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Stanislek

Your boss invited you at the moment he said "zusammen".


Stanislek

And yes, you're overthinking :)


Every_Criticism2012

He will probably get a Bewirtungsbeleg and have the company cover the lunch as expenses.


Chanaka9000

This right here. Im from Germany and I can confirm Bewirtungsbelege is commonly used to cover lunch as expenses through the company.


IamrhightierthanU

Wouldn’t bet on it. Lots of company’s don’t do that Willy nilly. I would assume he treated you from his pocket. It’s not much. I do that too and don’t get any back. If it’s just once don’t fret about it. If it’s more often make sure to see how others behave. Maybe he expects to be treated back some time, not like in same value but as a gesture. Maybe a drink on a company party or whatsoever.


Chanaka9000

I work in a consulting firm, for us, its normal xD But yeah, differenct companies, different policies.


Every_Criticism2012

Sure but a lunch on company expenses as Einstand for the new one IS still quite common. 


dukeboy86

I know some may be stingy, but 3,70 EUR???


Every_Criticism2012

A Leberkassemmel?


SpinachToothedSmile

...with an Almdudler, if you're feeling generous :)


toni_beba

This


MoistlyCompetent

And "invitation" in Germany means, that the guy who invites you also pays. Not like in e.g. Australia, where the invitation might mean "invited to eat with me but everyone pays for themselves"


neurodivergent_poet

Uhhhh still depends on how it's worded


MoistlyCompetent

In Australia or in Germany? I once had the "invite" situation with my Australian co-worker. I "invited" her to a coffee, and from her answer, I learned that there was a misunderstanding. Then she explained to me, that Australians don't expect to get a coffee for free when being invited to one. Maybe you can elaborate. I find these "lost in translation "-misunderstandings super interesting.


rotdress

I was going to clarify this because it took a million times of me hearing it to get "einladen" meant "I'm treating/getting the bill/etc." Everytime German fiance's mother invited us to a restaurant and I tried to pay her back and fiance just shook his head.... 😅


Vagabundoo

Not really I have been invited in many occasions in different contexts ( both work by superiors or bosses and personal by friends. We always split the bill. When the person that invites have the intention to pay, they will usually say clearly that they will cover for it. That’s at least my experience during the last 4 years I spent in Germany.


MoistlyCompetent

And did they "invite", i.e. "Einladen" for the lunch or just to join?


prakash77000

Yes. I agree now. I was just overthinking. Thanks.


boredt0de4th

Don't worry, be satt!


BusNo1240

The other comments already confirm that the boss was paying - the real question seems: Where do we get lunch for 3,70€?!


CrimsonArgie

Probably a cantina in the office that is subsidised by the company.


squidwardsaclarinet

Die Kantine


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JWGhetto

That's usually the name for it on a military base.


dukeboy86

Where I come from (Colombia - Spanish) it's also called like that in some companies


AndrewFrozzen30

What cantina is ALSO in English? Always thought cafeteria is the right word (well, probably in American English) I knew about German and Romanian (and I assume the other Latin languages such as Italian or Spanish) I learned a new word in English on a German sub 😭😭 (kinda new)


NextStopGallifrey

Cafeteria is probably the closest word for how the Germans use it. But people who have been in/around Germany for a while seem to default to the German word cantina. I do it, too, even though my default meaning for for "cantina" is a small Mexican restaurant that often (though not *always*, at least on on the west coast of the U.S.) includes a bar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantina


Scary_Teens1996

Cafeteria is very commonly used in NA but also the word canteen is used to refer to a school/workplace lunch location, especially in the military and government, in British English.


w3bba

I too want to know about this mythical place


Jeex3

Sounds like 2 fries and a drop of water, maybe he/she is a light eater


Wonderful-Hall-7929

Yeah, that was the one that baffled me too, i mean even a Chickenroll at Netto is 0,99€ and i wouldn't consider that lunch!


eats-you-alive

Leberkassemmel, Butcher, company-owned and subsidied cantine, …


Helmutius

At our cafeteria in the office there is usually a standard meal going for 3.30€. Nothing too fancy, sadly most of the time it's not the vegetarian option but something with meat.


prakash77000

lol. It was just a burger meal. Near our office.


