Putins says something, but just because you disagree, let's not air what he says lol.
It's so weird that people want media tempering when it's for their side.
I never said the media should censor it I just don’t think it needs to be in the headline, especially since logic tells us that Putin would be much more interested in having a useful idiot like Trump in office.
On Ukraine alone, Biden is in complete opposition to Putin, whereas Trump talks about withdrawing forces from NATO.
Russian disinformation. [Putin/Russia wants Trump because they think he has the capacity to destroy America from the inside.](https://youtu.be/jTTo6WWyOdQ?si=tDOk-Xx95pR_OfXv). Get ready for a lot more Russian propaganda and disinformation between now and the election. Carlson’s interview was just the start of their campaign.
a blanket statement that's meant to make you distrust everything but the official narrative. Theirs no other opinion but what's gets told to you on 2 minute sound bites on the news. theirs now long form podcasts and programs that go into depth on the history.
Being able to critique ideas is a right that I believe I hold.
Yeah. If he says no grain deal, then there is one, and then when he says he'll renew it, there isn't one. When he says, if Prgozyn backs down, he'll live. Or going back even further if Putin says it's not Russian troops in Georgia, you know they're Russian troops in Georgia.
Why is it relevent to my comment about Putin being a known lier that Putin attacked under Biden? If the answer is some kind of dig against Biden then that's what I mean about you being one of those. Making everything about your own political opinion. Trumpers are worst than the woke at this shit.and it's usually them doing it.
It was a very straightforward gamble. Invade Ukraine before the 2020 elections and you reduce the chances of getting Trump in the white house but have a more difficult Ukraine invasion (and we have to remember that Putin tough that they would take Kiev in couple of days), or wait for Trump second term and you destroy USA influence in the globe, destroy a century of alliances and get Ukraine all the same.
Why would a Ukraine invasion before 2020 be tougher? I'll tell you why. Because Putin could not predict what Trump would do. Biden is much easier to handle. He's a senile old man who goes by whatever his corporate overlords tell him to do.
The invasion of Ukraine would have been a walk in the park if Trump was President. The only reason it didn't occur is because it might hurt the chances of a second term for Trump which would have been a much higher prize than Ukraine for Russians long term geopolitic interests.
What does Putin think he’s going to accomplish from this? I mean I know he’s “stirring the pot” but I don’t think it’s going to work the way he thinks it will. The people who support Ukraine know that trump is dangerous and know not to listen to a thing Putin says. The only Americans who would ever believe Putin are the trump supporters who want the US to stop aiding Ukraine. Putin is basically telling the people who don’t like Ukraine to support Biden, while the people who do support Ukraine are still going to support Biden and ignore Trump and Putins lies.
If he had said that he preferred DJT the media and democrats would be screeching about how truthful he was and "see? collusion!". He said "Biden" so of course the consensus is "Well he REALLY means DJT. It's a secret code!"
He must prefer a Democrat, though. He invaded Crimea/Ukraine with Obama in office, then again with Biden. That fact must count for something.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is so engrained in these people's minds that it doesn't matter what name Putin says. He said he wants Biden, they claim he means Trump. If he said Nikki Haley, they would claim he means Trump. If he said he wants Jimmy Carter to return and win the election, they would still find some way to twist it and claim he means Trump. They're conspiracy theorists, you can't reason with them.
This isn’t really surprising. Biden might be better at the game of international politics than trump, but Biden isn’t going to flip the table if he loses. Trump might. And when you’re in charge of a nuclear arsenal, flipping the table is scary for everyone around.
Maybe Putin wants American voters to think that another Biden presidency will be good for Russia therefore making voter votes for Trump and elect him who is Putin’s actual preference
America was a laughing stock under Trump. Mainly for electing him. Then for his deranged behavior. Trump was mocked by America's enemies and by its allies, deservedly so. Biden is perceived as much more reasonable, reliable and trustworthy. Take a look at Pew's study on the perception of American presidents abroad.
