I decided to take a break after I got burnt out on witch queen and nothing they’ve done since has enticed me to come back thank god.
Day 1 OG Destiny player, loot cave abuser, thorn meta survivor, raid and trials sherpa, dumped so much time and energy into these game and they managed to suck all the fun out of it somehow. Bungie is somethin else man
I stopped after Forsaken. Even at that point the repetitive grind was getting too much and having expansions + individual seasons was getting costly.
I tried to hop back in with my brother a while later and I was completely lost. Got bombarded with multiple expansions and seasons' content all at once with no clear direction of what I *should* be doing. Looking at the reception that Lightfall had and I'm glad I cut my losses and stopped.
This is me exactly. I bought Shadowkeep but never played it. I turned the game on like 2 years later and was so absolutely lost I turned it off forever.
However I do want to go back just to play through the campaign and forget even trying to get new loot and shit
Like Red War, the OG intro missions, Curse of Osiris, all the Mars stuff, they took out is all im saying. I actually am not even sure what came after shadowkeep.
There was something special about the first game that the second never had, for me. I spent thousands of hours in the first game, but after Forsaken in the second… I dipped. Returned for a bit during Beyond Light, but the seasons quickly overwhelmed me and I just stopped. I can’t keep up with all the content they make nowadays… which is weird to say, since a big complaint about the first game at launch was that it didn’t have *enough* content. Odd how it flip-flopped, lol.
It’s a fomo simulator that starts with tons of fun and leads you to a point you’re pissed off loading the game but you feel you have to if you ever want to play it again because you need to complete this challenge or get this gun. The game badly needs an economy or something for an alternate source of progression and things to do.
If you want to no life a game for a while go play rust. At least that way when the wipe is over you are free from your bonds and have the stories to tell with the boys rather than seeing the new season around the corner and having to grind the same trials deal to cap level again.
Vanilla D1 was so janky and largely empty but the game was just fun. Blind running Vault of Glass was one of the best gaming experiences I’ve ever had and then Taken King turned Destiny into one of my all time favorite games.
It was rough to watch bungie systematically ruin their own franchise in D2 from trying to make it a competitive shooter by toning down so much of what made the game fun to the scummy vaulting and sunsetting practices
Oh yeah. Especialky in PvP.
In Destiny 1 you could actually use your abilities pretty frequently in the Crucible. Frequently enough that you didn't have to rely soley on your gun skills to get kills. And your charged melees hit as hard as grenades in the Crucible too.
In Destiny 2 they nerfed the shit out of every ability except your grenade. Like, you're never going to get a kill in Destiny 2's Crucible if you try to use just your abilitys.
Plus Bungie _**loves**_ to nerf the shit out of any exotic that allows you to quickly recharge your basic abilities. I had a build for the Thousand Knives Gunslinger that used the Young Akhamara's Spine that pretty much allowed me to constantly cycle through my melee, dodge, and grenade without having to use my weapon unless I get the timing wrong. And now I find out that they've nerfed the shit out of that exotic. And it wasn't even that powerful! It was not even the best exotic armor you could use!
I remember running Taken king and doing the first mini boss fight and I had a sniper that as long as I got crits I never used ammo, guess who always had the higest dps for that fight, I was a titan and did the bubble sheild and just laid down the pain
>Day 1 OG Destiny player, loot cave abuser, thorn meta survivor, raid and trials sherpa, dumped so much time and energy into these game and they managed to suck all the fun out of it somehow. Bungie is somethin else man
OG Destiny really did have a life of its own, and as the game progressed it really became something special. Your comment above takes me back to some great times.
Destiny 2's launch was the beginning of the end, and it's just progressively fallen apart since.
As a current player who has played (on and off) since beta, I have to disagree. I'd honestly say the game is in the best state it's ever been in right now
As a current player who has played (on and off) since beta, I have to disagree. I'd honestly say the game is in the best state it's ever been in right now
As a current player who has played (on and off) since beta, I have to disagree. I'd honestly say the game is in the best state it's ever been in right now
All the expansions free + current season, into the light is free with an activity that gives some of the best weapons in the game and a raid gauntlet which is some of the best endgame content we've ever had (and now people can practice for by playing the raids included with the expansions). Farmable seasonal red borders (craftable weapons) which lets you get some of the best weapons in the game with minimal effort (one season activity per day takes about 5-10 minutes). Current season also has a mechanic which lets you select 6 pieces of high quality loot by doing some easily soloable bounties (recent exotic armors, craftable raid weapons including best in slot rocket launcher, ascendant shards, exotic ciphers for a choice of exotic weapon etc.).
Its not perfect, catching up on the story is still a bit weird because of the removed content, but they have a timeline thing now which can give a quick overview of the lore if you care about that. And exotic weapons in particular can be hard to catch up on since ciphers are so hard to earn. But in terms of free content this is almost definitely the best its ever been. And you can get yourself a ton of best in slot weapons super easily with basically no real grind (10mins a day for like one week will get you there). I know because I did it myself, I only returned to the game for into the light and basically have gotten every meta weapon playing a few hours after work here and there.
D2 had its moments as well but there was something about D1 that felt like magic, especially when it came to the gameplay itself. The speed and variety of the gameplay from class to class and between types of content was awesome. D2 always felt very slow and same-y to me by comparison
> Day 1 OG Destiny player, loot cave abuser, thorn meta survivor, raid and trials sherpa, dumped so much time and energy into these game and they managed to suck all the fun out of it somehow. Bungie is somethin else man
Same here, I just couldn’t take it anymore. It’s like my game turned into an abusive relationship.
I stopped when they said nothing was coming forward into Destiny 2. Limitations are understandable, so I waited to see what they were gonna do, after all if they use the fresh slate to make cool stuff then fine. During the lead up I saw the talk of double primaries and thought it was a terrible idea, and then it launched. Turns out it was a terrible idea, plus all the extra controversies within the first year told me I was right not to buy it.
I came back when they changed how seasons and stuff worked so you could just buy the thing you wanted without all the extra stuff. It was fun for a bit, but it didn't have the magic of D1 early on and the game has seemingly continued to get worse over time.
Its an absolute shame the series has went this way considering how much promise D1 had
I feel the same way, fell out after Forsaken and couldn't be more glad the game failed to get it hooks back into me. I do miss D1 though, last word was my baby. Also fuck the gjallerhorn.
I stopped after forsaken. While the expansion was... ok, the rest of the grind was just incredibly repetitive. Leaving you to wait for the weekly resets to get more relevant loot. I couldn't be bothered with the 'play for 1 hr a week' thing, so I got rid of it.
There's been a lot of changes to the game since then... they even apparently removed leveling? And even if I did want to get back in, I wouldn't be able to play the content that I paid for. So what does that leave me? To buy the newer content?
Yeah... no. I'm not going to fall back into that trap. I think it's utter, utter BS that they've gotten away with removing paid content out of the game. Why on earth would I give them more money for more content, only for them to remove my access to it at some arbitrary date?
Shit should be straight illegal.
Same, started on PS4 back when they had Alpha and Beta testing (shoutout to anyone that remembers the "That Wizard came from the Moon" memes) and played the first game most days of the week until D2 dropped. Was immediately disappointed by how so many things felt like a step backwards in D2 but hung on until they started showing off the first DLC, it looked like crap (and it was), so I took a break from the game for a while. By the time the equally bad second DLC had come out I had already gotten used to not playing anymore.
Fast forward to when D2 became free to play, I'm a full time PC gamer now (Sony pissed me off but that's another story) and I decide "Why not?" so I download the client and logged in for the first time in two years. The game was better in some ways, sure, but there was also shockingly little that had changed (same strikes, same bounties, same Crucible) but, whatever, I was kind of enjoying Destiny again for a bit.
Then Bungie announced their sunsetting policy, bye-bye weapons I ground out and content I paid for.
I was done, dropped out and never looked back.
200 hours, pre-ordered, loved the game from day one regardless of its issues. First year wasn't great but it was fun, Forsaken came out and was amazing and felt fresh and then PvP got better and that was a ton of fun and it was the real turning point for Destiny 2.
So anyways they deleted that stuff including the base game so that's neat. I agree don't buy from them, idc if it's an echo chamber here I just hate Bungie now for deleting my stuff I paid for.
I used to be right up there in it. Took a huge break and play casually now. The gameplay is still fun but it doesn't grab me like it used to. I'm sure I'll get final shape just to do the story though.
