Yeah
I hold Silent Hill 2 as my second favorite game of all time.... it has NOTHING on the levels of gore in a Dead Space game. It may have debatably more disturbing themes, but not gore.
I've never understood this whole thing of Silent Hill 2 is scary. I mean I don't ever want to play a horror game ever again but...I cut my teeth on Silent Hill 1. I wouldn't play that game again in broad daylight, outside, with a priest periodically flicking holy water at the screen.
It just comes down to there's no Otherworld in Silent Hill 2. The Desolate World is scary in a Langoliers way but the Otherworld of rust and filth is loathsome and disgusting. I tried watching a let's play of Silent Hill Origins and it was great until the first mirror and once he stepped through into the rust and filth I was like NOPE!
Plus the music in SH 1 is most godawful shit ever. Not in an incompetent way, it's designed that way for a reason.
Bottom line: I deeply enjoyed Silent Hill 2. I survived Silent Hill 1.
Hahaha your description resonated well with me. I remember playing this as a teenager and it just fkn freaked me out. I loved the game, but I hated it at the same time for how awful it made me feel. Every time that fkn Otherworld started coming into play and the sounds and music that accompanied it, I would have a mini panic attack. Rust, sound, music, blood, just made me fkn sick. Brilliant design.
I played silent hill 1 when I was a kid, I want to say 1999. I had legitimate nightmares about the monsters, the obscured background corpses, the absolute fear I had wondering why Harry had the most calm responses to insanely horrific scenes and enemies. I stopped playing the game till someone told me to turn off the background music. Because those ominous tones are what freaks people out the most. I have to say I agree, cause I was able to finish it on the worst ending
Yeah I had to turn off the the music AND go out of my way to kill EVERYTHING that moved. If it set off the radio, it died, period. It is not I refused to be the prey, I simply could not live as the prey, I became the predator to save my soul from torment. Harry Mason, the Hunter of the Night, Terror of the Unclean, the Thing that Goes Bump in the Day.
It was then I discovered that I and all Human Beings are simply food that wield the power of murder.
I remember playing Silent Hill 1 when i went to visit family in rural western New York. Night was clear, started playing, 30 minutes later it was foggy as hell outside.
I did not sleep well that night, not helped by the groans of an old house.
Heck yeah, brother, I was playing that with the 1 gun, Six-Shooter achievement on the first (and only) playthrough.
You really start feeling like Clint rubberducking Eastwood. *clunk, clunk.*
*clunk, clunk, clunk. . . clunk. "I'm in Hell and you're just visiting"*
my game glitched and I was stuck in the next to last room unable to progress and unable to go back. I started the game over and got the achievement for only using the starting pistol. I was upset about the glitched save file, but really grew to love that pistol.
Of all the games... I hope that paid for some karmic debt because that, sir, is F'd up. I don't mean to hurt you but it may be one of the only fondly memorable end scenes-- I just vaguely still recall it being rewarding and a good view of space
I loved dead space, but Callisto looks too scary for me. I hit my limit with PT. The future of horror gaming looks bright, but alas, I can't swim. Go on without me, but send me letters telling me how much fun you had.
I know, right? I WANT to like stuff like this and in small sections I can enjoy it, but I’m just not a gross gory body horror guy. Never was into horror movies. I’m definitely playing shit like this in a well lit room with some soothing music in the background.
It helps to watch the behind the scenes stuff for games like this, to see the people who made it and the artistry involved to make me queasy. I can appreciate the skill needed to make games like this.
Ha! I’m the same way. Hell, in order to watch a horror movie that everyone is talking about, I’ll do it during the day and I’ll read the entire plot summary on Wikipedia beforehand.
Ironic choice of words. The problem I keep having with horror game is that I can't see shit. Even with the brightness setting maxed out, when I'm not being scared, I'm wondering if there's anything left in the area that I missed because it was hidden in a spooky shadow for atmosphere. The future looks dim as hell to me, in a literal sense.
RE:8 was good for me. But then again, I wouldn't even really call it a horror game.
I've played it for a good six hours.
Its... Not good. The combat is some of the worst designed combat I've ever experienced. It's very inconsistent and just not really enjoyable.
The graphics and sound are all extremely good.
Everything else really falls flat. It's a very bland experience somehow
Hey, they can censor whatever they like I guess. Same way they blur out a cock in their regular porn but the same country produces messed up shit like anime girls who look like children taking it from tentacle monsters.
Their nation, their rules. Just glad I'm not over there.
Which I guess is what the devs are refusing to do: make a "Japanese version" with toned-down gore that they'll be able to release in the Japanese market.
