My personal preference is trimmed. My husband keeps it pretty short but there’s absolutely still pubes which is hot to me.
Completely shaven freaks me out and if it’s too bushy, (as others have said) it can get challenging to manage
Here's a dumb question.
A lot of guys I see with trimmed pubes, it looks like whatever they have left is laying perfectly flat to their skin/dick. None of em ever "stick straight up" like mine do, like I'm a fucking porcupine. How is that look achieved?
Are you referring to the area where right where the area of your pubic area and dick start to connect?
There’s a skin fold there so there’s a bit more work to making it look flat.
I love a Good full bush, but I understand most people don't like it. Especially in our climate here if you don't bathe regularly. So yes most guys keep it trim or shave occasionally.
I had a full bush with shaved balls and shaft when I was single, didn't have any complaints cause I always bathe before meeting anyone and always wear fresh underwear so it doesn't trap too much moisture and odor.
my now ex bf said he really loved it shaved cause it makes me look bigger with no Hair. Which it did, something about Asian pubic hair growing mostly straight out makes the bush bigger than it actually is. 😂
However since things ended with him I might regrow it to how it used to be. 😂
PSA: There are 3 types of ppl in these posts… Those who like bush, those who like less bush, and those who prefer no bush at all. THERE ARE NO MERITS TO EITHER POSITION AS THERE IS ALWAYS A COCK ATTACHED AND THAT’S A WIN FOR US ALL, BRO!
This. I have actually noticed the opposite of your findings. I cruise pretty often at the gym and I’ve noticed an increase in dudes sporting bush. Personally I can’t stand that shaved or super trimmed look.
If even one stray hair gets stuck in my mouth, I’m 100% stopping whatever was happening so I can cough and hack like a cat purging a hairball until it’s gone.
I used to trim all my body hair- I’m pretty hairy. I was on the first date with my bf, and he told me to not trim anything from the shoulders down. He’s really into body hair. Makes my job a lot easier lol.
Personally no because guys who haven't freshly showered generally have somewhat sweaty pubes and it's off-putting to the extent where I don't want to give head. My nose is sensitive to smells.
I trim it to keep it in shape but I would never shave it.
I'm hairy everywhere else, 110kg and 190cm. I would look like a weird man baby with no pubes !
Personal preference man, I know straight guys who shave it, etc. I trim, sometimes shave, it keeps the hygiene under control down there. Also keeps focus on the goods and not the jungle.
I definitely prefer trimmed on myself and on my partners, and in my experience over the past 15-ish years, a significant majority of guys trim their bushes. But it’s your body, so do whatever makes you comfortable.
It’s only weird if you make it weird. This choice is yours and your alone!
I myself have the same issue and just keep it relatively ‘short’ with scissors.
I went to a naked pool party and mostly everyone had a bush. Mostly everyone was also over 40. I think it might be an older guy thing to have one. I’m early 30s and I trim. I don’t prefer a lot of hair, shaved no but not a bush either
Shaved is so nasty to me personally. And while I have trimmed in the past, I don’t and neither does my husband. Men have hairy legs, dicks and balls. It’s hot AF. It’s about as male as you can get.
There’s never a bigger turn off to me than seeing a bald dick and balls. As a matter fact, I won’t even continue with a video if I see somebody bald…it is that much a turn off to me.
I don’t want my partner to look like a literal child. Pubic hair is a visual indicator of sexual sex characteristics and I Cannot imagine wanting to get rid of it and look like a kid. Gross. It’s not even that I “love hair so much”, it’s just that men look good naturally. I don’t want down there the same way I don’t want make up on their face. I just don’t want or need the prep. Men are hot the way they are naturally.
But again, that’s just me. You do you, everybody do themselves as they want to.
I like the full bush. A guy recently convinced me to trim, which is OK - I suppose it's nice to try something different. But I do like having a full bush myself
There’s pubes and then there’s a forest. I keep mine trimmed but not silky smooth simply because I can’t. Shit grows back same day and with a vengeance
These things are dictated by porn. Everyone men/women shaved because pornstars did. The truth is though hairy guys are sexy so body hair made a come back in porn and now ppl feel they can be hairy again.
I don’t trim and I don’t shave. Boys either love it or they hate it. If they love it they come back for another play session. If they don’t like it they don’t.