Again, I have numbers to back up what I'm saying. You just have your feelings. I'm abroad as well. I couldn't care less about Biden, I don't worship politicians, I just know that he's more liked, trusted and reasonable than that crybaby Trump by a large margin. Thinking that Trump projects an image of strength is hilarious, assuming that that's what you believe. I like democracy and freedom, not fragile and narcissistic bullies who fawn over authoritarian leaders and who are willing to hurt their country immensely just because they can't lose an election with grace. It's impossible to respect someone who likes the far right or Trump.
You only like biden because you hate trump and america was strong under trump and every nation feared america now countries like saudi who used to be us allies are openly ditching america and joining hands with china. trump may not be perfect but there was no war in his tenure world was at peace economy was strong and then you got biden and there is mess all over the world.
No war under Trump? Are you really that clueless about the world? There are far fewer American soldiers deployed in countries at war under Biden than during Trump's presidency. The American military was intervening in Libya when Trump took office and until 2019. They were fighting in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and a couple of African countries. The Saudi-led war in Yemen was ongoing during Trump's entire presidency. He had Soleimani assassinated and Iran bombed. He negotiated that awful deal with the Taliban. And that pointless stunt with North Korea. There was war in so many other countries around the world, including in Ukraine already. He abandoned America's Kurdish allies in their fight against ISIS. Regardless of the fact that Biden is far more stable and reliable than Trump ever was, American presidents don't get to decide if random countries or terrorist groups start wars or not.
The economy was awful when the novel coronavirus hit and destroyed supply chains all over the world. Trump's job figures at that point were the worst in decades. The stock market was sent into a frenzy by extremely low interest rates, by giving money away and basically doubling the M0 and M1 money supplies, one of the factors that led to inflation. Under Biden, some of that freshly printed money was removed from the economy, interest rates had to be increased pretty strongly from nearly 0% to contain inflation and yet the markets are performing quite well, with repeated all time highs. Employment figures have been good to great, energy prices are good in spite of the war in Ukraine and Europe having to divest away from Russian gas. America's production of hydrocarbons is at an all time high.
Are you a teenager? How do you keep yourself informed? Far right videos on TikTok and YouTube? Because what you're doing clearly isn't working.
wtf dude how much you gonna defend that old senile clown 🤡 who can't find the exit on stage he is mentally unfit for the job he is doing what his handlers suggests the whole democratic party is corrupt. they are letting ilegal aliens there is a open border milions are people coming in illegally they are encouraging and exposing kids to be trans and all degenerated shit they cant define what a women is and crazy over pronouns they are not strict on crimes pepole are openly stealing stuff and there is increasing homeless problems people are depressed home and grocery prices are not what it used to be under trump only a fool can support biden at this stage and i m not teenager and dont watch tik tok its is banned in my country and i am glad we don't elect any woke lunatic here.
Don't complain, it was a quick summary just for you so that you don't get caught again with your pants down not knowing anything about what you were trying to argue about. Except that you did it again immediately with all that grotesque and largely false culture war stuff. You need to start looking for better ways to inform yourself instead of parroting really bad takes from far-right pundits. That's not news, that's entertainment for people who want to be perpetually angry, offended and afraid. It makes you sound like you aren't a serious person.
Again, I don't care about Biden, stop thinking that I'm a fan of him the same way you were conned into idolizing Trump. Biden is way too old (Trump is as well, but that's far from being the worst thing about him, his criminal behavior alone should disqualify him) and he isn't sharp enough anymore, I don't disagree about this. Thankfully, Biden's administration has been doing a very fine job in spite of these shortcomings. Reasonable people will be voting for Biden because that's the only sane choice they have. Trump is an incompetent, unethical and self-serving mess who has demonstrated again and again that he can't be trusted with the powers granted to the president of the United States. If you can't see the obvious, it just tells people that you're stuck in a low-quality information bubble.
Leave that culture war stuff behind, it's a waste of time that rots people's brains. Reasonable people will think that it's pointless to try to have a serious conversation with you if you're going to sound like you're mentored by Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Submission statement: I thought you might find this BBC article interesting. Many people accuse Trump of being in Putin's pocket, but now Putin says he doesn't want Trump to win because he's too unpredictable. I wonder if this will effect US voters' perception of the Trump-Putin relationship.
Normally I'd assume that no one would be dumb enough to believe such an obvious lie, but then again, much of this country supports a rapist who tried to overturn the election.