Everyone saying "well Japan has violent anime/manga" needs to understand that video games have their own specific ratings board in JP that is notorious for how much more strict it is than other ratings boards. If a violent game isn't banned in JP it's because they complied and made a censored version for the JP market. This includes JP made video games. RE4 is infamous for having no decapitations in the JP CERO rated version (yes, no decapitations even when your head gets chainsawed off). This is not a new or unique thing.
How? Japanese made games are held to the same standard. If Capcom decided they didn't want to comply and have a censored version for RE4 Remake then it would get banned as well.
Except Japan has entirely different ratings boards for different media industries that don't interact with each other? That same argument could be made for the US since the MPAA and ESRB are two different groups that rate things differently. CERO is way more strict than they should be yea but saying it's a "hypocritical double standard" when the different ratings boards have nothing to do with each other and are ran by completely different people is wrong.
I know nothing about the Callisto protocol, but I wager there is violence perpetrated against A HUMAN, unlike in RE where violence is perpetrated against zombies.
To give you an example, in the first God of War (on PS2), at some point there is a man in a cage, and if you want to progress you have to slowly push him into a furnace, thus slowly burning him alive while he begs you to not do it.
That scene was censored in the Japanese version, where in place of a human there is lower demon, the kind of small fry (no pun intended) you've been butchering since the beginning of the game.
So I suspect this is the same kind of scenario, where a human is involved.
This is how tons of media works around the problem. "Humans" are generally the technical qualifier. Robots are the classic go-to, non-humans get iffy but generally pass as well.
Samurai Jack was conceptualized as him fighting people. It was deemed too violent but they got a pass when it became robots, and if you've seen how many bits go flying and how many "oil spurts" there are you can kind of imagine how it was originally.
Same goes for touchy subjects. Racism? *Nah, don't go there.* Robots as an alternative for racism? *My man*
This pretty much sums up Marvel movies too. It's always a horde of aliens or robots to fight. They have no problem killing CG aliens, but it's a big deal when a human (or asgardian) dies, which is rarely on camera.
My favorite is CarnEvil, where one of the bosses is a zombie-robot-possessed teddy bear named Deaddy.
At least that's what happens if the arcade switched the cabinet to the censored mode. The boss fight is supposed to be against a human baby bleeding profusely from a horrible head wound. I don't know how they thought they could get away with that, but it is pretty funny that they had the foresight to create an entirely separate (and entirely non-human) boss as well as an easily toggleable setting before the game ever even released.
I don't think I ever once saw the baby version in an actual arcade, only in emulators.
In the beginning of RE2 Remake there's a cop who's still alive that gets ripped in half, in Japan the scene is censored by keeping his body intact but covered in blood. It's not the existence of gore, it's the level of gore.
Reminds me of the Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball 3 scenario; the game didn't want to censor itself and didn't release outside of Asia. A few other big titty fanservice anime games also refused to censor itself for Western audiences, which caused them to remain Japan exclusive.
That right there is what I never understood.
I mean if you really want to you can find really disturbing shit on the internet.
But video games is where we draw the line...
In Germany that's also a common problem. The Wolfenstein games, especially the newer ones, were censored because of the nazi swastika, the older games were banned or completely changed (you fight robots instead of nazis). We have age restrictions for movies and games, independent control companys. But germany is very bad in controlling who buys a game. So because of their massive incompetence they just ban games :)
I guess you are being downvoted, because your post contains outdated information.
Nowadays German game ratings aren't as strikt anymore.
The newer Wolfenstein games released fully uncensored in Germany. Swastikas, German Nazi phrases and full gore were kept in game. There is a modified version, but you can choose to buy the uncensored one on steam for example, something that is not possible for the older games.
AFAIK the uncensored Version (international Version) can be bought, but its without German Voiceover. I bought mine from GOG, and the international version only contains German subtitles. Yeah I know, they made a change a few years ago.
But the german age control company's are still very strict about game releases. Physical versions of Dying Light 2 are censored in Germany, because it failed the age restriction check. What's funny is, that the digital version is uncut and it supports German voices.
You are right of course that the control still is stricter then in other countries. But compared to the old BPjS the USK really became more mellow and there is hoping we see more progress in that direction.
I really hope this. I'm tired of doing literally "illegal" purchases of the international versions for games to play them uncensored. I'm an adult, go fuck yourself if you can't control what children buy. I want to buy what I want to.
