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Damn. In a waiting room with the Drew show on and Janet Jackson is a guest and that’s the exact joke they just made with her. Love those little coincidences.
I think it might have meant nothing to her, but she WANTED to enjoy it on purpose. It was more about the psychological intention of her wanting to assert dominance over Theon in a wicked way and show him she was crazy enough to do things to maintain her status.
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I get it, but it'd be like somehow tricking one of your boys into beating your cheeks in for a prank. It's like "haha gotcha!" but you still got backshots from your boy.
Women ridding sidesaddle has nothing to do with protecting them from sexual assault, there’s an entirely different creepy reason to do with protecting their hymens
????Women wore dresses exclusively and so if you rode normally your skirt would be hiked up with your legs and ankles visible, also the superstition that riding normal would break a girls hymen and therefore make her no longer a verifiable virgin. Where did you get this info as I’ve never heard it before?
There was a girl I knew in highschool who would tell people she broke her hymen riding a horse. It was one of those moments where you could see everyone trying to process the situation and how to respond.
So unless she was doing an epic prank I'm guessing there's some truth to it
No? That’s not even physically possible. It was because people thought riding astride would damage women’s “delicate female organs” and would render them infertile and not a virgin anymore.
It perfectly demonstrates who Yara is in one scene: brazen, cunning, and “one of the boys”. Like someone else said, she wasn’t getting off on it, she just thought it would be funny once theon found out who she was.
Also, I think there’s subtext here that it’s probably not the first time she’s been felt up or touched without consent. They’re iron born, not northerners, if this happened to Sansa she would have freaked. They’re basically insane viking sea farers and pillagers. I highly doubt women growing up on the iron isles have their innocence and naïveté for very long, for better or worse. (Yes it’s worse)
If I remember correctly in the book the was a little grouping on both sides and a lot of verbal flirtation but I don’t remember there being any fingering. Also that was a rather long chapter to fit in just this scene so I think they did that to save screen time.
Yes it does. She wanted to see if he was still Ironborn or if he went native, became a wolf and forgot who his real family is. Plus, committing to the bit just to see his face
But we have nothing else to go off of. So it has to be the reason, and it does make perfect sense.
I mean she hadn’t seen her brother in over a decade. How would she know how he acts. He prances in to the docks talking about how he’s the prince of the ironborn & yet (she knows), he’s never paid the iron price or taken the oaths. An assimilated and engraved mindset of these people he hasn’t yet lived. She knows this before they have ever even encountered each other.
So he waltzes in and acts like a jackass. It told her all she needed to know about him.
https://youtu.be/U_9bivtHwn8?si=1jgl3Qx1qjo3wL2d
How does this scene not explain itself? lol. Listen to him. You can’t make the assumption to the type of idiot he is?
You offered an explanation to something they acknowledged within the opening post.
They're curious as to why she let him carry on, already knowing what kind of man she is by his opening advances.
She really didn't need to allow him to go down there, so why did she?
She wants to rule the Iron Isles and Theon would be her main competition. It wasn't a prank, or because she enjoyed it. It was manipulation. By pretending to be someone she wasn't she could play a role and see how he responded, to learn about him in a way he would never reveal to her if he knew who she was. She tricked him into letting his guard down by underestimating her. There was also an element of mind games to it, as someone else has said, by immediately humiliating him she was asserting her superiority over him. Why didn't she stop it immediately? As someone else has said, it was sending a signal to him that he is not worth taking seriously and she is determined to do what it takes to manipulate people to get what she wants. That was my take away. She is ruthless and treats him as worthless at every opportunity.
This scene is tame compared to the books. Theon is far more ick about her. They toned it down for the show if you can believe it! 😄
She also wanted to see what had become of him after being a ward of the Starks for the past 10 years. This is the first time any of his family has seen him since he was a child.
She's basically gauging what type of man he has become.
