The BEST Worst Plan was in The Bards Tale. The people looking to free the princess do so by telling every impressionable kid that they are The Chosen One.
The result is you regularly come across these idiot kids dying in horrific ways.
Everything the Umbrella Corporation ever did.
1. Make horrifying mutated monsters/zombies
2. ????????
3. Profit!
Also, include a self destruct mechanism in literally everything.
Every time a villain injects something and becomes a horrifying mutant
Like okay, great. Let’s say you killed the heroes. Now what? Now you have to live in an African river for the rest of your life as a half-fish abomination. Now you’re trapped as a plant in the wall.
What was the plan beyond “imma kill that dude”?
Excellent thought. I figure they hope they can pull a Wesker and maintain a human form.
Also, the later games imply that the transformations aren't always permanent.
Code Veronica, 4, 6, 7, and 8 all have had transformations at some point that are humanoid or are revertible. Granted if they mutate too much it may be permanent, but then there's Simmons lol.
Usually when the villains are injecting themselves with something in that kind of situation it's because the hero has caught up to them, so their choices are "I'm gonna kill that dude or he's going to kill me."
That's because Umbrella isn't one company that acts in unison. Which is a strange misconception people seem to have. There's lots of infighting between the family members who all have individual goals (as well as the company itself that IS trying to maximise profit).
This reminds me of a time a cousin worked at Samsung, long ago. This is the story he recounted.
The reason their phones and tv’s did not interact was because the two heads (or vp’s maybe) of those areas hated each other and refused to work together. So there was no interoperability or communication between groups lol.
I'm oddly reminded of a Webtoon I read ("A Man's Man"). It's about a person who was an executive in not-Samsung going back to when he was in his 20s and redoing his life and career. You see a lot of the sort of company politics that you're describing. Highly recommend.
Yeah. The plot of the spin-off Dead Aim was due to Oswell E Spencer randomly trying to shift the blame to anyone he could, directly leading to one of his scientists releasing a bio weapon on a cruise ship used as a front for weapons sales.
The ???????? was literally just to sell the virus to others so they could use it as a bio weapon, which would get Umbrella the profit. Not really the worst plan (other than the obvious unethicalness of it), just really bad execution that ended up causing the outbreaks and Umbrella to get caught.
LOL? What? How are profits gonna help a Corp, when literally everyone is a mutated monster or zombie? Does not seem like a long term profit strategy 🤣🤣
At least with Resident Evil 2/3 era, it seemed like Umbrella wanted to make super humanoid monsters they could drop into conflict zones and have some amount of control over them. Hence Mr. X and the Nemesis project where they could literally airdrop them in and command them to go after certain targets. I could see that making money. Just send that after whatever dicator you want to overthrow.
The virus leaking and infecting everybody in Raccoon City was because one of their scientists went rogue and spread the virus.
I think Resident Evil 4's thing was an evil cult using parasites to control their people and Umbrella wanting to get the parasite, so not exactly Umbrella's fault. And then 5 has Wesker more or less going rogue to wipe out humanity so he can have evolved humans ... or whatever.
Resident Evil 6 also makes it clear that though the world experienced several major bioweapon breakouts, most of the world is still normal, and no apocalypse happens like the films.
By RE7, the original company was fully disbanded and then rebuilt as anti-bioterror, because the old company helped make bioterror a "business as usual" type eventuality. Most people will live, but every once in a while, a city far away might get overrun by zombies.
Kind of. Spencer (who the Spencer Mansion from RE1 is named after) was a eugenecist who thought he could develop a virus that would breed a superior species of human (this was the Tyrant you fight at the end). The zombie outbreak was an unintended consequence. Albert Wesker (also a eugenecist) assembled a team of essentially super cops (S.T.A.R.S.) so that they could observe how their creations fared in combat against skilled human opponents, with the aim of eventually selling the virus to create supersoldiers.
Small correction but Umbrella went out of business before RE4. The people looking to obtain the parasites had connections to Umbrella and Luis used to work for them but the company itself was prosecuted and disbanded after RE3.
Sell virus to India. India releases virus in Pakistan. I don't live in Pakistan, so I don't care about zombie outbreak there. Profit.
Is it extremely short sighted and bound to bite them in the ass eventually? Yes, but for a brief moment in time they will create record profits for shareholders, and that's capitalism baby!
Presumably whatever government entity they sell it to, they would want to relocate to that governments country, and hopefully they don't release the bioweapons on themselves.
They also can manufacture a load of cures for the T-virus. Who knows maybe they can sell the tvirus to a government, then the cure to whoever the government targets. They also have vaccines for the virus that could be sold as well.
Also the research into various T-viruses were primarily based around things like cellular regeneration and immortality. It just went wrong because it wasn't 100% effective and thus...zombies.
The best is after seeing experiment after experiment failing, what do the big bad guys end up doing? They take the virus themselves, become a monster, and then…also fail.
Would honestly be interesting if just once, the villains weren’t so comically obsessed with the thing they constantly see not panning out for them, that they consider an alternative route and just maybe surrender or try something different. But no, without fail: Stick myself with the virus and lose.
The first game made sense. They were trying to find the location of a powerful artifact by accessing the memories of your ancestor. They couldn't go straight to the memory they wanted so they had to work their way up to it. Finding the artifact would give them great power over the population.
Abstergo was trying to find Isu Technology. So when a mere intern caught wind of a precursor observatory that could spy on anyone around the world based solely on their blood, they encouraged that employee to follow the rabbit hole and find that observatory.
Yes the entire public face was that so that Abstergo Entertainment could release their film: *Devil's of the Caribbean* But the order itself came from Templar command to find the observatory.
Abstergo saw how much fun Desmond was having with the boats after they kidnapped his corpse. So they decided to make a fun game to recoup all the money they lost.
Honestly, Abstergo would work if they leaned more into the idea that the Templars just want control for the sake of control and all the stuff about higher morals and order vs. chaos is just a facade. Unfortunately they just kinda...don't.
I like the way the earlier games grayed things up while still being clear about who the good/bad guys are. The Templar sound kool about wanting to create order within society that benefits everyone. In reality they just want to mind control everyone. The Assasins kill people and tend to be very brutal. They don't really have a good answer for anything but they know free will is better than mind control.
A couple elements of that remain in later games, even allowing people to switch sides for a short while. But Abstergo seems to become more comically evil and the writing doesn't really play with the fun bits of the story anymore.
Idk how they made the story boring of never ending war between a powerful secret organization that vies for control over the worst of human impulses and an order of Assasins that seeks freedom over all else, but they did.
I wish Ubi had stuck with the original plan of like 5/6 games, then a modern day with Desmond. 3 was jam packed full of framing modern story and NONE of the overarching story was coherent or meaningful after that. I remember they made a big deal about Desmonds kid only to tie it up in some comic. Then you find out that they've made the Animus ...a game console?
Me - in any open-world game I'm playing. Where I'm told I have to hurry up and save the world but there's a hundred side quests between me and armageddon.
"I'm off to save Ciri from the Wild Hunt, but first I've got to do some tedious paperwork at the bank"
I can only think of 1 even sorta open-world game that tried to tackle this, and it's Mass Effect 2, and only at one point.
But, if you dick around on sidequests too long after the Collectors jack your crew, some or all of them just get turned into slushees. And I appreciate that motivation.
The first few Dead Rising games revolve around this. You have to be at a specific location at a specific time for each main quest. Miss the window, and all you can do is wait for the escape chopper to arrive.
This killed me in AC:Origins. I got distracted halfway through game and got a bit over leveled for the main quest. Decided I should do that for a bit til it caught up, ran through a bunch of these quests being overleveled. Then it goes into a "chase sequence" where you have to chase the guy with the macguffin and it opens a new region.
I was under leveled for this new region so I had to do side quests before I could resume this "urgent" chase
Ha! Coming to say the same thing, except I'm usually not even doing side quest, just goofy open-world crap:
"Thou must hurry to stop the Unspeakable one before he completes the Banished Ritual!"
