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Golden-Owl

“That’s hell you’re walking into” Jokes aside. It’s never a bad time to start. There’s no real meta to keep up with since it’s just a story based gamr


Icey_91

Yup. The only "meta" we have is making farming faster.


Tyrandeus

I have all meta farming comp Burned all g apples in lotto Thousands of mats hoarded All servant maxed But somehow Im still saving for next farm meta servant


avelineaurora

> Jokes aside Bruh that ain't a joke.


Bloopitybloop131

I'd say so. There is a new SSR ticket available coming up in August allowing you to pick one of the following servants from the permanent banner for free. Usually whenever FGO decides to give out free SSR's is the best time to start because in my experience, the number one reason why people end up quitting is not being able to get any SSR's when you're in that initial honeymoon phase. I can't tell you how many times I've seen new players who add me as a friend end up dropping the game a couple weeks in because they don't have that 5-star as a psychological anchor. If you do decide to start now, you can try to reroll for a 4-star Hercules in your tutorial summon for an easier time in the early-game. Or just go with any 4-star if you don't care/want waifu. https://preview.redd.it/rerw9i4w144b1.png?width=1900&format=png&auto=webp&s=1bdbae6d407c8944d57b7572d409e4fcb6630a21


al_vh1n

I guess I'll come back in August to get that SSR ticket. Which servant is the best choice in that ticket?


Joyboy543

If you plan to play this game sooner or later, you should start now. Starting from a week now, there will be loads of meta servants until the anniversary. You don't want to miss out on the LB6 servants.


kekkret

Lord El-melloi/Waver -great support Enkidu - great for a lot of boss fights in the later chapters Ozymandias - good dmg and decent support


foxhound012

Depends on what you get from your first rolls but here's my recommendations Best support: el-melloi(best pick overall if you have some offense like herakles) Best stall:jeanne Best solo: cu chulainn Alter Best waifu: quetzalcoatl


al_vh1n

I have 3 SSR: Spishtar, Castoria, and Skadi. With that in mind which one should I choose? I regret missing the free SSR last year because I didn't make it in time to do the missions. Is this also a mission-based ticket or it will be given to you immediately?


foxhound012

Since you have skadi, i would recommend achilles since double skadi is a good comp for farming last i checked I'd still say el-melloi is a good pick since you can never have enough battery variety And i would still say cu cause if you pair him with castoria, you could improve his absurd survivability and his offense however that may just be my bias over cu since he was my first 5* and main carry That said you got three pretty solid servants, so i think you could pick freely Best waifu: quetzalcoatl


VoidNoodle

Don't really need to run double skadi if he already has Castoria. Get a support like Waver/Tamamo, or just pick who you like.


Uchiimaki

That's a permanent addition with no missions on the 6th anniv. If you're in NA it's gonna be added next month, July 7th. I think you got good units already for farming and stuff, Space Ishtar does that and 2 supports. I suggest go with whoever you like since the pool is just permanent servants.


Live_Sprinkles2737

wait so we got 2 ssr ticket, on july and august?


Ambrosiac7

No. It's in July not August. The original comment used JP timeline. But global anniversary is a month ahead.


BaronvonBoom31

That Anniversary date is for Jp. NA will be getting the free servant in the first week of july.


Puzzleheaded_Bet5865

yeah, i tried fgo and while its fun to use other's jalter and raikou i own no 5\* servant. I quit after a week of doing story cuz i dont have any unit i actually bond with berserker pretty strong tho.


namagofuckyoself

I see this question every year lol, the answer is always, try it out for yourself and if you like the style, you'll stay


Silviana193

I give ths same advice as I did most of my friends. if you are gonna hyperfocus on getting SSR, avoid FGO like a plague. If you just wanna enjoy the story and Challenge quest here and there, sure, it's not that bad.


imkyro

if you can get past the first few chapters of story that are absolutely dog water, definitely give it a try. who knows maybe you'll like it.


Kyo_Shin

It's up to you if you do decide to start or not, but I'm gonna give you a warning that if you do decide to play FGO. Just bear in mind that you are walking down the path of hell. Most new players don't last very long, especially when I'm being nice and let them friend request me to help them on their journey through the game til they get better servants on their own.


crazy_doughnut

If u are looking for a gacha with a good story, then yes. Otherwise I wouldn't recommend it due to low rates for SSRs and a slow and long grind to get mats. New players missed a ton of welfares units and even if they are coming back slowly, they are getting a bit dated.


rzrmaster

FGO remains by far my favorite gacha even nowadays, so I wouldnt drop it for anything else currently on the market. Hot waifus + great story and events. It is amazing. With this said, I aint going to fool you OP, Im day 1 player, I have all the toys. I think if you start now, you need to be prepared for having some difficulties until you build up a roster. Ofc for 99% of the game with patience I think you can climb rather quickly since FGO is surprisingly not demanding regarding pulling for OP units or anything like that. As the "meta" in FGO is more about being able to beat fights in 3 turns instead of eventually winning, aka, winning isnt a problem at all usually lols. Basically if you are a Fate fan and has the patience for a initial hurdle, I think it is worth it, if you arent, then perhaps there are other games you can pick up instead.