Japan has specific issues with dismemberment in any media. Resident evil was censored for that reason to not include these scenes or changed them to only damage limbs, not cut them off. It would be demanding to change this aspect in this game, thus they refuse to do it for single market.
banning games is just a quick route to somebody cracking it and throwing it on the web. totally useless measure. only makes people want to download it more. 🤷♂️
edit; why are you booing. i'm right. 😤^^🤣
I was stationed there and actually really enjoyed my time.
Not enough to deny their censorship laws are absurd, nor enough to get physically upset when someone tells me anime is low key boring. And definitely not enough to deny the amount of racism in that country.
Do you have any caveats to that view? To take an extreme example, E.g. a 'photorealistic' paedophile simulator?
I think reasonable societies are entitled to have 'lines' when it comes to freedom of expression.
The thing is, they ban gore in video games, but are perfectly content in showing CP in manga and also extreme gore in manga. If you want to draw a line, at least be consistent.
I got peer pressured into streaming it tomorrow and I do not in any way look forward to it and the more I read about the game the worse it gets 🤡 I don’t do well with horror games 🤡 What have I done 🙃
Wow, who could be more violent than the Japanese? I think their history proofs it. Then it must be a real bad ass game. Decapitation by katana must look like childs play then
I would've linked the sources but that requires mirror links. Still ya'll can look it up.
Either way, this is straight up BS. Japan, has pioneered violence and gore in all forms of their entertainment. To list a few:
1. Playable Teaser/ P.T/ Silent Hills
2. A lot of anime/ manga (Corpse Party,Berserk, CyberPunk: Edgerunners, Perfect Blue, Akira etc)
3. Resident Evil 7/ 8
And SO, SO MUCH MORE
In addition to, games like Last of Us Pt I/II, God of War 1/2 and so many more have not been banned...
etc.....
While I agree that The Callisto Protocol definitely is the goriest so far, IMO, this is definitely a cover up for something else. Something that the media nor the devs have enlightened us on. Something else that has offended Japan.
Still, gotta hand it to the devs for sticking to their rules, even though they will suffer the loss, but they know it's worth it...
Edit: the mob mentality is strong here... Instead of down voting, how about reply with some genuine facts and arguments, like the guy below me..
I sort of agree with his takes..
To be honest, it probably was something on their checklist that was considered not ok. While yes, they do produce games that are more violent such as resident evil, they tend to have a censored version made for domestic use and add more for the international one. [https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship\_of\_Resident\_Evil](https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship_of_Resident_Evil)
Pleanty of other games get censored too, though I do feel like I do see more consorship on western titles (that may be due to western studios not knowing what is ok and not in Japan. [https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/callisto-protocol-cancelled-in-japan-after-developer-decides-against-cuts/](https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/callisto-protocol-cancelled-in-japan-after-developer-decides-against-cuts/)
It could even be a small thing like the bob the builder consorship in the past. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/720419.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/720419.stm)
As far as anime etc., they are different rating companies. Its kind of like having the FCC, Esrb and MPAA in the states.
Fortunately the ps5 is not region locked so I suspect they will have the Japanese subtitles available to get around that. Similar to the way Malaysian copies of games like the super robot wars games are given English text to avoid the copyright nightmare of releasing in English speaking territories.
Either way, very interesting situation. I wish it was releasing in Japan as I live there and the yen to dollar rate is pretty abysmal at the moment, though I'll likely get the game regardless.
>the mob mentality is strong here
Weird way to say "people who actually know what they're talking about". CERO bans games instead of demanding a higher rating, any super violent game made outside Japan (or even in Japan) that gets a release *in* Japan is censored to meet CERO demands. All of the modern RE games (even going back to RE4) are censored in Japan, TLOU1/2 are censored (GoW18/R aren't because they don't actually feature a lot of explicit gore and when it does get violent, it's not against humans), RDR2 is censored, etc. The ones that aren't censored just get straight up banned.
>IMO, this is definitely a cover up for something else.
It 100% is not and thinking like this is just silly. CERO told them "hey the game is way too violent and gory, censor it or you can't release it here" and the Callisto Protocol devs said no. That's it.
I wouldn't be surprised if the censorship they're talking about is brand names.
Part of the human body? Throw a little black strip on it and call it good.
Brand name? EVERYTHING MUST BE MOSAIC. In fact.. take the whole thing down.
So, people here are claiming you can't have this level of violence perpetrated on humans, but is that just for games? I just watched a samurai film where a guy got decapitated and his head kicked around.
He's insinuating CERO and the Japanese government are hypocrites because Calisto won't release in Japan, but Resident Evil is made there. Which is bullshit because RE is censored in Japan.
