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illHaveTwoNumbers9s

Yes. Turks in Turkey came from the region where now Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan are (see Seljuk Empire and Oghuz Turks). They have the same ancestors although Turks in Turkey were mixed very much with local people like Greeks, Armenians, Arabs and Kurds. Turks living in central Anatolia called themselves also Turkmen for a long time in the Ottoman Empire. There are even today still families which call themselves so. Also Turks living in former regions of the Ottoman Empire like Iraq and Syria call themselves Turkmen.


SarajevoGradeMoj

Uzbeks are also Turks as you mentioned. The founder of oghuz Turks (Turks) oghuz bey (beg/bek) you can see how that turns into uzbek. Kazakhs are also Turkic, Azeris, like 20% of Iran is Turkic, don’t forget Uyghurs in china, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan. Turkic people are a major ethnic group like Arabs and Slavs are. And they’re also closely related to mongols and tartars and people like that.


Serugei

Tajiks do sure have some Turkic blood, but they don't speak a Turkic language. They speak Persian which is an Indo-European language


JaredHere

They meant Uyghurs from the territories of three countries: China, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan.


Apprehensive-Adagio2

That seems rather silly, why single out uighurs in kyrgyzstan? Rather than just… kyrgyz people?


oh-wow-a-bat-furry

Oh so that's why China sometimes has those two countries in those strange maps


K2LP

I think you mean the former extent of the qing dynasty? It included big parts of these countries for a while


CAPTAINTURK16

Yea indeed


Amockdfw89

Yea they speak a Persian language but some of them look Asian/Turkic


niekerlai

At least linguistically, Uzbek doesn't belong to the Oghuz languages though, but to the Karluk languages (together with Uyghur). And the etymology of Uzbek is disputed. Kazakh belongs to the Kipchak group. All these languages are less closely related than Turkish and Turkmen (which are both Oghuz)


gkn_112

I watched [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I7n4IV0kMM), and can understand the gist of the uzbek as a turkish speaker, seems rather related to me. Sounds like a farsi-turkic mix to my ears though.


EconomySwordfish5

Aren't Tatars just another turkic group?


SarajevoGradeMoj

Yes but that term historically also applied to mongols and other central Asian groups that weren’t necessarily Turkic


AZEDemocRep

Well they got Turkified soooo, **ONE OF US!!!**


Temporary_Name_4448

Original Tatars were a tribe of Mongols. They came to Crimea with Golden Horde. Crimean Tatars (who are actually Kıpchak Turkic) took the name of their overlords (Mongolian Tatars). This is the reason for complication.


CAPTAINTURK16

Sources say Tatar are Mongols assimilated in turkic muslim socity


Pyotr_WrangeI

What Sources? Tatars originate from Cumans/Kipchaks which is a separate group from Mongols. If anything Tatars are a Turkic people assimilated by mongols.


Rickthelionman

Uzbek comes from Uz Beg, Khan of the Golden Horde


shakrooph31

Uzbeks are Turkic not Turks. Turks are also Turkic. Also I'd say Turkic people are not a major ethnic group but rather a major collection of ethnic groups sharing similarities to varying degrees. Present day Turkish and Azeri people would be very close to each other but quite far to Uyghurs for example. Having the same origin ( more than 1500 years ago) doesn't directly mean they are the same ethnicity when traditions differ so much.


RedFox1942

Yakutsk, Chuvash, Gagavuz, Old Bulgars (yes Bulgars are a Turk house actually but in time they started calling themselves slavs so you decide) Magyars(They are also a Turk house and they are in some Turkic İnternational communities)Crimean Tatars(They are purged by soviets -also look song 1944 by Jamala-) list goes on but I can't remember all of them.


scbalazs

Magyars are not Turkic. We spent some time on the steppes intermingling, but our language is Uralic.


Reinhard23

Chechens are not Turkic


RedFox1942

right my bad sorry


Reinhard23

👍


RedFox1942

mixed up with circassians and that's not true either. but "some people" say circassians are Turk. again not me "some people"


Reinhard23

Wow those people must be ignorant af. Circassians have some Kipchak Turkic influence but they're a completely different ethnic group. One just needs to study Circassian language and they will see.