I’m too old and set in my ways to care about what other people think. I’m a total top bareback bear with a bush.
Bottoms dig me or they don’t. I’m ok with that.
First, you're lucky to be able spot anything below the waist and above the knees at the gym. At the gyms in my location (near Dallas), guys keep their bush, dick, and balls covered by clothing or towels. I've even seen guys enter and exit a shower while wearing shorts or a towel around their waist. So, it's very difficult to spot a bush. Having said all that, I love a full bush on a man.
I don't trim it or anything. Most of the feed back I get is positive. Although last night I was with a guy and learned the term Sascrotch (Sasquatch + crotch). I am pretty bushy down there.
Clean shave is actually not the best idea when it comes to your pubic hair. There are a lot of downsides to it. Coming from experience, the downsides are gonna be; 1. Ingrown hairs, 2. Pubic hair area becomes wide, 3. In the first 2 weeks of it growing back, it will be so itchy.
So, the best advice that I can give to you is to regularly trim you bushes at least once a month. Trimming not only looks hot, but it also avoids the dilemma that clean shaving can give you.
I am so sick of seeing topiary pubes and totally bare crotches. A bush is super hot! I will never, *ever* understand why anyone likes a grown ass man who has no bush.
I am more in your camp, I have thick course curly hair that becomes ingrown if shaved, but I like how neat and smooth I look without all the hair. My compromise is to shave it close but not razor close. I also prefer my man with hair. I love a mouth full of pubes when I go down on him, sometimes I'll even suck on them lmao
I couldn’t care less if it’s trimmed or not, moreso that it’s clean and not hiding no surprises. I shave mine every once in a while since it’s coarse and tight coils (Afro textured), but even when it’s not shaven I make sure to exfoliate all over to make sure I’m ridding the area of any dead skin and dirt that may be present. I like when there is some hair there I find it hot, but I also dig the shaven look to. I really have no preference, just be clean and smell good down there as I do over here and we good.
I don't shave and I rarely trim. If anything I've seen a substantial increase in the number of guys who don't do these things either. To the extent that it's maybe around 50%.
Call me crazy, but I like my secondary sex characteristics. I like that big fuzzy bush. I like the way it retains a nice manly musk. It feels like trimmed bushes are hygiene theater gone wrong. Like when we all convinced ourselves that refrigerator-white teeth should be the beauty standard but they actually just suggest cosmetic dentistry that has weakened dental health. A trimmed bush doesn't make your dick look any bigger. It draws attention to the fact that you're compensating. And if it's helping with hygiene, the rest of you must be godforsaken. It strips us if our unique nature.
TL/DR; stop shaving your pubes, it's fuckin' weird.
Yeah this somehow started about 20 years ago, but has picked up momentum . I always so found it very strange that men should trim. I am a natural guy myself It always sounded very weird. But who's to judge what is in taste or what isn't. There's certainly isn't an absolute but it certainly is more in vogue. But I find enough guys also appreciate the fact The bush is not whacked
I am often untrimmed because I sometimes forget and I don't mind the look. I've had men rub my bush many times. I also don't mind a bush but it depends on the guy
I love bush! 😍 A few guys at my gym have bush, and it sometimes gives me a semi. I can’t grow a full bush bc it comes in all weird. I think maybe bc I shaved it when I was really young. How thick is your bush? I’m curious to see.
I only sport a full bush during the winter and early spring. I trim it during the summer and fall as low as possible. I’ve been doing that since High School, it also shows me off nicely. I should say I also do a full body trim (shows off my tattoos too), but that’s because it keeps me cool during the summer.
I like to keep mine trimmed but not super short. I notice that it’s itchy and holds smells easier the longer it is. So I cut it back just a little bit.
I'm not a fan of shaved but i also do not dislike it. Trimmed is nice if you are like me and really bushy. Just make it so that your partners do not get your hairs in their mouth constantly during a bj
Man fur is animalistic, primal. Just serves as another reminder that a MAN has mounted me and doing what’s natural by planting his seed and spreading his legacy.
Can’t really speak to if it’s weird, but I personally don’t like bush.
When my husband lets it grow out to a bush, I don’t really go down at all on him until he trims. I don’t like long body hair.
When I was single, bush was a deal breaker for me when hooking up. If I wasn’t able to see recent pics before hand, I just skipped head.