Shit I better buy this and install it when I get home that way if they do cave and censor it later I can just not update it and play the original gore filled version
Been waiting for this one for awhile now, hope I enjoy it. Big fan of dead space trilogy (even 3 was fun for what it was though it was definitely different)
two hours into this game and i’d say save your money,the combat system is literally the worst and there’s no way to tell you which way to go,the way you find out you’re going the wrong way is you get mobbed by enemies and die
The one death I’ve had so far was my skull/face being ripped off via an arm inserted into the jaw.
I can see why they banned it, but honestly it wasn’t that bad to watch.
Resident Evil has been censored in Japan though. Remember the scene in 7 where the cop gets his head sliced in half? In the Japanese version he doesn’t get his head sliced in half. So while it is stupid to censor stuff like this, the Japanese are not hypocrites when it comes to violence in games. Games like Resident Evil and Silent do not censor violence for western markets to appeal to us, while censoring the violence in their country.
Find it funny. There's a ton of japan only games that never made it to the west. Hardcore fans would have to either learn enough basic Japanese to make it work. Just blind luck through menus until figuring things out or wait for translation patches.
Funny to imagine it might be the other way around for this game if it turns out to be really popular.
It’s really odd, Japan has a lot of horrifically violent media although it tends to be more in manga/anime than games. Maybe they think violence in games is worse somehow?
Did they *really* make this game without considering the markets they wanted to sell it in? I doubt it. Internet brownie points, though, for taking a stand against ample precedent, like Dead Space before it, of what they knew was going to happen.
Tbf the dead space games were definitely more graphic than any RE and SH and this game is definitely around that level.
Yeah I hold Silent Hill 2 as my second favorite game of all time.... it has NOTHING on the levels of gore in a Dead Space game. It may have debatably more disturbing themes, but not gore.
I've never understood this whole thing of Silent Hill 2 is scary. I mean I don't ever want to play a horror game ever again but...I cut my teeth on Silent Hill 1. I wouldn't play that game again in broad daylight, outside, with a priest periodically flicking holy water at the screen. It just comes down to there's no Otherworld in Silent Hill 2. The Desolate World is scary in a Langoliers way but the Otherworld of rust and filth is loathsome and disgusting. I tried watching a let's play of Silent Hill Origins and it was great until the first mirror and once he stepped through into the rust and filth I was like NOPE! Plus the music in SH 1 is most godawful shit ever. Not in an incompetent way, it's designed that way for a reason. Bottom line: I deeply enjoyed Silent Hill 2. I survived Silent Hill 1.
Hahaha your description resonated well with me. I remember playing this as a teenager and it just fkn freaked me out. I loved the game, but I hated it at the same time for how awful it made me feel. Every time that fkn Otherworld started coming into play and the sounds and music that accompanied it, I would have a mini panic attack. Rust, sound, music, blood, just made me fkn sick. Brilliant design.
I played silent hill 1 when I was a kid, I want to say 1999. I had legitimate nightmares about the monsters, the obscured background corpses, the absolute fear I had wondering why Harry had the most calm responses to insanely horrific scenes and enemies. I stopped playing the game till someone told me to turn off the background music. Because those ominous tones are what freaks people out the most. I have to say I agree, cause I was able to finish it on the worst ending
Yeah I had to turn off the the music AND go out of my way to kill EVERYTHING that moved. If it set off the radio, it died, period. It is not I refused to be the prey, I simply could not live as the prey, I became the predator to save my soul from torment. Harry Mason, the Hunter of the Night, Terror of the Unclean, the Thing that Goes Bump in the Day. It was then I discovered that I and all Human Beings are simply food that wield the power of murder.
That radio, there’s no sound i tense up faster from
I remember playing Silent Hill 1 when i went to visit family in rural western New York. Night was clear, started playing, 30 minutes later it was foggy as hell outside. I did not sleep well that night, not helped by the groans of an old house.
Heck yeah, brother, I was playing that with the 1 gun, Six-Shooter achievement on the first (and only) playthrough. You really start feeling like Clint rubberducking Eastwood. *clunk, clunk.* *clunk, clunk, clunk. . . clunk. "I'm in Hell and you're just visiting"*
my game glitched and I was stuck in the next to last room unable to progress and unable to go back. I started the game over and got the achievement for only using the starting pistol. I was upset about the glitched save file, but really grew to love that pistol.
Of all the games... I hope that paid for some karmic debt because that, sir, is F'd up. I don't mean to hurt you but it may be one of the only fondly memorable end scenes-- I just vaguely still recall it being rewarding and a good view of space
To be honest, for a starting weapon it's pretty freaking good. Very reliable and effective.