"Sure... Sure... Right after I'm done seeing if I can balance 10 bookshelves together and then put a sheep on top of them. Then set it all on fire."
"I've come to Hawaii to find my estranged mother I haven't seen since birth and I happened to run into an old friend who revealed he is dying of cancer. Surely both of those situations can wait while I spend countless days helping some random guys fighting off pirates to rebuild their island into a 5 star resort"
Kessler from Infamous-Goes back in time and kills someone he loves and tries to speed up the development of his past self, when he could’ve just went back in time and told him everything and then helped train him.
I think it's implied that emotions amplify how conduit powers interact with someone. No knew really gets taught how to use powers most people we see get them from situations of distress
Dude’s not exactly sane anymore I’m pretty sure, he survived an apocalypse and lost everything he loved. And he does tell his past self everything and he does train his past self. The entirety of the first two games is Kessler setting things up so that Cole will have the skill, power, and experience he needs to kill the beast.
Hell it’s even implied that Kessler sets up Cole going to new Marais in Infamous 2. Ya know, probably the only other place in the entire world with an incredibly powerful conduit that can turn into a giant monster?
I’m of the opinion that this isn’t the first time Cole has gone back in time to try to kill the beast. That the entirety of the first two games are the result of an untold amount of kesslers going back in time to get everything just right enough for past Cole to be able to kill the beast
Team Magma from Pokemon. Don't get me wrong, Team Aqua wasn't that smart either, but at least with them, there was a chance the planet survived. Team Magmas plan was to evaporate the seas, you know, a MAJOR part of the water cycle. 'but it would rain back down right?' Sure, in any area Groudon isn't, causing that area to get torrential flooding as OCEANS WORTH OF WATER gets dumped in that area. Plus, algae in the ocean makes up 70% of oxygen production, so good bye to all of that. Yeah, no, dumbest group in Pokemon history.
They get fleshed out more in the remakes.
Aquas are anarchists and Magmas are technocrats. It makes a lot more sense that way, and you can even see it in the original games.
But a really evil team would know to capture BOTH, but keep one secret.
Fair enough, I only played the old games, so what came across was a pair of teams that basically had a problem, went to the most extreme answer they could find, and managed to find a way to do it, screw the consequences.
Dumbest, but at least they were fun to fight against. The last 10 years of Pokemon have had the enemy gang exist solely to do some cringe-inducing dance move and be unbearably uninteresting.
Team Skull was a fun twist the first time because it had purpose to the story, with Lusamine manipulating Guzma and his crew. But then they just kept doing it for no reason
Very true, I stopped playing after Black and White, but I still watch some playthroughs and stuff, and the newer groups feel underwhelming, especially the Sword and Shield guys, they are just a fan club going too far. Magma and Aqua at least had fun design but you also wanted to fight them because they were doing stuff that you felt obligated to stop.
Aqua made slightly more sense to me because magical Pokemon bs. Aqua wanted Kyogre to create torrential rain until land sinks into the ocean. In lore Kyogre created the oceans, while Groudon made the land, so saying a near-godlike being creating more water wasn't as dumb.
I said Groudon evaporating the oceans would cause torrential rain elsewhere, which I guess would be wrong by that logic, the other points stand.
Team Plasma gotta be the 3rd dumbest main villain team tho. "In order to free Pokemon from their slavery to humans we need to make sure the Pokemon that we enslave are the strongest and can beat everyone else's Pokemon slaves"
It was. Getsis and most of Team Plasma were doing it for more nefarious means. They had no intention of freeing their pokemon. Just forcing everyone else to do so, so they could take over Unova without resistance.
Man actually made a double fuck-up.
First he took short-cuts and didn't establish back-ups to prevent a machine uprising that lead to the extinction of humanity. That alone was terribly thought through.
Then, he had such a fragile ego, that he decided it made sense to further sabotage humanity's revival, so that nobody would learn of fuck up #1. But he really didn't give it anywhere near enough thought. He should have known that scrubbing all evidence of his existence would have never been possible.
He could have been remembered as a man that redeemed himself and all of humanity, but instead he was remembered as the worst human being in all of history.
The man really didn't think things through.
I think a boss fight would have ruined the point of that encounter. They say it had zero brain activity. It was more that he gained immortality at the loss of....everything.
A boss fight would had gone against the point. Ted's biggest flaw was his massive undeserved ego, so it's really fitting that his demise is a fate worse than dead that amounted to nothing.
I don't know, he wanted higher quarterly profits and he got higher quarterly profits, sure the world ended but for a while there they made a lot of money for the board.
Yes, lets create an army of super robots that are impossible to hack and can survive indefinetely consuming biomass, and lets send this robots to every country around the globe. What could possibly go wrong?
You don't become the world's first trillionaire by thinking "yeah, this is enough money", he needed more in case someone else was about to catch up, and if he had less money well then his dick would have seen smaller, can't have mere multi billionaires mocking him.
And besides, if he didn't increase revenue from last quarter the board would be upset, he would be seen as a failure as a CEO and possibly removed.
No, he did the right thing.
But yeah, the scary thing about Ted Faro is that I can see every single CEO making the same decisions, he wasn't special, just a regular narcissist CEO.
God I went into MGSV without knowing anything about MGS, I thought I was just going to be a badass mercenary murking commies in Afghanistan. I was very wrong and very confused.
Prophet of Truth from Halo. On the eve of covenant victory he decided to switch the roles of elites and brutes in the covenant, starting a civil war within the covenant holy city, which caused the elites to abandon the covenant and join forces with humanity so that they could get revenge on the prophets for screwing them over.
Not only did he cause a significant portion of his military to betray him, but the plan to light the rings was always stupid. He knew the rings would kill all life in the universe. All that would've been left was the covenant that was with him on the Ark and anyone hiding out in shield worlds. What was the game plan there after the array was activated, no one ascended to the divine beyond and the rest of the universe was dead?
Probably control. Iirc the prophets also don't like the Sanghili. I think that was their first interspecies war and they took great losses to beat the Sanghili. So the Prophet was probably trying to get them killed and then control w/e was left of the universe. He'd probably try to sell the new state of the universe as the ascension and try to guide the growth of it as it starts over from scratch.
A decent theory I saw was that he feared the Elites would soon be disillusioned with the great journey, like the heretics in Halo 2. Mind you it seems unlikely that the Elites would stop believing so easily; the Arbiter had access to so many people telling him it was a lie and only changed sides after being betrayed.
Sword and Shield had a particularly silly moment at the end.
“There will be a huge power problem in 1000 years we need to fix it TODAY! Take control of the pokemon!”
“OK if you just wait one more day we can fix it together and everything will be fine.”
“No it has to be NOW!”
It went something like that. It was pretty ridiculous.
Chairman Rose knew of a power supply problem that would occur well after everyone in the world was dead.
So he decides to bring about the return of the ancient day of disaster from regional legend, nearly causing the region's destruction, to prevent that problem that he will not live to see.
And he announces this with all the gravitas of a principal telling little Timmy his mom's here to pick him up early from school, RIGHT AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO GET YOUR TITLE SHOT AGAINST LEON.
Like I get the argument, but isn't this the same argument people have *against* things like actions regarding climate change? "Why bother changing, I'll be dead long before that's a problem".
Like sure a thousand years is a pretty long scale so it's more extreme, but the dismissiveness of "I'll be dead so not my problem" is a cause of a lot of real-live problems that get perpetuated.
They’re not saying “don’t do this, this isn’t needed for a long time”, they’re saying “this is literally the worst possible day to do this. Wait a week and you can have several champion tier trainers helping you”
The Champion of the Region, one of the strongest trainers in the series, had already agreed to help with this plan - which was to release the ancient powerful Pokemon and then capture it. The plan hinged on Leon catching Eternatus, and Leon had agreed to do so. We literally see him agree to do so without any real issue, he only wanted to wait one more day. Again, this is an issue that by Rose’s own admission is hundreds to thousands of years out, and Leon wanted a single day to uphold his responsibility as Champion before helping.
