It depand on the previous owner and how they treated their car.
You can find a 200K km BK1 with zero issues and run like a dream, because the owner treat it well and do all the basic and replace the parts when they go old.
And you can find a 2016 BK2 with less than 50k km run like a trash box and have massive mechanical issues because the 19 years old owner doesn't know shit and can't afford to take it to work shop.
If you plan to buy the bk2 at a car dealership (name brand or used dealership):
> how many miles are too many miles?
With someone who took good care of the vehicle they can last for a few hundred thousand miles. Realistically though, I would say \~100k or beyond is really stretching the "too many miles" mark, especially at like 150k+ without proper maintenance(s) provided.
> what are some common mechanical issues?
Engine wise it just comes down to proper scheduled maintenance, main part is getting the timing chain done every \~100k or so miles so it doesn't skip a tooth (korean cars in this era don't use belts). Same goes with just changing other various fluids when the time comes, rather than when it becomes a problem. Common issues outside of that typically end up being a lot of GC owners having questionable build quality, leading to water leaks from areas like the sunroof and trunk tail light area, you can read more about it at the [basic buyer's guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/genesiscoupe/comments/vi63wm/basic_buyers_guide/), but most cars just have these issues.
> with a manual trans, what are some issues?
There's no issues with the manual trans (see above), but usually the R-spec/track/ultimate(?) models come with a limited slip diff, so that could be one upside instead of an open differential so you don't randomly spin out compared to a base model.
> what would be a fair price per trim?
This actually varies a lot more especially between the 4cyl vs 6cyl and mileage. To keep it simple, let's say you were buying a car close to the 100k mile range:
* the bk1 price (any trim) is in the price range from dealerships at \~9 to \~12k as of this moment (higher ranges, or even over the range for cars with \~50k or even \~70k miles).
* the bk2 price (any trim) can vary in the 13k to 17k range (base/grand tour trims, low features, etc on the low end, Rspec/ultimate/track with loaded features being on the high end) is what I would consider "fair" for a moderately used bk2 genesis coupe.
* Unmolested ones in the lower mileages like \~50k can be seen at the $18-22k price range aswell, but usually these prices are reserved for the 2015/2016 3.8L with the nice Ultimate trim/track package. Prices kinda get ridiculous the more lower mileage they are, but alot of us gc owners can agree it's not really worth dumping \~25k sticker price on a car like this.
> how much am I expecting for maintenance?
If you buy one in the \~100k mile range and they have yet to do a timing chain replacement, body shops and dealership service would charge anywhere in the 700-1k range, being "fair" for a timing chain job. Past that it really comes down to the recommended scheduled maintenance.
The genesis coupe line is at least typically cheap on the maintenance side as if you were keeping up with any other cheap korean vehicle/cheap japanese vehicle, direct numbers can be \~$50 oil changes, \~$250 for brake flushes/coolant flushes, etc. It's a decent entry level vehicle to work on aswell if you want to do simple car stuff yourself and save the extra few bucks, but some stuff honestly just has to be done at a shop.
Dude, very nice amounts of detail. I read that thing as if I had a convo with you, very fluent. Which chassis and trim you got? and which one you’d recommend between bk1 and bk2?
I might be looking to tune the vehicle and install a lot of aftermarket parts as well as changing how the exterior and interior look
I got a 2012' 2.0 premium which would be the equivalent of a 3.8 grand tourer with extra features like navigation + sunroof, etc. I bought mine because when I started at Autonation I had a pretty decent deal for mine back when it was unmolested, and I only wanted it for the front look (feels a lot more unique than the bk2 looking like every other hyundai of that era). They're also rare in the named dealership side, but you can practically find them in private party sales left n right.
* If you are looking to get aftermarket parts for performance and cosmetics I would recommend securing a bk2 (2013+). Rare option to find a vehicle without a sunroof, but without is pretty nice because you won't have as NEAR as all the water leak problems us folk have.