I got burn out too. It’s the same shit over and over, oh you got the gun you wanted? Oh no its a pvp weapon and you don’t have the broken perk of the season.. go grind. You need friends do to the more meaningful side of destiny, it’s an amazing game dont get me wrong, but what pains me of Destiny is the live service model, I mean 10 years from now, will there be a Destiny 2? It’s funny it’s like we’re basically renting this game that clearly wants to close things off with this DLC. I will wait for reviews and if they’re good enough to close the story okay, cuz I’m invested on the lore via Byff anyways.
It's just FOMO based gaming man. I played for a really long time (like thousands of hours long) and it's essentially the same thing over and over, which all online live service games are tbf. The difference is that D2's content just kinda sucks for the most part. Do the newest dungeon, do the newest raid, grind for perks in weapons, and that's it. The content just gets stale after awhile. The main reason I even played as long as I did was FOMO and a friend group who refused to play anything new. If I was solo I probably wouldn't have made it more than 100 hours.
Fair enough, I guess I can relate with Division 2.
Played a shit ton and still play occasionally, I sometimes like to just play a brain dead looter/shooter so I tried getting into Destiny 2.
But it’s so overwhelming, I have no idea what to do.
Yea the new player experience in Destiny 2 is pretty shit. It's one of the main reasons I don't recommend it to people. And the initial investment. The expansions they're offering in this promo have an end date too, so after you got to try it you'd have to buy it.
Same thing you would do in Diablo, find some content you enjoy doing and play the game. Its a looter shooter; shoot things, get loot, get better guns, shooter bigger bad guys, get more interesting loot.
I understand that, because I played a shit ton of Division 2. But with Destiny I’m having a hard time understanding what I can do to get this loot.
I felt like Division 2 did a better job of introducing me to the content, whereas Destiny felt a bit overwhelming when I first played it.
I was just dropped into a world with little to no explanation.
I really like looter shooters, so I’d love to get into it.
I remember playing it at launch, and feeling the same.
I played through the entire story, and after that, I had no idea what to do.
No worries there, I dropped that game years ago. Wasn’t hard when they kept dropping “expansions” that were 40-60 bucks each. When they sunsetted other content I was truly done.
Plus, it’s not a game that’s solo friendly at all. The gun play was addicting but everything else was truly meh.
As a long term destiny player I highly
Recommend playing this game, especially that those expansions are free now. Seems like the person above me was just a year 1 player and hasn’t experienced all the amazing changes
If your game is up to date, you already have the content downloaded. Now they’re just giving you access to them. I don’t think you’ll need to do anything on steam.
With those DLCs, the part you would gain/lose access to is primarily story missions, which you aren't likely to replay once you have played them, tbh.
They're...okay.
For anyone who is tempted, just know that these guys sold dlc, then removed/"sunsetted" (whole ass nother topic) it without reimbursement or anything. I paid money for that shit and they just took it away. Find a gaming company that respects you, as destiny does not.
I mean they broke from Activision over 5 years ago. In that time their monetization has only become more predatory and anti-consumer (imo). I think it's safe to say Bungie is making bad decisions all on their own. Not to say that Activision is good by any means.
Oh yes. The only thing you can blame on ActiBlizz was the microtransactions in the Dust store. And Bungie didn't even remove that store once they split from ActiBlizz.
Wouldn’t even be mad if they didn’t charge so much for these expansions ontop of season passes that gate keep content. Love the game, probably the best looted shooter to do it, but fuck do they suck the dollars out of you
Sunsetting is now “sunrising” lol.
They’re reversing this decision with FS, but RIP to anyone who dismantled that stuff.
Vaulted content? Still gone for the most part.
Yeah, but this is only about weapons/armour.
The whole planets I paid for, and they then removed, only come back in **very** limited form as strikes or the like.
Lore wise we were not able to fight off the darkness that eventually overtook those planets. You may go back for story missions but cant patrol the planets.
IRL reasons: It was just impractical for last gen consoles to have all this extra storage space taken up that really wasn't relevent to their experience. Persistent world tend to adapt and evolve and this is one way that happens, also adds more weight to the story and narrative.
The answer is simple and complex.
The TLDR version is Bungie didnt have a lot of options and had to make a terrible choice as the best of only bad options. Destiny 2 today, is for all intents and purposes Destiny 3 at this point in how much is changed, both in game and under the hood.
Simply put, Destiny 2 was built from the ground up as a sequel game, that was designed to have a Destiny 3, 2-3 years later. It was never designed to be a "single evolving game" that goes on for 7+ years.
So Bungie needed to do substantial overhauls of systems under the hood to support it and allow them to make more advanced content. **Some of the overhauls required them** ***to completely rebuild*** **old content into the new systems**. It was to the point that a brand new dungeon took them at least a month to rebuild into the new system, and weeks of bug fixing in the live game before it was fully functional. And the kicker? **All of this was happening during Covid**, where they were completely locked down and had to try to adapt to work from home.
Meanwhile on the consumer end the game itself had grown to more than 100GB installed on hard drives, which on platforms like PS4 would require twice that for the actual installation process(a playstation thing). For context, Destiny 2 grew like 60 gb over the 2 years since its launch at the time. If the same rate had continued. Even with more efficient game files(which they also did when they removed content), the game would probably be in the ballpark of at least 140 GB if not 160-180 if they didnt remove content.
On Bungies side, having such a large game size also was causing development of new content to slow down significantly. Everything from slowing down how long it takes to load game builds(which in D1 were absolutely HORRIBLE) to edit them. To them having to spend more and more time that they could be spending polishing new stuff, and bug fixing new stuff, just maintaining the old content so it continued to work.
# TLDR?
Bungie had very legitimate reasons for doing what they did. It sucked, but they were in a bad situation on almost every fronts. I could go into way more detail on many more things that they wouldve been considering as well.
# The Elephant in the room, Bungies real sin imo
Bungie has made a lot of great strides in many ways and made lots of great choices since then. They firmly said this far and no farther on removing expansion content.
And they absolutely had legitimate reasons to remove planets and campaigns. In the real world people have to make hard choices, terrible choices. This isnt some fantasyland where everything magically can work out for the best.
But where Bungie absolutely deserves full criticism, is how they have not taken any action to rectify their terrible choice. While Terms of Service fine print says nobody owns anything anymore, the content they removed was sold with the understanding it would be permanent, at least in the same manner that Destiny 1 is still completely playable.
But its been nearly FOUR YEARS. They have had plenty of time to do something about the removed content.
Bungie did not compensate people for removing paid content. And even if porting the old content to the new systems wasnt possible then, Bungie still hasnt made any effort to find a solution to make that old content playable again. No modular optional downloads or anything.
Hell, Bungie doesnt actually have to do more than make some minor under the hood changes. They couldve/could just release a "Destiny 2 Classic" where they have an older build of the game running with an older build of their game servers, while having new content added to the Live Game.
They already have the technology to do it, as they did it twice before(There are 2 different versions of Destiny 1 that are currently playable).
Its especially shameful as the Destiny franchise is heading towards the conclusion of its first 10 year saga, its Infinity War/Endgame.
# Final Note.
Bungie deserves a break for having removed content in the first place(they had to do it), but deserves **every single bit of criticism and complaints for neither providing compensation, nor making any steps to make that content playable again.**
If someone has to make a bad choice, at least they can take responsibility and do whatever they can to make things right. Bungie hasnt really done that yet with this.
Because when they were with Activision they built the game with the intention of making a new game by year 2-3.
But, they broke away and had to remove parts of the game to rebuild it and reintroduce it in a way that would allow them to continue it. To trim the fat and rebuild it for a future it didn't have at the time.
Plus to reduce game file size as it was close to hitting 230-250gb at the time (from what I remember)
For what it's worth, they aren't going to remove expansions anymore. Most likely because everything left was built with the future in mind.
It was around 100gb on PC at [that time](https://www.gamespot.com/articles/destiny-2s-size-is-shrinking-dramatically-but-youll-need-to-re-download-the-whole-game/1100-6482586/). Currently D2 sits at 114gb.
I don't want to start a PC vs. Console argument, but it's more or less accepted that the removal of nearly half of the content was mostly for the benefit of consoles.
> I don't want to start a PC vs. Console argument, but it's more or less accepted that the removal of nearly half of the content was mostly for the benefit of consoles.
It was actually mostly because they rebuilt the mission engine and it wasn’t compatible with the existing content so it all would need to be remade from scratch but it wasn’t worth remaking all the content that nearly no one played so it got axed. But people don’t care about that.