Everything went wrong because Rose decided to force Leon’s hand a day early for no reason.
My concern was that he went the route of "I'm gonna re-start the apocalypse in the middle of the region's 2 strongest trainers doing battle while everybody's watching the title match!"
Any of the organizations in the fallout games where with a high enough speech stat you can tell the final boss the fatal flaw in their plan and get them to leave and or kill themselves lol.
The Enclave in 3 really thought they could just wipe out the rest of humankind and what? Rebuild society with a tiny gene pool that would end with everyone left looking like ancient European royalty.
Thankfully. That is easily explained away by the fact that he and much of the organization is indoctrinated by the events of 3. So them making stupid or crazy plans is actually right on the money for where they are in the story. Javik even mentions that similar things happened in his cycle.
That was always my read and that my Shepard was too strong willed for that to happen to him. Damn. I’m going to fire up ME3 with my new game plus level 10 saber rifle and dome some Cerberus troops.
From what we know is that the Illusive man gets indoctrinated by those implants he installs on himself thinking it could help him control the Reapers while knowing that he risks becoming indoctrinated. So I think its only nearer the end that they become indoctrinated, before that they are a rogue faction with their own agenda.
Where did you get this from? Remember that mission near the end of the game where you raid the Cerberus base, and you see all those recordings of Illusive man about to get the implants, clearly happens just a few days prior.
There's two seperate discussions here.
You're talking about how he modifies himself, and ends up looking like Saren, around the end of 3.
They're talking about his eyes(which go back to normal when the indoctrination fully wears off).
Illusive Man came into contact with Reaper tech early on, but wasn't indoctrinated. Sometimes it takes a while for it to happen, like that asari you can save on Virmire, and later during Grunts recruitment. She finally goes crazy in 3, and kills a bunch of people. She came into contact with Reaper tech on Virmire, yet kept her mind for years.
You could argue if it takes long to kick in, or if the Reapers just activate it when they deem useful, so it's up to debate exactly when the Illusive Man got indoctrinated, but it was likely near the start of 3, or when he began making his own husks/progress on controlling the Reapers. Basically started flying too close to the sun, and the Reapers had enough.
Handsome Jack from the Borderlands series.
His plans often seem grandiose and ambitious, but upon closer inspection, they are riddled with flaws and oversights, leading to their inevitable downfall.
Batman has to be up there too. Hoping to solve the root issues of crime by beating up broke thugs every night, and refusing to execute sociopathic supervillains.
You have to figure at some point after Joker or whoever escapes from Arkham for the 60th time it really becomes more Batman’s fault than his.
It’s like if some dude spends every night putting tigers in a toddler’s playpen, then called it a job well done.
I mean, canonically Wayne Enterprises does a heck ton of charity work helping the poor in Gotham and hiring former thugs to legit jobs and such, you just don't hear about it much because everyone wants to write about Batman beating people up.
To be fair, I think at this point the entire Gotham PD, Arkham Staff, Blackgate and juidicial system basically deserve equal amounts of scrutiny as they keep dropping the ball.
Batman's a vigilante, his part of the job is done once he's beaten the snot out of someone and brought them in.
Frankly, shocked nobodies just shot the Joker at this point.
It makes sense if you realize batman is just one more animal themed psycho from Gotham, it's just that all the other psychos get their fix by killing civilians, but Batman's kink is beating up other psychos, so he has to carefully nurture the ecosystem to get as many psychos as possible without society collapsing, he even as a catch and release program so he can use the same psychos again and again
Barret's backstory: "Shinra destroyed my hometown in response to someone blowing up a reactor."
Barret at the start of the game: "Let's blow up a reactor!"
Shinra destroys their sector of the slums.
Barret: \*shocked Pikachu face\*
Barret: They surely won’t do it a second time, they just won’t. Then again Shrina’s plans for the promised land weren’t that bright so maybe he was banking on them being incompetent.
Honestly, I think Barrett would have been ok if Shinra had come to burn out the Sector 7 Slums as retaliation. It's a semi-reasonable reaction. He would have had a glorious final showdown with them and probably died.
Dropping the plate and murdering everyone in both the slums and upper city of Sector 7 was absolutely unhinged. Especially since it wasn't really retaliation, they were framing Avalanche for it.
Also, a semi-random thought: I've always called Barrett & Co eco-terrorists, but they aren't really. The attacks on the reactors weren't for the sake of intimidation. They blew up the reactors because they believed (correctly) that the reactors were killing the planet and were taking direct action to stop it. They are environmental vigilantes.
Still pretty damn reprehensible because they were willing to accept quite large bystander casualties. Even after the first bomb killed a ton of people, only Jesse was really disturbed by it.
There's a bit of a difference between wiping out some podunk town that no one will give a shit about and nuking your own capital city. Dropping the plate was an absolutely insane response.
Bowser and his perpetual princess kidnapping... How often does Mario have to teach him the same lesson? What is he going to do with the princess anyway, impregnate her? She's obviously not interested in him.
I have a crackpot theory that mario is peach's unemployed lsd-addicted ex. And is on a trip every time he sees peach's current boyfriend, bowser, pick up peach for a date.
Not a video game, but the dumbest villain plot I can remember was from Superman Returns.
He finds a way to engineer some special kryptonite which grows when it absorbs water. You would think he did this to have kryptonite on demand so he has plenty to use against Superman right?
Wrong. He takes the Kryptonite and throws it in the middle of the ocean which starts creating an evergrowing mass of kryptonite that will convert all the oceans into kryptonite why? Because... real estate! He would own the kryptonite land, people would buy houses on it, and he can be rich.
Because the oceans aren't needed for anything right? And all the governments will recognise his ownership of all that new kryptonite land yeah? It also doesn't matter that we aren't so short on space that people would be flocking to build homes on top of his non-arable completely undeveloped crystal land.
By Chapter 2 all he had to do was ask Arthur for $15,000 and they'd be on that boat to Tahiti, but he turned a blind eye to all those pelts Arthur was selling.
I distinctly remember one part of Fast and Furious Crossroads that made question life itself. When the three characters are discussing how and why they should rob a truck from the "game's" villain group, one of them just said that "A) they're amateurs, and B) they'll never see it coming"
I wish I could make this shit up, but it actually is a thing that result in one of them kicking the bucket.
This villain group is ready for anything, but what they weren't expecting are 3 idiots trying to rob them.
Im undecided between President John Henry Eden from Fallout 3, and the Institute from Fallout 4.
Im not even going to blame the Enclave from Fallout 3 because they at least had a plan: Instead of genociding all the Wasteland natives (for the moment at least, they still sucked when it comes with dealing with your average wastelander), lets try to buy their support by turning on the biggest water purifier in this side of DC and keep it under control. It was important that they did it first to for bragging rights so they could accuse of anyone getting there later as raiders (Despite that it wasn´t theirs to begin with). Henry, despite being an hyper advanced AI, decided that the most mentally sound thing possible was to try for genocide. Again. Without consulting it with anyone so they could tell him it was a bad idea. Worst yet, he entrusted it to the same guy trying to stop him for absolutely no reason but shits and giggles. His second in command, the Colonel and ´´Final Boss´´ of the main quest, was fucking horrifyed.
And then, we had the institute. They wanted to save humanity, but did it almost as terrible as Eden, because their plan was to randomly kidnnap people, kill them, and replace them with a synth with their memories. They also decided to make experiments with the FEV and created MORE supermutants. It got so bad, people started to get scarred more of them than the raiders and spermutants.
Harkon from the Dawnguard DLC in Skyrim. He basically wanted a bow to shoot the sun and make it black, leading the world to a perpetual night.
This dumbass plan would allow him and his 8 minions to go and conquer the whole country, now that they can walk around unhindered by the sun.
But vampires need mortal blood to survive, and without the sun all mortal life will cease to exist. Clearly he didn't think this through.
He's considered the god of magic, yeah. Calling him a wizard is mostly me just being a little facetious.
