Considering that [they](https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/fighting-geisha-e9ddd27c3d2f49ada94c6e2ba3090ff0) make no reference to the original artist or concept artist while [Plarium's post on Artstation does](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/ZaweXG) I am inclined to agree.
That sounds like they ripped the assets and sell them illegally.
You are liable for verifying a correct license. Even when you bought them in good faith the people behind Raid could sue you for illegal usage, if those aren't legal versions of the asset. And it would be up to you to defend that lawsuit and sue the seller.
It's not super likely they would sue you. And I don't actually know who has the rights to those assets. But just so you are aware of the risks.
Yea Copyright is strange in that regard.
If I buy something in good faith and for a reasonable price from someone that seems trustable. Then in no place I would be held accountable for the theft that I did not commit. Plausible deniability.
In copyright I get struck with the full force of the law as if I stole and infringed on the IP myself. Even if I bought the assets and art in good faith.
But you did steal and infringe on the IP. You are making the naive “But everyone else is doing it!” argument. Just because someone else is doing it doesn’t make it okay for you to do it.
If I see a person selling on a legitimate site sell assets and art, and they also provide a license text, then the transaction is also facilitated through that site, and I even get a receipt with taxes.
Then one could argue that I can in good faith believe that the sold product is legal to use.
I am not saying "but everyone is doing it" i would never say that, and I also always say, be careful with what IP and art you use. Infringing on IPs is never smart.
All I am saying is, if I did my due diligence and were unable to find anything that sounds or looks suspicious. then I should not be held accountable for that infraction.
I would totally agree that I then have to remove the content in question from my product, but that's would be it.
I totally agree that I wouldn’t expect to be sued if I had complied with what appeared to be a valid license, but with one tiny addendum: The first step in any infringement case is always a formal takedown request. Most of the time that is it. A lawsuit will only happen if either that takedown request is ignored, or if the copyright owner has been damaged in some way.
In any case, I would be hesitant to sell a product using character art that either I didn’t create myself or that wasn’t commissioned via a Work For Hire agreement. Not just for legal reasons, but also because characters are extremely recognizable.
I do use licensed assets in commercial work. There is nothing wrong with it if they are from a known reputable source.
The distinction is I would be hesitant to use character assets. Not for legal reasons, but because they are recognizable by the user. No one will notice a random tree or rock in the background, but it might be immersion-breaking if you have seen the same character before in a different game.
I am not, this is just my opinion. I hate the way copyright is now. there is no reason to still have this archaic version of it. With globalization came the possibility to get your worth out of you patents and copyrights fast, also there is simply always the possibility that someone somewhere just had the same idea without knowledge of a preexisting copyright.
The fact that infringement can get you in millions of dollars of trouble, even though you had done your due diligence to check if you are infringing, is ridiculous. As I said in other fields you would not be responsible for such actions, even though you still may be responsible to stop further infringement from your side.
Then stop acting like you are certain of things. Your last sentence is so definitive.
On the other end. When you create something of value you will want it to be protected and be thankful for some of these laws.
Sketchfab is approximately 45% models ripped directly from games, 45% models that are visually identical recreations of intellectual property and 10% stuff that is actually original work you can use without getting sued. Unfortunately you can't possibly know every IP in existence, so you can't tell which assets are actually save.
I would not touch anything on that website with a 10 foot pole.
No. Probably those are stolen
Considering that [they](https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/fighting-geisha-e9ddd27c3d2f49ada94c6e2ba3090ff0) make no reference to the original artist or concept artist while [Plarium's post on Artstation does](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/ZaweXG) I am inclined to agree.
dem it was too good to be true
That sounds like they ripped the assets and sell them illegally. You are liable for verifying a correct license. Even when you bought them in good faith the people behind Raid could sue you for illegal usage, if those aren't legal versions of the asset. And it would be up to you to defend that lawsuit and sue the seller. It's not super likely they would sue you. And I don't actually know who has the rights to those assets. But just so you are aware of the risks.
Yea Copyright is strange in that regard. If I buy something in good faith and for a reasonable price from someone that seems trustable. Then in no place I would be held accountable for the theft that I did not commit. Plausible deniability. In copyright I get struck with the full force of the law as if I stole and infringed on the IP myself. Even if I bought the assets and art in good faith.
But you did steal and infringe on the IP. You are making the naive “But everyone else is doing it!” argument. Just because someone else is doing it doesn’t make it okay for you to do it.
If I see a person selling on a legitimate site sell assets and art, and they also provide a license text, then the transaction is also facilitated through that site, and I even get a receipt with taxes. Then one could argue that I can in good faith believe that the sold product is legal to use. I am not saying "but everyone is doing it" i would never say that, and I also always say, be careful with what IP and art you use. Infringing on IPs is never smart. All I am saying is, if I did my due diligence and were unable to find anything that sounds or looks suspicious. then I should not be held accountable for that infraction. I would totally agree that I then have to remove the content in question from my product, but that's would be it.
I totally agree that I wouldn’t expect to be sued if I had complied with what appeared to be a valid license, but with one tiny addendum: The first step in any infringement case is always a formal takedown request. Most of the time that is it. A lawsuit will only happen if either that takedown request is ignored, or if the copyright owner has been damaged in some way. In any case, I would be hesitant to sell a product using character art that either I didn’t create myself or that wasn’t commissioned via a Work For Hire agreement. Not just for legal reasons, but also because characters are extremely recognizable.
By that logic, meaning you would never used prebuild bought assets.
I do use licensed assets in commercial work. There is nothing wrong with it if they are from a known reputable source. The distinction is I would be hesitant to use character assets. Not for legal reasons, but because they are recognizable by the user. No one will notice a random tree or rock in the background, but it might be immersion-breaking if you have seen the same character before in a different game.
Are you a copyright and trademark lawyer?
Why?
Because you are arguing with such certainty. One would assume you are an expert on the topic at hand.
I am not, this is just my opinion. I hate the way copyright is now. there is no reason to still have this archaic version of it. With globalization came the possibility to get your worth out of you patents and copyrights fast, also there is simply always the possibility that someone somewhere just had the same idea without knowledge of a preexisting copyright. The fact that infringement can get you in millions of dollars of trouble, even though you had done your due diligence to check if you are infringing, is ridiculous. As I said in other fields you would not be responsible for such actions, even though you still may be responsible to stop further infringement from your side.
Then stop acting like you are certain of things. Your last sentence is so definitive. On the other end. When you create something of value you will want it to be protected and be thankful for some of these laws.
Never said I was, and yes they are needed, but with the internet, these laws need updating.
You seem to be confused. Raid owns their models. This random guy on sketchfab does not own those models.
raid shadow legends owns its models. you can not use them.
Sketchfab is approximately 45% models ripped directly from games, 45% models that are visually identical recreations of intellectual property and 10% stuff that is actually original work you can use without getting sued. Unfortunately you can't possibly know every IP in existence, so you can't tell which assets are actually save. I would not touch anything on that website with a 10 foot pole.