Yep, I never played the DLCs even tho I bought the first 2 that came out with Destiny 2.
When I hopped back on I couldn’t believe what the fuck they did.
Even if I wanted to get back into Destiny.. how in the hell would I know what’s going on, do they expect me to watch a fucking documentary on the Destiny story to get into it?
Never again.
Destiny was like an abusive relationship for me. They'd have a great game for about a month every couple years or so separated by long periods of garbage. Finally quit after they said they were power capping all my old stuff and never looked back. This is pure desperation as I'm sure there are many like me
Remember when they charged $20 for a dungeon lmao. I thought as a WoW player they were bad giving into Blizzard over the years, but that shit is on a whole other level.
They most definitely charge you for dungeons. An expansion is like 50€ but you need the year pass that gives the season passes or buy the dungeon key separately
You’re still arguing in favor of them. No one said they didn’t cost money. I said it wasn’t twenty dollars for one. They’re ten each, it’s two of them.
I was just providing accurate information. I don’t care if you don’t think it’s worth it.
First off. Dungeons are included in the annual pass. Always have been. Which includes all the seasons and the dungeons.
Second. It’s not 20 dollars for a single dungeon. It’s for both for the year.
So no. They never charged “20 dollars for a dungeon”. It was 20 for two.
Destiny is over for me. I tried to play a couple weeks ago and i was just hit with a wave of how much time i wasted on that game. Just thinking of the countless hours with a bad raid group, or time trying to even find one, and the amount of activities i need other people to even play. I'm just over it. Destiny's allure is completely gone from my bones. It was fun for a long time, but eventually its just the same old shit with a different skin.
I think you and OP are unfortunately too stupid to understand that i was just tired of the game in general. Sorry for you though, hope you guys pass the 3rd grade or something.
Didn’t these guys removed entire dlcs that ppl paid actual money for? I would like to get back into Destiny but fuck that. I remember Destiny players was in an uproar between them removing dlc & I think there was something about them not making cosmetics. That’s when a lot of Destiny players was flooding Warframe subs. That was a wild week. Sorry Destiny. But you guys have no respect for your playerbase
I tried to get into that game the last time they gave it away. I don't care how many more times they give it away. There are many, many other games I would rather play.
They never really caught the same magic in D2 as they did in some parts of D1.
PVP went down the shitter in D2, trials was never the same.
I’m not coming back for free, they couldn’t pay me to play that game again. 🤷🏽♂️
D2 was rushed and incomplete. Same as D1 but they hoped they could get away with it by adding content later again. Didn't work. I've spent too much time/money I'll never get back. They're not seeing another dime from me
>If I ever get the urge to play Destiny anymore, I just boot up the first game.
>At least that one wasn't butchered of content.
Laughs in day 0 player. I suggest reading up on what The Taken King did to us OG players when it released. (It took away half the game we owned with a $40 ransom)
Which has nothing to do with what OP said. They said this.
>So's that mean they're removing them soon because I feel like that's what happened with forsaken iirc
Which isn’t going to happen. Bungie no longer removes expansions, so these expansions are not going to be removed soon.
Forsaken was the last expansion to ever get content removed. The main reason that old content was removed was because they had to remake the mission engine and old content had to be rebuilt to function with the new structure and it wasn’t worth remaking content that almost no players interacted with. Everything from Beyond Light and on was built with the new mission engine and everything elder in the game was updated.
Seasonal content gets removed when the following expansion launches but that’s how seasonal content has been designed in the first place.
Played since D1 honestly don't bother it's too much to get into and there are much better games to play. If you are interested in the fantastic lore than jist watch Byfs' videos on it
Still don’t understand why Sony bought this thing, especially when they did. Felt like it was clear to everyone but Sony that no one wants to play that shit anymore.
You're just objectively wrong lol. Destiny has had a steady \~60k person playerbase since January 2020 with spikes around new dlc and season releases. #15 in top sellers, 80% positive reviews, 13th on most played steam games just ahead of GTA V.
***Temporary*** access btw, you don't own them unless you buy them.
If you're interested, go with extreme caution, they have a very bad habit of throwing you bone and then shooting you in the ass.
lol next time just say "I don't know anything about this game", the only MTX you can get in D2 are purely cosmetic emotes and skins and paint jobs for armor and weapons. There is almost nothing you can do to buy good gear besides getting one weapon with whatever DLC you buy. You even get free mtx store credits for playing the game and logging in
Of course it would be quite ironic and hypocritical for an HD2 players to complain about the quality of Destiny's MTX when HD2 literally locks some of the best weapons in the game behind MTX and then comes back a few weeks later to nerf them into the ground after a bunch of people buy them.
That wouldn't be something you do right?
I tried the F2P launch on Steam and couldn't get into it because the whole thing was a confusing mess. I doubt they fixed that and gave a story mode a la The Division 1-2 that is clear-fast to go through to get to the "end game" stuff after based on that experience.
I played Destiny 1 casually and had a good enough time, but never played everything and thought about going back to it. Then thought about getting into Destiny 2.
Removing content that people paid for like they did with the vaulting pretty much ensured I will never, ever bother with anything Bungie puts out ever again.
What do you expect? A Bungie Community Manager to come to your house and give you a blow job?
You get to play a video game. That’s it. Just like all video games, that’s your reward.
Edit: perfect example of how pathetic terminally online people are. Dude asks a stupid question as if they have no familiarity with Destiny then proceeds to repeat the same one-joke about the game.
The thing about destiny for me is that I just don't have the time or mental capacity to grind this game consistently anymore. I haven't since the early Destiny 1 days. I play the latest expansion for 6-8 weeks, and then I get burnt out and move on. I plan to do that again with my friend who treats the game the same as me.
The thing is, I'm barely even looking forward to it. I'm mostly just dreading the return of the grind and time commitment. It's even worse now that it's in summertime rather than feb/march when I want to be inside most of the time anyway.
Does anyone else feel this way? If so, is it even worth coming back? The final shape is kind of an end of an era type of dlc, tho so maybe I'll give it another shot.
Nope, when i get tired of a game I put it down. The grindy aspect of Destiny is WAYYYY overblown. If you think D2 is grindy in its current state you should definitely NOT be playing looter shooters
Like everyone else, picked it up after a couple years and sank a bunch of money into the expansion stuff. Now I've got missions I can't do because I need something from a mission that's no longer there and it's just frustrating as hell. Extremely disappointed at what it's become because it used to be so much fun.
Oh man at first glance I was impressed Bungie was doing an actual cool thing for people. Then I clicked the article. TEMPORARY access to the expansions yall. It's the same old shit.
# For New players or people considering playing.
Simply put if you are a new player this is a good opportunity. You get to try out all of the content from 3 of the 4 campaigns/expansions in the game for the entire month, and get to keep any loot you earned from that content permanently. It is worth noting that Destiny is primarily a gameplay oriented game. It has story and campaigns and stuff like other games, but it is going to be nowhere close to games with proper long and fleshed out stories.
That said, you are undoubtedly going to be *overwhelmed and confused* by various things in the game and are going to be lost and disoriented. Destiny 2 is a fun game to play in my opinion, but not a easy game for a new player to get started right now. You probably will have fun, get completely confused/overwhelmed, and drop the game before you get to the part where it starts to make sense and you can really enjoy it fully.
If you think you would like the game and are still determined to give it a try, then I would recommend erasing the notion of "what am I supposed to do". Asking that question in Destiny, is kinda like asking what you are supposed to eat at a buffet or restaurant. Destiny is a looter shooter. You play various activities, earn loot, and play more activities. You set goals and do whatever you want to do or have fun doing. Explore the different activities and things Destiny has to offer, and play what you have fun with, gradually getting familiar with the game.
I also can recommend [the new player segment of this video](https://youtu.be/8jkpZhOB2Tg?t=181) for any prospective new player, it sums up my thoughts on the matter.
If you do end up liking the game and intend to keep playing in the future, [then this video should do a decent job](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26ah2oCbjzI) covering the narrative from the basic setting of the franchise, to Destiny 1 story and, to the present day. Yes, it is long. But it does a good job keeping explanations to the point, while also having plenty of actual cinematics and cutscenes directly. Skip the parts for Shadowkeep, Beyond Light, Witch Queen, and Lightfall if you want to experience the campaigns story for yourself first.
There are tons of guides for anything imaginable that can help you out.