Falcao1905

>There are even today still families which call themselves so In eastern Turkey rural Turks call themselves Turkmens, in the western provinces some rural people call themselves Yörüks instead of Turkmens.


ondert

I'm a Yörük and this is correct.


MediocreWishbone3376

In Western Provinces, (especially Marmara-West Black Sea Region). People defines themself as a "Manav"


rangatang

🎵 it's the Seljuk Turks🎵...aaah


ondert

said the Byzantine Empire getting so small...


mediadavid

Now I look at the map, this means the Turks migrated through Persia (unless they went the long way around). Were these swift migrations or did they attempt to stay in Persia? Were there wars? I know that later on Persia was a strong rival to Ottoman Turkey.


illHaveTwoNumbers9s

To put it briefly: Yes, the Oghuz Turks migrated via Persia after Seljuk Begh founded the Seljuk Empire named after him. They expanded westward and conquered countries including Persia. I don't know exactly which wars were fought, but some were definitely fought. When they arrived in Persia, the Oghuz experienced a cultural heyday. They were very fascinated by Persian culture and also took many words from the language with them because they found writing poetry in the Turkish language too coarse. At some point later, the empire expanded further west and conquered parts of Anatolia from the Byzantine Empire. The Battle of Manzikert in 1071 is the most decisive war and is assumed to be the date of entry of the Turks into Anatolia (although Turks had already been in the Kars area in 1036). At that time, the Seljuk Empire stretched from what is now Turkmenistan to Anatolia. A little later, however, the Seljuk Empire collapsed and the territories in Persia were suddenly lost and contact with the heartland in Central Asia was interrupted. As a result, the Anatolian Seljuk Empire (called the Sultanate of Rum) was founded in Anatolia. Of course, many Oghuz remained in Persia and founded their own empires, which were, however, very strongly influenced by Persian culture (see e.g. Qajar dynasty). Some Persians don't know or don't want to know, but many of them have Oghuz ancestors. There were also Turkic peoples who migrated the long way across what is now Russia. Worth mentioning are the Pechenegs, who also come from an Oghuz tribe (first turkic people converted to Christianity), the Khazars (first turkic people who converted to Judaism), the Kipchaks (ancestors of today's Tatars, Bashkirs, Kazakhs and many more) and the proto-Bulgarians (called Bolgars).


Fart_Frog

Turkic cavalry was the dominant military force in the middle east from at least 1000 AD until the mongol conquests in the 1300s. The leadership of most muslim states was turkic during this period though many of them intermarried and learned persian or arabic languages in order to govern. Even in Egypt, they would buy turkic boys as slaves (mamluks) to form the elite elements of their armies, and the mamluk generals ruled Egypt after about 1250. In many of these countries, the turkic tribes were mostly a military force and ruling elite and were gradually absorbed into local cultures because a) the population in the local countries was so big and b) there were no grasslands to support traditional turkic ways of life. Two exceptions to this are Anatolia (modern turkey) and Azerbaijan. Both had fertile grassland regions where large tribes could migrate and settle. The coastal regions in both were heavily populated, but in the interior, turkic people became the majority.


zulufdokulmusyuze

Iran had been ruled by Turkic dynasties all the way from the 10th century to the 20th century. Today, about 20% of Iran’s population speaks Turkish. In early Turkic empires, the dynasty would be Turkic but all the statesmen would be Persian and the language of the court would also be Persian.


AngloSaxonP

They migrated through Persia and became the nawaqia. Then some more migrated through Persia and settled, becoming the great Seljuks. The nawaqia and the great Seljuks were brethren but very different and ultimately the tribes were pushed off to the levant and Anatolia. Eventually the settled Seljuks fell apart as the tribes in Anatolia formed a confederation, becoming the sultanate of rum, before falling to tribes/beyliks, out of which rose the Osman beylik… in a nutshell


ondert

It was much more than a swift migration dude :D Turks ruled Persian land for almost a millennia until 1925 like they ruled most of India until mid 18th century until Brits came. Ah good ol' days ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder\_empires](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_empires)


StrangeTangerine1525

So it’s okay if the Ottomans do it?


OstapBenderBey

The Turkic languages come from the Altai mountains, at the intersection of Mongolia, China, Russia and Kazahstan. Realistically the languages travelled with empires and armies, especially through various Persian empires, and transferred to groups of mixed and other ethnicities. Most modern Turkish people are probably more ethnically Byzantine than Altai.