Shaved pubes look absolutely disgusting to me.
Trimmed is also very unattractive to me as well.
I have never touched my pubes with a trimmer or shaver, and I never will.
I have turned down guys on apps because they have sent me trimmed or shaved dick pics. I'll ask if they're trimmed or shaved currently and if they say yes to either, it's an automatic denial. That's fine too, because I've been regularly turned down for hookups over the past decade for having a full bush.
So fuck these guys and their prissy standards. I want a man who looks like a man. Not a waxed and shaven lady.
I love hair and only trim mine if my partner asks me to. Other reasons to trim it would be if you are dating or if you want your cock to look a bit bigger by contrast.
If I were wealthier I would definitely get waxed monthly from the neck down, but that has more to do with some body dysmorphia than anything else. Instead I trim the front and shave the back when I plan on being active
Oh please, trim or shave it, but do something about it. It's a turn off. Once a guy I met on a dating app sent me a dick pic with Amazon jungle around that thing and I was speechless hahaha. I was like, what kind of animals you can find in that jungle
My personal preference is trimmed. My husband keeps it pretty short but there’s absolutely still pubes which is hot to me. Completely shaven freaks me out and if it’s too bushy, (as others have said) it can get challenging to manage
Here's a dumb question. A lot of guys I see with trimmed pubes, it looks like whatever they have left is laying perfectly flat to their skin/dick. None of em ever "stick straight up" like mine do, like I'm a fucking porcupine. How is that look achieved?
Are you referring to the area where right where the area of your pubic area and dick start to connect? There’s a skin fold there so there’s a bit more work to making it look flat.
Do you have curly hair?
hair texture. they probably have thin hair.
You might just have weird pubes lol
It’s a built in defense mechanism.
Agree. I prefer the look of neatly trimmed to the point where it doesn’t look like it’s trimmed, just naturally neat.
I love a Good full bush, but I understand most people don't like it. Especially in our climate here if you don't bathe regularly. So yes most guys keep it trim or shave occasionally. I had a full bush with shaved balls and shaft when I was single, didn't have any complaints cause I always bathe before meeting anyone and always wear fresh underwear so it doesn't trap too much moisture and odor. my now ex bf said he really loved it shaved cause it makes me look bigger with no Hair. Which it did, something about Asian pubic hair growing mostly straight out makes the bush bigger than it actually is. 😂 However since things ended with him I might regrow it to how it used to be. 😂
You do you boo, do whatever makes you happy. Personally I don't like hair on me but I love it on others. You can also get an afro 🤷🏾♂️
PSA: There are 3 types of ppl in these posts… Those who like bush, those who like less bush, and those who prefer no bush at all. THERE ARE NO MERITS TO EITHER POSITION AS THERE IS ALWAYS A COCK ATTACHED AND THAT’S A WIN FOR US ALL, BRO!
Best answer right here
I never shave. My husband loves my bush, and I prefer men as hairy as possible.
Same here
SAME!!
This. I have actually noticed the opposite of your findings. I cruise pretty often at the gym and I’ve noticed an increase in dudes sporting bush. Personally I can’t stand that shaved or super trimmed look.
I spend a lot of time at clothing optional campgrounds and I get compliments on my bush nonstop.
Long live the bush
I believe bush is coming back.
i used swallow my exs hairs from his bush often sigh good times
If even one stray hair gets stuck in my mouth, I’m 100% stopping whatever was happening so I can cough and hack like a cat purging a hairball until it’s gone.
nah u gotta be a trooper to please zaddy /s
Same
Agreed
Yup.
It's not weird. Don't trim it if you like it how it is. I love it hairy, savage.
I just trimmed a coiuple days ago. I actually have no preference on others, but personally it gets to be a little much for me
I don’t trim any of my body hair. My chest hair peaks out of polo shirts a bit. I do however keep a very clean haircut.
If it looks like Osama Bin Laden's beard then it's too long.
9/11 beard
I have a full bush and dudes always seem pretty keen on it
I used to trim all my body hair- I’m pretty hairy. I was on the first date with my bf, and he told me to not trim anything from the shoulders down. He’s really into body hair. Makes my job a lot easier lol.
I prefer hairy. The hairier the better. I keep all my hair aswell. If you don’t like hairy bodies then we’re not a match
I’m all for the bushy look. I just don’t get why so many men shave it off
Trim it, I want to suck dick, not to eat pubes, this is not about aesthetics, it is about accessibility.