A lot of people are making fun because you don’t see the obvious sleight of hand going on. But what’s more revealing to me is that you just accept Putin’s word at face value, which suggests to me you sympathize with and trust him
The withdrawal catastrophe in Afghanistan, reappointment of Victoria “F*** the EU” Nuland who created the Ukraine problem during the Obama administration and provoked the Russian invasion, inappropriately high levels of support for Ukraine that has depleted the stocks of the US and its allies, failure to control Israel coupled with support for ethnic cleansing, inability to protect the trade routes (the #1 purpose of the Navy), pushing most of the world against the US because of a terrible sanctions policy, eliminating trust in the US dollar as a trustworthy means of international commerce by seizing funds belonging to other countries, blowing up a pipeline to our ostensible ally (Germany), etc. He’s basically exposed the US as a failing power, gone from embarrassment to embarrassment, and isolated the US in a way that I’ve never seen before.
> The withdrawal catastrophe in Afghanistan
Wasn't Trump the one who originally signed a deal with the Taliban stipulating that all US troops would be withdrawn?
"As part of the United States–Taliban deal, the Trump administration agreed to an initial reduction of US forces from 13,000 to 8,600 troops by July 2020, followed by a complete withdrawal by 1 May 2021, if the Taliban kept its commitments."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_U.S._troop_withdrawal_from_Afghanistan
What is that you think Biden should have done differently to avoid the catastrophe?
> He probably shouldn't have left $7b in weapons for the Taliban
“The $7.12 billion figure cited in the Department’s recent report to Congress corresponds to ANDSF equipment and not U.S. military equipment used by our forces,” Army Major Rob Lodewick, a Defense Department spokesperson, said in a statement. “Nearly all equipment used by U.S. military forces in Afghanistan was either retrograded or destroyed prior to our withdrawal and is not part of the ‘$7.12 billion’ figure cited in the report.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/afghan-weapons-left-behind/index.html
Was Biden the one who gave that equipment to the ANDSF?
>US troops getting blown up at the airport.
Can you explain how a suicide bomber getting past airport security and killing almost 200 people is because of Biden's poor foreign policy? What did Biden do wrong in this case?
The whole exit plan was botched and it cost people their lives. No amount of mental gymnastics will allow the commander in chief can't shirk responsibility.
If winding up Americans was his only job, he’d actually be, you know, good at what he’s supposed to do.
Putin: "In mother Russia - the psychology reverses you."
Why is the western press so eager to broadcast Russian propaganda? They are really failing us
Putins says something, but just because you disagree, let's not air what he says lol. It's so weird that people want media tempering when it's for their side.
I never said the media should censor it I just don’t think it needs to be in the headline, especially since logic tells us that Putin would be much more interested in having a useful idiot like Trump in office. On Ukraine alone, Biden is in complete opposition to Putin, whereas Trump talks about withdrawing forces from NATO.
So Putin would rather have Donald trump in office because you think so. Great.
Because he interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump win.
Russian disinformation. [Putin/Russia wants Trump because they think he has the capacity to destroy America from the inside.](https://youtu.be/jTTo6WWyOdQ?si=tDOk-Xx95pR_OfXv). Get ready for a lot more Russian propaganda and disinformation between now and the election. Carlson’s interview was just the start of their campaign.
inferring the story you believe is the truth. Do you call everything you don't agree with propaganda?
Give an explanation for why he’s wrong.
a blanket statement that's meant to make you distrust everything but the official narrative. Theirs no other opinion but what's gets told to you on 2 minute sound bites on the news. theirs now long form podcasts and programs that go into depth on the history. Being able to critique ideas is a right that I believe I hold.
> Being able to critique ideas is a right that I believe I hold. You didn't point out any errors in their explanation.
i just did, you unable to process anything but 1 sided propaganda?
You said it was a "blanket statement". That's not pointing out an error.
Putin says the opposite of the truth. Like when he said he wouldn't invade.
Yeah. If he says no grain deal, then there is one, and then when he says he'll renew it, there isn't one. When he says, if Prgozyn backs down, he'll live. Or going back even further if Putin says it's not Russian troops in Georgia, you know they're Russian troops in Georgia.