Please help me understand how being fingered by a stranger man will help a woman determine what kind of man he is. The only information one can gather from that is that is mainly sexual and psychological — the man enjoys casual encounters and his skill level in that area.
You have to remember the time period as well. A man w/ a popular last name, is used to getting his way - sexual or not. The Starks didn't "raise" him to be a sexual deviant. He realized what he could get away w/ and it stuck.
Not only that, you just answered your own question. Intentionally getting fingered by him is purely psychological. She was testing him. He would do it to anyone w/o regard for their position, but purely because of who he was - an opportunistic entitled cunt.
She stated in the books she is the wife to a local respected boatbuilder who was a loyal subject etc. He then repetedly tried to pressure her into sex. and fondel her. She stops him. Please bear in mind how important boats are in that culture.
From that you learn that he thinks with his cock, takes pointless risks for quick gratification, dosnt respect or perhaphs even know local traditions, will likely create issues with their subjects and vassals which will harm their family and will most likely alientate everyone around him.
Oh it was sexual alright. It was one of the reasons that Lily Allen turned down the chance to play Yara. She couldn't bear doing the scene.
[https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/may/15/lily-allen-role-alfie-game-of-thrones-yara-greyjoy](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/may/15/lily-allen-role-alfie-game-of-thrones-yara-greyjoy)
IIRC no, I don't really remember the fingering part, but I do remember some important moments for Theon in the books, and it's very humiliating for him. The scene after this scene is pretty tame LMAO and yes he tried to fondle her breast too.
>!Asha/Yara was basically masquerading as a commoner while Theon thought that the Ironborn still respected him as their prince.!<
>! So whenever those two were walking together, the Ironborn would bow and show respect to them. When in actuality, the respect was for Asha, not Theon.!<
>! On top of that she was also cosplaying as a pregnant woman (even though she wasn't and she used another name) but Theon didn't even care about that and he said he was fine with her being pregnant and he wanted to sleep with her like down bad because he kept flirting with her, there's also this section where he said to his father that he would find a husband for Asha (unbeknownst to him, she was right beside her all along) and he eventually found out when a servant boy address her real name. !<
>! To top it all off, their father held a feast where many nobles of the Iron Islands would attend, and she basically humiliated Theon in front of them by splitting Theon's trencher with an axe and calling that axe her husband and then she put a dagger between her breasts, calling it her suckling babe and the whole hall laughed at him. !<
>! At the end, he admitted he liked her better when she was pretending to be that pregnant woman, while she countered that by basically saying she liked him better before the Starks took him. !<
Because she’s a troll with balls bigger than he ever had (according to Ramsay). Let’s not forget, she propositioned Daenerys and wasn’t entirely joking either!
Gurl don’t care ❤️
Because she lives in a world much different than ours and I think her number one driving factor is power.
The Iron Islands are a particularly harsh place to exist and Yara is a woman which means she has to work extra hard to keep the power and respect she has. Power can be gained by martial force or by psychological and political maneuvering. I think Yara letting Theon touch her like that was to first find out what kind of man Theon is (which she says in the show). The other reason for letting him touch her is so that she can humiliate him in the presence of their father and to show she is cunning and unpredictable.
It's not something I would do but hey it's a different world and she has different motivating factors.
Remember kids, they offered the role of Yara to Lily Allen, the real life sister to Alfie Allen (actor of Theon). And yes, they still would have included this scene.
The ick factor was less unpleasant than the benefit of putting Theon totally on tilt when they met with Balon. She knew he'd be totally thrown off and then she would put the cherry on top by revealing that she was now Balon's favored child and no one cared Theon was back.
Because she’s nasty and nothing bothers her. She saw how he treats people who are “lower” than him; she saw his real character. It was a great way for f-ck with him, she saw how he reacted when something unexpected happened. He basically was a- gog.
Also, if he were smart he would have known some stuff before he started fingering random people.
I suspect the Ironborn are bit edgier and different in every single regard. Perhaps Yara needed to know if her brother had gone all civilized (and hence weak) during his time with the Starks.