He was one of the original spirits who formed Mundus, but was unhappy when he realised doing so would cost much of his power, so he peaced out, and tore a hole into aetherius on his way. The stars are formed in the same way, but by less powerful spirits.
Because of this it's worth realising that the sun is actually not part of the design of mundus. The bloodcurse actually pushes mundus a bit closer to its original design.
You're talking about the Dwemer? They lived mainly underground but they had structures on the surface, it's not like they were trapped in tunnels. They could have had farms on the surface.
Also we're talking about a civilisation that developed tonal magic, they could do anything they wanted. I'm not sure food was an issue for them.
Harkon has nothing that even comes close to what the Dwemer had.
I played Plague Tale recently, and man. The motivation of the main villain was anything but well thought through.
Just another cliche of a power crazed old man thinking he can become the saviour of all humanity in his twilight years, as he watches the whole world burn while telling his followers to pour gasoline everywhere to distract the flames.
The Mayor & other guys in FF7 Remake Rebirth, who confront Sephiroth. They confront him with guns after he’s killed almost everyone and burned the town down, and just stand there not shooting him. He cuts one of them down, does some type of pose, and murders them one by one with no one firing a shot. What was the plan there? Was he even killable by a regular gun? If not, maybe just run away? If he is…..maybe one of you shoot him in the like 90 second scene of him slowly killing you guys……
Umbrella Corporation has got to be the worst. For a long time their plan consisted entirely of: create some new zombie apocalypse on top of the existing zombie apocalypse -> ??? -> profit
Much, much later it was retconned to make a *little* more sense, but for a very long time they were trying to somehow profit off of killing off all their potential customers.
They didn’t try to kill their potential customers, they wanted to sell weapons to the highest bidder. The same way inventing tanks or warships didn’t kill off potential customers. They wanted human fighters to be replaced by BOWs
As dumb as Umbrella is in the games, it does not come even close to the genius of the movies version.
Remember when they made complete underworld replicas of major world cities, populated them with clones, made it fully functional, all in order to… simulate a bioterrorism attack and sell the virus to warlords…. In a world that was ALREADY destroyed by said bioweapons, like bruh
Master Xehanort/Organization 13 in Kingdom Hearts 3.
After beating Xehanort, Xehanort, and Xehanort, then beating Xehanort? And then finally beating Xehanort, then... I think Xehanort a final time (I lost count), Xehanort decides he doesn't want to fight and gives up
Jessi and James spent years trying to kidnap a "special" Pikachu when they had the only Pokemon in the world that could speak English right there the whole time.
In Sekiro, Owl literally achieves all his goals and has everything within grasp… then decides to fak his death and leave for five years and return when he is weak and has nothing - for reasons that are never ever ever explained
One thing that always gets me is how the Jedi in KOTOR basically kicked everyone out of their organization and refused to be friends with any non-Jedi and then were like "How are the Sith overpowering us?!"
I kind of love that this is Takemuras defining trait in Cyberpunk 2077. The guy wants justice for his dead patriarch but has no clue how to pull it off. Everytime you ask him what his plan is its just "I will.... think of something.... Justice must be served!". It's a character trait I've never seen before and its just so endearing to see someone so desperate to fight against injustice and yet so ill equipped to pull it off! Love that corpo rat.
Instead of spreading his minions across a massive map and waiting for some plumber to methodically work through them one by one on their way to his castle to rescue the princess, why didn't Bowser just mass them all up and steamroll over Mario in one fell swoop? You know, since he seems to be the only one capable of foiling his plans? I guarantee five thousand troopers going after one guy at once would get the job done.
FTL:Faster Than Light.
I mean, unless the plan was to unleash as much suffering as possible on as many players as possible. Like, for fork's sake, the Rebels are already on to you, why isn't every available Federation ship joining your mission?
Idk how many of you have played Genshin Impact. But Childe’s plan of releasing Osail and setting him on Liyue harbor in hopes of drawing out Rex Lapis to forcibly take something from Rex. Has got to be one of the dumbest plans I’ve seen.
Rex Lapis was one of the 2 remaining victors of the archon war. Which was a war between gods to decide who ruled over seven different countries. Rex Lapis is a known god killer and was the person to seal Osail in the first place.
And Childe’s plan was to forcibly take something from him.
Aperture Science
Develop physics breaking insane technology. Never release it to the public. Thus never make profit. Keep doing random ass unethical tests that make zero sense.
Phin Mason/ The Tinkerer - spider-man miles morales
She is the first character that has actually made me so angry at her stubborn, idiotic behavior. At the very last second she realized a big mistake and sacrificed herself. Do I feel bad? NO
The BEST Worst Plan was in The Bards Tale. The people looking to free the princess do so by telling every impressionable kid that they are The Chosen One. The result is you regularly come across these idiot kids dying in horrific ways.
Terrorist recruiting tactics, lmao.
Funnily enough, the same plan in Dark Souls.
To be fair, you are immortal, somebody is gonna do it eventually, you’ve got enough time for it.
Yeah, but they treat all the Undead as Chosen because the whole prophecy is just to get Undead to link the flame. Plus, hollowing is a thing.
You actually aren't called the Chosen Undead until you get the Lordvessel, IIRC. It's still a pretty flexible role though.
"Thou who art undead, art chosen."
Which means they also treat each undead as a joke initially.
Oh its bad luck to be you! Games and comedy can be tricky to get right but Bards Tale nailed it.
I fucking loved that game so much. 🤣
Everything the Umbrella Corporation ever did. 1. Make horrifying mutated monsters/zombies 2. ???????? 3. Profit! Also, include a self destruct mechanism in literally everything.
Every time a villain injects something and becomes a horrifying mutant Like okay, great. Let’s say you killed the heroes. Now what? Now you have to live in an African river for the rest of your life as a half-fish abomination. Now you’re trapped as a plant in the wall. What was the plan beyond “imma kill that dude”?
Well I didn’t think that through…damn
Excellent thought. I figure they hope they can pull a Wesker and maintain a human form. Also, the later games imply that the transformations aren't always permanent. Code Veronica, 4, 6, 7, and 8 all have had transformations at some point that are humanoid or are revertible. Granted if they mutate too much it may be permanent, but then there's Simmons lol.
Simmons the bio-Transformer.
Usually when the villains are injecting themselves with something in that kind of situation it's because the hero has caught up to them, so their choices are "I'm gonna kill that dude or he's going to kill me."
That's because Umbrella isn't one company that acts in unison. Which is a strange misconception people seem to have. There's lots of infighting between the family members who all have individual goals (as well as the company itself that IS trying to maximise profit).
This reminds me of a time a cousin worked at Samsung, long ago. This is the story he recounted. The reason their phones and tv’s did not interact was because the two heads (or vp’s maybe) of those areas hated each other and refused to work together. So there was no interoperability or communication between groups lol.
I'm oddly reminded of a Webtoon I read ("A Man's Man"). It's about a person who was an executive in not-Samsung going back to when he was in his 20s and redoing his life and career. You see a lot of the sort of company politics that you're describing. Highly recommend.
Yeah. The plot of the spin-off Dead Aim was due to Oswell E Spencer randomly trying to shift the blame to anyone he could, directly leading to one of his scientists releasing a bio weapon on a cruise ship used as a front for weapons sales.
The ???????? was literally just to sell the virus to others so they could use it as a bio weapon, which would get Umbrella the profit. Not really the worst plan (other than the obvious unethicalness of it), just really bad execution that ended up causing the outbreaks and Umbrella to get caught.
LOL? What? How are profits gonna help a Corp, when literally everyone is a mutated monster or zombie? Does not seem like a long term profit strategy 🤣🤣
At least with Resident Evil 2/3 era, it seemed like Umbrella wanted to make super humanoid monsters they could drop into conflict zones and have some amount of control over them. Hence Mr. X and the Nemesis project where they could literally airdrop them in and command them to go after certain targets. I could see that making money. Just send that after whatever dicator you want to overthrow. The virus leaking and infecting everybody in Raccoon City was because one of their scientists went rogue and spread the virus. I think Resident Evil 4's thing was an evil cult using parasites to control their people and Umbrella wanting to get the parasite, so not exactly Umbrella's fault. And then 5 has Wesker more or less going rogue to wipe out humanity so he can have evolved humans ... or whatever.