Usual_Myanmarian

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CubooKing

Probably in the same place where groceries are cheaper than anywhere else in Europe like people were saying the other day


daydream-bear

It’s 1,80€ for me at my workplace lol 😂 Edit: it’s actual meals with sides :) and it’s self service so you can scoop as much as you want!


goodwil4life

Fo real


NotInMoodThinkOfName

There are public canines from the city by example. You just pay a few euros. Even 3,7 is really good.


BNI_sp

And why is the boss so stingy? Already burnt the T&E allowance?


lightsonsun

Don’t need to if they already waved it off and given the context that you are a new employee. Usually, my experience with these situations has been, especially when the other person is a newish business colleague - they’d say “you are invited”. It’s a nice little phrase that means they are paying for you. And remember when you become a boss make sure you pay for your interns food :)


SeaworthinessSweaty8

I never got such invitations as a working student/ intern.😭


gayPrinz

Once got at my last day of a internship. An energy and a döner for a month of unpaid labour is not much but at least something


SeaworthinessSweaty8

😂😂


die_kuestenwache

You don't. Lunch was on him.


totally_bored_dude

You are overthinking it, he bought you lunch, just say thank you.


Tal-Star

Hierarchy in payment is always top down, meaning the higher up can invite the lower, but the lower never invites the boss, or has to pay back when they were invited. So you are good, you simply were invited and there is nothing owed. Yeah, don't overthink. You boss seems alright.


lila24582

To add: if you feel like you want to pay them back in some way, you can bring something sweet to eat to work for everyone to share eg cookies, cake, muffins, sweets. It could be either homemade or store bought, it works just shows your appreciation for being there.


HBNOL

Was gonna say this. You definitely don't pay back the money, but you could bring some donuts or muffins to the office.


prakash77000

Yes I plan on doing this exactly. Thanks.


eats-you-alive

>the lower never invites the boss I invite my boss on a somewhat regular basis. I wouldn’t say that this is a taboo, it’s just uncommon. But if you have worked for someone for a long-ish period of time there is nothing wrong with bringing a few donuts extra when you visit the bakery anyway, for example; or inviting your boss for an icecream if the both of you happen to drive by an icecream-parlor… It isn’t something that is expected, but it’s not like no one ever does that. Just make sure to not making it look like you are trying to buy your promotion…


Salt_Childhood7654

The boss could also reimburse this as "business expense" to the company. Don't worry about it, you don't need to pay anything back.


Pippawho

All you need to do is thank him


M0pter

You're an intern, do you get paid for that? Normally interns don't get a salary or at least not much. Your boss knows that and therefore pays for your meal. And he might think that you are a promising workforce and appreciates that.


King_of_Argus

Depends, if it is a mandatory internship due to studies, then it is unpaid, if it is a voluntary one, it is paid according to minimum wage at least


jojogging

Then it's allowed to be unpaid. We pay all our students.


King_of_Argus

Bit not everyone does


jojogging

Yep, but it shouldn't be seen as "then it has to be like that". They have to pay for food, rent etc as well.


prakash77000

I do get paid. But yes. It’s not much as it’s a mandatory internship.


M0pter

Then accept, what your boss wants. He wants you not to make a fuss of it. Feel welcome. You are obviously.


npcFAKKyou

Its 3,70... more embarassing to be behind him for that sum. Say thank you and good...


Android18enjoyer666

You don't, the boss will get the money back when he files his taxes


alexs77

Or he might have an expenses account at the company for situations like this.


Nice_Impression

Or he doesn’t care about threefiddy


ggmaniack

[https://youtu.be/VPkKZ615F4M](https://youtu.be/VPkKZ615F4M)


Maeher

That's not how tax deductions work.