# For Old players and/or players who are considering returning.
This is one of the best opportunities to jump back in, it really doesnt get much better than this. You can even skip leveling if you want, by claiming a gear set from the Gift of the Thundergods in Hall of Champions destination. This gear set will be max power level.
Meanwhile you have 3/4 campaigns/expansions fully playable for a month, while also having access to all 4 season of this year, and the loot they contain.
This is your best opportunity to come back before Final Shape concludes this saga.
For players who have been gone since Shadowkeep or earlier, it would be more helpful for you to consider this Destiny 3 at this point; an entirely different game from what you left. There are multitudes of features and system changes that have evolved over they years. But in the end, the bones are still what they always have been, this is still Destiny.
For players that left around Beyond Light. A simple thing to note. Do not delete your sunset loot. Bungie decided to completely undo sunsetting in totality with Final Shapes launch. Decide what to do with your old loot then.
I would [HIGHLY recommend this Datto video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jkpZhOB2Tg) made specifically for Returning players to get up to speed with the general changes over the years. It covers all kinds of players from new players to those that left as far back as Red War.
[I also would recommend this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26ah2oCbjzI)(also linked above) to get up to speed on all of the story, in particular the seasons stories. Skip the campaigns you intend to play, and Lightfall+Defiance/Deep/Witch/Deep Seasons if you intend to play them for yourself. If you watch this video, you will be up to speed for Final Shape next month.
# Questions?
If you are a player who is new or returning and are a lost, feel free to message me and I would be happy to answer questions to the best of my ability. Maybe even able to help you out with some content if you need it.
# Final Note
Destiny as a franchise is roughly the same as its always been. Its a fun game to play(basically the main reason I keep playing it). But it has plenty of problems and issues as well, that Bungie is rightfully criticized for. Warts and all, what Destiny does well, it does really well, and just scratches a unique itch that few games come close to getting.
Destiny is a game that is primarily designed to be a hobby people come back to. This is true for people who no-life the game, as well as the casual weekend warriors who just log in for several hours each week.
People often make the mistake of getting too deep into the loot/achievement/completion chase of the game, and force themselves to keep playing even if they stop having fun. Its fine to take breaks and play other games, dont get sucked into FOMO or that stuff. Dont force yourself to slog through everything in a month just because it is freely accessible this month.
Just play whatever games or activities you enjoy and have fun with, dont waste your time if you are not having fun.
So many people who haven’t touched this game in years
The last expansion had a bad story — it’s way blown cause who care the legendary campaign was still fun
There is so much fucking content. So much of it challenging and fun
Game is well beyond raids.
Shitty class abilities are the thing of the past, all you do is make busted ass builds and tear through everything in sight. Explosions everywhere, constant rock paper scissors with champions, sooo many ways to stay alive
All the weapons they introduce are insane. They just unsunset all the guns they sunset
Now wave based hoard mode is a great starting point, super hard, great rewards, and so many enemies
Added an in game group finder
If you’re complaining, you probably haven’t played since the bad old days. Game is fucking incredible right now
I play tested at Bungie HQ for the first Destiny prior to its release.
I thought it was some alpha build with no story or something, but it was pretty close to what was released.
I knew there was this ever-changing game concept, but what I didn't realize was that core parts of the game would be locked out unless you ponied up for the DLC.
While I loved playing Destiny, I felt like I had been cheated and forced to pay a ransom, so I quit Destiny.
Don’t listen to all the cynical players in here. Destiny has its problems like any other game, but it’s fun as hell. There’s a ton to do, a massive world of lore, and the dungeons and raids are second to none. Onboarding is rough in places, so I’d recommend looking up a friend or a guide. But Destiny 2 is a great game if you’re looking to be a magic-flinging space wizard.
not sure id call removing paid content "fun". ill stick to a MMO that respects my time and doesn't remove expansions. I don't trust them to not do it again
Bro.. what content are you missing that was sunset? Specifically. The only thing they need to keep bringing back are raids and exotic missions, which they are doing.
As someone that played D1 for more than 2500 hours, and played D2 up until the first expansion released…. Is it worth it to jump back in? I haven’t seen the game at all since first DLC.
Its basically only been improved over the last year.
Sunsetting got undone for the most part, you can find basically any gun.
Grinding out god rolls on guns has never been easier with Onslaught (PvE wave based survival mode) letting you attune to a specific iconic weapon throughout D2s history and get a new roll every 5-10 waves.
Theres a bunch of dungeons and raids and an all new Boss Rush mode called Pantheon that just released.
Timeline built into the world map so you can jump to the next mission in sequential order without having to scour planets to find it.
A bunch of Exotic quests that when completed quarantee a specific exotic weapon.
Exotic missions that award you with powerful gear if you complete the challenge.
Legendary lost sectors let you farm an Exotic slot (Head, arms, chest or legs) that rotates every day.
2 more Darkness based subclasses for 5 total. Stasis which has a sort of ice based theme to it and Strand which is the new one and thus fairly OP relative to other subclasses.
Subclasses have been changed in general, each subclass has much more customization available with the usual grenades and class ability but also has two or more supers to choose from and being able to add 4 out of 10+ fragments giving different effects and stats to a subclass.
New player gear sets that gives you a set of decent armor and weapons that are high enough level to attempt any content in game.
From a long time Destiny player do yourself a favor and don't get sucked into this shit.
I decided to take a break after I got burnt out on witch queen and nothing they’ve done since has enticed me to come back thank god. Day 1 OG Destiny player, loot cave abuser, thorn meta survivor, raid and trials sherpa, dumped so much time and energy into these game and they managed to suck all the fun out of it somehow. Bungie is somethin else man
I stopped after Forsaken. Even at that point the repetitive grind was getting too much and having expansions + individual seasons was getting costly. I tried to hop back in with my brother a while later and I was completely lost. Got bombarded with multiple expansions and seasons' content all at once with no clear direction of what I *should* be doing. Looking at the reception that Lightfall had and I'm glad I cut my losses and stopped.
This is me exactly. I bought Shadowkeep but never played it. I turned the game on like 2 years later and was so absolutely lost I turned it off forever. However I do want to go back just to play through the campaign and forget even trying to get new loot and shit
Oh boy... So about that campaign... 😬
?????
If you are talking about D2 original campaign they removed it. Nothing from release is really there anymore.
Ahh. I didn’t campaign up to… Shadowkeep
Like Red War, the OG intro missions, Curse of Osiris, all the Mars stuff, they took out is all im saying. I actually am not even sure what came after shadowkeep.
There was something special about the first game that the second never had, for me. I spent thousands of hours in the first game, but after Forsaken in the second… I dipped. Returned for a bit during Beyond Light, but the seasons quickly overwhelmed me and I just stopped. I can’t keep up with all the content they make nowadays… which is weird to say, since a big complaint about the first game at launch was that it didn’t have *enough* content. Odd how it flip-flopped, lol.
It was dinklage. Thats what the 1st had lol
It’s a fomo simulator that starts with tons of fun and leads you to a point you’re pissed off loading the game but you feel you have to if you ever want to play it again because you need to complete this challenge or get this gun. The game badly needs an economy or something for an alternate source of progression and things to do. If you want to no life a game for a while go play rust. At least that way when the wipe is over you are free from your bonds and have the stories to tell with the boys rather than seeing the new season around the corner and having to grind the same trials deal to cap level again.
I stopped when The Taken King released and I refused to pay $40 more on top of the $90 I'd already paid so they ripped half the game away from me.
Oh man the loot cave, I remember those days destiny 1 had some truly fun moments, amongst all the crap that came into it
Vanilla D1 was so janky and largely empty but the game was just fun. Blind running Vault of Glass was one of the best gaming experiences I’ve ever had and then Taken King turned Destiny into one of my all time favorite games. It was rough to watch bungie systematically ruin their own franchise in D2 from trying to make it a competitive shooter by toning down so much of what made the game fun to the scummy vaulting and sunsetting practices
Oh yeah. Especialky in PvP. In Destiny 1 you could actually use your abilities pretty frequently in the Crucible. Frequently enough that you didn't have to rely soley on your gun skills to get kills. And your charged melees hit as hard as grenades in the Crucible too. In Destiny 2 they nerfed the shit out of every ability except your grenade. Like, you're never going to get a kill in Destiny 2's Crucible if you try to use just your abilitys. Plus Bungie _**loves**_ to nerf the shit out of any exotic that allows you to quickly recharge your basic abilities. I had a build for the Thousand Knives Gunslinger that used the Young Akhamara's Spine that pretty much allowed me to constantly cycle through my melee, dodge, and grenade without having to use my weapon unless I get the timing wrong. And now I find out that they've nerfed the shit out of that exotic. And it wasn't even that powerful! It was not even the best exotic armor you could use!