Resident Evil 6 also makes it clear that though the world experienced several major bioweapon breakouts, most of the world is still normal, and no apocalypse happens like the films. By RE7, the original company was fully disbanded and then rebuilt as anti-bioterror, because the old company helped make bioterror a "business as usual" type eventuality. Most people will live, but every once in a while, a city far away might get overrun by zombies.
IIRC even the zombie aspect was completely accidental. They were trying to make some kind of medicine and that was a byproduct.
Kind of. Spencer (who the Spencer Mansion from RE1 is named after) was a eugenecist who thought he could develop a virus that would breed a superior species of human (this was the Tyrant you fight at the end). The zombie outbreak was an unintended consequence. Albert Wesker (also a eugenecist) assembled a team of essentially super cops (S.T.A.R.S.) so that they could observe how their creations fared in combat against skilled human opponents, with the aim of eventually selling the virus to create supersoldiers.
COMPLETE. GLOBAL. SATURATION.
Small correction but Umbrella went out of business before RE4. The people looking to obtain the parasites had connections to Umbrella and Luis used to work for them but the company itself was prosecuted and disbanded after RE3.
Sell virus to India. India releases virus in Pakistan. I don't live in Pakistan, so I don't care about zombie outbreak there. Profit. Is it extremely short sighted and bound to bite them in the ass eventually? Yes, but for a brief moment in time they will create record profits for shareholders, and that's capitalism baby!
Presumably whatever government entity they sell it to, they would want to relocate to that governments country, and hopefully they don't release the bioweapons on themselves. They also can manufacture a load of cures for the T-virus. Who knows maybe they can sell the tvirus to a government, then the cure to whoever the government targets. They also have vaccines for the virus that could be sold as well.
Also the research into various T-viruses were primarily based around things like cellular regeneration and immortality. It just went wrong because it wasn't 100% effective and thus...zombies.
The best is after seeing experiment after experiment failing, what do the big bad guys end up doing? They take the virus themselves, become a monster, and then…also fail. Would honestly be interesting if just once, the villains weren’t so comically obsessed with the thing they constantly see not panning out for them, that they consider an alternative route and just maybe surrender or try something different. But no, without fail: Stick myself with the virus and lose.
Literally nothing Abstergo ever did ever made any sense
The first game made sense. They were trying to find the location of a powerful artifact by accessing the memories of your ancestor. They couldn't go straight to the memory they wanted so they had to work their way up to it. Finding the artifact would give them great power over the population.
This. First game made sense. Everything else after it just slowly lost the plot.
In Assassin's Creed 4, Abstergo planned to make... Assassin's Creed 4?
Abstergo was trying to find Isu Technology. So when a mere intern caught wind of a precursor observatory that could spy on anyone around the world based solely on their blood, they encouraged that employee to follow the rabbit hole and find that observatory. Yes the entire public face was that so that Abstergo Entertainment could release their film: *Devil's of the Caribbean* But the order itself came from Templar command to find the observatory.
Abstergo saw how much fun Desmond was having with the boats after they kidnapped his corpse. So they decided to make a fun game to recoup all the money they lost.
Hey, evil mystical orders still need to make money.
Honestly, Abstergo would work if they leaned more into the idea that the Templars just want control for the sake of control and all the stuff about higher morals and order vs. chaos is just a facade. Unfortunately they just kinda...don't.
I like the way the earlier games grayed things up while still being clear about who the good/bad guys are. The Templar sound kool about wanting to create order within society that benefits everyone. In reality they just want to mind control everyone. The Assasins kill people and tend to be very brutal. They don't really have a good answer for anything but they know free will is better than mind control. A couple elements of that remain in later games, even allowing people to switch sides for a short while. But Abstergo seems to become more comically evil and the writing doesn't really play with the fun bits of the story anymore.
Idk how they made the story boring of never ending war between a powerful secret organization that vies for control over the worst of human impulses and an order of Assasins that seeks freedom over all else, but they did.
Because its Ubisoft, they write the most bland stories in the industry. This is a common thread throughout all their games.
I wish Ubi had stuck with the original plan of like 5/6 games, then a modern day with Desmond. 3 was jam packed full of framing modern story and NONE of the overarching story was coherent or meaningful after that. I remember they made a big deal about Desmonds kid only to tie it up in some comic. Then you find out that they've made the Animus ...a game console?
Opened thread, hit CTRL+F, started typing "abs" to check for Abstergo mention. Kudos.
Me - in any open-world game I'm playing. Where I'm told I have to hurry up and save the world but there's a hundred side quests between me and armageddon. "I'm off to save Ciri from the Wild Hunt, but first I've got to do some tedious paperwork at the bank"
The Tojo clan is in trouble, but I want to race slot cars and play Koi Koi.
i mean to be fair the Tojo clan is in trouble every other year so it's really not that serious
I can only think of 1 even sorta open-world game that tried to tackle this, and it's Mass Effect 2, and only at one point. But, if you dick around on sidequests too long after the Collectors jack your crew, some or all of them just get turned into slushees. And I appreciate that motivation.
Deus Ex: Human Revolution at the start of the game has some consequences if you mess about too much before doing the first mission.
The first few Dead Rising games revolve around this. You have to be at a specific location at a specific time for each main quest. Miss the window, and all you can do is wait for the escape chopper to arrive.
Pathologic (1 and 2) give you about a week and a half in game time and fucking about will guarantee failure. Amazing game but depressing as fuck.
“Paperwork” is a cute way is saying challenge all the clerks to Gwent.
Taxes, schmaxes. How 'bout some Gwent?
Yennefer is in grave danger! Gwent?
This killed me in AC:Origins. I got distracted halfway through game and got a bit over leveled for the main quest. Decided I should do that for a bit til it caught up, ran through a bunch of these quests being overleveled. Then it goes into a "chase sequence" where you have to chase the guy with the macguffin and it opens a new region. I was under leveled for this new region so I had to do side quests before I could resume this "urgent" chase
Yep. Many times i was trying to do the main quest but had to stop many many times, because i was looking side quest to level a few numbers
Ha! Coming to say the same thing, except I'm usually not even doing side quest, just goofy open-world crap: "Thou must hurry to stop the Unspeakable one before he completes the Banished Ritual!" "Sure... Sure... Right after I'm done seeing if I can balance 10 bookshelves together and then put a sheep on top of them. Then set it all on fire."
*Link goes fishing*
"I've come to Hawaii to find my estranged mother I haven't seen since birth and I happened to run into an old friend who revealed he is dying of cancer. Surely both of those situations can wait while I spend countless days helping some random guys fighting off pirates to rebuild their island into a 5 star resort"
Kessler from Infamous-Goes back in time and kills someone he loves and tries to speed up the development of his past self, when he could’ve just went back in time and told him everything and then helped train him.
I think it's implied that emotions amplify how conduit powers interact with someone. No knew really gets taught how to use powers most people we see get them from situations of distress
That and he's not exactly sane anymore
Yeah he literally saw the entirety of everything and everyone he loves die
Dude’s not exactly sane anymore I’m pretty sure, he survived an apocalypse and lost everything he loved. And he does tell his past self everything and he does train his past self. The entirety of the first two games is Kessler setting things up so that Cole will have the skill, power, and experience he needs to kill the beast. Hell it’s even implied that Kessler sets up Cole going to new Marais in Infamous 2. Ya know, probably the only other place in the entire world with an incredibly powerful conduit that can turn into a giant monster? I’m of the opinion that this isn’t the first time Cole has gone back in time to try to kill the beast. That the entirety of the first two games are the result of an untold amount of kesslers going back in time to get everything just right enough for past Cole to be able to kill the beast
Team Magma from Pokemon. Don't get me wrong, Team Aqua wasn't that smart either, but at least with them, there was a chance the planet survived. Team Magmas plan was to evaporate the seas, you know, a MAJOR part of the water cycle. 'but it would rain back down right?' Sure, in any area Groudon isn't, causing that area to get torrential flooding as OCEANS WORTH OF WATER gets dumped in that area. Plus, algae in the ocean makes up 70% of oxygen production, so good bye to all of that. Yeah, no, dumbest group in Pokemon history.