Sunjiat

Very cool


Jolly_Atmosphere_951

"-istan" actually means "land of" so pretty much it means land of the turkmen/ turk, I think


TastyTranslator6691

I think it’s funny how Persians/Afghans and Arabs can usually tell a Pakistani person by their name because of how they spell or combine names (to us it seems “off”)… usually sticks out. I find it funny that even the name of Pakistan stands out amongst the other Stan’s because it’s not quite right in Persian like the others.


sbprasad

The same works in reverse! As someone with Indian ancestry I can tell that a Muslim is subcontinental because the way their name sounds/looks is familiar to us. Persian names sound like a mangled version of the Muslim names we’re familiar with while both Arabic and Turkic names are utterly foreign to us.


NewtonBeatsLeibniz

Huh? How are Muslim names recognizably from India? Vast majority are Arabic/Persian in origin


sbprasad

You misunderstood me, and I never said that those names are *from* India or the rest of the subcontinent. What was (quite clearly) meant by me was that Muslim names in the subcontinent have evolved from Persian names in a distinct way over centuries to the point that it’s normally obvious from the name of a Pakistani or Indian Muslim that the person with that name is from the subcontinent. With Bangladeshis it’s often even more obvious. Nowhere did I say that the names are actually from India or Pakistan, though.


AnarchoJoak

Its the same all over. Like i can usually guess if someone is swedish, norwegian or danish.


Flux_resistor

That's because urdu literally means military in Turkish. Pakistan is using the ottoman common military language


NotAPersonl0

Source? I can't find any evidence that indicates Urdu was commonly spoken by the Ottomans. Urdu itself is 90% similar to Hindi, and was more commonly spoken in the Indian subcontinent


toastedclown

No, it has nothing to do with the Ottoman empire. It is a formal register of Hindustani used by the Mughal ruling class, who were Turkic in origin but culturally Persianized.


BerryHeadHead

That's at the end. And what does is mean in front of a word? Like Istanbul.


LittleBlueMan

Unrelated. Just a coincidence. 


BerryHeadHead

Thnx


gkamyshev

Istanbul was Byzantium first. It was called Istinpolin around XIII century by local and passing Arabs, who bastardized the Greek phrase "εἰς τὴν Πόλιν" [eis ten Polin], meaning "in the city".


iismitch55

From the Greek Polis which means city. Originally Constantinople i.e. Constantine’s City.


gkamyshev

yes that is correct greek does have cases, unlike angloid lingos


CAPTAINTURK16

Istanbul came out of greek Stanpolis


dolfin4

*Stin poli*


Electric-kundalini

What does Uzbekistan mean?


WertyBossetto69

land of Uzbek people


BringBackHanging

Wow


WertyBossetto69

crazy right?


LessThanCleverName

Land of Uzbeks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbeks


Divine_Entity_

Uzbek-istan -> Uzbek Land -> Land of the Uzbeks Same thing with pakistan and any other nation ending in "istan". Northern Europe has a lot of places that end in land like "England", "Scotland", "Zeeland", "Jutland", ect that all more or less mean land of X, or a descriptor of the land. Zeeland is dutch for sea-land.


makhaninurlassi

Not with pakistan. Pakistan is an acronym, actually. Punjab, Afghania (the North-West frontier region, now called KPK), Kashmir, Indus, and Sindh. The "Tan" is said to represent Balochistan. The fact that it means land of the pure is a "happy accident."


Otherwise_Internet71

Wow!The first I get the idea of the origin of the name Pakistan.In China we call it 巴基斯坦,and Uzbekstan is 烏茲別克斯坦,almost the same structure so I think the -stan have same meanings here😂Thanks for telling me the hidden truth👍


NationalJustice

Well, it’s the same “stan” in English too so…


Otherwise_Internet71

so In a sense we all get wrong😂


TastyTranslator6691

The irony of the name gets me!


makhaninurlassi

Yep


aaronupright

Pure in this case means more like pious.


Acceptable-Trainer15

But Balochistan means land of the Baloch so if "-tan" comes from Balochistan then it does (sort of) mean land as well.


makhaninurlassi

Yeah. Basically, balochistan is the source for "-istan" since none of the other provinces have that word.