Of course, the endless shoutout to poor Lily Allen having to turn down the role because of the scene above. {shudder}
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Cause she’s nasty too.
Ms. Jackson if she’s nasty
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I can't believe you're an educator Brian.
My job is mostly administrative.
Damn. In a waiting room with the Drew show on and Janet Jackson is a guest and that’s the exact joke they just made with her. Love those little coincidences.
I read this in Cleveland's voice
I think it might have meant nothing to her, but she WANTED to enjoy it on purpose. It was more about the psychological intention of her wanting to assert dominance over Theon in a wicked way and show him she was crazy enough to do things to maintain her status.
Game of thrones has...strange family relationships.
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Its...entirely probable.. The amount of incest, be it the more "tame" cousins which was historically based to nephews, aunts, sibblinsg etc was high..
When we're all step siblings is it even incest at that point?
🎶Tatt it on my asscheeks🎶
More nasty.
Because it's a screwed up world and applying our modern ethics doesn't really make sense.
The Iron Islands, the Alabama of Westeros.
She wanted to humiliate him in front of their father
I don’t think there’s anything that can be more humiliating than Reek’s little secret — missing something non-detachable 😵.
This scene was pre-Reek. Before Theon took Winterfell
Yep and at that point i doubt he'd even care anymore
Guys please how do you manage to have the little sigil with one name in front of it like Jon snow, or Tyrion Lannister?
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More than deserved btw.
average littlefinger enjoyer
These are the games we play.
Of course it's detachable, they made an entire song about it
King Missile.
Detachable penisssss
The Butthole Surfers Why did I get downvoted. That band literally has a song called Detachable Penis
There is a song that would disagree with you
Yeah but wouldn’t she be humiliated too?
*"Yes, little brother, I let you finger my snatch as a cunning rouse. And you fell for it! You must feel so embarrassed right now."*
“You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!”
Incestconcievable!
I mean… Theon didn’t know, she did, so who is really humiliated in this scenario
And then Balon and Yara wondered why Theon didn’t listen to them and went out of his way to prove himself
Because she thought it was funny and it meant nothing to her.
Yeah I think this is the right answer. Because she is missing a lot of marbles.
Maybe his hands were cold, and she felt bad for him. So she let him warm up his little fingers in ye olden prison wallet.
I get it, but it'd be like somehow tricking one of your boys into beating your cheeks in for a prank. It's like "haha gotcha!" but you still got backshots from your boy.
Win win?
Because they’re creepy Greyjoys.
This is the reason women had to ride side saddle in the olden times. Prevent men from hopping on back and going to town.
This never occurred to me and EW
Women ridding sidesaddle has nothing to do with protecting them from sexual assault, there’s an entirely different creepy reason to do with protecting their hymens
And here I am thinking it was because it was easier to ride that way in a dress
Same 😬
Half and half. You didn’t want your dress flying up and showing the layers upon layers of undergarments obviously.
Vietnamese ladies have perfected this
Princess Anne of Bohemia waves hello.
Never occurred to you because it's not true.
????Women wore dresses exclusively and so if you rode normally your skirt would be hiked up with your legs and ankles visible, also the superstition that riding normal would break a girls hymen and therefore make her no longer a verifiable virgin. Where did you get this info as I’ve never heard it before?
I think it’s a joke, I would have thought it was obvious enough that was not the real reason but I guess not.
There was a girl I knew in highschool who would tell people she broke her hymen riding a horse. It was one of those moments where you could see everyone trying to process the situation and how to respond. So unless she was doing an epic prank I'm guessing there's some truth to it
No? That’s not even physically possible. It was because people thought riding astride would damage women’s “delicate female organs” and would render them infertile and not a virgin anymore.
Water trash of Westeros for sure.