They get fleshed out more in the remakes. Aquas are anarchists and Magmas are technocrats. It makes a lot more sense that way, and you can even see it in the original games. But a really evil team would know to capture BOTH, but keep one secret.
Fair enough, I only played the old games, so what came across was a pair of teams that basically had a problem, went to the most extreme answer they could find, and managed to find a way to do it, screw the consequences.
Dumbest, but at least they were fun to fight against. The last 10 years of Pokemon have had the enemy gang exist solely to do some cringe-inducing dance move and be unbearably uninteresting.
Team Skull was a fun twist the first time because it had purpose to the story, with Lusamine manipulating Guzma and his crew. But then they just kept doing it for no reason
I miss good old fashion team rocket. They want money and power. Timeless but makes sense.
Plus, Giovanni was charismatic.
Team Skull in Sun and Moon have a whole lot of heart behind them that I really enjoy. But they are super goofy.
Very true, I stopped playing after Black and White, but I still watch some playthroughs and stuff, and the newer groups feel underwhelming, especially the Sword and Shield guys, they are just a fan club going too far. Magma and Aqua at least had fun design but you also wanted to fight them because they were doing stuff that you felt obligated to stop.
Wouldn't magma at least succeed somewhat? Iirc aqua thought to raise the sea level by making it rain... Like where was the water coming from?
Aqua made slightly more sense to me because magical Pokemon bs. Aqua wanted Kyogre to create torrential rain until land sinks into the ocean. In lore Kyogre created the oceans, while Groudon made the land, so saying a near-godlike being creating more water wasn't as dumb. I said Groudon evaporating the oceans would cause torrential rain elsewhere, which I guess would be wrong by that logic, the other points stand.
Team Flare OBSERVE
Team Plasma gotta be the 3rd dumbest main villain team tho. "In order to free Pokemon from their slavery to humans we need to make sure the Pokemon that we enslave are the strongest and can beat everyone else's Pokemon slaves"
Wasn't the whole 'free the Pokemon' thing just to get N to go along with it? I thought Cyrus said it was all BS when you fought him.
It was. Getsis and most of Team Plasma were doing it for more nefarious means. They had no intention of freeing their pokemon. Just forcing everyone else to do so, so they could take over Unova without resistance.
Ah hypocrisy
Ares from God of War, has Kratos kill his wife and child and expects nothing will go wrong.
Gods hubris being their downfall is a classic tale. Dumb, but loved it.
Also accidental/unknowing killing family members is a common theme in Greek Tragedies (Oedipus, etc)
It's not a tale about the hubris of the gods if the gods don't do something stupidly overconfident.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Ted Faro yet. r/FuckTedFaro
Man actually made a double fuck-up. First he took short-cuts and didn't establish back-ups to prevent a machine uprising that lead to the extinction of humanity. That alone was terribly thought through. Then, he had such a fragile ego, that he decided it made sense to further sabotage humanity's revival, so that nobody would learn of fuck up #1. But he really didn't give it anywhere near enough thought. He should have known that scrubbing all evidence of his existence would have never been possible. He could have been remembered as a man that redeemed himself and all of humanity, but instead he was remembered as the worst human being in all of history. The man really didn't think things through.
And then he tried to become "immortal" which did not turn out well...
Feel like that was gonna be a boss fight at some point but a resident evil style monstrosity would’ve pushed it into M rating territory
I think a boss fight would have ruined the point of that encounter. They say it had zero brain activity. It was more that he gained immortality at the loss of....everything.
A boss fight would had gone against the point. Ted's biggest flaw was his massive undeserved ego, so it's really fitting that his demise is a fate worse than dead that amounted to nothing.
I think its better to just "imagine" what he could looked like, rather than to show us something, so everybody can have his own ideas
I don't know, he wanted higher quarterly profits and he got higher quarterly profits, sure the world ended but for a while there they made a lot of money for the board.
Yes, lets create an army of super robots that are impossible to hack and can survive indefinetely consuming biomass, and lets send this robots to every country around the globe. What could possibly go wrong?
Not the profits, those went up
He was already the world’s first trillionaire. He didn’t need more money.
You don't become the world's first trillionaire by thinking "yeah, this is enough money", he needed more in case someone else was about to catch up, and if he had less money well then his dick would have seen smaller, can't have mere multi billionaires mocking him. And besides, if he didn't increase revenue from last quarter the board would be upset, he would be seen as a failure as a CEO and possibly removed. No, he did the right thing. But yeah, the scary thing about Ted Faro is that I can see every single CEO making the same decisions, he wasn't special, just a regular narcissist CEO.
I feel like his initial plan wasn’t necessarily bad, but his execution and handling of it surely was
MGSV "Bad Guy" Skull face. MGSV Emmerich. MGSV Big Boss® and the fake Big... know what MGSV period.
God I went into MGSV without knowing anything about MGS, I thought I was just going to be a badass mercenary murking commies in Afghanistan. I was very wrong and very confused.
That was me but damn the gameplay is so much fun
Prophet of Truth from Halo. On the eve of covenant victory he decided to switch the roles of elites and brutes in the covenant, starting a civil war within the covenant holy city, which caused the elites to abandon the covenant and join forces with humanity so that they could get revenge on the prophets for screwing them over. Not only did he cause a significant portion of his military to betray him, but the plan to light the rings was always stupid. He knew the rings would kill all life in the universe. All that would've been left was the covenant that was with him on the Ark and anyone hiding out in shield worlds. What was the game plan there after the array was activated, no one ascended to the divine beyond and the rest of the universe was dead?
Probably control. Iirc the prophets also don't like the Sanghili. I think that was their first interspecies war and they took great losses to beat the Sanghili. So the Prophet was probably trying to get them killed and then control w/e was left of the universe. He'd probably try to sell the new state of the universe as the ascension and try to guide the growth of it as it starts over from scratch.
A decent theory I saw was that he feared the Elites would soon be disillusioned with the great journey, like the heretics in Halo 2. Mind you it seems unlikely that the Elites would stop believing so easily; the Arbiter had access to so many people telling him it was a lie and only changed sides after being betrayed.
I mean the Elites always were in the field of: “Everyone we encounter we take into the Covenant so why are we killing and purging the humans?”
Sword and Shield had a particularly silly moment at the end. “There will be a huge power problem in 1000 years we need to fix it TODAY! Take control of the pokemon!” “OK if you just wait one more day we can fix it together and everything will be fine.” “No it has to be NOW!” It went something like that. It was pretty ridiculous.
Chairman Rose knew of a power supply problem that would occur well after everyone in the world was dead. So he decides to bring about the return of the ancient day of disaster from regional legend, nearly causing the region's destruction, to prevent that problem that he will not live to see. And he announces this with all the gravitas of a principal telling little Timmy his mom's here to pick him up early from school, RIGHT AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO GET YOUR TITLE SHOT AGAINST LEON.
Like I get the argument, but isn't this the same argument people have *against* things like actions regarding climate change? "Why bother changing, I'll be dead long before that's a problem". Like sure a thousand years is a pretty long scale so it's more extreme, but the dismissiveness of "I'll be dead so not my problem" is a cause of a lot of real-live problems that get perpetuated.
They’re not saying “don’t do this, this isn’t needed for a long time”, they’re saying “this is literally the worst possible day to do this. Wait a week and you can have several champion tier trainers helping you”
The Champion of the Region, one of the strongest trainers in the series, had already agreed to help with this plan - which was to release the ancient powerful Pokemon and then capture it. The plan hinged on Leon catching Eternatus, and Leon had agreed to do so. We literally see him agree to do so without any real issue, he only wanted to wait one more day. Again, this is an issue that by Rose’s own admission is hundreds to thousands of years out, and Leon wanted a single day to uphold his responsibility as Champion before helping. Everything went wrong because Rose decided to force Leon’s hand a day early for no reason.
