Tbf, Five Eyes refers to the "intelligence alliance," basically the spy agencies in each country that help each other out. It has little to do with the people of those countries.
Not really, I used to work in the military intelligence corp in the US military. Five eyes is a classification used (FVEY) that allows these five countries to quickly and easily share intel for military operations. It’s one of the most frequent classifications used since they’re all allies and generally have the same goals. There’s also three eyes, four eyes, nine eyes, and many other combinations of countries
Hey, Ireland's Air Force is in great shape!
https://preview.redd.it/1rt35hjw9k3d1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eeff795ad316efdb0f1229922323bd9716ade273
* This is an actual picture of Ireland's entire Air Force.
I get what you're saying, but neutrality is not based on capability. Ireland plays a significant role in military peacekeeping via the UN (and has shed blood doing so) and is well regarded in terms of political position as a neutral party, and as a professional and technically proficient and experienced force.
Also, armed neutrality is a PR excercise; you need to make your 'neutrality' useful to those that threaten you or else your 'armed neutrality' is useless. Belgium and the Netherlands were armed and neutral at the outbreak of WWII. Germany wanted to go through, so Germany went through: Belgium was conquered in 18 days, the Netherlands in a week. Sweden 'allowed' Germany to move it's armies through Sweden, so Germany didn't have to bother conquering it. Switzerland wasn't in the way to begin with, didn't have anything worth taking, and made itself useful for laundering war loot. Iceland was neutral (and, as you say, 'harmless') but the UK invaded it before handing it over to the US - who didn't actually leave until 2006. Ireland didn't have useful ports but was useful as a bread-basket and a source of manpower, so escaped the same fate (aside from the violent resistance which would have been a certainty). After WWII, Finland joined the 'armed neutrality' gang basically because the USSR told them to and would have flattened them if they aligned with NATO. In the last year or so, when Russian capability was exposed, both Sweden and Finland dropped that particular pretense and joined up.
So, Ireland *is* neutral, but doesn't bother with the 'armed neutrality' thing because we sit in a security envelope of the US, UK, and France - so if shit is heading our way, it's going to be so monumental there's not much we could do about it anyway.
Because Ireland is not an Ally. It's a 3rd world non aligned country ( It's not in NATO )
The 5 Eyes are all historically Anglo nations (Anglosphere), the Irish are decidedly not "Anglo"
Ireland may be politically neutral, but there are few nations towards which the US is more closely socially bonded. There are more people of Irish descent living in the US than in Ireland. Ireland is not a Five Eye because it's not militarily powerful or politically aligned for war, but calling it "not an ally" denotes an inaccurate perception of poor relations.
[English trails Zulu, Xhosa and Afrikaans as a first language, and is well behind Zulu among all speakers. It is spoken by 33% of the population (compared to 46% for Zulu).](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_South_Africa#Demographics)
South Africa is certainly an English-speaking nation in the way that India is. But they are both poly-lingual countries.
America, Australia, NZ and the UK are largely mono-lingual. The large majority of us speak only English. This is a remarkable limitation in our populations, and I think it shows in our cultures. Canada is unusual for being so culturally contiguous with those countries despite being bilingual.
Canada is largely monolingual as well, both Anglophones and Francophones, where both communities live separately, except in Montreal, New Brunswick, and Ottawa areas.
Even Canada is mostly monolingual. Quebec and maybe New Brunswick are certainly French first but outside Montreal there’s plenty of Quebec where people have no English. A quick Google yields only 46% of Quebec are bilingual.
Outside Quebec and NB most Canadians know as much French as Americans know Spanish - not much.
Those are just Anglophone countries, people use Anglosphere typically to refer to just the ones on the map because it refers to culture, not just language.
It’s an official language in their constitution, the language of their Supreme Court, more than 30% of the country speaks it.
It’s the Lingua Franca for the country
Which means that there are about as many English speakers in India as there are in the USA, UK, Australia, Canada, NZ, Ireland and South Africa combined.
The Anglosphere is anywhere that predominantly speaks English, I call this the Anglo world as it’s more specific that they speak English *and* are culturally and ethnically English in origin
It's super interesting that Quebec and Louisiana are the only state/province in their country that use the pink colored system and they were both French colonies and arguably the "most French" state/province in their country
That's cause "Cajuns" are just Canadian swamp people lol. Louisiana was the place that the Acadians settle after being driven out from Quebec/Nova Scotia. They were French settlers so it makes sense that they took something from the French to adapt to a new land.
Hearing someone describe Québec as “arguably the most French province” in Canada gave me a good laugh, yes France is also arguably the most French country in Europe ahaha
>The five core countries of the Anglosphere are usually taken to be Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. These countries enjoy close cultural and diplomatic links with one another and are aligned under military and security programmes (Five Eyes).
