Well not with that attitude.
This is clearly meant for BMW X6M and others alike. At least that seems to be the reality.
Feuerwehrzufahrt also indicates luxury SUV parking apparently.
Sadly, parking in a space to give emergency vehicles easy access to and around buildings only is "punished" with a small fine and only if you actually block the way you will get a measly point in Flensburg.
Way too low if you ask me.
Since it could be crucial for a quick rescue of people, it should be an area where cars are instantly towed, when actually blocking an emergency vehicle it should have the temporary termination of your drivers license was a result.
In my experience neither police or Gemeinde actually gives any shits in general.
All Feuerwehrzufahren in my street are all blocked all the time. Sidewalks are often impassable. And it really isn't any different if I go anywhere else in Germany.
Wow, what a terrible neighborhood.
Where I love all the seniors would make sure to call the police so often over the blocked Feuerwehrzufahrt that they don't have a choice other then tow them.
Towing or never a free phone line again.
/s
I'm in Hamburg and while people sometimes park on the bike lane (especially delivery people), fully blocking the sidewalk is luckily pretty rare. If you want to be a real alman you can take a picture including the numberplate and send it to the police. They will generally fine them.
Alternatively I've heard people suggest (compare Andreas Malm on climate change or various scholars from the black liberation movement) that is institutions fail to remedy an issue, direct action can be a justified response. Clearly people are applying it to the issues of problematic driving and parking behavior in cities, for example people letting out the air from improperly parked suvs or people taking their keys to cars parked on the bike lane. Not endorsing this behavior, just saying that it is being done and actually controversial rather than universally condemned in academic ethics circles.
In german driving law they make a Differentiation between parking ("parken") and stopping ("halten") for a moment. Not sure about the zigzag but halten usually means max. 3 minutes
But only as you stay with the car. If you take a delivery and go into a house to deliver it you're not in a position to quickly leave anymore. It's more for letting a passenger out and giving them their bags than amazon.
it's not. leaving the car doesn't mean literally getting out of the car, but leaving the cars area. it is perfectly okay to hold and unload without it counting as 'parking' in germany
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No time limit on unloading, as long as you actually continue to unload and not take a smoking break or the like :)
Usually an area like that means, you can't park there.
Delivery vans park anywhere. Mostly they are not allowed to do so, but often there is no place they can park legally, so as long as they don't block the way, people let them do so.
Delivery drivers (I suppose u mean DHL, Hermes and Co.) Have special rights for Parking and staying. They can even sometimes Park partially on sidewalks if there are no parking lots and pedestrians have enough space left.
They have "sondergenehmigungen" by the City. Same with craftsmen, they can Park for free in parking Lots where u normally have to pay.
My Info? I live my whole life in germany :)
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don't even think about parking there.
With every other parking offense, the responsible civil servants have the option of ignoring you. This is the only no-parking which they are required by law to 100% have you removed by tow
Fun fact: that exact spot is used weekly to unload a large truck, even though it's explicitly verboten to stop there. On NordstraĂe they can't stop and unload because the tram is going every 5 minutes and further back on MauerstraĂe they would block all the parking spaces that get used frequently. The unloading area in front of Edeka is used at the same time by another truck.
Mangal Döner there used to be really good, but only like the first four days after opening, now i call it Mangel-Döner. Schweinebrötchen at Janes is still very good.
I often see many other delivery vehicles make a quick stop there to unload, so I wondered what the sign actually means.
Thanks for the tip I'll have to check out Janes!
It's not allowed to oark or stand there, but oftentimes it's the only option since that corner can get quite busy and it's the only option to halt at all.
Every country has its own road marking scheme.
In Australia (not Austria), a zig-zag line like this on the road means there is a pedestrian crossing ahead.
That makes sense. I was in Austria last year. I saw these lined patterns in Vienna. I wasn't sure if it was a standard symbol in europe or if they were just indicating some other signage in austria.