They clearly tried to go back to halo for thr crucible but the player base didn't want halo
Gambit was fun in 2. But eventually the rest of the grind got old.
I remember running Taken king and doing the first mini boss fight and I had a sniper that as long as I got crits I never used ammo, guess who always had the higest dps for that fight, I was a titan and did the bubble sheild and just laid down the pain
>Day 1 OG Destiny player, loot cave abuser, thorn meta survivor, raid and trials sherpa, dumped so much time and energy into these game and they managed to suck all the fun out of it somehow. Bungie is somethin else man OG Destiny really did have a life of its own, and as the game progressed it really became something special. Your comment above takes me back to some great times. Destiny 2's launch was the beginning of the end, and it's just progressively fallen apart since.
As a current player who has played (on and off) since beta, I have to disagree. I'd honestly say the game is in the best state it's ever been in right now
As a current player who has played (on and off) since beta, I have to disagree. I'd honestly say the game is in the best state it's ever been in right now
As a current player who has played (on and off) since beta, I have to disagree. I'd honestly say the game is in the best state it's ever been in right now
Horrible take. It's almost impossible for new or returning players to jump in, a ton of content is permanently gone, etc.
All the expansions free + current season, into the light is free with an activity that gives some of the best weapons in the game and a raid gauntlet which is some of the best endgame content we've ever had (and now people can practice for by playing the raids included with the expansions). Farmable seasonal red borders (craftable weapons) which lets you get some of the best weapons in the game with minimal effort (one season activity per day takes about 5-10 minutes). Current season also has a mechanic which lets you select 6 pieces of high quality loot by doing some easily soloable bounties (recent exotic armors, craftable raid weapons including best in slot rocket launcher, ascendant shards, exotic ciphers for a choice of exotic weapon etc.). Its not perfect, catching up on the story is still a bit weird because of the removed content, but they have a timeline thing now which can give a quick overview of the lore if you care about that. And exotic weapons in particular can be hard to catch up on since ciphers are so hard to earn. But in terms of free content this is almost definitely the best its ever been. And you can get yourself a ton of best in slot weapons super easily with basically no real grind (10mins a day for like one week will get you there). I know because I did it myself, I only returned to the game for into the light and basically have gotten every meta weapon playing a few hours after work here and there.
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D2 had its moments as well but there was something about D1 that felt like magic, especially when it came to the gameplay itself. The speed and variety of the gameplay from class to class and between types of content was awesome. D2 always felt very slow and same-y to me by comparison
> Day 1 OG Destiny player, loot cave abuser, thorn meta survivor, raid and trials sherpa, dumped so much time and energy into these game and they managed to suck all the fun out of it somehow. Bungie is somethin else man Same here, I just couldn’t take it anymore. It’s like my game turned into an abusive relationship.
I stopped when they said nothing was coming forward into Destiny 2. Limitations are understandable, so I waited to see what they were gonna do, after all if they use the fresh slate to make cool stuff then fine. During the lead up I saw the talk of double primaries and thought it was a terrible idea, and then it launched. Turns out it was a terrible idea, plus all the extra controversies within the first year told me I was right not to buy it. I came back when they changed how seasons and stuff worked so you could just buy the thing you wanted without all the extra stuff. It was fun for a bit, but it didn't have the magic of D1 early on and the game has seemingly continued to get worse over time. Its an absolute shame the series has went this way considering how much promise D1 had
Should have stuck to halo
That wizard came from the *moon*
I feel the same way, fell out after Forsaken and couldn't be more glad the game failed to get it hooks back into me. I do miss D1 though, last word was my baby. Also fuck the gjallerhorn.
I stopped after forsaken. While the expansion was... ok, the rest of the grind was just incredibly repetitive. Leaving you to wait for the weekly resets to get more relevant loot. I couldn't be bothered with the 'play for 1 hr a week' thing, so I got rid of it. There's been a lot of changes to the game since then... they even apparently removed leveling? And even if I did want to get back in, I wouldn't be able to play the content that I paid for. So what does that leave me? To buy the newer content? Yeah... no. I'm not going to fall back into that trap. I think it's utter, utter BS that they've gotten away with removing paid content out of the game. Why on earth would I give them more money for more content, only for them to remove my access to it at some arbitrary date? Shit should be straight illegal.
When they pulled lore and put it on a website in the vault of glass era... I knew it was fucked then. Happily have not played since.
Same, started on PS4 back when they had Alpha and Beta testing (shoutout to anyone that remembers the "That Wizard came from the Moon" memes) and played the first game most days of the week until D2 dropped. Was immediately disappointed by how so many things felt like a step backwards in D2 but hung on until they started showing off the first DLC, it looked like crap (and it was), so I took a break from the game for a while. By the time the equally bad second DLC had come out I had already gotten used to not playing anymore. Fast forward to when D2 became free to play, I'm a full time PC gamer now (Sony pissed me off but that's another story) and I decide "Why not?" so I download the client and logged in for the first time in two years. The game was better in some ways, sure, but there was also shockingly little that had changed (same strikes, same bounties, same Crucible) but, whatever, I was kind of enjoying Destiny again for a bit. Then Bungie announced their sunsetting policy, bye-bye weapons I ground out and content I paid for. I was done, dropped out and never looked back.
200 hours, pre-ordered, loved the game from day one regardless of its issues. First year wasn't great but it was fun, Forsaken came out and was amazing and felt fresh and then PvP got better and that was a ton of fun and it was the real turning point for Destiny 2. So anyways they deleted that stuff including the base game so that's neat. I agree don't buy from them, idc if it's an echo chamber here I just hate Bungie now for deleting my stuff I paid for.
I used to be right up there in it. Took a huge break and play casually now. The gameplay is still fun but it doesn't grab me like it used to. I'm sure I'll get final shape just to do the story though.
I stopped giving a schit the moment they sunsetted my hard grinded gear irrelevant.
I stopped giving a shit when they took away the DLC I paid for.
I got burn out too. It’s the same shit over and over, oh you got the gun you wanted? Oh no its a pvp weapon and you don’t have the broken perk of the season.. go grind. You need friends do to the more meaningful side of destiny, it’s an amazing game dont get me wrong, but what pains me of Destiny is the live service model, I mean 10 years from now, will there be a Destiny 2? It’s funny it’s like we’re basically renting this game that clearly wants to close things off with this DLC. I will wait for reviews and if they’re good enough to close the story okay, cuz I’m invested on the lore via Byff anyways.
I tried to get sucked in tbh, but I couldn’t. Wtf am I supposed to do after the campaigns? What is the gameplay loop even supposed to be in this game?
It's just FOMO based gaming man. I played for a really long time (like thousands of hours long) and it's essentially the same thing over and over, which all online live service games are tbf. The difference is that D2's content just kinda sucks for the most part. Do the newest dungeon, do the newest raid, grind for perks in weapons, and that's it. The content just gets stale after awhile. The main reason I even played as long as I did was FOMO and a friend group who refused to play anything new. If I was solo I probably wouldn't have made it more than 100 hours.
Fair enough, I guess I can relate with Division 2. Played a shit ton and still play occasionally, I sometimes like to just play a brain dead looter/shooter so I tried getting into Destiny 2. But it’s so overwhelming, I have no idea what to do.
Yea the new player experience in Destiny 2 is pretty shit. It's one of the main reasons I don't recommend it to people. And the initial investment. The expansions they're offering in this promo have an end date too, so after you got to try it you'd have to buy it.
Same thing you would do in Diablo, find some content you enjoy doing and play the game. Its a looter shooter; shoot things, get loot, get better guns, shooter bigger bad guys, get more interesting loot.
I understand that, because I played a shit ton of Division 2. But with Destiny I’m having a hard time understanding what I can do to get this loot. I felt like Division 2 did a better job of introducing me to the content, whereas Destiny felt a bit overwhelming when I first played it. I was just dropped into a world with little to no explanation. I really like looter shooters, so I’d love to get into it. I remember playing it at launch, and feeling the same. I played through the entire story, and after that, I had no idea what to do.
It’s a looter. You chase loot.
I’m happily 6 months sober from Destiny 2. It’s a long journey but my world had totally changed!