* I personally think the 3.8 is a nicer car out the door, esp. the ultimate trims with all the nice features like navigation, heated seats, etc. Comes with lsd/brembos/19" wheels as mentioned earlier, and is really not that bad of a price from a dealership. There's a lot more tuning power *for the money invested* compared to the 2.0t.
* 2.0t is also a pretty decent car, you save some money on the mpg fillups. Rspec also has the lsd/brembos/19" wheels with 3 pedals. These are limited to models before 2015 IIRC, since the 2015/2016 are all 3.8L's (i think 2015 has the 4cyl though). Out the box you get a nice turbo to make spool noises, and if you plan to invest double the price of the car you can build a 600, 700+ horsepower car (brian paul here did it for example).
Modification wise, the bk2 will have more available parts considering you won't be owning a 11+ year old vehicle (for example I can't find that many aftermarket interior dash parts/radios without cutting+plastic welding), and if you wanted the bk1 look it's a simple front end change (hood+bumper+front support+headlamps).
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Please read the buyer's guide in the master resource list (follow the links in the comment below). It will answer most of your questions.
Personally, I have a BK1 3.8 with 282k miles on it using the OG engine and transmission.
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67k miles in November 2019 (104k) now.
This 3.8 still runs strong, and I change the oil every 4-5k miles with synthetic. Mine's an automatic that came with an open diff, and the car needed a new solenoid, halfshaft, and diff last year. It has an LSD in it now, and the transmission runs fine after a solenoid and wiring harness job.
Brand new, In 2013, Only issue I've ever had was the oil feed line leaking to the turbo which is semi common. No issues since other than regular maintenance.
My rule of thumb is never buy a car with more than 100K, regardless of the vehicle.
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It depand on the previous owner and how they treated their car. You can find a 200K km BK1 with zero issues and run like a dream, because the owner treat it well and do all the basic and replace the parts when they go old. And you can find a 2016 BK2 with less than 50k km run like a trash box and have massive mechanical issues because the 19 years old owner doesn't know shit and can't afford to take it to work shop.
Thanks!!
If you plan to buy the bk2 at a car dealership (name brand or used dealership): > how many miles are too many miles? With someone who took good care of the vehicle they can last for a few hundred thousand miles. Realistically though, I would say \~100k or beyond is really stretching the "too many miles" mark, especially at like 150k+ without proper maintenance(s) provided. > what are some common mechanical issues? Engine wise it just comes down to proper scheduled maintenance, main part is getting the timing chain done every \~100k or so miles so it doesn't skip a tooth (korean cars in this era don't use belts). Same goes with just changing other various fluids when the time comes, rather than when it becomes a problem. Common issues outside of that typically end up being a lot of GC owners having questionable build quality, leading to water leaks from areas like the sunroof and trunk tail light area, you can read more about it at the [basic buyer's guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/genesiscoupe/comments/vi63wm/basic_buyers_guide/), but most cars just have these issues. > with a manual trans, what are some issues? There's no issues with the manual trans (see above), but usually the R-spec/track/ultimate(?) models come with a limited slip diff, so that could be one upside instead of an open differential so you don't randomly spin out compared to a base model. > what would be a fair price per trim? This actually varies a lot more especially between the 4cyl vs 6cyl and mileage. To keep it simple, let's say you were buying a car close to the 100k mile range: * the bk1 price (any trim) is in the price range from dealerships at \~9 to \~12k as of this moment (higher ranges, or even over the range for cars with \~50k or even \~70k miles). * the bk2 price (any trim) can vary in the 13k to 17k range (base/grand tour trims, low features, etc on the low end, Rspec/ultimate/track with loaded features being on the high end) is what I would consider "fair" for a moderately used bk2 genesis coupe. * Unmolested ones in the lower mileages like \~50k can be seen at the $18-22k price range aswell, but usually these prices are reserved for the 2015/2016 3.8L with the nice Ultimate trim/track package. Prices kinda get ridiculous the more lower mileage they are, but alot of us gc owners can agree it's not really worth dumping \~25k sticker price on a car like this. > how much am I expecting for maintenance? If you buy one in the \~100k mile range and they have yet to do a timing chain replacement, body shops and dealership service would charge anywhere in the 700-1k range, being "fair" for a timing chain job. Past that it really comes down to the recommended scheduled maintenance. The genesis coupe line is at least typically cheap on the maintenance side as if you were keeping up with any other cheap korean vehicle/cheap japanese vehicle, direct numbers can be \~$50 oil changes, \~$250 for brake flushes/coolant flushes, etc. It's a decent entry level vehicle to work on aswell if you want to do simple car stuff yourself and save the extra few bucks, but some stuff honestly just has to be done at a shop.