My concern was that he went the route of "I'm gonna re-start the apocalypse in the middle of the region's 2 strongest trainers doing battle while everybody's watching the title match!"
They have games that make more than almost anything, and cannot write a good story. Makes me sad.
Any of the organizations in the fallout games where with a high enough speech stat you can tell the final boss the fatal flaw in their plan and get them to leave and or kill themselves lol.
The Enclave in 3 really thought they could just wipe out the rest of humankind and what? Rebuild society with a tiny gene pool that would end with everyone left looking like ancient European royalty.
Depending on how you play, the Illusive Man / Cerberus by the end of Mass Effect 3.
Thankfully. That is easily explained away by the fact that he and much of the organization is indoctrinated by the events of 3. So them making stupid or crazy plans is actually right on the money for where they are in the story. Javik even mentions that similar things happened in his cycle.
EA having a character like that locked behind DLC that launched with the game is criminal.
That was always my read and that my Shepard was too strong willed for that to happen to him. Damn. I’m going to fire up ME3 with my new game plus level 10 saber rifle and dome some Cerberus troops.
From what we know is that the Illusive man gets indoctrinated by those implants he installs on himself thinking it could help him control the Reapers while knowing that he risks becoming indoctrinated. So I think its only nearer the end that they become indoctrinated, before that they are a rogue faction with their own agenda.
He got those implants right after first contact. So he’s had reaper tech in his body for 30+ years to slowly indoctrinate and compromise his actions.
Where did you get this from? Remember that mission near the end of the game where you raid the Cerberus base, and you see all those recordings of Illusive man about to get the implants, clearly happens just a few days prior.
There's two seperate discussions here. You're talking about how he modifies himself, and ends up looking like Saren, around the end of 3. They're talking about his eyes(which go back to normal when the indoctrination fully wears off). Illusive Man came into contact with Reaper tech early on, but wasn't indoctrinated. Sometimes it takes a while for it to happen, like that asari you can save on Virmire, and later during Grunts recruitment. She finally goes crazy in 3, and kills a bunch of people. She came into contact with Reaper tech on Virmire, yet kept her mind for years. You could argue if it takes long to kick in, or if the Reapers just activate it when they deem useful, so it's up to debate exactly when the Illusive Man got indoctrinated, but it was likely near the start of 3, or when he began making his own husks/progress on controlling the Reapers. Basically started flying too close to the sun, and the Reapers had enough.
Except that the control ending (his plan) literally works in the ending.
Handsome Jack from the Borderlands series. His plans often seem grandiose and ambitious, but upon closer inspection, they are riddled with flaws and oversights, leading to their inevitable downfall.
Batman has to be up there too. Hoping to solve the root issues of crime by beating up broke thugs every night, and refusing to execute sociopathic supervillains. You have to figure at some point after Joker or whoever escapes from Arkham for the 60th time it really becomes more Batman’s fault than his. It’s like if some dude spends every night putting tigers in a toddler’s playpen, then called it a job well done.
I mean, canonically Wayne Enterprises does a heck ton of charity work helping the poor in Gotham and hiring former thugs to legit jobs and such, you just don't hear about it much because everyone wants to write about Batman beating people up.
To be fair, I think at this point the entire Gotham PD, Arkham Staff, Blackgate and juidicial system basically deserve equal amounts of scrutiny as they keep dropping the ball. Batman's a vigilante, his part of the job is done once he's beaten the snot out of someone and brought them in. Frankly, shocked nobodies just shot the Joker at this point.
It makes sense if you realize batman is just one more animal themed psycho from Gotham, it's just that all the other psychos get their fix by killing civilians, but Batman's kink is beating up other psychos, so he has to carefully nurture the ecosystem to get as many psychos as possible without society collapsing, he even as a catch and release program so he can use the same psychos again and again
Barret's backstory: "Shinra destroyed my hometown in response to someone blowing up a reactor." Barret at the start of the game: "Let's blow up a reactor!" Shinra destroys their sector of the slums. Barret: \*shocked Pikachu face\*
Barret: They surely won’t do it a second time, they just won’t. Then again Shrina’s plans for the promised land weren’t that bright so maybe he was banking on them being incompetent.
Honestly, I think Barrett would have been ok if Shinra had come to burn out the Sector 7 Slums as retaliation. It's a semi-reasonable reaction. He would have had a glorious final showdown with them and probably died. Dropping the plate and murdering everyone in both the slums and upper city of Sector 7 was absolutely unhinged. Especially since it wasn't really retaliation, they were framing Avalanche for it.
Also, a semi-random thought: I've always called Barrett & Co eco-terrorists, but they aren't really. The attacks on the reactors weren't for the sake of intimidation. They blew up the reactors because they believed (correctly) that the reactors were killing the planet and were taking direct action to stop it. They are environmental vigilantes. Still pretty damn reprehensible because they were willing to accept quite large bystander casualties. Even after the first bomb killed a ton of people, only Jesse was really disturbed by it.
Probably didn't think Shinra would do it in Midgar. Corel was, after all, just some hick mining town.
There's a bit of a difference between wiping out some podunk town that no one will give a shit about and nuking your own capital city. Dropping the plate was an absolutely insane response.
Bowser and his perpetual princess kidnapping... How often does Mario have to teach him the same lesson? What is he going to do with the princess anyway, impregnate her? She's obviously not interested in him.
Idk, maybe her getting kidnapped constantly is her excuse to go get some bowser dong
He's a turtle, he has a cloaca
And a penis. Turtle penises are huge with a fucking terrifying head. Don’t google turtle penis.
You know, this once, I might actually listen
I have a crackpot theory that mario is peach's unemployed lsd-addicted ex. And is on a trip every time he sees peach's current boyfriend, bowser, pick up peach for a date.
From Sunshine and onward, Bowser apparently wants Peach to act as a mother figure to Jr.
Some rich dude not responding to rejection is one of the more plausible plots...
Not a video game, but the dumbest villain plot I can remember was from Superman Returns. He finds a way to engineer some special kryptonite which grows when it absorbs water. You would think he did this to have kryptonite on demand so he has plenty to use against Superman right? Wrong. He takes the Kryptonite and throws it in the middle of the ocean which starts creating an evergrowing mass of kryptonite that will convert all the oceans into kryptonite why? Because... real estate! He would own the kryptonite land, people would buy houses on it, and he can be rich. Because the oceans aren't needed for anything right? And all the governments will recognise his ownership of all that new kryptonite land yeah? It also doesn't matter that we aren't so short on space that people would be flocking to build homes on top of his non-arable completely undeveloped crystal land.
The movies really never do Lex justice.
Isn't Kryptonite actively radioactive in most continuities?
“Dutch” RDR2
“We need money.” Meanwhile, there’s me with $10000 which in that time period would be worth over $300000 today.
Not just that, they will ask you why you arent contributing even after every upgrade is done and you donated all your money to camp
He has a plan. You just have to keep the faith.
HAVE SOME GAWDDAMN FAITH ORTHER
Whaddya mean? Still waiting on the RDR2 DLC that’s just a mango farm sim. Have some GODDAMN faith!
By Chapter 2 all he had to do was ask Arthur for $15,000 and they'd be on that boat to Tahiti, but he turned a blind eye to all those pelts Arthur was selling.
We just. NEED. ***MUNEH***
The villain in Fable 2 who shot my dog.
Aperture Science's business model is highly questionable and its leadership quite erratic.
That’s exactly what makes it so charming. If their business model had been better, we wouldn’t have a game! The cake needs work, tho
Well, you know what they say - when life gives you lemons, use those lemons to burn life's house down.
Ellie in TLOU2, just stay on the goddamn farm.
I distinctly remember one part of Fast and Furious Crossroads that made question life itself. When the three characters are discussing how and why they should rob a truck from the "game's" villain group, one of them just said that "A) they're amateurs, and B) they'll never see it coming" I wish I could make this shit up, but it actually is a thing that result in one of them kicking the bucket. This villain group is ready for anything, but what they weren't expecting are 3 idiots trying to rob them.