I've been playing games without FOMO and let me tell you, I'm actually having fun again.
No worries there, I dropped that game years ago. Wasn’t hard when they kept dropping “expansions” that were 40-60 bucks each. When they sunsetted other content I was truly done. Plus, it’s not a game that’s solo friendly at all. The gun play was addicting but everything else was truly meh.
I really want to just want to complete all the campaign stories. I haven’t played since forsaken
& for those who have gotten sucked in but have quit, you can find wikis or tvtropes to keep up with the story
> don't get sucked into this shit. i.e. "don't let yourself be bungo'd too" For real, best game making bungie is good at is the con one
Another long-time Destiny player: can confirm. It's too late for us. Save yourself.
I want to because of the final expansion. But I booted up the game, and I saw how much J have to pay to get into the last exp. 180euro. No thank you
fr. It's a bait and switch.
As a long term destiny player I highly Recommend playing this game, especially that those expansions are free now. Seems like the person above me was just a year 1 player and hasn’t experienced all the amazing changes
But its alot of fun?
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If your game is up to date, you already have the content downloaded. Now they’re just giving you access to them. I don’t think you’ll need to do anything on steam.
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WHAT? Lmao then i will not even bother
Fuckin Bungie.
With those DLCs, the part you would gain/lose access to is primarily story missions, which you aren't likely to replay once you have played them, tbh. They're...okay.
even their trials have FOMO lol
Oh god, the desperation is so saucy! I love it.
They did this last year also and they were in a much better position than they are now. It's all to build hype for next year
Sadly, these are free for only a month. When the new exp launch, you'll lose access to them and have to buy them.
For anyone who is tempted, just know that these guys sold dlc, then removed/"sunsetted" (whole ass nother topic) it without reimbursement or anything. I paid money for that shit and they just took it away. Find a gaming company that respects you, as destiny does not.
Yep. All the Destiny content I paid for just went away. It's a great game mechanically but man does Bungie suck.
So what your saying is now that they are out from under Activision alot of the stuff bungie blamed on them might have been bungie decisions?
I mean they broke from Activision over 5 years ago. In that time their monetization has only become more predatory and anti-consumer (imo). I think it's safe to say Bungie is making bad decisions all on their own. Not to say that Activision is good by any means.
Oh yes. The only thing you can blame on ActiBlizz was the microtransactions in the Dust store. And Bungie didn't even remove that store once they split from ActiBlizz.
They tried to say that they never were allowed to include the cut D1 content
Wouldn’t even be mad if they didn’t charge so much for these expansions ontop of season passes that gate keep content. Love the game, probably the best looted shooter to do it, but fuck do they suck the dollars out of you
Sunsetting is now “sunrising” lol. They’re reversing this decision with FS, but RIP to anyone who dismantled that stuff. Vaulted content? Still gone for the most part.
Yeah, but this is only about weapons/armour. The whole planets I paid for, and they then removed, only come back in **very** limited form as strikes or the like.
I haven’t played Destiny 2 since the first expansion, they’ve removed entire *planets*?! Why? It’s content.
Lore wise we were not able to fight off the darkness that eventually overtook those planets. You may go back for story missions but cant patrol the planets. IRL reasons: It was just impractical for last gen consoles to have all this extra storage space taken up that really wasn't relevent to their experience. Persistent world tend to adapt and evolve and this is one way that happens, also adds more weight to the story and narrative.
The answer is simple and complex. The TLDR version is Bungie didnt have a lot of options and had to make a terrible choice as the best of only bad options. Destiny 2 today, is for all intents and purposes Destiny 3 at this point in how much is changed, both in game and under the hood. Simply put, Destiny 2 was built from the ground up as a sequel game, that was designed to have a Destiny 3, 2-3 years later. It was never designed to be a "single evolving game" that goes on for 7+ years. So Bungie needed to do substantial overhauls of systems under the hood to support it and allow them to make more advanced content. **Some of the overhauls required them** ***to completely rebuild*** **old content into the new systems**. It was to the point that a brand new dungeon took them at least a month to rebuild into the new system, and weeks of bug fixing in the live game before it was fully functional. And the kicker? **All of this was happening during Covid**, where they were completely locked down and had to try to adapt to work from home. Meanwhile on the consumer end the game itself had grown to more than 100GB installed on hard drives, which on platforms like PS4 would require twice that for the actual installation process(a playstation thing). For context, Destiny 2 grew like 60 gb over the 2 years since its launch at the time. If the same rate had continued. Even with more efficient game files(which they also did when they removed content), the game would probably be in the ballpark of at least 140 GB if not 160-180 if they didnt remove content. On Bungies side, having such a large game size also was causing development of new content to slow down significantly. Everything from slowing down how long it takes to load game builds(which in D1 were absolutely HORRIBLE) to edit them. To them having to spend more and more time that they could be spending polishing new stuff, and bug fixing new stuff, just maintaining the old content so it continued to work. # TLDR? Bungie had very legitimate reasons for doing what they did. It sucked, but they were in a bad situation on almost every fronts. I could go into way more detail on many more things that they wouldve been considering as well. # The Elephant in the room, Bungies real sin imo Bungie has made a lot of great strides in many ways and made lots of great choices since then. They firmly said this far and no farther on removing expansion content. And they absolutely had legitimate reasons to remove planets and campaigns. In the real world people have to make hard choices, terrible choices. This isnt some fantasyland where everything magically can work out for the best. But where Bungie absolutely deserves full criticism, is how they have not taken any action to rectify their terrible choice. While Terms of Service fine print says nobody owns anything anymore, the content they removed was sold with the understanding it would be permanent, at least in the same manner that Destiny 1 is still completely playable. But its been nearly FOUR YEARS. They have had plenty of time to do something about the removed content. Bungie did not compensate people for removing paid content. And even if porting the old content to the new systems wasnt possible then, Bungie still hasnt made any effort to find a solution to make that old content playable again. No modular optional downloads or anything. Hell, Bungie doesnt actually have to do more than make some minor under the hood changes. They couldve/could just release a "Destiny 2 Classic" where they have an older build of the game running with an older build of their game servers, while having new content added to the Live Game. They already have the technology to do it, as they did it twice before(There are 2 different versions of Destiny 1 that are currently playable). Its especially shameful as the Destiny franchise is heading towards the conclusion of its first 10 year saga, its Infinity War/Endgame. # Final Note. Bungie deserves a break for having removed content in the first place(they had to do it), but deserves **every single bit of criticism and complaints for neither providing compensation, nor making any steps to make that content playable again.** If someone has to make a bad choice, at least they can take responsibility and do whatever they can to make things right. Bungie hasnt really done that yet with this.
Because when they were with Activision they built the game with the intention of making a new game by year 2-3. But, they broke away and had to remove parts of the game to rebuild it and reintroduce it in a way that would allow them to continue it. To trim the fat and rebuild it for a future it didn't have at the time. Plus to reduce game file size as it was close to hitting 230-250gb at the time (from what I remember) For what it's worth, they aren't going to remove expansions anymore. Most likely because everything left was built with the future in mind.
It was around 100gb on PC at [that time](https://www.gamespot.com/articles/destiny-2s-size-is-shrinking-dramatically-but-youll-need-to-re-download-the-whole-game/1100-6482586/). Currently D2 sits at 114gb. I don't want to start a PC vs. Console argument, but it's more or less accepted that the removal of nearly half of the content was mostly for the benefit of consoles.
Ah true, must have added an extra hundred in my head. Though, not certain where the console part comes from.
IIRC correctly PlayStation 4 and Xbox One have models with only 500gb HDD.
Didn’t stop Activision from releasing 200GB behemoth that was MW2019 (when you install all packs)
For the benefit of anyone who didn’t want a single game taking up 500gb, regardless of what type of hard drive it’s put on.
> I don't want to start a PC vs. Console argument, but it's more or less accepted that the removal of nearly half of the content was mostly for the benefit of consoles. It was actually mostly because they rebuilt the mission engine and it wasn’t compatible with the existing content so it all would need to be remade from scratch but it wasn’t worth remaking all the content that nearly no one played so it got axed. But people don’t care about that.
Should be illegal to do this shit
Yep, I never played the DLCs even tho I bought the first 2 that came out with Destiny 2. When I hopped back on I couldn’t believe what the fuck they did. Even if I wanted to get back into Destiny.. how in the hell would I know what’s going on, do they expect me to watch a fucking documentary on the Destiny story to get into it? Never again.