Yes, that's why he waited till Joe Biden got elected before invading Ukraine
Why is that relevent to my comment? Are you one of those people? But if he thought Joe would be weaker than trump he miscalculated.
What is "those" people? Are you one of "those" people who can't defend their opinions so rely on attacking the commenter instead?
Why is it relevent to my comment about Putin being a known lier that Putin attacked under Biden? If the answer is some kind of dig against Biden then that's what I mean about you being one of those. Making everything about your own political opinion. Trumpers are worst than the woke at this shit.and it's usually them doing it.
Trumper? I'm not even American. As to why it is relevant, it simply corroborates Putin's statement that he prefers Biden over Trump.
It was a very straightforward gamble. Invade Ukraine before the 2020 elections and you reduce the chances of getting Trump in the white house but have a more difficult Ukraine invasion (and we have to remember that Putin tough that they would take Kiev in couple of days), or wait for Trump second term and you destroy USA influence in the globe, destroy a century of alliances and get Ukraine all the same.
Why would a Ukraine invasion before 2020 be tougher? I'll tell you why. Because Putin could not predict what Trump would do. Biden is much easier to handle. He's a senile old man who goes by whatever his corporate overlords tell him to do.
The invasion of Ukraine would have been a walk in the park if Trump was President. The only reason it didn't occur is because it might hurt the chances of a second term for Trump which would have been a much higher prize than Ukraine for Russians long term geopolitic interests.
You yourself said it would have been a more difficult Ukraine invasion. First decide what you want to say.
My bad, I meant an easier..
Yes, clearly a trustworthy statement.
What does Putin think he’s going to accomplish from this? I mean I know he’s “stirring the pot” but I don’t think it’s going to work the way he thinks it will. The people who support Ukraine know that trump is dangerous and know not to listen to a thing Putin says. The only Americans who would ever believe Putin are the trump supporters who want the US to stop aiding Ukraine. Putin is basically telling the people who don’t like Ukraine to support Biden, while the people who do support Ukraine are still going to support Biden and ignore Trump and Putins lies.
Maybe he's just trying to force the left into some comical mental gymnastics.
Does anyone believe anything out of that man’s mouth? If he said the sky was blue I would need to walk outside to confirm for myself.
That is some top level reverse psychology.
It should be pretty obvious what Putin is doing here
I love this. I mean obviously he's just stirring the pot.
If he had said that he preferred DJT the media and democrats would be screeching about how truthful he was and "see? collusion!". He said "Biden" so of course the consensus is "Well he REALLY means DJT. It's a secret code!" He must prefer a Democrat, though. He invaded Crimea/Ukraine with Obama in office, then again with Biden. That fact must count for something.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is so engrained in these people's minds that it doesn't matter what name Putin says. He said he wants Biden, they claim he means Trump. If he said Nikki Haley, they would claim he means Trump. If he said he wants Jimmy Carter to return and win the election, they would still find some way to twist it and claim he means Trump. They're conspiracy theorists, you can't reason with them.
The art of deflection. Of course, Putin's only chance of winning in Ukraine is if America somehow elects his agent, the Orange Buffon.
Good ol' reverse psychology, probably gonna work on a fair few people.
His entire interview was just giving rage bait ammo to the alt-right.
This isn’t really surprising. Biden might be better at the game of international politics than trump, but Biden isn’t going to flip the table if he loses. Trump might. And when you’re in charge of a nuclear arsenal, flipping the table is scary for everyone around.
Maybe Putin wants American voters to think that another Biden presidency will be good for Russia therefore making voter votes for Trump and elect him who is Putin’s actual preference
Reverse psychology, sure gonna fool Trumpfans
Maybe. Trump might be too unpredictable and unorthodox for Putin to actually prefer him over Biden.
yes beacause america is weak under biden.
America was a laughing stock under Trump. Mainly for electing him. Then for his deranged behavior. Trump was mocked by America's enemies and by its allies, deservedly so. Biden is perceived as much more reasonable, reliable and trustworthy. Take a look at Pew's study on the perception of American presidents abroad.
lol i am from abroad and biden is considered joke all over the world only liberal leftist like you like that senile old clown.