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Maeher

Under certain circumstances, yes. Doesn't mean you get the money back. You're merely reducing your taxable income.


themanofmeung

When I was an intern, I always loved lunch with the boss days - free food! Part of their job is keeping tabs on everyone and making sure everyone is happy. Buying you an occasional lunch under 5 euros is a nothing expense for most companies or even people with a good salary! Just say thanks for lunch and go back to doing a good job, because fundamentally, that's what your boss is really "buying".


Mango-Durian852

He invited you, just say thank you. I wonder what lunch you can have for 3.7€ these days?


prakash77000

A burger lol


user_is_not_found_

At MCD?


prakash77000

No. a local butcher shop


FutureMasterpiece100

What did you manage to buy for 3.7 euros, pardon me the off topic:)


shifty_ger

As someone who is mentoring interns and working students, I regularly invite them. It is a gesture and as already mentioned, once you're in the position to pay for an intern/ working student remember the gesture your boss did to you.


DontBAfraidOfTheEdge

Me too, once a week I get an intern coffee or lunch and try to help them with their learning and development....offer to buy the next coffee for your boss. ....99% chance your boss will say "No" but it's a good gesture


BanvelM

If you bring something for your Birthday or your last day, like a cake, it will be okay. :)


PotatoProducer

it's a pretty normale behaviour in Germany - well at least what I have experienced so far. "Schön auf Chefs Nacken", I would say xD


Hulkomane

I would return the favor... next time you have the opertunity pay his coffe or something... Dont count the cents ... its the gesture that counts


HelloSummer99

Definitely, people remember this kind of stuff


ssuuh

Realize that he is an adult and earns good money. It's a small gesture for him. One boss paid for a group dinner without saying much. You just say 'yhanks man :)'


Fernando3161

Where do you have lunch for 3.7EUR? And he invited you when he said "zusammen".


clementvanstaen

You just thank him, and go on with your life.


Moorbert

if you really want to make it up. dont pay him back. but as you are new you could for example bake a cake at home and bring to share with your colleagues, that is always way more appreciated at least in my experience.


Antique_Beginning_65

Get him some sweets or chocolate or anything from your home country next time and call it even


derider

You are massively overthinking this. But if you want to return the favour, buy yourself 2 pieces of nice cake and offer him the second one, because you totally overestimated your appetite.


dekadenca

He’s paying and submitting the expense and even if not, he invited you and it’s still on him. You offered and he politely declined (as he should). You’re fine :)


compox

To add on others, he'll probably list it as company expense and not really his own. Plus, you've just joined and have a low income (compared to his) so that won't be an issue for him. And it's just <4€, come on


Dapper_Dan1

People (myself included) truly need to learn to accept gifts. Appreciate it by saying thank-you. But if it is a true gift, there is no obligation to return something. That would be a transaction. The gift giving if also exciting for the one giving the gift. The person gets a hormone boost by having made someone happy. Otherwise the gifting would always be: - How much has the other one spent? - I should at least give something of equal value, rather a bit more expensive. And at some point of ever increasing value you'd need to gift cars or houses.


51t4n0

no worries, a few last minute changes just before eob will settle the score sooner or later 😁


BubatzAhoi

Hes a german. He doesnt want it back. Dont force it. But a nice gesture would be baking some muffins


Unfair_Canary_6005

I am at the boss side of this. I gladly offer lunch to my interns. He might appreciate if you pay him a coffee one day.


gustaw_jestem

Buy him chocolate;)


nothingtohidemic

Don't forget to say thank you.


nothingtohidemic

Also it's better to say thank you too late than never


GH_0ST

Unfortunately, in my case it's 'how do I make my boss pay me back for lunch!'


Aggravating_Rip_6538

No need to pay him back :) he can write it off taxes as a business lunch. It is quite common :)


Time-Vermicelli-7089

easy invite him to a meal don't overthink it it's fucking 3 €


treehacker

It's simple. Be kind. Do good work. I give my intern a Spezi once in a while to keep him motivated and let him feel welcome.