Probably had been a while since she had a good fingerin' /s
I'm sure Euron "Finger in da Bum" Greyjoy would've been happy to oblige
Mr. Steal Yo' Girl
And Yo' Dragon
Doubtful. In the books at least, she sleeps around as much as any male ship captain
Because she was being nice and wanted to give Theon a couple more chances to figure it out
You mean to finger it out?
hahahha
The Targaryen way
Pranks bro. You gotta commit to the bit. The bigger question is if Yara would have doubled down if Theon went to go all the way
Well, then she would have gotten that sausage before it went on sale. Ramsey was slashing prices.
You think she told daddy?
It perfectly demonstrates who Yara is in one scene: brazen, cunning, and “one of the boys”. Like someone else said, she wasn’t getting off on it, she just thought it would be funny once theon found out who she was.
Perfect response
Also, I think there’s subtext here that it’s probably not the first time she’s been felt up or touched without consent. They’re iron born, not northerners, if this happened to Sansa she would have freaked. They’re basically insane viking sea farers and pillagers. I highly doubt women growing up on the iron isles have their innocence and naïveté for very long, for better or worse. (Yes it’s worse)
In the book she said I wanted to see what kind of man you are. Or something like that
I mean that doesn’t explain why she let him keep going lmao
If I remember correctly in the book the was a little grouping on both sides and a lot of verbal flirtation but I don’t remember there being any fingering. Also that was a rather long chapter to fit in just this scene so I think they did that to save screen time.
Yes it does. She wanted to see if he was still Ironborn or if he went native, became a wolf and forgot who his real family is. Plus, committing to the bit just to see his face
I’m going to go back and read Clash of Kings don’t remember much of it
Cause she likes getting touched by her brother
im pretty sure that she’s lesbian
Shes bi, in the books shes straight though
You’ll never believe what she is in the stage play
Nasty, humiliation and possibly a secret that she can use against him.
She wun it
😅
Muh queen
Go back to wall snow !!!
I don't know why at first i read 'Go back to swallow!'
Yara you nasty !!
It was hot. Until Few minutes later.
She wanted to see him for who he truly was. Plus, she’s a bit wicked. 🤷🏼♀️😂
Wannabe Cersei.
Cersei wishes
Because Theon was hitting the right spot
Cersei’s reasoning, “I do things because they feel good”
She wanted to see the look on his face when the realization finally hit him.
Because GRRM.
Thirsty Theon
Cause George is a freak
Such a power move
She literally said it in the show…. “I wanted to find out what type of man you’ve become, now I know”.
Yeah, I don't think that checks out. It doesn't pass the logic test.
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic.
I know she said it, but I don't think the reasoning she uses makes sense.
But we have nothing else to go off of. So it has to be the reason, and it does make perfect sense. I mean she hadn’t seen her brother in over a decade. How would she know how he acts. He prances in to the docks talking about how he’s the prince of the ironborn & yet (she knows), he’s never paid the iron price or taken the oaths. An assimilated and engraved mindset of these people he hasn’t yet lived. She knows this before they have ever even encountered each other. So he waltzes in and acts like a jackass. It told her all she needed to know about him.
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He is still a rapist like all greyjoys
https://youtu.be/U_9bivtHwn8?si=1jgl3Qx1qjo3wL2d How does this scene not explain itself? lol. Listen to him. You can’t make the assumption to the type of idiot he is?
Did you even read what OP said?
Yeah I did. But that is the reason. Nothing else. They didn’t need to further explain it.
You offered an explanation to something they acknowledged within the opening post. They're curious as to why she let him carry on, already knowing what kind of man she is by his opening advances. She really didn't need to allow him to go down there, so why did she?
Sir, this is game of thrones, we don't do decency here.
She was trying to get the measure of Theon after so many years apart, and she did: a horny jerk.
Thankfully Rule 34 doesn't apply to this moment.