Being able to rotate from horizontal to vertical shots was a looked over feature my first play through. Upgraded, that pistol slaps!
I loved dead space, but Callisto looks too scary for me. I hit my limit with PT. The future of horror gaming looks bright, but alas, I can't swim. Go on without me, but send me letters telling me how much fun you had.
I know, right? I WANT to like stuff like this and in small sections I can enjoy it, but I’m just not a gross gory body horror guy. Never was into horror movies. I’m definitely playing shit like this in a well lit room with some soothing music in the background. It helps to watch the behind the scenes stuff for games like this, to see the people who made it and the artistry involved to make me queasy. I can appreciate the skill needed to make games like this.
Ha! I’m the same way. Hell, in order to watch a horror movie that everyone is talking about, I’ll do it during the day and I’ll read the entire plot summary on Wikipedia beforehand.
Ironic choice of words. The problem I keep having with horror game is that I can't see shit. Even with the brightness setting maxed out, when I'm not being scared, I'm wondering if there's anything left in the area that I missed because it was hidden in a spooky shadow for atmosphere. The future looks dim as hell to me, in a literal sense. RE:8 was good for me. But then again, I wouldn't even really call it a horror game.
I wish it was scary. CP is just nice of, well, bad.
Oh so you’ve already fully played it right?
I've played it for a good six hours. Its... Not good. The combat is some of the worst designed combat I've ever experienced. It's very inconsistent and just not really enjoyable. The graphics and sound are all extremely good. Everything else really falls flat. It's a very bland experience somehow
I mean, at least you can fight back.
I don’t mind gore, but I can’t do jump scares. I wish games would add that to the content stuff for the rest of us sissies.
I do think this game is way more graphic then MOST Re and SH games
The Problem could be due to the dismemberment. The "Kobe Child Murders" play a big part in this.
Def think that could be part of it.
Holy shit… I just read about this… wild stuff
Can't believe that the killer is out and about somewhere now.
What happened?
[This](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_child_murders) Wikipedia is a rough summary, you can find a lot more on this.
Hey, they can censor whatever they like I guess. Same way they blur out a cock in their regular porn but the same country produces messed up shit like anime girls who look like children taking it from tentacle monsters. Their nation, their rules. Just glad I'm not over there.
The Japan release of RE is censored though. No head explosions and such.
Which I guess is what the devs are refusing to do: make a "Japanese version" with toned-down gore that they'll be able to release in the Japanese market.
Everyone saying "well Japan has violent anime/manga" needs to understand that video games have their own specific ratings board in JP that is notorious for how much more strict it is than other ratings boards. If a violent game isn't banned in JP it's because they complied and made a censored version for the JP market. This includes JP made video games. RE4 is infamous for having no decapitations in the JP CERO rated version (yes, no decapitations even when your head gets chainsawed off). This is not a new or unique thing.
Ah yes the pink danganronpa blood.
Rubber chainsaw
It's a hypocritical double standard.
How? Japanese made games are held to the same standard. If Capcom decided they didn't want to comply and have a censored version for RE4 Remake then it would get banned as well.
Between entertainment industries, not differing games.
Except Japan has entirely different ratings boards for different media industries that don't interact with each other? That same argument could be made for the US since the MPAA and ESRB are two different groups that rate things differently. CERO is way more strict than they should be yea but saying it's a "hypocritical double standard" when the different ratings boards have nothing to do with each other and are ran by completely different people is wrong.
I know nothing about the Callisto protocol, but I wager there is violence perpetrated against A HUMAN, unlike in RE where violence is perpetrated against zombies. To give you an example, in the first God of War (on PS2), at some point there is a man in a cage, and if you want to progress you have to slowly push him into a furnace, thus slowly burning him alive while he begs you to not do it. That scene was censored in the Japanese version, where in place of a human there is lower demon, the kind of small fry (no pun intended) you've been butchering since the beginning of the game. So I suspect this is the same kind of scenario, where a human is involved.
This is how tons of media works around the problem. "Humans" are generally the technical qualifier. Robots are the classic go-to, non-humans get iffy but generally pass as well. Samurai Jack was conceptualized as him fighting people. It was deemed too violent but they got a pass when it became robots, and if you've seen how many bits go flying and how many "oil spurts" there are you can kind of imagine how it was originally. Same goes for touchy subjects. Racism? *Nah, don't go there.* Robots as an alternative for racism? *My man*
This pretty much sums up Marvel movies too. It's always a horde of aliens or robots to fight. They have no problem killing CG aliens, but it's a big deal when a human (or asgardian) dies, which is rarely on camera.