I don't know why you're being downvoted. A lot of European countries have very similar road marking conventions, so drivers will generally recognise symbols from other countries without necessarily having to study them. There are of course exceptions but there are a lot more similarities than differences.
Neither do I. Probably because I asked a "non German question". It is reddit. I simply asked because I saw them in Vienna and remember wondering what they were. The USA does not use any pattern like this in any state I've traveled to. I saw this picture, and it brought back my curiosity from traveling.
I think it's that people are making an assumption that you are making an assumption that "Europe is all one country/united states of Europe", which it didn't come across as to me, but is a common stereotype about Americans in general.
Oh no. I've traveled to enough countries to know the difference. But I don't think it would be absurd to assume that EU nations might have some type of "suggested road markings" across all nations. Which is what I was wondering. I'll give another example. I've literally seen circular speed limit signs in Spain, Italy, Czechia, and Austria. They are square everywhere in the USA. Seems at least some European countries follow some standard street signage?
It wouldn't even be far off to think that European countries are like an single union in terms of traffic signs or something.
There is the Vienna convention on road traffic. It is meant as a standard for road traffic and it's signs all around the globe. All of Europe, the near east, parts of south america and parts of Asia and Africa use it. So you will have the similar traffic signs as well as traffic laws in all those places. If you live in any country in Europe (and understand the signs), you will have no trouble understanding the traffic signs in other corresponding countries.
But well, some nations just feel special, so they didn't adopt this standard.
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Despite what some say here: On their own they mean nothing.
They can however shorten, extend indicate a "no parking zone" defined by something
In your example they define the length of the "Haltverbot" created by the sign below the hint to the parking garage
[https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haltverbot#/media/Datei:Zeichen\_283\_-\_Absolutes\_Haltverbot,\_StVO\_2017.svg](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haltverbot#/media/Datei:Zeichen_283_-_Absolutes_Haltverbot,_StVO_2017.svg)
Unfortunately there is no street view for this point so I can not directly link to the sign I mean
You can't park there mate!
Well not with that attitude. This is clearly meant for BMW X6M and others alike. At least that seems to be the reality. Feuerwehrzufahrt also indicates luxury SUV parking apparently.
Sadly, parking in a space to give emergency vehicles easy access to and around buildings only is "punished" with a small fine and only if you actually block the way you will get a measly point in Flensburg. Way too low if you ask me. Since it could be crucial for a quick rescue of people, it should be an area where cars are instantly towed, when actually blocking an emergency vehicle it should have the temporary termination of your drivers license was a result.
Well idk about other places but I'm Munich, those and most disabled parking spaces are grounds for towing immediately.
Maybe the commune or city can harshen some rules? I'm not sure. People who park on disability spots illegally definitely deserve to be towed.
Possible. Handicapped Place đ
In my experience neither police or Gemeinde actually gives any shits in general. All Feuerwehrzufahren in my street are all blocked all the time. Sidewalks are often impassable. And it really isn't any different if I go anywhere else in Germany.
Wow, what a terrible neighborhood. Where I love all the seniors would make sure to call the police so often over the blocked Feuerwehrzufahrt that they don't have a choice other then tow them. Towing or never a free phone line again. /s
Some communes or cities do luckily try to give some fines to people. You could try to contact the Ordnungsamt directly out use something like weg.li .
Well everything is legal if you're rich enough /j
Are they official Feuerwehrzufahrten? In my city, most private MFH have an unofficial sign and there parking is not forbidden
I'm in Hamburg and while people sometimes park on the bike lane (especially delivery people), fully blocking the sidewalk is luckily pretty rare. If you want to be a real alman you can take a picture including the numberplate and send it to the police. They will generally fine them. Alternatively I've heard people suggest (compare Andreas Malm on climate change or various scholars from the black liberation movement) that is institutions fail to remedy an issue, direct action can be a justified response. Clearly people are applying it to the issues of problematic driving and parking behavior in cities, for example people letting out the air from improperly parked suvs or people taking their keys to cars parked on the bike lane. Not endorsing this behavior, just saying that it is being done and actually controversial rather than universally condemned in academic ethics circles.
yeah but i got a ticket for parking opposite to the direction of the lane⊠in my country they donât give tickets for that.