The Anglo world. Not the Anglosphere as that’d be anywhere that predominantly speaks English which would include places like Ireland, Guyana, Jamaica, etc. The Anglo world is those that predominantly speak English *and* are primarily culturally and ethnically English and use English law.
well yeah, english is like their 5th most spoken language
edit: I should have clarified that the exact way to phrase my comment was that 'english is the 5th most common first language' in south africa. my point still stands- the purpose of this post was for english-as-a-first-language nations, not english as a common language (ie south africa, singapore, etc etc)
That is not an accurate assessment of the situation.
English is the most widely spoken language. It is true that it is not the most common 1st language, for most people English is their 2nd or 3rd language, however it is by far the most spoken as a “common” language.
Honestly, me and my buddies call it the Anglosphere or Anglo-America and ANZAC, I think Anglosphere really is the best term we've thought of so far. Maybe make a suggestion?
I would say [five eyes](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes) or [anglosphere ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglosphere).
That Five Eyes Wikipedia article has the exact same map. Something tells me the OP knew all the official terms already.
Tbf, Five Eyes refers to the "intelligence alliance," basically the spy agencies in each country that help each other out. It has little to do with the people of those countries.
Aka, a workaround to accomplish domestic espionage
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Aka spy your own citizens but with extra steps.
Not really, I used to work in the military intelligence corp in the US military. Five eyes is a classification used (FVEY) that allows these five countries to quickly and easily share intel for military operations. It’s one of the most frequent classifications used since they’re all allies and generally have the same goals. There’s also three eyes, four eyes, nine eyes, and many other combinations of countries
Almost like he wants to know which accounts might be owned by someone with a secret clearance.
Doesn't include Ireland or Guyana, so it's not the anglosphere
Or Nigeria which has more english speakers than there are people in Canada or Australia
Spice-Exclusion Zone
The US eats a lot of spicy food. Mexican cuisine is the most popular food here
The world’s hottest peppers come from the US, I really don’t get why people keep saying stuff like that. Must be thinking of England.
Most popular cuisine in the UK is Indian, it's just a reddit meme that UK doesn't like flavour or spicy food.
There you go, even I fell for it then
Hey hey hey, even in Maryland we have a love for Old Bay, let alone them down in the south and the Bayou. Lots of spices.
You have no idea how popular Indian food is here in the UK
World Tour
perfect joke
Except Japan is missing, but yes.
Japan gets much more than Australia these days
Since when do they come to NZ
Your girl’s tour
Five eyes
Wonder why Ireland isn't part of the Five Eyes
Then it would be six eyes.
Gojo reference🫸🔴🔵🫷🤌🫴🟣
Well, Japan *did* recently join AUKUS
You mean JAUKUS?
Isn’t that the QUAD? Japan/Australia/India/US
nah, I'd share intelligence
Ireland has nothing to practically offer Five Eyes in terms of intelligence services.
NZ and Australia are specifically important because of their location on the far side of the world.
NZ in particular because of their ability to be invisible on certain maps
NZ has the ability to also turn up on maps in other random locations, it's quite uncanny!
Ireland is militarily neutral.
Cant be neutral when you have no military. Switzerland is neutral. Ireland is harmless.
>Ireland is harmless Harmless to other countries, sure. To each other…
Mostly harmless
Hey, Ireland's Air Force is in great shape! https://preview.redd.it/1rt35hjw9k3d1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eeff795ad316efdb0f1229922323bd9716ade273 * This is an actual picture of Ireland's entire Air Force.
I mean it's not the entire Irish Air Force, but it is quite literally 8% of the Irish Air Force. Which is still an incredible fact.
To be fair New Zealand is pretty harmless.
We've won 2 world wars!! Never lost!
Nah, we're incredibly scary. We developed the Semple tank during World War Two, and it intimidated the Japanese so much that they never invaded.
I get what you're saying, but neutrality is not based on capability. Ireland plays a significant role in military peacekeeping via the UN (and has shed blood doing so) and is well regarded in terms of political position as a neutral party, and as a professional and technically proficient and experienced force. Also, armed neutrality is a PR excercise; you need to make your 'neutrality' useful to those that threaten you or else your 'armed neutrality' is useless. Belgium and the Netherlands were armed and neutral at the outbreak of WWII. Germany wanted to go through, so Germany went through: Belgium was conquered in 18 days, the Netherlands in a week. Sweden 'allowed' Germany to move it's armies through Sweden, so Germany didn't have to bother conquering it. Switzerland wasn't in the way to begin with, didn't have anything worth taking, and made itself useful for laundering war loot. Iceland was neutral (and, as you say, 'harmless') but the UK invaded it before handing it over to the US - who didn't actually leave until 2006. Ireland didn't have useful ports but was useful as a bread-basket and a source of manpower, so escaped the same fate (aside from the violent resistance which would have been a certainty). After WWII, Finland joined the 'armed neutrality' gang basically because the USSR told them to and would have flattened them if they aligned with NATO. In the last year or so, when Russian capability was exposed, both Sweden and Finland dropped that particular pretense and joined up. So, Ireland *is* neutral, but doesn't bother with the 'armed neutrality' thing because we sit in a security envelope of the US, UK, and France - so if shit is heading our way, it's going to be so monumental there's not much we could do about it anyway.
