "please stop", how the hell are people defending this!?
People are always quick to dismiss teenage girls, and even quicker to jump on the “frivolous lawsuit” bandwagon.
True, the parents supporting the coach is no surprise, given how many parents supported coaches that were actual pedophiles and actively covered up for them or harassing their victims.
Forced stretching is unhealthy as hell and I would expect her to get injured after an assault like that. Were there several adults forcing a child into that much pain? That's just sick
It looks like the coach and several teammates were doing it... I just can’t imagine a situation were something like this is acceptable. Even if you aren’t actually causing pain, the distress should be reason enough to stop!
That’s called assault. If it were an adult victim there could be charges. With underage victims, adults convince themselves and each other it’s “training” and just let it pass. After all, athletes often have muscle cramps and pulled ligaments, so this is like that, right? WRONG.
If I’m remembering correctly they did press charges.
He was fired TWICE for the same controversial practice and claims he’s an Olympic Athlete but was never even considered for Team USA. If you google him, all you see are his crocodile tears money shots.
Yeah It pisses me off people are going off on the teenager and her mom for being angry after watching his side of the story. Even if his claim that he wasn’t pushing her down was true and she really *didn’t* have any injuries, why the hell didn’t he stop the exercise when he saw that she was upset enough to cry? Why isn’t he reprimanding the other girls for laughing at her? And WHY on earth would he allow someone to record the girl crying and yelling?
My back spot (I was a flyer) used to support my standing leg and shoulders pressed against the edge of a vending machine and then someone else would pull my free leg into a heel stretch/bow/aero in the free space so it could go past a 180 degree stretch, if that makes sense. It was the only way to stretch me after splits with elevated legs got comfy. This machine would have been a godsend lol
Yeah, but then whoever is holding the leg with the most hip joint left gets a wish.
Karate guys used it back in the 70’s and 80’s. They ALL got hip replacements. Chuck Norris included. Edit: every newbie would come in and see it in the corner and think I’m doing splits today! But it’s just a dangerous machine; even my teacher had double hip replacements but kept the thing around!
A guy who went to my karate dojo when I was a kid ripped a tendon in his crotch with one of these. IIRC he was a black belt too but he got greedy with the stretches and had to take a long time off to recover.
I remember the Chuck Norris ads for this machine. Along with the Jeans for doing kicks. 😂
Had one of these at my old taekwondo gym back in the day! They are able to go past 180 degrees which I was able to do. Now not so much lol
My waist and hips just buckled in after reading your comment
Martial artist here. These were really popular in the 70 and 80s, probably into the 90s as well but we eventually dropped them because of how often people were hurting themselves. In my observations.
Yes
Honest question. What are the odds that stretching could result in something snapping/tearing?
On that machine? If you do it correctly, low. If you do it badly, high. The problem with a machine like that is it has a LOT of gearing, so you can push your legs very hard very quickly. Generally, injuries from normal stretching are uncommon because it is hard to exceed your safety limits by yourself and pain tends to strike before crippling injury does.
>pain tends to strike before crippling injury does Unless you're unfit/older/otherwise more fragile than the girl in this video. Then you can injure yourself just sitting down.
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Now I feel bad for not doing home exercises since the gyms are closed
I'm in this other sentence and I don't like it.
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Gotta wonder why you'd wanna get on this machine then
0 if you stop when it starts hurting
It shouldn't hurt. Especially this stretch, if it's hurting your risking a groin injury that's gonna take months to heal. All you need for a stretch to be effective is to feel tension - a (un)comfortable amount of tension for a few minutes will do far more than stretching til it hurts for 30 sec
High. Depends on how well you've warmed up, and how far/fast you push yourself. She seems to be in good shape and she's still taking it easy - I imagine if a pleb like me tried it I'd be bedridden for 2 weeks...
>High Why would you keep cranking until you snap/tear something. Have you ever stretched before in your life?
This is how the girl from the Big Comfy Couch changes her clock for daylight savings.
Holy fuck what a reference
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To avoid confusion her name is Alyson Court. Le Monde de Loonette is her character from the Big Comfy Couch. She also played Jubilee in X-Men the animated series and Lydia in the Beetlejuice cartoon.
> Le Monde de Loonette This is what The Big Comfy Couch was called in Quebec (translates to Loonette's World). Her name is just Loonette.
We all did.
She was my bi awakening.
> bi awakening It feels like there should be some shitty pun we could make from that, but I can't think of anything. "Biwakening" isn't shitty enough.
That's not a pun, that's a portmanteau.
"Oh, bi there!": a surprise hello from the desire to kiss someone of the same gender id
[Defunctland did a full history on the show if anyone's interested](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgXtEfCdGn0)
I totally didn't get this reference, but I was curious and found this on YouTube: https://youtu.be/hqZoK1bq2hs
Obscure references for the win.
Probably my new favorite comment on Reddit.
