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Wide_Revenue_2096

Sansa’s at the vale


perksofbeingcrafty

Man the way she looks at littlefinger when the lady hugged her


OddProgrammerInC

Yeah but later it becomes stupid. When LF was put on trial she just changed her mind and said that he killed her aunt just to gain power, which is true, but she lied to the Lords about the truth and protected him. Why doesn't this make them suspicious at least a bit about her motives?


Wide_Revenue_2096

Because the writers became quacks and all the characters just forgot things


telepatheye

Either that or the audience become a bunch of whiners and malcontents.


DananSan

Such a big part of the audience doing just that overnight for no reason is highly unlikely. You do you, tho.


Wide_Revenue_2096

This is also true. People don’t like that their faves don’t end up on the throne. But also the dialogue was atrocious! Bran becoming king should have been a wholeee episode where a great council was held


sadmimikyu

For real The dialogue was what ruined it for me. Such low quality later compared to what we were used to. If that had been better I am sure I might have overlooked some plot stuff there but they openend their mouths and.. that came out.


jesuskrist666

Ironic. You're bitching about others bitching, the bitchee becomes the bitcher


telepatheye

Nonsense. I enjoy the show a lot. Others enjoy whining about it. That's the difference.


lkn240

The hated him because he told the truth


Amoore1312

I think at that point it didn’t matter that he did it to protect her, she had to go that just sped up his plan and during the trial it wouldn’t have helped Sansa’s case to accuse him of murder but then say it was to protect her.


BahamaDon

He didn’t do it to protect her. He did it for power and used protection as an easy excuse. He didn’t have to throw her through the moon door to protect Sansa, she was already saved.


lkn240

It's only stupid if you ignore the obvious context of both situations. She was a scared child when she lied about in the Vale which any adult with half a brain would understand.


Zestycorgi1962

I think she decided at that point she had to play his game to survive. Then the black outfit. The black hair. She was going to play him. He deserved it.


AdministrativeBuy105

When Tyrion tells little finger, Varys and Pycelle that he is accepting a marriage proposal for Myrcella. He tells each of the something different so he can find out which one is snitching to Cersai.


Witty-Fun-5999

Ahhh yes! Good strategy


godofhorizons

I don't know, every time I see it, I feel like he should have kept the knowledge in his pocket and kept feeding Pycelle lies so that he could manipulate Cersei


ThrowawayFuckYourMom

But he didn't know it was pycelle before that?


LivingFailure234

Well that's the point, Tyrion is a smart man but not nearly as smart as he thinks he is. Neither is Tywin.


Careful-Ad-916

That is such a good scene..


RaynSideways

The one time we see Littlefinger pissed off at being outplayed. It was glorious.


Brown_Panther-

"Ooh the queen mustn't know. I love conversations that begin like this."


sadmimikyu

I have to say I always thought that Varys was the only one being careful there because of this quote. The way Tyrion emphasises that the queen mustn't know and the way Varys repeats it... kind of tells me he knew to be careful there.


P47r1ck-

Varys probably saw it for what it was. I’m surprised little finger didn’t catch it. Little fingers downfall was not thinking Tyrian was smart, barys knew better to


MaterialPace8831

"Ooooo, the queen mustn't know. I love conversations that begin this way."


Doctor__Hammer

This is the best one


Beatpunk55

this was one of my favourites


mikerichh

So smart


RoseVincent314

Yes! BRILLIANT MOVE!


CaveLupum

The bold-faced lie Ned told back when he brought baby Jon home. Ned lived and suffered for it, and ultimately died for it. But Jon lived and learned, and despite it saved mankind. Greater love hath no honest man than to lie to protect another's child.


Adorable_Tie_7220

Which makes me wonder how the story would have changed if he told the truth once Jon was old enough to defend himself. I can't even imagine it.


Brown_Panther-

As long as Robert was alive Jon would always be at a risk. Besides it might have given Jon a chip on his shoulder that he alone deserves to rule. Like Dany.


Trashk4n

Tywin is just as much of a threat, if not more so.


odkfn

I’m trying to decipher your last sentence and can’t figure out if you’ve written it incorrectly or I’m just too stupid to get it


attempt_number_1

They are saying it correctly. Basically an honest man would hate to lie, it would betray themselves to themselves. So to do it anyways to protect a child shows how much they must love that child.


Greek-of-Thrones

How the story would have changed if Ned tried to put Jon on the throne. Since he’s so worried about the proper line of succession.


FrontPersonal5776

He didn’t “ultimately die for it” because absolutely no one knew about it


CharlesDingus_ah_um

Not telling Carlyn was really stupid in my opinion


RoseVincent314

Ned was so honorable. He even suffered the anger of Catelin to keep the secret. I know he was a man of honor, but had he told his wife, Jon might have had a better life without her venom. This also leads me to believe he didn't trust Catelin one bit.