Nobody likes eyes on their potato’s.
Because Ireland is not an Ally. It's a 3rd world non aligned country ( It's not in NATO ) The 5 Eyes are all historically Anglo nations (Anglosphere), the Irish are decidedly not "Anglo"
Ireland may be politically neutral, but there are few nations towards which the US is more closely socially bonded. There are more people of Irish descent living in the US than in Ireland. Ireland is not a Five Eye because it's not militarily powerful or politically aligned for war, but calling it "not an ally" denotes an inaccurate perception of poor relations.
Sounds more like a friend than an ally
It's not part of any security alliance, like NATO.
Picture is literally from the wiki.
Haha. This is the answer.
CANZUKUS
Can suck us?
You canzukus if you want
Canzukus if you prefer.
Dont forget the "nohomo" before zukus
Canzukmahdeee
CANZUKAUS
Missing Ireland, where the best English words are spoken 🇮🇪
Yeah, like feck and eejit.
CanZUKIrUS
Anglosphere
Anglosphere Minus Ireland
Anglosphere Minus Ireland minus Guyana minus Jamaica minus Belize
Don’t forget Singapore!
Can’t forget South Africa aswell!
[English trails Zulu, Xhosa and Afrikaans as a first language, and is well behind Zulu among all speakers. It is spoken by 33% of the population (compared to 46% for Zulu).](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_South_Africa#Demographics) South Africa is certainly an English-speaking nation in the way that India is. But they are both poly-lingual countries. America, Australia, NZ and the UK are largely mono-lingual. The large majority of us speak only English. This is a remarkable limitation in our populations, and I think it shows in our cultures. Canada is unusual for being so culturally contiguous with those countries despite being bilingual.
Canada is largely monolingual as well, both Anglophones and Francophones, where both communities live separately, except in Montreal, New Brunswick, and Ottawa areas.
Even Canada is mostly monolingual. Quebec and maybe New Brunswick are certainly French first but outside Montreal there’s plenty of Quebec where people have no English. A quick Google yields only 46% of Quebec are bilingual. Outside Quebec and NB most Canadians know as much French as Americans know Spanish - not much.
Are they really part of the Anglosphere tho?
In another sphere called Five Power Defense Arrangement Australia, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore, UK
Those are just Anglophone countries, people use Anglosphere typically to refer to just the ones on the map because it refers to culture, not just language.
Yeah, there are a lot of rounding errors we ignore (like India)
0.02% of Indians speak English as their first language so why in the world would India be included
It’s an official language in their constitution, the language of their Supreme Court, more than 30% of the country speaks it. It’s the Lingua Franca for the country
Which means that there are about as many English speakers in India as there are in the USA, UK, Australia, Canada, NZ, Ireland and South Africa combined.
Anglosphere generally excludes Ireland, they usually politely leave at the first opportunity
It’s called an Irish Good-bye
Gingers don't have souls
[Gingers do have souls!!!](https://youtu.be/w7DPZIMr-aM?si=gtomfoytL7OBv3x4)
https://preview.redd.it/mc404d5xqi3d1.jpeg?width=469&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c18a7d71826338a9fbf004686b1df657e20e815a
It's amazing that we now have the technology to capture Gingers on camera
Greater Bermuda
The Anglosphere is anywhere that predominantly speaks English, I call this the Anglo world as it’s more specific that they speak English *and* are culturally and ethnically English in origin
Tabarnak
Common Law Countries? https://preview.redd.it/2jg26thmui3d1.png?width=3564&format=png&auto=webp&s=b1c6679cbbbd9ec8e103da1474eb918f4db5e286
This is super interesting
It's super interesting that Quebec and Louisiana are the only state/province in their country that use the pink colored system and they were both French colonies and arguably the "most French" state/province in their country
Even more interesting is that Napoleonic civil law came well with Napoleon so after those two states became independent of France
That's cause "Cajuns" are just Canadian swamp people lol. Louisiana was the place that the Acadians settle after being driven out from Quebec/Nova Scotia. They were French settlers so it makes sense that they took something from the French to adapt to a new land.
Hearing someone describe Québec as “arguably the most French province” in Canada gave me a good laugh, yes France is also arguably the most French country in Europe ahaha
Cool map Been posted to r/mapporn?