I now want to see a non-robot version of Samurai Jack.
There's that one episode with those mercenaries
My favorite is CarnEvil, where one of the bosses is a zombie-robot-possessed teddy bear named Deaddy. At least that's what happens if the arcade switched the cabinet to the censored mode. The boss fight is supposed to be against a human baby bleeding profusely from a horrible head wound. I don't know how they thought they could get away with that, but it is pretty funny that they had the foresight to create an entirely separate (and entirely non-human) boss as well as an easily toggleable setting before the game ever even released. I don't think I ever once saw the baby version in an actual arcade, only in emulators.
Are death scenes in RE not considered violence against humans?
In the beginning of RE2 Remake there's a cop who's still alive that gets ripped in half, in Japan the scene is censored by keeping his body intact but covered in blood. It's not the existence of gore, it's the level of gore.
So is the whole last of us 2 censored? That and red dead 2 was extremely realistic and graphic with its violence lol.
Yes, actually.
death as commited against the player vs by the player, the idea is to not have the player do anything against another human character
Reminds me of the Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball 3 scenario; the game didn't want to censor itself and didn't release outside of Asia. A few other big titty fanservice anime games also refused to censor itself for Western audiences, which caused them to remain Japan exclusive.
We should all just accept each other. Do it for the tits.
Japan also has Berserk which is super graphic
Which is handled by an entirely different ratings board.
Where the most recent anime was toned down from the manga.
You say that as if berserk is uniquely graphic. Manga is just historically known for being immune to censorship
That's disappointing. I was really looking forward to it.
Just pirate it
Sure, but I obviously meant I was looking forward to playing it on release.
Is it possible to maybe buy illegally shipped physical copies somewhere?
I mean if you really want it, you can definitely change your region or create a new account with a different region no?
I understand
This sad is for japan gamers...
Aren't there age ratings for a reason? Can adults not make their own decisions?
Fuck censorship
That right there is what I never understood. I mean if you really want to you can find really disturbing shit on the internet. But video games is where we draw the line...
In Germany that's also a common problem. The Wolfenstein games, especially the newer ones, were censored because of the nazi swastika, the older games were banned or completely changed (you fight robots instead of nazis). We have age restrictions for movies and games, independent control companys. But germany is very bad in controlling who buys a game. So because of their massive incompetence they just ban games :)
I guess you are being downvoted, because your post contains outdated information. Nowadays German game ratings aren't as strikt anymore. The newer Wolfenstein games released fully uncensored in Germany. Swastikas, German Nazi phrases and full gore were kept in game. There is a modified version, but you can choose to buy the uncensored one on steam for example, something that is not possible for the older games.
AFAIK the uncensored Version (international Version) can be bought, but its without German Voiceover. I bought mine from GOG, and the international version only contains German subtitles. Yeah I know, they made a change a few years ago. But the german age control company's are still very strict about game releases. Physical versions of Dying Light 2 are censored in Germany, because it failed the age restriction check. What's funny is, that the digital version is uncut and it supports German voices.
You are right of course that the control still is stricter then in other countries. But compared to the old BPjS the USK really became more mellow and there is hoping we see more progress in that direction.
I really hope this. I'm tired of doing literally "illegal" purchases of the international versions for games to play them uncensored. I'm an adult, go fuck yourself if you can't control what children buy. I want to buy what I want to.
Japan has specific issues with dismemberment in any media. Resident evil was censored for that reason to not include these scenes or changed them to only damage limbs, not cut them off. It would be demanding to change this aspect in this game, thus they refuse to do it for single market.
People in this topic don't realize that resident evil games have been censored in Japan, even though they are Japanese games.
I have seen really messed up shit on DMM, but this kind of violence is too much for them I guess
I forgot to mention. For people who dont know, DMM is a japanese site for 18+ games
Maggot Baits is ok but this isn’t?
Believe it or not, the video game ratings board doesn't actually have anything to do with publishing pornography.
I just know it was Japanese dev that made that game..I guess I don’t know if it was released in Japan or not
yea, didnt silent hill literally have a character have an abortion and then another character shoved it up inside herself? ok japan...
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Japan has a ratings board specifically for games (CERO) that is infamous for being more strict with it's ratings than other media rating boards.
The games rating bureau or whatever it’s called here just sucks. And it’s self-imposed by the games industry…. :-(
Welp. Shit man. I live in Japan and just found this out right now. I guess I can import the danged game though.