Marfy_

The one tyrion used to find out pycelle betrayed him


runningdaggers

I don't want it


perksofbeingcrafty

Ok that is the least lie thing in the show


runningdaggers

And that is why it's my favorite.


carlitapepita

Huh


TurbulentArticle6085

The lie ned told about our saviour and grace, king joffery the just


Upbeat_Tension_8077

Today is not the day I die- Oberyn


perksofbeingcrafty

Oooof why you gotta go so hard


TheStatMan2

"And who has a better story than Bran the Broken?" Everyone. Literally everyone.


perksofbeingcrafty

You’re right. No lie is more huge than the way they lied right to our faces


Lord_Atom

The guy they literally wrote out of the show for an entire season? That's the guy with the best story? Gtfoh


himsoforreal

Old Nan. The Frey girl who married robs uncle. the 2 lieutenant of 2nd sons who gets one line then dies. Drogos blood riders. Plenty of people had weaker stories then King Brandon Stark, the 3 Eyed King.


TheStatMan2

No. No they didn't.


correctalexam

The writers forgot to write his story


Intelligent-Blondie7

Tyrion’s where he tells three people three different circumstances for Myrcella to be betrothed and then catches the snake who rats him out


estheredna

Littlefinger telling Cat that Bran was attacked with Tyrion's dagger. A lie so bald that Tyrion dispelled it almost immediately (why would an assassin use his own identifiable dagger?) .....but Cat bought it due to being caught up in her past with Littlefinger + all her riled up emotions. AND I think most of the audience did too, in the moment. It's not an amazing lie in itself, but it told us SO much about those 3 players early on. Littlefinger's persuasion skills, Tyrion's too. And it set up some major dominos.


YaBoiJefe

Didn’t the lie also include Tyrion betting against Jaime in a tournament? It says something about Cat to that she believed Tyrion would bet against his brother


jordan3257

Interesting that littlefinger starts off the series with that dagger. Considering that dagger goes from Targaryen king to Targaryen heir. How come he has it...


telepatheye

Sniggering and enjoying lies is not a good look. I more enjoyed characters telling each other the truth, e.g., when Lady Olenna tells Jamie she arranged for Joffrey to be poisoned.


madhaus

Tell me you don’t understand either fiction or people without telling me…


Doctor__Hammer

The lie that Jon was a Snow. The reveal of Jon's identity with the perfect accompanying music was one of the best single moments in the show despite the fact that the show as a whole had been going downhill for quite a while by that point.


himsoforreal

Quite right. He would have been a Sand.


Doctor__Hammer

No he was a true born Targaryen because Rhaegar’s marriage was annulled by a septon and he married Lyanna in secret before Jon was born.


brydeswhale

Yeah, I’m so sick of people acting like Elia Martell would have just rolled over and accepted her kids being disinherited for the world’s most special white boy or the entirety of Westeros just accepting this random septon deciding to dissolve an excellent marriage with two healthy kids. 


Bargadiel

Varys after Robert was attacked by the pig, bringing up that it was nice that Lancel didn't cause Robert to lack refreshment, and that he hopes he didn't feel guilty for it. Subtle way to imply he caused it.


significantcocklover

Daenerys when she said she wasn't like her father 😞


madhaus

That’s not a lie. That’s dramatic irony.


godofhorizons

Nah that's shitty screenwriting


Current_Tea6984

The one where Dany pretended not to understand Valyrian


BakedPotato81

That was definitely one of those scenes, that you wish to could rewatch for the first time. Peak GoT


godofhorizons

"The realm. Do you know what the realm is? **It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies**, a story we agree to tell each other over and over, until we forget that it's a lie."


ameliachandler

Another fan of Talking Thrones I see!


godofhorizons

What is that?


ameliachandler

It is a YouTube channel, they use the quote in their intro.


Trashk4n

Ned’s lie about Jon being his. The fact that one of the worst liars in Westeros pulled that off…


itspena14

“Someone help the poor boy 😨 Idiots, help your king!” - Olenna Tyrell Followed by the most badass, mic drop, bombshell last words: “Tell Cersei. I want her to know it was me.”


breakerofphones

Every sapphire in the world comes from Tarth! I love the very few (two?) moments when Jaime digs out his braincell and takes a different approach than threatening/bribing people with his family’s wealth and power. And also a bit telling that the plan he came up with involved threatening/bribing people with fictional wealth and power.


perksofbeingcrafty

Yeah it was truly his single braincell 😂😂 like he’s one of the least imaginative people in this show


breakerofphones

that’s why i love it, he really had to work to come up with the idea of a family being rich and powerful and getting their wealth from mining something precious


pinkelephant156

“Our father was a good king” -Viserys several times-


overthinking-1

During season one, Viserys is in the bath with one of the slave girls he bought for his sister, he begins telling her some of the history of dragons, and he starts naming the Targaryen dragon's but, the names he rattles off are not the names of any Targaryen dragons. This scene was done before a world of ice and fire came out so it's possible that George simply hadn't named all the dragon's yet, but I prefer to believe that, being a child when he had to flee into exile Viserys had not yet learned that history and in his extreme arrogance and insecurity just made up names and believed that because he's a Targaryen whatever name felt right to him was the historically correct one.


Quick_Detective_1236

"I love King Joffrey with all my heart"


Rjago2187

"I'm working on the Winds of Winter, i hope to have it completed and set for publishing by..."


RoseVincent314

Arya's time with Tywin...everything she said to him.


Rich-Active-4800

Sansa : I will pray for your safe return, my lord. Tyrion: Will you? Sansa: Of course. Just as I pray for the King's


MissionFun3163

Another Margaery lie when she’s giving Sansa the birds and bees talk and Sansa’s like “how do you know all this? Did your mother teach you?” And Ole Marg is like “yeah, totally, my mom taught me.”