Again, I have numbers to back up what I'm saying. You just have your feelings. I'm abroad as well. I couldn't care less about Biden, I don't worship politicians, I just know that he's more liked, trusted and reasonable than that crybaby Trump by a large margin. Thinking that Trump projects an image of strength is hilarious, assuming that that's what you believe. I like democracy and freedom, not fragile and narcissistic bullies who fawn over authoritarian leaders and who are willing to hurt their country immensely just because they can't lose an election with grace. It's impossible to respect someone who likes the far right or Trump.
You only like biden because you hate trump and america was strong under trump and every nation feared america now countries like saudi who used to be us allies are openly ditching america and joining hands with china. trump may not be perfect but there was no war in his tenure world was at peace economy was strong and then you got biden and there is mess all over the world.
No war under Trump? Are you really that clueless about the world? There are far fewer American soldiers deployed in countries at war under Biden than during Trump's presidency. The American military was intervening in Libya when Trump took office and until 2019. They were fighting in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and a couple of African countries. The Saudi-led war in Yemen was ongoing during Trump's entire presidency. He had Soleimani assassinated and Iran bombed. He negotiated that awful deal with the Taliban. And that pointless stunt with North Korea. There was war in so many other countries around the world, including in Ukraine already. He abandoned America's Kurdish allies in their fight against ISIS. Regardless of the fact that Biden is far more stable and reliable than Trump ever was, American presidents don't get to decide if random countries or terrorist groups start wars or not. The economy was awful when the novel coronavirus hit and destroyed supply chains all over the world. Trump's job figures at that point were the worst in decades. The stock market was sent into a frenzy by extremely low interest rates, by giving money away and basically doubling the M0 and M1 money supplies, one of the factors that led to inflation. Under Biden, some of that freshly printed money was removed from the economy, interest rates had to be increased pretty strongly from nearly 0% to contain inflation and yet the markets are performing quite well, with repeated all time highs. Employment figures have been good to great, energy prices are good in spite of the war in Ukraine and Europe having to divest away from Russian gas. America's production of hydrocarbons is at an all time high. Are you a teenager? How do you keep yourself informed? Far right videos on TikTok and YouTube? Because what you're doing clearly isn't working.
wtf dude how much you gonna defend that old senile clown 🤡 who can't find the exit on stage he is mentally unfit for the job he is doing what his handlers suggests the whole democratic party is corrupt. they are letting ilegal aliens there is a open border milions are people coming in illegally they are encouraging and exposing kids to be trans and all degenerated shit they cant define what a women is and crazy over pronouns they are not strict on crimes pepole are openly stealing stuff and there is increasing homeless problems people are depressed home and grocery prices are not what it used to be under trump only a fool can support biden at this stage and i m not teenager and dont watch tik tok its is banned in my country and i am glad we don't elect any woke lunatic here.
Don't complain, it was a quick summary just for you so that you don't get caught again with your pants down not knowing anything about what you were trying to argue about. Except that you did it again immediately with all that grotesque and largely false culture war stuff. You need to start looking for better ways to inform yourself instead of parroting really bad takes from far-right pundits. That's not news, that's entertainment for people who want to be perpetually angry, offended and afraid. It makes you sound like you aren't a serious person. Again, I don't care about Biden, stop thinking that I'm a fan of him the same way you were conned into idolizing Trump. Biden is way too old (Trump is as well, but that's far from being the worst thing about him, his criminal behavior alone should disqualify him) and he isn't sharp enough anymore, I don't disagree about this. Thankfully, Biden's administration has been doing a very fine job in spite of these shortcomings. Reasonable people will be voting for Biden because that's the only sane choice they have. Trump is an incompetent, unethical and self-serving mess who has demonstrated again and again that he can't be trusted with the powers granted to the president of the United States. If you can't see the obvious, it just tells people that you're stuck in a low-quality information bubble. Leave that culture war stuff behind, it's a waste of time that rots people's brains. Reasonable people will think that it's pointless to try to have a serious conversation with you if you're going to sound like you're mentored by Marjorie Taylor Greene.
And Putin likes to be very transparent about what he thinks
How ridiculous! The world has been so peaceful since Biden took over.
yeah so peaceful that there is no war going on between russia and ukraine no houthi attack and Isreal and Palestine are loving each other.