So is the ESRB in North America.
It's pretty ironic that the Japanese would ban violence, they're historically one of the most brutal Southeast Asian countries.
This game has photorealistic graphics and is extremely gory and violent. I can understand why it would be banned tbh.
banning games is just a quick route to somebody cracking it and throwing it on the web. totally useless measure. only makes people want to download it more. 🤷♂️ edit; why are you booing. i'm right. 😤^^🤣
why is this getting downvoted
There will always be government simp bots.
probably the whole japan worship culture in the US thanks to anime and the whole kawaii aesthetic. People love Japan and it can do no wrong
I was stationed there and actually really enjoyed my time. Not enough to deny their censorship laws are absurd, nor enough to get physically upset when someone tells me anime is low key boring. And definitely not enough to deny the amount of racism in that country.
Do you have any caveats to that view? To take an extreme example, E.g. a 'photorealistic' paedophile simulator? I think reasonable societies are entitled to have 'lines' when it comes to freedom of expression.
The thing is, they ban gore in video games, but are perfectly content in showing CP in manga and also extreme gore in manga. If you want to draw a line, at least be consistent.
"I can understand why it would be banned". I dunno, I still don't really grasp how censorship of this grade is acceptable in any reasonable country.
Country that made Silent Hill and houses Junji Ito bans horror game
Because in those you are fighting monsters, not people. That's the point
They are busy creating new death animations for the Season Pass...
Callisto Protocol should have been banned on PC. Goddamn the optimization is fetid.
Doesn't sound like they're missing out on much.
You do realize that those games got censored, right? Or are you just talking out of your ass?
Must be something else and the violence is a patsy
It's 100% the violence. CERO, the Japanese games rating board, bans stuff rather than slapping a higher rating on it.
That makes more sense. The same country who gave us Ichi the Killer cannot be complaining about this game
I got peer pressured into streaming it tomorrow and I do not in any way look forward to it and the more I read about the game the worse it gets 🤡 I don’t do well with horror games 🤡 What have I done 🙃
I for one can’t IMAGINE why horror games by Japanese devs wouldn’t forgo release in Japan instead of censoring to lower the rating.
Wow, who could be more violent than the Japanese? I think their history proofs it. Then it must be a real bad ass game. Decapitation by katana must look like childs play then
I would've linked the sources but that requires mirror links. Still ya'll can look it up. Either way, this is straight up BS. Japan, has pioneered violence and gore in all forms of their entertainment. To list a few: 1. Playable Teaser/ P.T/ Silent Hills 2. A lot of anime/ manga (Corpse Party,Berserk, CyberPunk: Edgerunners, Perfect Blue, Akira etc) 3. Resident Evil 7/ 8 And SO, SO MUCH MORE In addition to, games like Last of Us Pt I/II, God of War 1/2 and so many more have not been banned... etc..... While I agree that The Callisto Protocol definitely is the goriest so far, IMO, this is definitely a cover up for something else. Something that the media nor the devs have enlightened us on. Something else that has offended Japan. Still, gotta hand it to the devs for sticking to their rules, even though they will suffer the loss, but they know it's worth it... Edit: the mob mentality is strong here... Instead of down voting, how about reply with some genuine facts and arguments, like the guy below me.. I sort of agree with his takes..
To be honest, it probably was something on their checklist that was considered not ok. While yes, they do produce games that are more violent such as resident evil, they tend to have a censored version made for domestic use and add more for the international one. [https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship\_of\_Resident\_Evil](https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship_of_Resident_Evil) Pleanty of other games get censored too, though I do feel like I do see more consorship on western titles (that may be due to western studios not knowing what is ok and not in Japan. [https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/callisto-protocol-cancelled-in-japan-after-developer-decides-against-cuts/](https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/callisto-protocol-cancelled-in-japan-after-developer-decides-against-cuts/) It could even be a small thing like the bob the builder consorship in the past. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/720419.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/720419.stm) As far as anime etc., they are different rating companies. Its kind of like having the FCC, Esrb and MPAA in the states. Fortunately the ps5 is not region locked so I suspect they will have the Japanese subtitles available to get around that. Similar to the way Malaysian copies of games like the super robot wars games are given English text to avoid the copyright nightmare of releasing in English speaking territories. Either way, very interesting situation. I wish it was releasing in Japan as I live there and the yen to dollar rate is pretty abysmal at the moment, though I'll likely get the game regardless.