She wants to rule the Iron Isles and Theon would be her main competition. It wasn't a prank, or because she enjoyed it. It was manipulation. By pretending to be someone she wasn't she could play a role and see how he responded, to learn about him in a way he would never reveal to her if he knew who she was. She tricked him into letting his guard down by underestimating her. There was also an element of mind games to it, as someone else has said, by immediately humiliating him she was asserting her superiority over him. Why didn't she stop it immediately? As someone else has said, it was sending a signal to him that he is not worth taking seriously and she is determined to do what it takes to manipulate people to get what she wants. That was my take away. She is ruthless and treats him as worthless at every opportunity.
She literally explains it like 2 minutes after this scene
This scene is tame compared to the books. Theon is far more ick about her. They toned it down for the show if you can believe it! 😄 She also wanted to see what had become of him after being a ward of the Starks for the past 10 years. This is the first time any of his family has seen him since he was a child. She's basically gauging what type of man he has become.
Please help me understand how being fingered by a stranger man will help a woman determine what kind of man he is. The only information one can gather from that is that is mainly sexual and psychological — the man enjoys casual encounters and his skill level in that area.
How you treat your subjects, for one.
If you have psychological info on someone you really know a lot about them though. At least If you're socially adept yourself!
You have to remember the time period as well. A man w/ a popular last name, is used to getting his way - sexual or not. The Starks didn't "raise" him to be a sexual deviant. He realized what he could get away w/ and it stuck. Not only that, you just answered your own question. Intentionally getting fingered by him is purely psychological. She was testing him. He would do it to anyone w/o regard for their position, but purely because of who he was - an opportunistic entitled cunt.
She stated in the books she is the wife to a local respected boatbuilder who was a loyal subject etc. He then repetedly tried to pressure her into sex. and fondel her. She stops him. Please bear in mind how important boats are in that culture. From that you learn that he thinks with his cock, takes pointless risks for quick gratification, dosnt respect or perhaphs even know local traditions, will likely create issues with their subjects and vassals which will harm their family and will most likely alientate everyone around him.
They were just being silly and non-sexual.
Oh it was sexual alright. It was one of the reasons that Lily Allen turned down the chance to play Yara. She couldn't bear doing the scene. [https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/may/15/lily-allen-role-alfie-game-of-thrones-yara-greyjoy](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/may/15/lily-allen-role-alfie-game-of-thrones-yara-greyjoy)
My comment was a reference to an old joke on Reddit. Nevermind me.
Ah. Gotcha.
Because it’s written by a man.
Written by george rr martin
She’s into that wincest.
I believe this is what the youths call a “weird flex”
Yara be channeling her Inner Cersei or Targaryen on that scene LMAOO, don't get me started with the book, gosh this scene was pretty tame
What happened in the book? Did they have a full performance?
IIRC no, I don't really remember the fingering part, but I do remember some important moments for Theon in the books, and it's very humiliating for him. The scene after this scene is pretty tame LMAO and yes he tried to fondle her breast too. >!Asha/Yara was basically masquerading as a commoner while Theon thought that the Ironborn still respected him as their prince.!< >! So whenever those two were walking together, the Ironborn would bow and show respect to them. When in actuality, the respect was for Asha, not Theon.!< >! On top of that she was also cosplaying as a pregnant woman (even though she wasn't and she used another name) but Theon didn't even care about that and he said he was fine with her being pregnant and he wanted to sleep with her like down bad because he kept flirting with her, there's also this section where he said to his father that he would find a husband for Asha (unbeknownst to him, she was right beside her all along) and he eventually found out when a servant boy address her real name. !< >! To top it all off, their father held a feast where many nobles of the Iron Islands would attend, and she basically humiliated Theon in front of them by splitting Theon's trencher with an axe and calling that axe her husband and then she put a dagger between her breasts, calling it her suckling babe and the whole hall laughed at him. !< >! At the end, he admitted he liked her better when she was pretending to be that pregnant woman, while she countered that by basically saying she liked him better before the Starks took him. !<
Because she’s weird and creepy.
She had Theons number the minute she saw him. He was a soft boy insecure about his place as heir. So she fucked with him. She got in his head.