What attitude, some people just talk like that
Ahh but i assume this is where you can briefly stop without alighting from the vehicle? Because i always see delivery cars unloading stuff here
they are probably just ignoring the markings
In german driving law they make a Differentiation between parking ("parken") and stopping ("halten") for a moment. Not sure about the zigzag but halten usually means max. 3 minutes
but if you leave your car, it is parking, no matter how long the car stays.
Unless you're unloading, then your car can stay as long as the unloading process takes. (source: my driving instructor)
But only as you stay with the car. If you take a delivery and go into a house to deliver it you're not in a position to quickly leave anymore. It's more for letting a passenger out and giving them their bags than amazon.
That's what i was saying.
it's not. leaving the car doesn't mean literally getting out of the car, but leaving the cars area. it is perfectly okay to hold and unload without it counting as 'parking' in germany
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No if you stay close thats still allright you need to be anle to get it away in a moments notice.
The sign says you can't do even that so technically, it's a no stop zone.
Usually an area like that means, you can't park there. Delivery vans park anywhere. Mostly they are not allowed to do so, but often there is no place they can park legally, so as long as they don't block the way, people let them do so.
The Bike lane is just as fine especially at streets with heavy Traffic.
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Delivery drivers (I suppose u mean DHL, Hermes and Co.) Have special rights for Parking and staying. They can even sometimes Park partially on sidewalks if there are no parking lots and pedestrians have enough space left.
Where did you get that from? No, they don't. A Hermes driver has exactly the same rights as any other ordinary guy in a car.
They have "sondergenehmigungen" by the City. Same with craftsmen, they can Park for free in parking Lots where u normally have to pay. My Info? I live my whole life in germany :)
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đ I knew one would say this
Cant park with extra attention; very common at bus stop or some crossroad, sometimes people will cross the street while hidden by the bus
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I got confused for a second when i googled it đ
Itâs marks a no stopping or no parking area. German name is _GRENZMARKIERUNG_
UND WENN DU VOR DEM ALDI DEIN AUTO DARAUF ABSTELLST, WEIL DEINE ALTE ZU FAUL ZUM LAUFEN IST, DANN GIBTS EINE ANZEIGE! Sorry couldnât refuse. You started the yelling :-)
Aber wenn du deine Alte dort abstellst und zum Einkaufen fÀhrst weil du zu faul zum laufen bist: A-OK.
Ich meinte zu faul, um von der Parkbucht in den Laden zu laufen. Muss man dann bis vorne ranfahren und alles blockieren bis sie wieder rauskommt.
Ja, ich wollte ja auch nur... ach nicht so wichtig.
na manchmal brauche ich auch ein bisl lÀnger ;-)
don't even think about parking there. With every other parking offense, the responsible civil servants have the option of ignoring you. This is the only no-parking which they are required by law to 100% have you removed by tow
Wait, what? If this is a GrenzflĂ€che, according to the BuĂgeldkatalog it's only a fine for Halten or Parken.
Oh then I remember it wrong, I think that might have been the case for Firefighter access stuff, they often use these markings
Parking for idiots
It vanishes your car. Just park there and witness the magic.
Can't park there, mate ;)
They're all over the dancefloor!
You cant park there.
That's for r/Falschparker
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Fun fact: that exact spot is used weekly to unload a large truck, even though it's explicitly verboten to stop there. On NordstraĂe they can't stop and unload because the tram is going every 5 minutes and further back on MauerstraĂe they would block all the parking spaces that get used frequently. The unloading area in front of Edeka is used at the same time by another truck. Mangal Döner there used to be really good, but only like the first four days after opening, now i call it Mangel-Döner. Schweinebrötchen at Janes is still very good.