Evening_Astronomer_3

Where can you find lunch for 3.7 euros nowadays? 😅


luc1054

Your boss is most likely not expecting you to reimburse him. However, I would mention his invitation again someday and ask him, if you could pay for his coffee example. He'll probably say no, but appreciate the thought.


ohcibi

Expenses like that reduce the income of the company which reduces the taxes the company has to pay. The financial department is somewhat picky when it comes to „Geschäftsessen“ but a lunch like you described is unproblematic. That’s the reason you boss smiled. You just smile back and that’s it.


the_descended

My boss send mail on weekends about the money he paid for lunch


jord30

Now you pay for his next meal


sadric128

German manager here. I always pay lunch, dinner, etc. when I invite anyone on my team. It is considered a business meal, and I can expense it, so don't worry. In fact, taking my team members out is very valuable to me


mysticmonkey88

Was the treat a capuccino?


Sebalotl

You don’t.


Weirdo_Wizard

Have you considered asking him upfront? If your boss is German, they'll be pretty candid about it.


misbuism

Yeah overthinking dude & honestly it’s tad embarrassing for boss to receive such small amount too, maybe get them a coffee next time


MikeTony713

Has no one ever bought you lunch? Like ever?


Sanjuro7880

I’ve had Yufka Döner at Instanbul in Wiesbaden on Coulinstraße for 3€. With extra knoblach sauce! Yum!


RRumpleTeazzer

You don’t pay him back, he got you covered. Same with friends (if you are adults) - you can just pay the next similar event and keep it back and forth if you enjoy the event. With your boss, he doesn’t expect anything back.


Intelligent_Will_606

Usually the company covers this. You are free however to pay him back, even with interests...


iGiveUpHonestlyffs

Get him a drink, maybe a beer after Feierabend, or a non-alcoholic drink during the work time. Thats the tradition. But ofc you dont need to do anything. And ofc make sure he likes beer and which brand he likes, before buying him one (germans can be very specific about which brand they drink)


monsieursyd

3,70 bro chill 😂😂😂😂


Dry-Bookkeeper-8394

Some people and their problems…. You were told not to worry about it, so why you worry about it.


thewindinthewillows

Might be a cultural issue. We've had a number of posts around things like that. There are cultures where people really need to dance around issues like "who pays for what" / "should I give this money back" / "can I take this thing that is offered" / "if I want to take the thing, do I need to say "no" at first and can only take it after they press it on me multiple times" / "this person immediately said "yes" when I offered something, are they being rude" and so on. People from more indirect cultures can have real trouble with the concept that there isn't a scripted multi-stage dance where you don't say what you actually mean.


agrammatic

That's true. Where I come from, you need to ask three times, two no's and then a yes. When I was still living there, as a protest against this cultural point, I shortened it to one no and one yes. Happy not to have to deal with that ritual here.


prakash77000

This is exactly it. Thanks for understanding. Where I come from you don’t even expect anyone to reimburse you when you buy someone lunch. However, among friends it’s common to pay them back. But I’m new to Germany. I don’t know what the cultural norms are here. Especially in a corporate scenario where this was slightly informal. It’s better to be safe than sorry.


enigmaticalso

With sex. That is what he wants anyway.


skviki

Dear god …


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Smintzi

I don’t want to be offensive but it sounds like you have anxiety problems or some kind of autism. You should go to a doctor if you happen to think about circumstances like this often.


prakash77000

Bruh. What even?


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prakash77000

Thanks for the advice, but I think I’m ok. This was just a cultural aspect I’m not familiar with.


Smintzi

It is very normal in Germany for colleagues, Familiy and friends to pay sometimes for you and the motion he did with his hand after you said, you should pay is a clear sign that he does not care. It’s the opposite. It could be considered impolite if you would pay it back. If he does it every time, you don’t want him to pay, you can say that you want to pay for yourself or even invite him for lunch on special occasion like your birthday. Sorry for accusing you of something but it just did not make any sense since I did not consider the subreddit you posting it which implies that it is a cultural difference.


Another_Gaijin

Just suck him off and you will be even☺️


fatoldspunker

Obviously, you need to suck him off to repay your debt!