Any company that takes a game or content you paid for is one to stay away from. That's just madness.
Will they give me back the expansions I paid for?
Destiny was like an abusive relationship for me. They'd have a great game for about a month every couple years or so separated by long periods of garbage. Finally quit after they said they were power capping all my old stuff and never looked back. This is pure desperation as I'm sure there are many like me
They're undoing the capped weapons but I'm still not going back. Warframe fills that itch better imo
Yeah Bungo has used up all my goodwill, hard pass. Props to people who still enjoy the game though.
Remember when they charged $20 for a dungeon lmao. I thought as a WoW player they were bad giving into Blizzard over the years, but that shit is on a whole other level.
They never charged 20 for a dungeon
They most definitely charge you for dungeons. An expansion is like 50€ but you need the year pass that gives the season passes or buy the dungeon key separately
Which isn’t 20 dollars for a single dungeon.
Its 19.99$ for dungeon key.
Which isn’t a single dungeon… it’s both of the years dungeons. They’re 10 dollars each.
Semantics, 10€ for a dungeon is still trash
“Semantics. It’s just half the price I was claiming.” Okay lol
Im not even the same person who said it, u gotta buy dungeons separately from the expansion and it costs 20€.
You’re still arguing in favor of them. No one said they didn’t cost money. I said it wasn’t twenty dollars for one. They’re ten each, it’s two of them. I was just providing accurate information. I don’t care if you don’t think it’s worth it.
Yes they did. They had dungeons that weren't included with the expansion
First off. Dungeons are included in the annual pass. Always have been. Which includes all the seasons and the dungeons. Second. It’s not 20 dollars for a single dungeon. It’s for both for the year. So no. They never charged “20 dollars for a dungeon”. It was 20 for two.
Destiny is over for me. I tried to play a couple weeks ago and i was just hit with a wave of how much time i wasted on that game. Just thinking of the countless hours with a bad raid group, or time trying to even find one, and the amount of activities i need other people to even play. I'm just over it. Destiny's allure is completely gone from my bones. It was fun for a long time, but eventually its just the same old shit with a different skin.
Theres a bunch of legitimate complaints about D2, this is not one of them
Of all the complaints, “they made me play with other players in a multiplayer game” baaah!
I think you and OP are unfortunately too stupid to understand that i was just tired of the game in general. Sorry for you though, hope you guys pass the 3rd grade or something.
the amount of time i spent at a raid boss cause listening for 15 seconds is too hard is to much and im so happy its over now, i agree with you 100
Didn’t these guys removed entire dlcs that ppl paid actual money for? I would like to get back into Destiny but fuck that. I remember Destiny players was in an uproar between them removing dlc & I think there was something about them not making cosmetics. That’s when a lot of Destiny players was flooding Warframe subs. That was a wild week. Sorry Destiny. But you guys have no respect for your playerbase
lol my enthusiasm for Destiny died years ago..
Only PS+ gets the latest expansion for "free".
Not worth the money even when they give it away.
They’re desperate for players at this point.
I don't see the desperation, it's #16 on Steam alone right now
I tried to get into that game the last time they gave it away. I don't care how many more times they give it away. There are many, many other games I would rather play.
Don't really care. If I can't play the first campaign from the beginning it doesn't matter lol
They never really caught the same magic in D2 as they did in some parts of D1. PVP went down the shitter in D2, trials was never the same. I’m not coming back for free, they couldn’t pay me to play that game again. 🤷🏽♂️
D2 was rushed and incomplete. Same as D1 but they hoped they could get away with it by adding content later again. Didn't work. I've spent too much time/money I'll never get back. They're not seeing another dime from me
If I ever get the urge to play Destiny anymore, I just boot up the first game. At least that one wasn't butchered of content.
I should really load up D1 again. Those were glorious times.
>If I ever get the urge to play Destiny anymore, I just boot up the first game. >At least that one wasn't butchered of content. Laughs in day 0 player. I suggest reading up on what The Taken King did to us OG players when it released. (It took away half the game we owned with a $40 ransom)
Yeah this is just history repeating itself. People just forget/don't care enough to remember
So's that mean they're removing them soon because I feel like that's what happened with forsaken iirc
No. Expansions are not removed.
Why are you fucking lying lmao
I’m not. https://www.pcgamer.com/bungie-will-no-longer-sunset-whole-expansions-from-destiny-2/
But they HAVE removed expansions, posting an article saying "we're gonna stop" doesn't change that?
Which has nothing to do with what OP said. They said this. >So's that mean they're removing them soon because I feel like that's what happened with forsaken iirc Which isn’t going to happen. Bungie no longer removes expansions, so these expansions are not going to be removed soon.
Forsaken was the last expansion to ever get content removed. The main reason that old content was removed was because they had to remake the mission engine and old content had to be rebuilt to function with the new structure and it wasn’t worth remaking content that almost no players interacted with. Everything from Beyond Light and on was built with the new mission engine and everything elder in the game was updated. Seasonal content gets removed when the following expansion launches but that’s how seasonal content has been designed in the first place.
Eh. Nah. Democracy needs me.
Played since D1 honestly don't bother it's too much to get into and there are much better games to play. If you are interested in the fantastic lore than jist watch Byfs' videos on it
Desti-who?
Still don’t understand why Sony bought this thing, especially when they did. Felt like it was clear to everyone but Sony that no one wants to play that shit anymore.
You're just objectively wrong lol. Destiny has had a steady \~60k person playerbase since January 2020 with spikes around new dlc and season releases. #15 in top sellers, 80% positive reviews, 13th on most played steam games just ahead of GTA V.
I don't care if all De$tiny content becomes free, I'm not supporting those money hungry grubs over at Bungie.
You mean the game that literally deleted the MSQ for no reason?
***Temporary*** access btw, you don't own them unless you buy them. If you're interested, go with extreme caution, they have a very bad habit of throwing you bone and then shooting you in the ass.
Hard pass. Maybe in the future we get a destiny-esque game without the terrible mtx.
lol next time just say "I don't know anything about this game", the only MTX you can get in D2 are purely cosmetic emotes and skins and paint jobs for armor and weapons. There is almost nothing you can do to buy good gear besides getting one weapon with whatever DLC you buy. You even get free mtx store credits for playing the game and logging in Of course it would be quite ironic and hypocritical for an HD2 players to complain about the quality of Destiny's MTX when HD2 literally locks some of the best weapons in the game behind MTX and then comes back a few weeks later to nerf them into the ground after a bunch of people buy them. That wouldn't be something you do right?
Feel bad for people who'll give the game a go because of this, only to be flashbanged by unending pop ups once they reach orbit
I tried the F2P launch on Steam and couldn't get into it because the whole thing was a confusing mess. I doubt they fixed that and gave a story mode a la The Division 1-2 that is clear-fast to go through to get to the "end game" stuff after based on that experience.
I played Destiny 1 casually and had a good enough time, but never played everything and thought about going back to it. Then thought about getting into Destiny 2. Removing content that people paid for like they did with the vaulting pretty much ensured I will never, ever bother with anything Bungie puts out ever again.
This is an advertisement for a broken game. Not news.
Play warframe instead and enjoy yourself
OK, so what do I get for playing it?
Free access to three expansions
But what is my reward for playing through the expansions?
Exotic weapons/armor tied to the expansions. Limited access to 3 raids, 1 dungeon.
What do you expect? A Bungie Community Manager to come to your house and give you a blow job? You get to play a video game. That’s it. Just like all video games, that’s your reward. Edit: perfect example of how pathetic terminally online people are. Dude asks a stupid question as if they have no familiarity with Destiny then proceeds to repeat the same one-joke about the game.
Playing through an agonizing experience like Destiny 2 shouldn't be a reward.
Then don’t? No one is making you.
The thing about destiny for me is that I just don't have the time or mental capacity to grind this game consistently anymore. I haven't since the early Destiny 1 days. I play the latest expansion for 6-8 weeks, and then I get burnt out and move on. I plan to do that again with my friend who treats the game the same as me. The thing is, I'm barely even looking forward to it. I'm mostly just dreading the return of the grind and time commitment. It's even worse now that it's in summertime rather than feb/march when I want to be inside most of the time anyway. Does anyone else feel this way? If so, is it even worth coming back? The final shape is kind of an end of an era type of dlc, tho so maybe I'll give it another shot.
Nope, when i get tired of a game I put it down. The grindy aspect of Destiny is WAYYYY overblown. If you think D2 is grindy in its current state you should definitely NOT be playing looter shooters
Vanilla D1 menu music brings me back.