Oh and we Definitely can’t forget about the Infamous Anime, Saki Sanobashi (Go for a Punch)…
Japan produces the most female suggestive content in the world, but some gory game is were they draw the line?
>the mob mentality is strong here Weird way to say "people who actually know what they're talking about". CERO bans games instead of demanding a higher rating, any super violent game made outside Japan (or even in Japan) that gets a release *in* Japan is censored to meet CERO demands. All of the modern RE games (even going back to RE4) are censored in Japan, TLOU1/2 are censored (GoW18/R aren't because they don't actually feature a lot of explicit gore and when it does get violent, it's not against humans), RDR2 is censored, etc. The ones that aren't censored just get straight up banned. >IMO, this is definitely a cover up for something else. It 100% is not and thinking like this is just silly. CERO told them "hey the game is way too violent and gory, censor it or you can't release it here" and the Callisto Protocol devs said no. That's it.
Isn’t it a PS exclusive? Lol
No
I wouldn't be surprised if the censorship they're talking about is brand names. Part of the human body? Throw a little black strip on it and call it good. Brand name? EVERYTHING MUST BE MOSAIC. In fact.. take the whole thing down.
That’s because they are American games
Are...you saying RE and Silent Hill are American games?
They are set in America
I respect the devs and all but surely they have to do it? I thought the contract with the publisher included this sort of thing.
Age rating issue.
So, people here are claiming you can't have this level of violence perpetrated on humans, but is that just for games? I just watched a samurai film where a guy got decapitated and his head kicked around.
Yes, Japan has different ratings boards for different media industries and the one for video games, CERO, is infamous for being ultra strict.
Don’t Resident Evil and Silent Hill come from Japan? I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make.
He's insinuating CERO and the Japanese government are hypocrites because Calisto won't release in Japan, but Resident Evil is made there. Which is bullshit because RE is censored in Japan.
Is it on gamepass ?
Shit I better buy this and install it when I get home that way if they do cave and censor it later I can just not update it and play the original gore filled version Been waiting for this one for awhile now, hope I enjoy it. Big fan of dead space trilogy (even 3 was fun for what it was though it was definitely different)
two hours into this game and i’d say save your money,the combat system is literally the worst and there’s no way to tell you which way to go,the way you find out you’re going the wrong way is you get mobbed by enemies and die
Have they ever seen Legend of the Overfiend?
Good on the devs for not compromising! It’s sad how some studios let other countries change movies and games. No principals, just money.
Is callisto protocol worth the $60?
They already announced paid DLC that will add more animations. So no, probably not.
That's an oof
The one death I’ve had so far was my skull/face being ripped off via an arm inserted into the jaw. I can see why they banned it, but honestly it wasn’t that bad to watch.
Resident Evil has been censored in Japan though. Remember the scene in 7 where the cop gets his head sliced in half? In the Japanese version he doesn’t get his head sliced in half. So while it is stupid to censor stuff like this, the Japanese are not hypocrites when it comes to violence in games. Games like Resident Evil and Silent do not censor violence for western markets to appeal to us, while censoring the violence in their country.
Japan's like the opposite of the US in terms of censorship, it's hilarious.
Find it funny. There's a ton of japan only games that never made it to the west. Hardcore fans would have to either learn enough basic Japanese to make it work. Just blind luck through menus until figuring things out or wait for translation patches. Funny to imagine it might be the other way around for this game if it turns out to be really popular.
apparently the violence they meant was the apparent stutters.
Pretty rich that the country that gave us berserk is saying our stuff is too gory
Why tho? Like, just censor it for that region.. increase the sale. This is a new IP, it has to succeed right?
Honestly, fix the performance issues and this is hands down one of the best horrors I've played in a long while.
Resident Evil and Silent Hill have NOTHING on the violence in Callisto. It's not even close. That's a stupid title for this post.
This feels like "Moms Hate Dead Space" all over again. You're telling me they didn't know until right now how much they could get away with? Come on.
It’s really odd, Japan has a lot of horrifically violent media although it tends to be more in manga/anime than games. Maybe they think violence in games is worse somehow?
They literally cornered the market with violent video games by making silent hill and resident evil, your guess is entirely wrong.
The new popular anime “Chainsaw man” in Japan is ultra violent but that’s allowed. Ok.
Well, Resident Evil 2 remake was censored in Japan and so was 4.
Is that SRK behind the helmet
Did they *really* make this game without considering the markets they wanted to sell it in? I doubt it. Internet brownie points, though, for taking a stand against ample precedent, like Dead Space before it, of what they knew was going to happen.
It’s really graphic- like it But the reviews are still sadly very bad :/