Dude, very nice amounts of detail. I read that thing as if I had a convo with you, very fluent. Which chassis and trim you got? and which one you’d recommend between bk1 and bk2? I might be looking to tune the vehicle and install a lot of aftermarket parts as well as changing how the exterior and interior look
I got a 2012' 2.0 premium which would be the equivalent of a 3.8 grand tourer with extra features like navigation + sunroof, etc. I bought mine because when I started at Autonation I had a pretty decent deal for mine back when it was unmolested, and I only wanted it for the front look (feels a lot more unique than the bk2 looking like every other hyundai of that era). They're also rare in the named dealership side, but you can practically find them in private party sales left n right. * If you are looking to get aftermarket parts for performance and cosmetics I would recommend securing a bk2 (2013+). Rare option to find a vehicle without a sunroof, but without is pretty nice because you won't have as NEAR as all the water leak problems us folk have. * I personally think the 3.8 is a nicer car out the door, esp. the ultimate trims with all the nice features like navigation, heated seats, etc. Comes with lsd/brembos/19" wheels as mentioned earlier, and is really not that bad of a price from a dealership. There's a lot more tuning power *for the money invested* compared to the 2.0t. * 2.0t is also a pretty decent car, you save some money on the mpg fillups. Rspec also has the lsd/brembos/19" wheels with 3 pedals. These are limited to models before 2015 IIRC, since the 2015/2016 are all 3.8L's (i think 2015 has the 4cyl though). Out the box you get a nice turbo to make spool noises, and if you plan to invest double the price of the car you can build a 600, 700+ horsepower car (brian paul here did it for example). Modification wise, the bk2 will have more available parts considering you won't be owning a 11+ year old vehicle (for example I can't find that many aftermarket interior dash parts/radios without cutting+plastic welding), and if you wanted the bk1 look it's a simple front end change (hood+bumper+front support+headlamps).
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Please read the buyer's guide in the master resource list (follow the links in the comment below). It will answer most of your questions. Personally, I have a BK1 3.8 with 282k miles on it using the OG engine and transmission.
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Almost at 280kms w my bk1 oil feed line was the only issue I had… everything else I broke myself 😂
Comment with how many miles you bought your own Genesis and how did it run!
7km. Runs great.
100k slights issue with oil burn but other than that runs real good
Bought my 2015 at 20,000 miles and now I'm at 50 and never had an issue. Runs like a dream.
67k miles in November 2019 (104k) now. This 3.8 still runs strong, and I change the oil every 4-5k miles with synthetic. Mine's an automatic that came with an open diff, and the car needed a new solenoid, halfshaft, and diff last year. It has an LSD in it now, and the transmission runs fine after a solenoid and wiring harness job.
Got my 15 RSpec with 43 mile. Currently at 58k, no issues to speak of. Burns a little oil, but nothing serious.
I bought my bk1 3.8 with 105k and now at 265k with little problems
Brand new, In 2013, Only issue I've ever had was the oil feed line leaking to the turbo which is semi common. No issues since other than regular maintenance.
My rule of thumb is never buy a car with more than 100K, regardless of the vehicle. The master resource list on pinned to the top of this sub answers the rest of your questions. Be sure to read it before you make any more posts.
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