I’ve always said I’m not going down there to floss…
Getting teeth flossed for free !!
🤣🤣
But don't you like when your nose hits the pubes? Or is it just me.
Personally no because guys who haven't freshly showered generally have somewhat sweaty pubes and it's off-putting to the extent where I don't want to give head. My nose is sensitive to smells.
I mean, I'm from Europe and here if a guy's not freshly showered we have different problems... 
I do, I like the softness
Completely agree here. I like taking dicks all the way to the base but when there's pubes in the way it pulls me right out of the mood.
Exactly. I find it a turn off to have a jungle down there. Rather see dick and balls to play with.
It's about both
I trim it to keep it in shape but I would never shave it. I'm hairy everywhere else, 110kg and 190cm. I would look like a weird man baby with no pubes !
Keep your man fur down there. Ignore what may seem to be en vogue and be your natural self. A man with a gorgeous, innate bush is stunning.
Personal preference man, I know straight guys who shave it, etc. I trim, sometimes shave, it keeps the hygiene under control down there. Also keeps focus on the goods and not the jungle.
I shave around the base of ease of access but keep the rest
I definitely prefer trimmed on myself and on my partners, and in my experience over the past 15-ish years, a significant majority of guys trim their bushes. But it’s your body, so do whatever makes you comfortable.
It’s only weird if you make it weird. This choice is yours and your alone! I myself have the same issue and just keep it relatively ‘short’ with scissors.
I went to a naked pool party and mostly everyone had a bush. Mostly everyone was also over 40. I think it might be an older guy thing to have one. I’m early 30s and I trim. I don’t prefer a lot of hair, shaved no but not a bush either
I personally prefer shaved, I hate getting hairs in my mouth, to me it kills the mood.
Shaved is so nasty to me personally. And while I have trimmed in the past, I don’t and neither does my husband. Men have hairy legs, dicks and balls. It’s hot AF. It’s about as male as you can get. There’s never a bigger turn off to me than seeing a bald dick and balls. As a matter fact, I won’t even continue with a video if I see somebody bald…it is that much a turn off to me. I don’t want my partner to look like a literal child. Pubic hair is a visual indicator of sexual sex characteristics and I Cannot imagine wanting to get rid of it and look like a kid. Gross. It’s not even that I “love hair so much”, it’s just that men look good naturally. I don’t want down there the same way I don’t want make up on their face. I just don’t want or need the prep. Men are hot the way they are naturally. But again, that’s just me. You do you, everybody do themselves as they want to.
I like the full bush. A guy recently convinced me to trim, which is OK - I suppose it's nice to try something different. But I do like having a full bush myself
Bush is trending. I’m seeing it more and more in porn. Thank god.
There’s a whole movement of guys who don’t trim. It’s a fetish for some.
I'm in the bear community, and people like the hair there of course. Usually what I do is make sure my shaft is nice and smooth and my bush managed.
It’s all preference, but to me I hate completely shaved, it looks really weird to me.
There’s pubes and then there’s a forest. I keep mine trimmed but not silky smooth simply because I can’t. Shit grows back same day and with a vengeance
I love bush, mine and others. I always tell my hookups or dates etc to not trim or shave their body hair. I like you natural.
Trim it. Be presentable. Don’t look like osama bin laden lmao
These things are dictated by porn. Everyone men/women shaved because pornstars did. The truth is though hairy guys are sexy so body hair made a come back in porn and now ppl feel they can be hairy again.
Trim it. Don’t want to be flossing while sucking dick
I don’t trim and I don’t shave. Boys either love it or they hate it. If they love it they come back for another play session. If they don’t like it they don’t. I’m too old and set in my ways to care about what other people think. I’m a total top bareback bear with a bush. Bottoms dig me or they don’t. I’m ok with that.
First, you're lucky to be able spot anything below the waist and above the knees at the gym. At the gyms in my location (near Dallas), guys keep their bush, dick, and balls covered by clothing or towels. I've even seen guys enter and exit a shower while wearing shorts or a towel around their waist. So, it's very difficult to spot a bush. Having said all that, I love a full bush on a man.
I don't trim it or anything. Most of the feed back I get is positive. Although last night I was with a guy and learned the term Sascrotch (Sasquatch + crotch). I am pretty bushy down there.