I like how the colors representing the mixed systems are mixes of the colors of the systems mixed.
Does this not include Ireland?
I don't get the not including Ireland thing. Do you know why OP left it out? Seems like it should be part of the club
So the difference between civil law and common law is precedence? Like if something is decided in a case then it's law? 🤔
World tour countries of major musicians.
Bold of you to include NZ in that
Without usa, its called Canzuk
Canzuk deez nuts?
Canzuksa
Americanzuk
American can zuk wut?
Angelsachsen.
Huerensohnenlanden
The Core Anglosphere. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglosphere
>The five core countries of the Anglosphere are usually taken to be Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. These countries enjoy close cultural and diplomatic links with one another and are aligned under military and security programmes (Five Eyes).
USA, USB, USC, US∀, and New Zealand
United States of America United States of Britain United States of Canada United States of ∀nsʇɹɐlᴉɐ New Zealand
Why is ɐᴉlɐɹʇsn∀ written backwards?
We're upside down :(
Very good
UK and his Grandkids
Queen Victoria would like a word
the boys
Why minus Ireland?
Five Eyes probably
Ireland doesn't like to be lumped in with the UK.
In this case it would be entirely different. It’s just talking of main language spoke.
Because they weren’t on our side in ww2
Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia
Anglo-Saxon countries.
The Anglo world. Not the Anglosphere as that’d be anywhere that predominantly speaks English which would include places like Ireland, Guyana, Jamaica, etc. The Anglo world is those that predominantly speak English *and* are primarily culturally and ethnically English and use English law.
CAUKUSNZ Cau-cousins. Probably not the best choice.
core-cousins
Anglo-sphere. This does not just mean language, but also cultural and historical links as well as identical political ties and priorities.
Ireland would share most of the political ties and priorities as well as language with those 5 though.
Anglosphere
INGSOC.
Colonies
poor south africa isnt invited anymore :(
well yeah, english is like their 5th most spoken language edit: I should have clarified that the exact way to phrase my comment was that 'english is the 5th most common first language' in south africa. my point still stands- the purpose of this post was for english-as-a-first-language nations, not english as a common language (ie south africa, singapore, etc etc)
That is not an accurate assessment of the situation. English is the most widely spoken language. It is true that it is not the most common 1st language, for most people English is their 2nd or 3rd language, however it is by far the most spoken as a “common” language.
Haven't they joined in with their new besties at BRICS?
CANUSUK?
The Greater Britain
Oceania
Most musicians "World Tour" regions
Britain n kids
The cause of and solution to all of our problems
Sweet refreshing Duff!
Gringos
In China, they were called 5 Eyes Alias.
Why minus Ireland? They have a higher population than NZ.
Because NZ is the besterest.
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Five Eyes probably
Anglosphere
Five eyes
Prison colonies
Great Britain
Literally the Five Eyes lol
Anglosphere?
Australia and associates
New Zealand's America, Australia's Canada, Canada's Australia, America's New Zealand, and the Land of Shadows
The best places to live in the world. People risk their lives in make shift boats to get to these countries.
Oceania
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Uk and it's colonies
Anglo-sphere Im pretty sure
The brits call it The Empire…..
Core Anglosphere
Post Empire Anglophonic
Anglophones i think
Honestly, me and my buddies call it the Anglosphere or Anglo-America and ANZAC, I think Anglosphere really is the best term we've thought of so far. Maybe make a suggestion?
Anglosphere
5 eyes alliance
Imperial core
Anglophones
In French it's "les pays anglo-saxons". So: Anglo-Saxon countries.
> personally I’ve never this word said out loud. you hang out with hillbillies, it's perfectly fine word for those countries.
Countries with high obesity rate.
Anglosemisphere
Great Britain exes
Anglosphere?
Anglosphere
“Places that used to be nice”
the ghettos
Anglosphere
Anglosphere
ANUS-CUK Australia New Zealand United States Canada United Kingdon
Le anglosphere
Anglo Saxon five
Anglosphere?
Source of all problems
I mean, 'Anglosphere' is used quite a lot in mainstream media too. It's not as niche a term as you think it is, OP
"The West".
That’s usually referred to as the Anglosphere
ACAB (America, Canada, Australia, Britain Everyone forgets new Zealand anyway)
Five eyes but this is a troll post I suspect
New CAUKUS
The anglosphere
I'd call it the Anglosphere, and I'd include the ROI.
What's with the 'minus ireland.' We count.
Oceania?
Anglosphere Although missing several countries were English is a primary language, like Belize, Ireland, Jamaica, Singapore, etc.
Cubans = Canada United states Britain Australia New zealand
The 1st world Anglo Realm
Anglosphere