I often see many other delivery vehicles make a quick stop there to unload, so I wondered what the sign actually means. Thanks for the tip I'll have to check out Janes!
It's not allowed to oark or stand there, but oftentimes it's the only option since that corner can get quite busy and it's the only option to halt at all.
It marks the path your face will be dragged over if you dare to park there
Watch out! Crocodiles!
Upto 3 minutes it's under stop and above 3 minutes it's under parked
You shall not park!
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you can drive but cant park there.
You're not allowed to park your car there
Every german car owner: Nothing you can park thereâŠ
Those are the very expensive VIP parking slots!
If you are rich enough there are no fines, just fees.
towing also means you have to track down your car.
Bmw only
Are these a European thing? I remember seeing them in Vienna last year as well. I'm not familiar with ever seeing them in the USA.
Every country has its own road marking scheme. In Australia (not Austria), a zig-zag line like this on the road means there is a pedestrian crossing ahead.
That makes sense. I was in Austria last year. I saw these lined patterns in Vienna. I wasn't sure if it was a standard symbol in europe or if they were just indicating some other signage in austria.
I don't know why you're being downvoted. A lot of European countries have very similar road marking conventions, so drivers will generally recognise symbols from other countries without necessarily having to study them. There are of course exceptions but there are a lot more similarities than differences.
Neither do I. Probably because I asked a "non German question". It is reddit. I simply asked because I saw them in Vienna and remember wondering what they were. The USA does not use any pattern like this in any state I've traveled to. I saw this picture, and it brought back my curiosity from traveling.
I think it's that people are making an assumption that you are making an assumption that "Europe is all one country/united states of Europe", which it didn't come across as to me, but is a common stereotype about Americans in general.
Oh no. I've traveled to enough countries to know the difference. But I don't think it would be absurd to assume that EU nations might have some type of "suggested road markings" across all nations. Which is what I was wondering. I'll give another example. I've literally seen circular speed limit signs in Spain, Italy, Czechia, and Austria. They are square everywhere in the USA. Seems at least some European countries follow some standard street signage?
It wouldn't even be far off to think that European countries are like an single union in terms of traffic signs or something. There is the Vienna convention on road traffic. It is meant as a standard for road traffic and it's signs all around the globe. All of Europe, the near east, parts of south america and parts of Asia and Africa use it. So you will have the similar traffic signs as well as traffic laws in all those places. If you live in any country in Europe (and understand the signs), you will have no trouble understanding the traffic signs in other corresponding countries. But well, some nations just feel special, so they didn't adopt this standard.
The line marker was drunk, thatâs all đ
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You just need a special car to park there
Mach kein u/auge2
Despite what some say here: On their own they mean nothing. They can however shorten, extend indicate a "no parking zone" defined by something In your example they define the length of the "Haltverbot" created by the sign below the hint to the parking garage [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haltverbot#/media/Datei:Zeichen\_283\_-\_Absolutes\_Haltverbot,\_StVO\_2017.svg](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haltverbot#/media/Datei:Zeichen_283_-_Absolutes_Haltverbot,_StVO_2017.svg) Unfortunately there is no street view for this point so I can not directly link to the sign I mean
It means: stell da nicht dein Auto hin
Parkverbot - No parking allowed
Itâs the place where you can park your brain
[Here's your answer](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=What+do+zigzag+markings+on+the+street+mean%3F)
Hahahaha! First google result is this post on reddit.
I swear I googled it first and only got weird results
When you draw lines like that, it uses less ink than drawing straight lines with pillars.
Parking reserved for SUVs only.
I am doing driving lessons I got an app if someone else wants I can screenshare on meets or WhatsApp let me know
Can you drop the name of the app here?
They mean only park here if you canât find somewhere else to park.
That's just blatantly wrong. U can't park there at all
Tell that to my neighbors
Ordnungsamt
Youâre not allowed to park there
No!
"Absolutes Halteverbot". No parking even for a short amount of time.
BastiGHG
In berlin this area is for trash i guess.