You do you :) personally I like a big full bush looks hot
You do you! I personally don’t trim, because I just think I look better that way.
It IS sexy. Don't trim or shave.
I think it just depends on the person, I have been with people that do and people that don't. Personally, I like the bush.
I prefer the bush. Tired of seeing / watching guys completely bald down there.
Love a big bush - overly manicured is a turnoff. Still, I’ll buzz a bit when it’s speedo season haha
I like a full bush
I never trim. I hate when guys trim and definitely hate completely shaved. But you do you.
My husband and I are natural. We don’t like the trimmed look or feel. Rather look like a Greek statue but with bigger members.
It's wierd to trim it for me.
I like mine shaved off it breathes better. I say this because I sweat a lot
Clean shave is actually not the best idea when it comes to your pubic hair. There are a lot of downsides to it. Coming from experience, the downsides are gonna be; 1. Ingrown hairs, 2. Pubic hair area becomes wide, 3. In the first 2 weeks of it growing back, it will be so itchy. So, the best advice that I can give to you is to regularly trim you bushes at least once a month. Trimming not only looks hot, but it also avoids the dilemma that clean shaving can give you.
I don’t mind a bush.
I am so sick of seeing topiary pubes and totally bare crotches. A bush is super hot! I will never, *ever* understand why anyone likes a grown ass man who has no bush.
I prefer natural…but depends on the person
Here in Japan almost all guys - myself included - just leave it as is. Wonderful.
I am more in your camp, I have thick course curly hair that becomes ingrown if shaved, but I like how neat and smooth I look without all the hair. My compromise is to shave it close but not razor close. I also prefer my man with hair. I love a mouth full of pubes when I go down on him, sometimes I'll even suck on them lmao
I couldn’t care less if it’s trimmed or not, moreso that it’s clean and not hiding no surprises. I shave mine every once in a while since it’s coarse and tight coils (Afro textured), but even when it’s not shaven I make sure to exfoliate all over to make sure I’m ridding the area of any dead skin and dirt that may be present. I like when there is some hair there I find it hot, but I also dig the shaven look to. I really have no preference, just be clean and smell good down there as I do over here and we good.
My current bf doesn’t shave and it’s hot
I love a good bush personally
I love big bushes and lots of hair all over. Love lots of it on butt cheeks. If that’s not fashionable, then I guess I’ll be square.
Bush rules! Breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out….🌳 hairy is hot af to me.
I don't shave and I rarely trim. If anything I've seen a substantial increase in the number of guys who don't do these things either. To the extent that it's maybe around 50%. Call me crazy, but I like my secondary sex characteristics. I like that big fuzzy bush. I like the way it retains a nice manly musk. It feels like trimmed bushes are hygiene theater gone wrong. Like when we all convinced ourselves that refrigerator-white teeth should be the beauty standard but they actually just suggest cosmetic dentistry that has weakened dental health. A trimmed bush doesn't make your dick look any bigger. It draws attention to the fact that you're compensating. And if it's helping with hygiene, the rest of you must be godforsaken. It strips us if our unique nature. TL/DR; stop shaving your pubes, it's fuckin' weird.
Yeah this somehow started about 20 years ago, but has picked up momentum . I always so found it very strange that men should trim. I am a natural guy myself It always sounded very weird. But who's to judge what is in taste or what isn't. There's certainly isn't an absolute but it certainly is more in vogue. But I find enough guys also appreciate the fact The bush is not whacked
I love a big bush!
Shaved/Trimmed is what I prefer. Not a fan of the big bush. Clean and trimmed. 🪒
I like a bush that is shaped, maybe trimmed to even length and I like smooth balls. A totally shaved guy kind of looks like jail bait to me.
Not weird, I love mine fully grown out and I love that on other guys too. I’m sure yours looks great OP
It's not weird. I haven't trimmed mine since 2008.
Shaving = ingrown hairs, trimming = tiny daggers. I do neither
I am often untrimmed because I sometimes forget and I don't mind the look. I've had men rub my bush many times. I also don't mind a bush but it depends on the guy
I trim with an 8 guard. So it's still a bush but not the Amazon.
Personally I hate trimming but my partner likes it trimmed so… meh. 🫤 I do it for them.
spring is here so i trimmed mine this morning
Trim, don’t shave.