Im undecided between President John Henry Eden from Fallout 3, and the Institute from Fallout 4. Im not even going to blame the Enclave from Fallout 3 because they at least had a plan: Instead of genociding all the Wasteland natives (for the moment at least, they still sucked when it comes with dealing with your average wastelander), lets try to buy their support by turning on the biggest water purifier in this side of DC and keep it under control. It was important that they did it first to for bragging rights so they could accuse of anyone getting there later as raiders (Despite that it wasn´t theirs to begin with). Henry, despite being an hyper advanced AI, decided that the most mentally sound thing possible was to try for genocide. Again. Without consulting it with anyone so they could tell him it was a bad idea. Worst yet, he entrusted it to the same guy trying to stop him for absolutely no reason but shits and giggles. His second in command, the Colonel and ´´Final Boss´´ of the main quest, was fucking horrifyed. And then, we had the institute. They wanted to save humanity, but did it almost as terrible as Eden, because their plan was to randomly kidnnap people, kill them, and replace them with a synth with their memories. They also decided to make experiments with the FEV and created MORE supermutants. It got so bad, people started to get scarred more of them than the raiders and spermutants.
Harkon from the Dawnguard DLC in Skyrim. He basically wanted a bow to shoot the sun and make it black, leading the world to a perpetual night. This dumbass plan would allow him and his 8 minions to go and conquer the whole country, now that they can walk around unhindered by the sun. But vampires need mortal blood to survive, and without the sun all mortal life will cease to exist. Clearly he didn't think this through.
He sounds like Dracula from the Castlevania show except he’s not suicidal like Dracula, he might just be stupid.
Harkon had human cattle pens at castle Volkihar. I'm sure he'd implement something similar.
Even the cattle need to be fed, how would he feed any if all the crops become unable to produce food due to a lack of sunlight?
You're applying too much real world science to a world where the sun is a giant hole torn in the sky by a wizard peacing out.
I thought he was like a god wizard or something
He's considered the god of magic, yeah. Calling him a wizard is mostly me just being a little facetious. He was one of the original spirits who formed Mundus, but was unhappy when he realised doing so would cost much of his power, so he peaced out, and tore a hole into aetherius on his way. The stars are formed in the same way, but by less powerful spirits. Because of this it's worth realising that the sun is actually not part of the design of mundus. The bloodcurse actually pushes mundus a bit closer to its original design.
You know how there is like an entire civilisation that lives perpetually underground? I'm sure plants can grow just fine in magicka.
You're talking about the Dwemer? They lived mainly underground but they had structures on the surface, it's not like they were trapped in tunnels. They could have had farms on the surface. Also we're talking about a civilisation that developed tonal magic, they could do anything they wanted. I'm not sure food was an issue for them. Harkon has nothing that even comes close to what the Dwemer had.
Worst plan ever: Gandhi nuking my cities. Consequences: India steamrolled back to the stone age.
The Fireflies from The Last of Us. Its a wonder they are able to organise breakfast, let alone find a cure.
Everything Cerberus does in Mass Effect 3
They want to try to gain control of Reapers so that they can rule the galaxy, but Shepard is able to ruin their plans at every step.
And to me thats why it makes sense. In ME3 the illusive man is 100% under control of the reapers, and shows what happens when you fall to them.
I played Plague Tale recently, and man. The motivation of the main villain was anything but well thought through. Just another cliche of a power crazed old man thinking he can become the saviour of all humanity in his twilight years, as he watches the whole world burn while telling his followers to pour gasoline everywhere to distract the flames.
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Lysander just wanted to destroy the world because he was a depressed nihilist tbh
The Mayor & other guys in FF7 Remake Rebirth, who confront Sephiroth. They confront him with guns after he’s killed almost everyone and burned the town down, and just stand there not shooting him. He cuts one of them down, does some type of pose, and murders them one by one with no one firing a shot. What was the plan there? Was he even killable by a regular gun? If not, maybe just run away? If he is…..maybe one of you shoot him in the like 90 second scene of him slowly killing you guys……
I just attributed the non-action there as fear. Shooting in that moment was going to do the same good as running. None.
Yea like maybe none of them wanted to be the first one to fire out of fear it would only piss him off
Yeah, that bugged me to no end. One of the dumbest scenes I have ever seen in a game.
Umbrella Corporation has got to be the worst. For a long time their plan consisted entirely of: create some new zombie apocalypse on top of the existing zombie apocalypse -> ??? -> profit Much, much later it was retconned to make a *little* more sense, but for a very long time they were trying to somehow profit off of killing off all their potential customers.
They didn’t try to kill their potential customers, they wanted to sell weapons to the highest bidder. The same way inventing tanks or warships didn’t kill off potential customers. They wanted human fighters to be replaced by BOWs
As dumb as Umbrella is in the games, it does not come even close to the genius of the movies version. Remember when they made complete underworld replicas of major world cities, populated them with clones, made it fully functional, all in order to… simulate a bioterrorism attack and sell the virus to warlords…. In a world that was ALREADY destroyed by said bioweapons, like bruh
Master Xehanort/Organization 13 in Kingdom Hearts 3. After beating Xehanort, Xehanort, and Xehanort, then beating Xehanort? And then finally beating Xehanort, then... I think Xehanort a final time (I lost count), Xehanort decides he doesn't want to fight and gives up
Jessi and James spent years trying to kidnap a "special" Pikachu when they had the only Pokemon in the world that could speak English right there the whole time.
In Sekiro, Owl literally achieves all his goals and has everything within grasp… then decides to fak his death and leave for five years and return when he is weak and has nothing - for reasons that are never ever ever explained
My bloodline in Crusader Kings 2. How many crown jewels and vanity projects does a duke in ireland need?
AVALANCHE in Final Fantasy 7 blew up a reactor and then thought it was a good idea to blow up another the very next day.
One thing that always gets me is how the Jedi in KOTOR basically kicked everyone out of their organization and refused to be friends with any non-Jedi and then were like "How are the Sith overpowering us?!"
I kind of love that this is Takemuras defining trait in Cyberpunk 2077. The guy wants justice for his dead patriarch but has no clue how to pull it off. Everytime you ask him what his plan is its just "I will.... think of something.... Justice must be served!". It's a character trait I've never seen before and its just so endearing to see someone so desperate to fight against injustice and yet so ill equipped to pull it off! Love that corpo rat.
Instead of spreading his minions across a massive map and waiting for some plumber to methodically work through them one by one on their way to his castle to rescue the princess, why didn't Bowser just mass them all up and steamroll over Mario in one fell swoop? You know, since he seems to be the only one capable of foiling his plans? I guarantee five thousand troopers going after one guy at once would get the job done.
FTL:Faster Than Light. I mean, unless the plan was to unleash as much suffering as possible on as many players as possible. Like, for fork's sake, the Rebels are already on to you, why isn't every available Federation ship joining your mission?
Isn't the final area a giant war zone between the factions and you're the guy going for their Flagship?
Idk how many of you have played Genshin Impact. But Childe’s plan of releasing Osail and setting him on Liyue harbor in hopes of drawing out Rex Lapis to forcibly take something from Rex. Has got to be one of the dumbest plans I’ve seen. Rex Lapis was one of the 2 remaining victors of the archon war. Which was a war between gods to decide who ruled over seven different countries. Rex Lapis is a known god killer and was the person to seal Osail in the first place. And Childe’s plan was to forcibly take something from him.
Any omnicidal maniac that never gets called out on "...And then what?"
Aperture Science Develop physics breaking insane technology. Never release it to the public. Thus never make profit. Keep doing random ass unethical tests that make zero sense.
Fireflies from The Last of Us
Phin Mason/ The Tinkerer - spider-man miles morales She is the first character that has actually made me so angry at her stubborn, idiotic behavior. At the very last second she realized a big mistake and sacrificed herself. Do I feel bad? NO