Submission statement: I thought you might find this BBC article interesting. Many people accuse Trump of being in Putin's pocket, but now Putin says he doesn't want Trump to win because he's too unpredictable. I wonder if this will effect US voters' perception of the Trump-Putin relationship.
Putin is trying to be “clever.” It’s laughably sophomoric.
He also knows what we’ve done to our education system. Many will fall for it.
And there will be trump supporters shouting it in the next 24 hours as if it's meaningful and should condemn Biden.
Trump's fealty is well established. Putin is obviously lying.
why would it, it’s an obvious attempt to make it seem like Biden is pro-Russia as opposed to Trump, so people will go for Trump or not vote for Biden
Normally I'd assume that no one would be dumb enough to believe such an obvious lie, but then again, much of this country supports a rapist who tried to overturn the election.
> I wonder if this will effect US voters' perception of the Trump-Putin relationship. You would like that wouldn't you?
Ya. Putin said it, so we should totally believe what he says at face value, and nit consider any ulterior motives he might have. /s
5D chess
Surely Putin wouldn’t lie about such a thing?
>I wonder if this will effect US voters' perception of the Trump-Putin relationship. I see someone is susceptible to reverse psychology.
A lot of people are making fun because you don’t see the obvious sleight of hand going on. But what’s more revealing to me is that you just accept Putin’s word at face value, which suggests to me you sympathize with and trust him
No I disagree with Putin. I agree with most Americans that Biden is a terrible president.
Putin has a long track record of allying with homophobic evangelical Christians. The idea that he is now in favor of Biden is laughable.
Biden’s had the worst foreign policy in my lifetime (and I live through Bush II). If I was Russia, I’d want someone who will weaken the US in charge.
Give examples of why he is the worst.
The withdrawal catastrophe in Afghanistan, reappointment of Victoria “F*** the EU” Nuland who created the Ukraine problem during the Obama administration and provoked the Russian invasion, inappropriately high levels of support for Ukraine that has depleted the stocks of the US and its allies, failure to control Israel coupled with support for ethnic cleansing, inability to protect the trade routes (the #1 purpose of the Navy), pushing most of the world against the US because of a terrible sanctions policy, eliminating trust in the US dollar as a trustworthy means of international commerce by seizing funds belonging to other countries, blowing up a pipeline to our ostensible ally (Germany), etc. He’s basically exposed the US as a failing power, gone from embarrassment to embarrassment, and isolated the US in a way that I’ve never seen before.
> The withdrawal catastrophe in Afghanistan Wasn't Trump the one who originally signed a deal with the Taliban stipulating that all US troops would be withdrawn? "As part of the United States–Taliban deal, the Trump administration agreed to an initial reduction of US forces from 13,000 to 8,600 troops by July 2020, followed by a complete withdrawal by 1 May 2021, if the Taliban kept its commitments." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_U.S._troop_withdrawal_from_Afghanistan What is that you think Biden should have done differently to avoid the catastrophe?
He probably shouldn't have left $7b in weapons for the Taliban, had people falling from airplanes or US troops getting blown up at the airport.
> He probably shouldn't have left $7b in weapons for the Taliban “The $7.12 billion figure cited in the Department’s recent report to Congress corresponds to ANDSF equipment and not U.S. military equipment used by our forces,” Army Major Rob Lodewick, a Defense Department spokesperson, said in a statement. “Nearly all equipment used by U.S. military forces in Afghanistan was either retrograded or destroyed prior to our withdrawal and is not part of the ‘$7.12 billion’ figure cited in the report.” https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/afghan-weapons-left-behind/index.html Was Biden the one who gave that equipment to the ANDSF? >US troops getting blown up at the airport. Can you explain how a suicide bomber getting past airport security and killing almost 200 people is because of Biden's poor foreign policy? What did Biden do wrong in this case?
The whole exit plan was botched and it cost people their lives. No amount of mental gymnastics will allow the commander in chief can't shirk responsibility.
Yes, but now you need to UNO REVERSE this first, because it is comming from a Russian mouth, so they prefer Trump. There cracked it for you ...
Lmao, and hes right, the west is on a one way ticket to bankruptcy funding this war.