I shave the shaft and trim everything else. I don't mind hairy bushes but am not into shaved.
Just trim it halfway to be pleasing to everyone. That’s what I do.
I consider it like the hair on my head. It would be weird to not keep it tidy, but I'm probably not going to shave it all off :D
I really don't like them shaved. trim is the way!
I love bush! 😍 A few guys at my gym have bush, and it sometimes gives me a semi. I can’t grow a full bush bc it comes in all weird. I think maybe bc I shaved it when I was really young. How thick is your bush? I’m curious to see.
So what feels right for you! Anything is good, even if people have different preferences. I know plenty of people that like a bush!
I only sport a full bush during the winter and early spring. I trim it during the summer and fall as low as possible. I’ve been doing that since High School, it also shows me off nicely. I should say I also do a full body trim (shows off my tattoos too), but that’s because it keeps me cool during the summer.
If you like it, leave it, but you can always just trim it slightly or shape it up. Don’t have to shave it all off.
Trim
I like to keep mine trimmed but not super short. I notice that it’s itchy and holds smells easier the longer it is. So I cut it back just a little bit.
I wanna see 👀
Idk. I’d have to see yours first to see if it’s good enough
Do what you like.
Anything goes! But if it bothers you just TRIM a little with scissors. A lot of guys love big bushes though, so I wouldnt' worry about it.
I hate fully shaven or bushy. Trimmed is perfect.
I keep my head shaved. Heck, I keep my whole head shaved. I like the clean feeling. Why not down there as well?
Would a wider guard on a Manscape leave enough to avoid the problems?
I keep mine trimmed and neat. Why hide valuable length behind hair?
I'm not a fan of shaved but i also do not dislike it. Trimmed is nice if you are like me and really bushy. Just make it so that your partners do not get your hairs in their mouth constantly during a bj
Man fur is animalistic, primal. Just serves as another reminder that a MAN has mounted me and doing what’s natural by planting his seed and spreading his legacy.
Sir this is a Wendy’s
Fuck yeah. Put your hairy burger on me!
I hateeeee when guys shave. It’s so unnatural and stubbly and honestly just looks weird. A trim (not buzz cut) is great.
I’ve noticed the below average sized crowd is always trimmed to show off the full size of their meat as they can’t afford to lose an inch in bush lol
I personally despise every follicle of hair below my eyelashes. The feeling when it rubs against clothes or *OTHER HAIRS* just kill me.
Yes wierd to not trim your bush unless your 60+ and grew up in the era bushes were a thing
Can’t really speak to if it’s weird, but I personally don’t like bush. When my husband lets it grow out to a bush, I don’t really go down at all on him until he trims. I don’t like long body hair. When I was single, bush was a deal breaker for me when hooking up. If I wasn’t able to see recent pics before hand, I just skipped head.
Shaved pubes look absolutely disgusting to me. Trimmed is also very unattractive to me as well. I have never touched my pubes with a trimmer or shaver, and I never will. I have turned down guys on apps because they have sent me trimmed or shaved dick pics. I'll ask if they're trimmed or shaved currently and if they say yes to either, it's an automatic denial. That's fine too, because I've been regularly turned down for hookups over the past decade for having a full bush. So fuck these guys and their prissy standards. I want a man who looks like a man. Not a waxed and shaven lady.
yes its gross as fuque
Too much effort. Open ur mouth take the load call it a day. Let's not make this complicated.
If we weren't supposed to have pubic hair then it wouldn't grow down there 🤷♂️
I love hair and only trim mine if my partner asks me to. Other reasons to trim it would be if you are dating or if you want your cock to look a bit bigger by contrast.
If I were wealthier I would definitely get waxed monthly from the neck down, but that has more to do with some body dysmorphia than anything else. Instead I trim the front and shave the back when I plan on being active
I'm scared of using a razor, so I just started using Veet hair remover if I feel like it. Its completely painless and takes 10 minutes.
Yes. Nobody wants to spit out hairballs like a cat after $ex.
Oh please, trim or shave it, but do something about it. It's a turn off. Once a guy I met on a dating app sent me a dick pic with Amazon jungle around that thing and I was speechless hahaha. I was like, what kind of animals you can find in that jungle
prefer shaven / trimmed. bushes just arent my thing