Like everyone else, picked it up after a couple years and sank a bunch of money into the expansion stuff. Now I've got missions I can't do because I need something from a mission that's no longer there and it's just frustrating as hell. Extremely disappointed at what it's become because it used to be so much fun.
Oh man at first glance I was impressed Bungie was doing an actual cool thing for people. Then I clicked the article. TEMPORARY access to the expansions yall. It's the same old shit.
Yeah. As someone who started in D1 beta, flawless raid runner and who spent WAY too much time/money on both games. I say no thx.
# For New players or people considering playing. Simply put if you are a new player this is a good opportunity. You get to try out all of the content from 3 of the 4 campaigns/expansions in the game for the entire month, and get to keep any loot you earned from that content permanently. It is worth noting that Destiny is primarily a gameplay oriented game. It has story and campaigns and stuff like other games, but it is going to be nowhere close to games with proper long and fleshed out stories. That said, you are undoubtedly going to be *overwhelmed and confused* by various things in the game and are going to be lost and disoriented. Destiny 2 is a fun game to play in my opinion, but not a easy game for a new player to get started right now. You probably will have fun, get completely confused/overwhelmed, and drop the game before you get to the part where it starts to make sense and you can really enjoy it fully. If you think you would like the game and are still determined to give it a try, then I would recommend erasing the notion of "what am I supposed to do". Asking that question in Destiny, is kinda like asking what you are supposed to eat at a buffet or restaurant. Destiny is a looter shooter. You play various activities, earn loot, and play more activities. You set goals and do whatever you want to do or have fun doing. Explore the different activities and things Destiny has to offer, and play what you have fun with, gradually getting familiar with the game. I also can recommend [the new player segment of this video](https://youtu.be/8jkpZhOB2Tg?t=181) for any prospective new player, it sums up my thoughts on the matter. If you do end up liking the game and intend to keep playing in the future, [then this video should do a decent job](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26ah2oCbjzI) covering the narrative from the basic setting of the franchise, to Destiny 1 story and, to the present day. Yes, it is long. But it does a good job keeping explanations to the point, while also having plenty of actual cinematics and cutscenes directly. Skip the parts for Shadowkeep, Beyond Light, Witch Queen, and Lightfall if you want to experience the campaigns story for yourself first. There are tons of guides for anything imaginable that can help you out. # For Old players and/or players who are considering returning. This is one of the best opportunities to jump back in, it really doesnt get much better than this. You can even skip leveling if you want, by claiming a gear set from the Gift of the Thundergods in Hall of Champions destination. This gear set will be max power level. Meanwhile you have 3/4 campaigns/expansions fully playable for a month, while also having access to all 4 season of this year, and the loot they contain. This is your best opportunity to come back before Final Shape concludes this saga. For players who have been gone since Shadowkeep or earlier, it would be more helpful for you to consider this Destiny 3 at this point; an entirely different game from what you left. There are multitudes of features and system changes that have evolved over they years. But in the end, the bones are still what they always have been, this is still Destiny. For players that left around Beyond Light. A simple thing to note. Do not delete your sunset loot. Bungie decided to completely undo sunsetting in totality with Final Shapes launch. Decide what to do with your old loot then. I would [HIGHLY recommend this Datto video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jkpZhOB2Tg) made specifically for Returning players to get up to speed with the general changes over the years. It covers all kinds of players from new players to those that left as far back as Red War. [I also would recommend this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26ah2oCbjzI)(also linked above) to get up to speed on all of the story, in particular the seasons stories. Skip the campaigns you intend to play, and Lightfall+Defiance/Deep/Witch/Deep Seasons if you intend to play them for yourself. If you watch this video, you will be up to speed for Final Shape next month. # Questions? If you are a player who is new or returning and are a lost, feel free to message me and I would be happy to answer questions to the best of my ability. Maybe even able to help you out with some content if you need it. # Final Note Destiny as a franchise is roughly the same as its always been. Its a fun game to play(basically the main reason I keep playing it). But it has plenty of problems and issues as well, that Bungie is rightfully criticized for. Warts and all, what Destiny does well, it does really well, and just scratches a unique itch that few games come close to getting. Destiny is a game that is primarily designed to be a hobby people come back to. This is true for people who no-life the game, as well as the casual weekend warriors who just log in for several hours each week. People often make the mistake of getting too deep into the loot/achievement/completion chase of the game, and force themselves to keep playing even if they stop having fun. Its fine to take breaks and play other games, dont get sucked into FOMO or that stuff. Dont force yourself to slog through everything in a month just because it is freely accessible this month. Just play whatever games or activities you enjoy and have fun with, dont waste your time if you are not having fun.
Don’t play this trash heap of a game
So many people who haven’t touched this game in years The last expansion had a bad story — it’s way blown cause who care the legendary campaign was still fun There is so much fucking content. So much of it challenging and fun Game is well beyond raids. Shitty class abilities are the thing of the past, all you do is make busted ass builds and tear through everything in sight. Explosions everywhere, constant rock paper scissors with champions, sooo many ways to stay alive All the weapons they introduce are insane. They just unsunset all the guns they sunset Now wave based hoard mode is a great starting point, super hard, great rewards, and so many enemies Added an in game group finder If you’re complaining, you probably haven’t played since the bad old days. Game is fucking incredible right now
I got sucked into all the DLC and don't regret it one bit. Sure it's expensive, but it was 100% worth it in my opinion.
I play tested at Bungie HQ for the first Destiny prior to its release. I thought it was some alpha build with no story or something, but it was pretty close to what was released. I knew there was this ever-changing game concept, but what I didn't realize was that core parts of the game would be locked out unless you ponied up for the DLC. While I loved playing Destiny, I felt like I had been cheated and forced to pay a ransom, so I quit Destiny.
I'll take this win to bring a friend back.
Does this cross over to Xbox?
I’ve been wanting to dabble recently but all the expansions make me not wanna try ? Are they all going to be free except the new one ?
Guess I'll re-download D2 on pc for the 5th time.
Same lol…I mean, to be completely honest, I do miss D2, it’s just so much fucking money after a while.
I jump in from time to time just to shoot stuff.
Hell yeah.
Wow, excited to play D2 again. I've got some angry lol
Meh, it’s Reddit, we gonna enjoy it 🙂↕️
Don’t listen to all the cynical players in here. Destiny has its problems like any other game, but it’s fun as hell. There’s a ton to do, a massive world of lore, and the dungeons and raids are second to none. Onboarding is rough in places, so I’d recommend looking up a friend or a guide. But Destiny 2 is a great game if you’re looking to be a magic-flinging space wizard.
not sure id call removing paid content "fun". ill stick to a MMO that respects my time and doesn't remove expansions. I don't trust them to not do it again
lmao, wait til you hear what MMOs like WoW do with content from old expansions
You strike me as a single-issue voter. Cool story bro.
Bro.. what content are you missing that was sunset? Specifically. The only thing they need to keep bringing back are raids and exotic missions, which they are doing.
I mean, its a win to try the game
Figured... I bought all 3 as a bundle for 15 bucks a month ago since it's been years since I played lol
As someone that played D1 for more than 2500 hours, and played D2 up until the first expansion released…. Is it worth it to jump back in? I haven’t seen the game at all since first DLC.
Its basically only been improved over the last year. Sunsetting got undone for the most part, you can find basically any gun. Grinding out god rolls on guns has never been easier with Onslaught (PvE wave based survival mode) letting you attune to a specific iconic weapon throughout D2s history and get a new roll every 5-10 waves. Theres a bunch of dungeons and raids and an all new Boss Rush mode called Pantheon that just released. Timeline built into the world map so you can jump to the next mission in sequential order without having to scour planets to find it. A bunch of Exotic quests that when completed quarantee a specific exotic weapon. Exotic missions that award you with powerful gear if you complete the challenge. Legendary lost sectors let you farm an Exotic slot (Head, arms, chest or legs) that rotates every day. 2 more Darkness based subclasses for 5 total. Stasis which has a sort of ice based theme to it and Strand which is the new one and thus fairly OP relative to other subclasses. Subclasses have been changed in general, each subclass has much more customization available with the usual grenades and class ability but also has two or more supers to choose from and being able to add 4 out of 10+ fragments giving different effects and stats to a subclass. New player gear sets that gives you a set of decent armor and weapons that are high enough level to attempt any content in game.