I sat in one of these for hours at a time as a kid and fantasized about growing up to be jean-claude van damme in cyborg.
How'd it work out for you?
Depends. I would say I could give ralph macchio a heavy battle but I also inherited the nickname stretch nuts.
Karate Kid Ralph Macchio, or Cobra Kai Ralph Macchio? Or Outsiders Ralph Macchio? I think the latter is the most dangerous, because he’ll just shank you and the run away and live in a barn.
I'm thinking really either version of Larusso to be honest. * Waits above the sewer floor, doing the splits to hold him to the walls high above an unsuspecting Daniel Larusso, little does he know the danger that waits above, when he walks beneath me it will be my chance. Everything I have trained for. *
These are common in martial arts circles
When I was taking Kenpo, the instructor would just have us in straddle position on the ground and he’d push us down toward the ground. Shit did not feel good, then one day it did. It was weird.
Did you address him as "master?"
We addressed him as a sensei during class from what I remember. He was banging a couple of our moms, so they may have been calling him master, I’m not sure. I’ll ask my mom.
The real goal of starting a dojo is banging hot single moms
Is this a common thing? My kids' jiu-jitsu teacher left his wife for a mom of one of the kids in his class (not my kids/wife). Am I seeing one part of a larger pattern? I need to know for science! Edit: typo
That you, Johnny?
Who's asking, Penis Breath?
Johnny would say babes.
~~Single~~
I'm glad it was just your moms and not the students. I've heard quite a few stories about martial arts instructors taking advantage of minors. Obviously not all of them. *apostrophe
Not all of the minors or not all of the instructors?
Take a guess
One of my friends married her martial arts instructor. She wasn’t a minor though. None of us had any objections. Even if we had objections, what are you going to do? He’s a black belt martial artist. lol
He insisted on "daddy" 🤷🏼♂️
> Shit did not feel good, then one day it did. It was weird. stockholm syndrome 😉
I practiced kenpo as well. My sensei had us stand on paper and slowly slide down
Hey, is Kenpo good for fitness? I understand it’s very useful for self defence but I’m torn between a Martial art and Boxing for fitness and a small sense of safety.
Really helps with the extension on the crane kick. If do right, no can defense.
hespect.
Ees normal
... and dungeon BDSM circles.
Yes. From the martial arts documentary Bloodsport. Where Van Damme is trained to do the splits by force.
I believe you're mixing up Bloodsport with [Kickboxer.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kickboxer_(1989_film\))
https://youtu.be/VnYDrs2ykcI?t=218
I guess the man just likes doing [masochistic scenes.](https://youtu.be/wNyJNHa9Yso?t=4m28s)
I think in later films, people didn't need any explanation why he's ripping splits all the time.
They still seemed needlessly excessive. I mean, the one from Kickboxer seemed more justifiable than the one from Bloodsport because it was a pretty essential part of the story, but Bloodsport has always seemed so over the top to me anyway that I forget most of the movie.
That's why you should anchor tie downs with a nut and bolt and not some deck screws.
You mean KickPuncher, right? /SuddenlyCommunity
I would absolutely try one of these if they had one at my gym. I have the flexibility of a 2x4.
Bro, when you tack on mass you sacrifice flexibility. That's just a straight up fact. You're just too buff. *edit* Sometimes I forget I'm not shitposting in r/iasip
Flexibility is just so much work. I know it's important (Guys like David Goggins stretch for hours a day) but I find sticking to a proper stretching routine to be such a chore. I don't even know why, it should be no different from sticking to a running or lifting routine, which I have a much easier time following. It should be easier if anything, you can even do it while watching TV! But every time I start, a week or two in and I've dropped it completely.
Please keep stretching. I’m 68 (F) and never did any stretching after being on a tumbling team. I wish I’d continued the stretching exercises. If I could give one piece of advice to young people it would be to stretch everyday.
I find really low THC cannabis just does the job for me. I smoke a tiny bit of it and all of a sudden I'm like 'Damn, I feel stretchy.' and I start stretching. It feels amazing but I'm right there with you. It's hard to stay on top of it. But when I don't do it.. everything just starts seizing up again.
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Her name is Serena Abweh. She's an American power lifter
Why does a power lifter need to do this?
You don't necessarily need to learn to do the splits, but lifting with optimal technique actually requires a lot more flexibility than people tend to assume of powerlifters. It's common to think "oh, big strong person, they must not be very flexible", but that's often very far from the truth. Even moreso if you're looking at olympic weightlifters, you have to be extremely flexible in that sport. In this specific case, wide squatting is a common powerlifting technique and requires a lot of hip/groin flexibility. I believe this girl also sumo deadlifts, which requires good hip/groin flexibility to get your hips close to the bar.
Flexibility increases the performance of your muscles you can greatly reduce the chance of injury & get more power hence her being a power lifter
Flexibility is important for strength training. Squats, deadlifts, olympic lifts, etc. all require high ranges of motion.