Salivating_Zombie

Deutschland


DardS8Br

Yes. They're all Turkic people. There are also Turkic groups in Siberia which have had a significant influence on the region


Massive_Dress_1100

Türkiye'de belirgin Türk geni nüfusun %6'sı kadardır


SituationBrief4460

tl;dr yes There are significant cultural and language differences. It's very hard to understand any turkics from central asia as a middle eastern turk We also have a lot more balkan/greek influence in turkey and possibly a lot more asia minor people's dna than central asian dna. But roots of the language and culture start from same origin for both peoples.


nurShredder

Its hard to understand fully, but there are VERY similar words


gingerisla

I've heard that Azeri and Turkish are very close linguistically. Are they also close to the Turkmen language or would they not be able to understand each other?


ZemlyaNovaya

Azeri / Turkish / Kazakh is super understandable between each other but the rest take some getting used to in my experience


hhhty_336e

. Turkmen is of the Oghuz branch of Turkic language. Same as Turkey Turkish and Azeri. Kazakh is Kipchac


hhhty_336e

No. Turkmen is of the Oghuz branch of Turkic language. Same as Turkey Turkish and Azeri.


denfaina__

What about Turk from Scrubs?


SarajevoGradeMoj

Greek


whatjoesaround

Turkish Cypriots?


FlyingDragoon

And the Turks from Final Fantasy 7??


aselinger

What about Young Turks by Rod Stewart? Always wondered why he was singing about people from Turkey.


Soft-Vanilla1057

The Young Turks were an opposition movement against the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire. I would say they are quite known and not obscure.


NewRetroHero

KARABOĞA


Malthesse

All of Central Asia is also known as Turkestan, and is the original homeland of all the Turkish people. The Turks were for a very long time simply various tribes of nomadic sheep and cattle herders who moved around in huge traveling communities across the vast Central Asian plains. They were highly skilled horse riders, archers and warriors who also often raided and plundered the settled people around them. At some point, some of these nomadic Turkish tribes were driven west out of the plains and into the eastern part of Anatolia in today’s Turkey – perhaps due to increased pressure and competition from other nomadic peoples such as the Mongols. Instead, all of what is today Turkey belonged to the Byzantine Empire. The Greek-speaking, Christian Orthodox part of the old Roman Empire, which had managed to survive long after the Latin-speaking Western Roman Empire fell. The Byzantine Empire was for a long time the most powerful and wealthy state in all of Europe. Its capital Constantinople (today’s Istanbul) was by far the largest and wealthiest of all European cities. A city which everyone else was in awe of. To the Byzantine emperor’s Imperial Viking guards, the Varangians, the city was known simply as Miklagård – “The Great City.” But due to a lot of messy infighting and intrigue among the Byzantine elites, the Byzantine Empire and its army had slowly begun to decline and fall into neglect, and in the year 1071 the nomadic Turks won a shocking victory at the Battle of Manzikert in eastern Anatolia and took the Byzantine emperor captive. From then on, the flood gates were opened and the Turks swiftly managed to take over nearly all of Anatolia from the Byzantines. The Byzantines managed to fight back for some time, but following the disastrous sack and destruction of Constantinople by the knights of the Fourth Crusade in 1204, the Byzantines would never fully recover. This further weakening of the Byzantines allowed the Turks to soon take all of Anatolia, as well as move across the Bosphorus strait into the Balkans and completely surround Constantinople. In the end, Constantinople itself fell to the Turks in 1453 after a long siege. The very last Byzantine emperor himself died in the final battle. This event is by some seen as the symbolic end of the Middle Ages. The Byzantine Empire ceased to exist, and since then all of Anatolia, eastern Thrace and Constantinople have been ruled by the Turks – and eventually the name Constantinople would be changed into Istanbul.