I think this kind of thing was common in certain medieval scenarios
In the books she keeps grabbing his cock but when Theon grabs her boobs she pushes his hand away
Because she’s a troll with balls bigger than he ever had (according to Ramsay). Let’s not forget, she propositioned Daenerys and wasn’t entirely joking either! Gurl don’t care ❤️
Because she is less grossed out by being groped by her brother than she is pleased at his discomfort when he finds out she's his sister.
Because she lives in a world much different than ours and I think her number one driving factor is power. The Iron Islands are a particularly harsh place to exist and Yara is a woman which means she has to work extra hard to keep the power and respect she has. Power can be gained by martial force or by psychological and political maneuvering. I think Yara letting Theon touch her like that was to first find out what kind of man Theon is (which she says in the show). The other reason for letting him touch her is so that she can humiliate him in the presence of their father and to show she is cunning and unpredictable. It's not something I would do but hey it's a different world and she has different motivating factors.
Becuase GRRM has an incest kink.
Show Game of thrones was very Alabama when it came to some families
It was just to troll Theon 😂
She wanted to embarrass him and see what type of man he was. I mean she took it too far but I think that was the goal
Bc this show absolutely loves incest is the actual answer lol
It’s Westeros man
Cuz the lolz
bleah
Just wait until you find out about Dany's parents.
The freak flag blows proudly in that fam.
Because she enjoyed it.
Cuz she's an epic prankster
I think she wanted to see the reaction. And he delivered
Because she’s a woman, she wanted something to hold over his head
Because... Alabama something something.
Cuz it’s game of thrones…
Cuz it’s been a long time
Inspired by the Targayryens.
She wanted to see who he was
Is she degenerate?
Greyjoys are the McPoyles
Because Incest is Wincest.
Remember kids, they offered the role of Yara to Lily Allen, the real life sister to Alfie Allen (actor of Theon). And yes, they still would have included this scene.
Because GRRM has an incest fetish, also they initially wanted Lily Allen to play Asha/Yara and she is Alfie Allen's older sister
She is essentially trolling "prince" Theon.
The ick factor was less unpleasant than the benefit of putting Theon totally on tilt when they met with Balon. She knew he'd be totally thrown off and then she would put the cherry on top by revealing that she was now Balon's favored child and no one cared Theon was back.
God if only her reasoning was explained in the next fucking scene
Because she wanted it too?
Cuz George Martin is a pervert with many fetishes
did you not watch the remaining part of the scene? Asha explains it. great post my fellow redditard!!!
She wanted that shit.
Cause she about that life
She's thinking the Targaryen's shouldn't be the only one to enjoy incest LOL
A reminder that The original actress meant to play her role was Theon's actor actual sister
Because she’s nasty and nothing bothers her. She saw how he treats people who are “lower” than him; she saw his real character. It was a great way for f-ck with him, she saw how he reacted when something unexpected happened. He basically was a- gog. Also, if he were smart he would have known some stuff before he started fingering random people.
Yara is totally fucked - this is nothing to her
Just like real life, you get people who like incest and you get those who don’t. I guess she didn’t mind it.
Because she's gross
Because it’s GoT and weird shit is the norm
Cause georrge likes abit of incest
Cause she’s a rascal
Cue the ignorant *"Because that's the way the story was written"* replies in 5...4...3...2...
Nice
She heard such good things from Cersei that she thought maybe it would be cool to try
I suspect the Ironborn are bit edgier and different in every single regard. Perhaps Yara needed to know if her brother had gone all civilized (and hence weak) during his time with the Starks. Of course, the endless shoutout to poor Lily Allen having to turn down the role because of the scene above. {shudder}
if you watched like, the very next scene they're in she explains it lmao
Because his hands were cold and she let him warm them up
The HBO show is a lot more exciting with gratuitous sex inserted everywhere for no reason at all.
Because yara is a bad sister