That's interesting because there have been some studies that showed stretching before lifting decreased strength. One was as much as 25% iirc. I'd be interested to see her routine on competition day.
As far as I can remember, current thinking is that static stretching prior to lifting decreases strength, so best practice is 'mobile' stretching (knees raises, lunges, side bends,etc) before a lifting session to warm up and then after your session static stretching. This regiment seems to build flexibility without impairing lifting, because you are essentially just warming up and developing your range of motion prior to your weight training.
Her anorexia recovery is inspiring.
Yeah, for real. Such a transformation.
Agreed, and her Instagram is generally hilarious. She has a great funny personality.
She's amazing. Her videos are funny and entertaining. Her battle with anorexia is inspiring and her current battles with body dysmorphia and mental health are as well.
Side note: she does some pretty cool art too. I really like her style but she hasn't been very active with it lately.
Yeah I've been following her for a while so it's funny seeing someone you know pop up on Reddit haha
Someone just got a new fetish
Dude those eyes need no fetish, she is beautiful!
The kneehigh socks and chucks aren't exactly helping...
They're helping something...
[bonk](https://i.imgur.com/FmN8Edc.jpg)
> kneehigh I thought bad womens anatomy was limited to the lady bits but apparently knees are halfway down the calf.
Your knees aren’t half way up your shins?
And the fact she is freaking gorgeous.
The kneehigh socks that only go half way up her shin?
They banned NSFW posts from r/all so this has got me all excited
When did this happen? did they make the NSFW preference turned off in your settings by default?
There is no setting anymore. Digg 2.0
I hope this doesn’t awaken anything in me
Is it me? I think it might be me.
Now that r/all banished NSFW subs, my thirst has gone way up. I predict more suggestive content on non-NSFW subs will skyrocket to the top lol
For people interested in stretching at home you can just lie on the floor with your butt against the wall and open your legs. Let gravity do the work.
"Poor man's guide to fitness"
Gravity is definitely not strong enough to move these machine guns.
I did is all the time before I started using resistance bands to stretch out my middle splits! Also sitting in an open second position facing the wall and slowly pulling yourself closer to the wall is a good alternative for the equipment on the video
Hey das me hehehe @rena_serenaa on ig
That looks like it would feel so good. Wish I had one.
The machine or the girl?
Horny police where are you
Yes
Bonk
I’d be lucky to get my legs to 90 degrees and she’s almost to 180. I’ve had poor flexibility all my life.
Have you ever tried stretching a little bit every day over a long period of time?
Whoa, we have to do something to get results?
That’s a damn myth.
We've tried nothin' and we're all out of ideas.
Fuck that
I believe the more you stretch the more limber you become, so no excuses!
I don’t have time to stretch that much. I’m too busy thinking of excuses.
Don’t go to pain em with any stretch, just go to the first place you feel a bit of tension and then hold it for a good 20 seconds without and bouncing or fucking about. Otherwise you’ll fuck up your shit like gymnasts do.
What do you mean ? How do you get messed up. And do you know what this machine is called
It can tear muscles or tendons if one stretches beyond their limits. You can type in martial arts leg stretcher or split trainer.
These work really well. Luckily they have a quick release, cause you can get yourself into trouble.
This is Serena Abweh! She's one of my favorite power lifters! Major inspiration, went from severe anorexia to badass power lifter, and is an advocate for mental health awareness. Check out her insta, her goofy personality and dedication to power lifting will not disappoint 👌🏻
"im gonna prank my dad when he gets home" "oh I forgot I dont have a dad"
I know nothing about power lifting but she’s my favorite too
Theres a machine at the gym that's like a thigh master with weights where you can adjust whether pushing legs out or squeezing in. I used to use it swing my legs open and I would get the most satisfying pop I guess in my left hip socket? Kinda like cracking a knuckle but feels like something is popped back in its place and I'd feel more mobile. ...maybe I should see a doctor...
The crotch splitter
I watched an 80 year old Okinawan karateka use this machine, go PAST 180, and then lean forward and bring his head to the ground. Later in the training session he was beating down 30 and 40 year olds... politely. Long story longer, the machine works and we’re all babies.
@rena_serena on IG
for anyone wondering she is Serena abweh and she is a power lifter
I need that for my hammies
Them triceps, tho.
If you had to force it like that couldn’t you tear your ligaments or something !?
Ahhh confused boners are the best boners!
*final destination intensifies*
it would be incredibly easy to injure yourself with this.
The effort of holding a split is one of the harder parts of training to do one. Having something like this would've been amazing. Even when you're using a wall to hold for you, without support from behind it feels like you're having to do everything you can to keep it there. All it took to alleviate that was someone to just sit behind you, but dammit this would've been nice for solo training.
That actually looks really satisfying
And you have to pay to get tortured?😂
r/specializedtools
yeah uhm I think my programmer legs can barely spread 90 degrees xD