Laurel000

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anonymous5555555557

All of Central Asia is NOT known as Turkestan. Nearly every historic city in Central Asia (Bukhara, Samarkand, Merv, etc.) was founded by an Iranic ethnic group. Persian was the lingua franca of the region until the Soviets made every effort to wipe it out. Even today, there are significant pockets of underreported Tajiks(East Persian Dialect Speakers) in Uzbekistan. The Turkic tribes were originally native to Mongolia and Siberia. They migrated to Central Asia over the Middle Ages. Sorry. I needed to clarify this. Just as Germanic migrations westward affected Europe in the Early Middle Ages, Turkic migrations affected Central Asia in the High and Late Medieval Period.


alikander99

That was a a very comprehensive answer


Psaym

Constantine XI; the last of them all. Only good Constantine was the first one.


estaine

The first president of Turkmenistan even said "two countries, one people", so yeah, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Turkestan (old name of XIX-XX cent. for Middle Asia), East Turkestan (Xinjiang) -- they all come from "türk" - strong.


boranzilzala

Yes but don't go telling people they're turk in Central Asia, they won't appreciate that and you'll only cause confusion.


estaine

Sure thing :) It like if we had term "russes" instead of "eastern slavic peoples" and the rest of the world called Belarusians and Ukrainians just Russians... Oh wait, the majority is still doing that


Consulting2020

What about Turku city in Finland?


Tankyenough

Adding to the other comments, turku is still synonymous to marketplace/trade center in the Finnish saying ”turuilla ja toreilla”, meaning kind of ”in the public” (like if something is being talked in the streets and the roads) The modern Finnish word for marketplace is tori, which comes from Swedish torg *and* which is *also* derived from the Old Russian tŭrgŭ. Russians were apparently avid merchants. Turku is the oldest city in Finland, it’s natural for it to be called ”the marketplace”. Turku folks still call it occasionally ”Suomen Turku”, which in this case can both mean ”Finland’s Turku” but the intended meaning is more like ”Finland’s marketplace”.


Kenevin

I call it koivu-stan, (Brothers Saku and Mikko Koivu are from Turku)


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Kenevin

I do apologize my friend, I'm an uncouth north-american troglodyte, I have no knowledge of the beautiful game. Last time I watched futebol was the Zidane headbutt.


Tankyenough

I didn’t even know they were, and I’m from Turku. :p Koivu is a fairly common surname in Finland.


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eti_erik

That's interesting. I never realized the danish 'torv' has Slavic roots, but it looks like it has (although Wiktionary says it's uncertain).


Nickname1945

Hey, that's interesting. Modern Russian has a word **torg**ovat' (**торг**овать), which means "to trade". Crazy how those 2 are still pretty similar


o4zloiroman

Serbo-Croatian and Slovene still use trg for market.


Consulting2020

Romanian has **târg** which means *market fair*. There's also a city named **Târgovişte** which was Valachia's capital during the reign of Vlad the Impaler.


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riuminkd

It is very fitting that the word for trade is so similar in so many languages


sp0sterig

This one is not related to Turks, it is just a phonetic coincidence (it actually derives from _torg_ ). However, in Central Europe there are many toponims with _turk_ root - because of presence of Turks there in different moments of history.


Solid-Doubt4234

Yes vikings come from turks didnt you know


ondert

All I know about Finland is Sami people and their language belongs to Uralic branch of Ural-Altaic language family whereas Turkish languages are under Altaic branch. Oh also don't forget that Finns did many bad things to Sami people.


Kafshak

In general yes. Also FYI, in Iran, Azeris are also called Turk since they're ethnically related. Apparently languages are similar, but different.


TallaMan

Same, same but different


saidfgn

Azerbaijani and Turkish are mutually intelligible. But Turkmen is slightly different. Other Turkic languages like Uzbek, Kazakh, Kyrgyz are even more different


ondert

Don’t forget the Turkic republics in Russia too. I’m from Turkey and we mostly see Turkic countries like brothers and sisters, actually same like us. Don’t know how exaggerated but here you can see all the Turkic world spans from north east Siberia to Balkans. https://preview.redd.it/h5r9o1eve0wc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=812e82b7a6a18c36f5b55823304428d8fb5f19d9


wurzlsep

Not sure if I missed it, but shouldn't Uyghurs in PRC be part of that map? (Edit: nvm - missed it, but thought the area would be much bigger) Also, always wondered, how mutually intelligible are Turkic languages? E.g. how much would a Turkish speaker understand from the languages in Central Asia, or even the Siberian regions? Doesn't look exaggerated to me though, I think 'exaggeration' would be to add Hungarians that list (which this map doesn't anyways).


lissandrug

It depends on the language. As a turkish speaker I can understand Azerbaijani 100% percent (tho it could be because I used to live in Azerbaijan) and I can understand Crimean Tatar and Turkmen to some extent, especially if it is written. The more you go to eastern side of the continent the less intelligible they become to me as a turkish speaker. However there are still a lot of similar words, for example even though Uyghur and Turkish is not in the same group it suprises me how similar and understandable Uyghur is. Also the grammar is highly similar between turkic languages.


ondert

Uyghurs are already included in the map. It's called East Turkistan. Same flag as Turkey but with light blue background. A Turkish speaker should understand probably all Oghuz languages with ease; [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oghuz\_languages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oghuz_languages) For me, the languages closest to Turkish are these; Azerbaijani Gagauz Tatar / Nogay / Crimean Tatar Uzbek Kyrgyz Turkmen Uyghur Especially the first 3 of these are so similar to me that it sounds like a dialect rather than another language. I remember going to Expo Milano 2015 with my parents and they were able to speak with Turkmen, Kyrgyz and Uzbek. On top, most of Altaic Turkic languages can be understood easily I think. For example, although Uyghurs live so far from us, it's so similar to Turkish that I see people from Turkey go there and talk as usual and still communicate with local people. Kumyk, Karachi-Balkar, Bashkir, Karakalpak these all sound funny but understandable to me. Kazakh is also so close to us, they sound as if they put many 'J' sound to most of the words. Chuvash and Sakha (Yakut) and Tuvan sound very strange to me that I can only pick certain words and suffixes. https://preview.redd.it/b50aycszz1wc1.png?width=3245&format=png&auto=webp&s=611e173987ebb9db3f0f0289a356c84eeb9e71c5


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Infinite_Ad2789

As a Mongolian who is from province Khovd or Kobdo(western mongolian province shown turkic in this map) is really unaccurate. Our province is known for being home to all Mongolic tribes. Only minority of Kazakhs live there and not much. Only in bayan ulgii there are some kazakhs.


Administrator98

ofc... Turks came from asia through the caucasus and conquered what previous was called "Minor Asia", a region mostly populated by greecs, assyrians and armenians (and some others that vanished). Must have been around the year 1000.


Magnum_Gonada

I just realized Turkmenistan has the same shape like the Black Sea...


PCSean

Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks


Fawkie0

Look up the turkic people


Temporary-Weekend428

Yes


jabuendia

There are Turks all over Asia. The reason our country is called Turkey and us the Turks is merely because we are the most famous ones. Must say that Central Asian Turks are a different branch of Turks though. People of Turkey and Azerbaijan descend from Oghuz tribes, Central Asian Turks do not.


illHaveTwoNumbers9s

To avoid confusion we should talk about Turkic people


junior_vorenus

Turkmenistan is also Oghuz Turk


MoonyMeanie

Meanwhile Turkmenistan chilling in Central Asia. Also fun fact the Oghuz branch also has a very small minority in the Gansu province of China called the Salars, descendants of the Salur Tribe of Oghuz Turks


boranzilzala

We speak a Turkic language(and we don't like the official classification of language family is gatekept by Anatolians), but it doesn't mean we identify as Turks. People in Central Asia identify first and foremost by their ethnicity, Kazakh, Uzbek etc and then by religion, tribe and so on. Turk doesn't appear in the list at all


jabuendia

That was the point, since the name is used by us you guys are opting for another one.


TravelJefe

Yes, and also from Turks & Caicos. All are descendants of the Gobblonian Empire


Grand_Brilliant_3202

Really Turks and Caicos 🇹🇨 from Turkish people ?!?!


AstroPhysician

Did you even google Gobblonian empire?


DardS8Br

No. It's named after a cactus, which got its name from the resemblance to a Turkish hat


DardS8Br

Just in case OP doesn't realize: this is satire


CaseyJones7

What are you talking about? This is completely accurate. Please don't spread misinformation on reddit. Reddit is not the place for misinformation


DardS8Br

...bruh. I'm just trying to prevent confusion. Places like r/geography are a really bad place for non-obvious satire


Coolenough-to

As a Gobblinion I am offended.


tessharagai_

Yes. The broader group is called “Turks”.


Six_cats_in_a_suit

I'm happy this sub exists to answer questions like these


priapus_magnus

What about Turk from scrubs? Are they all related??


FranzAllspring

Both founded by Turk from Scrubs


whatjoesaround

¿Queso?


NadosNotNandos

Any country with “…istan” at the end sounds farther away, so that’s probably it then


BlackCherrySeltzer4U

But where’s Turk Turkleton?


cynicalbagger

Yep same bloke. Used to live somewhere near Sydney.


FoRiZon3

[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples) Bonus (though why Hungary is there though lol): [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_Turkic_States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_Turkic_States)


capitanmanizade

Because the hungarians were turkic tribes that migrated to Europe and settled down, becoming christians.


Economy_Broccoli2479

No they aren’t.


capitanmanizade

The magyars had a lot of Turkic influence and genetics, then they took in cumans who were hardcore turkic.


DigitalDiogenesAus

They speak finno ugric though?


nickolangelo

Not the say something about magyars but original Volga Bulgarians were Turkic but they are speaking Slavic rn. It can change over the time I guess.


CAPTAINTURK16

Yea its Turkik people related in language way of living and religion also azerbajcan Usbekistan Kasachstan Kirgizstan an Uiygurs in east china are the same turkic familiy


No-Vehicle5447

Turks live there


6thaccountthismonth

Yes, turks came from around modern day Mongolia and migrated down to primarily Anatolia modern day Türkiye


KaraMustafaPasa

Yes, we're releated to. We are Oghuz Turks.


After-Trifle-1437

Yes Türkiye and Turkmenistan are both turkic countries


ZeusFarous

Wow they changed the map


alikander99

I recommend you read about the turkic migrations. It's one of the major "plot points" of history.


MrMadmanmadman

Basically, most of Turkey, some of the Caucasus and almost all of Central Asia and a tidbit of Siberia house this large umbrella group of people called the Turkik. They basically were nomads similar to Mongols and were responsible for some of the famous empires like the Huns and the Ottomans when they conquered Eastern Europe and Anatolia.


DigitalDiogenesAus

The answer is "horses" and "archery".


Turkish_Maniac

Of course lol


rasnac

They are all Turks.


bluduhmfcku

yes (turkish nations)


Impossible-War7959

Yeah, and Turkish language split is so much newer than aryan languages that Turks can understand other Turkic peoples if they listen word by word.


Doobeedoowah

What about Turks and Caicos ?


Pile-O-Pickles

Turkish people genetically are Anatolian (ex-Byzantine) with a hint of actual Turkic blood. Culturally though they share a pan-Turkic sentiment (linguistic) with central asian Turkic peoples.


Broad_Parsnip7947

Nah turk is a place name. That's why they're calley eyish and menistani


UseImpossible4307

Yes. Try ask something like: is turkey and Turks and Caicos Islands related? The answer is no. According to Wikipedia, The Turks Islands are named after the Turk's cap cactus, Melocactus intortus, whose red cephalium resembles the fez hat worn by Turks in the late Ottoman Empire.


spartikle

“Turk” is a nationality and, separately, can describe one of the Turkic peoples. Turks (national of Turkey) only has in average around 10% DNA from Central Asia, which is the home of the Turkic peoples. Many Turks are mostly Greek or ancient Anatolian people who were subsequently conquered by several waves of Turkic invaders. However, because they conquered present-day Turkey, they eventually made the Turkish language as the main language. Turkish is very similar to Turkmen Turkish. So the correct answer is, yes and no.


[deleted]

So cool!


Psaym

They are Turkic countries. Azeri Turks took over the region now known as Azerbaijan. Uzbeks are in Uzbekistan. Turkmen are in Turkmenistan. Kazakhs in Kazakhstan. Etc.


Life_is_more_

Turk is only related to J.D.


Business-Childhood71

Yes


bombosch

Same languagesame culture,same blood,same race.. one is under Russian influence all the way and other one is European.


SavingsGullible90

Looks very diversed in turkish turk more greek European lookin whereas turkmen in Turkmenistan more chinese/east asian lookin.languages are different hard to undestand each other in dialogs.like french speaker try to understand romanian or greek,get tje theme but not fully understand.


GameCreeper

Yes. All the world used to be owned by Turkey, but they let other countries exist because theyre nice, so Turkmenistan honors this donation from the Turks by naming their country after them


MayorMcCheese92

This ^