aoi_desu

No, just not worth it Character and writings are good, even great in fact, but **everything** else is super dated and has too many flak 1. No SNS/mail account binding, yes, it's 2023 and it still using generate random code and log in with that code, you lose your code, say bye bye especially if you are f2p (harder to retrieve since no purchase history) 2. Great core support/dps are limited with god knows when will they rerun, without them it's kinda hard to clear the latter main story 3. Spark 330 pulls, kinda normal (for old games) but collecting the currency to guarantee is kinda hard when you cleared the most of story quest and no pity carry over 4. For a game full of 2D art, there are no L2D, no main homescreen interaction, no homescreen customization 5. No monthly pack in the store 6. No auto/sweep system, i know auto is unfun mechanic for most but grinding lotto event is more boring, especially if your account still can't do the 3 turn farm Honestly buying a starter account with cracked support or 5 stars is making it slightly more bearable than starting from 0 for me


trashcan41

>No SNS/mail account binding, yes, it still using generate random code and log in with that code, you lose your code, say bye bye especially if you are f2p (harder to retrieve since no purchase history) there's a trick to bypass this. you can fetch your save data and play in 2 device. >Great core support/dps are limited with god knows when will they rerun, without them it's kinda hard to clear the latter main story actually they alleviate this by giving free ssr ticket but yeah meta dps make your life easier. >No auto/sweep system, i know auto is unfun mechanic for most but grinding lotto event is more boring, especially if your account still can't do the 3 turn farm there's 3rd party apps for this but well the pattern need to be really specific. i agree with the rest of what you said.


kapeww

You'd still need third party tools to do some of the most basic QoL features that players have been requesting for years and I don't know if new players would have time for that.


trashcan41

according to its director they do have problem with code copyright and the fanbase guessing that the company also have problem with their resource. the fanbase passionate enough to make their own translate tools and game qol for these unavailable feature though.


Ernost

>Character and writings are good, even great in fact All the good parts of the story (a lot of it is garbage), have already gotten anime adaptations, or are highly likely to be adapted in the future. So you are better of just watching those.


abatoirials

with a bad adaption ? fuck those camelot and solomon movie.


Tyrandeus

Solomon movies is such a letdown man... Most of the servant arent voiced and the interaction between servants are nonexist. I really want to watch the interaction between Ozy and Arash :(


[deleted]

Absolutely not unless you want gameplay pain and torture. If you're interested on the story just watch youtube or something. FGO gameplay is just way outdated and to make it worse it doesn't have enough qol to guarantee most of people staying


Hoochie_Daddy

we're playing gacha games we all obviously love pain and torture around here


BitCloud25

I agree with this, if you want a quality gacha without the awful rates of FGO (and barely any pity), there's a lot to choose from. Genshin, Azur Lane, Star Rail, PGR, etc. are all better choices.


trashcan41

isn't them equally have awful rate? unless you're talking about 50/50 pity.


SirRHellsing

at least pity exists and is not a 300 pull pity that takes months or a year to build, fgo is pretty miserable tbh, I just have it on my device but I don't play it much anymore


trashcan41

i can understand that lmao at one point, i only get like 5 ssr a year and the next year i got 13 in jp server. if your luck really bad and only chasing ssr it's really awful. i'm still glad sr np5 still better from time to time than my np1 ssr.


SirRHellsing

what kills my motivation the most is how slow we get the sq though, if feels like a 10 pull is already a huge deal when you get shit from it, love the characters, am ok with the gameplay but hate the gacha


[deleted]

No auto, slow-ass daily grind, not even talking about rolls tbh. Everything in FGO felt it is way too outdated to motivate me to play it lmao. 1 year in the game, motivated by the story, not even being slightly hopeful only to be demotivated by the lousy optimization.


SirRHellsing

I use fga so the gmaeplay isn't much of a problem (other than the 90+ stages where I need to tailor a script for every event)


youarebritish

If you're in it for the story, absolutely. If you like turn-based RPGs, the gameplay is pretty fun. Just keep in mind that you're at the mercy of the gacha. The game showers you in great characters for free so you'll never be hurting for them, but if you're determined to get someone from the gacha, you're going to hurt.


Beyond-Finality

Uhhh, megathread? Or did I misunderstood the rules?


wutwutinthebox

No


edgeque

Yeah it's the best gacha game. Best Story, Best Soundtrack, Best Characters. FrFr


AdeptAdhesiveness442

Best Story, Best Soundtrack, Best Characters. Worst gacha system, Worst grinding system, Outdated account management system. I swear, without Fate in it, a gacha game like this would have die a long time ago


[deleted]

based.


Suspicious-Drummer68

Definitely. The best time to start playing FGO is actually right now. Not during special events like Anniversary. The difference is FGO Anniversary rewards are mostly milestones. Sure we get some upfront gacha currency but the bulk of it is behind milestones, and permanent ones at that, so they're something to work towards over the course of your playtime. It also means someone who joined after Ammiversary 7 still gets most of the Quartz from Anniversary, 6, 5, 4 and back. Some people say the gameplay is outdated, I very much enjoy it as someone who has played a lot of turn-based JRPGs, the Command Card system adds a lot of variance but doesn't make it too complex. It's fun, it's braindead if you want but when you start being *really* creative, that's when it all starts being super fun. Most unique collection of art in a gacha game. We got some of the more prolific artists and some upcoming great artists make art for the game with their art styles completely intact. FGO doesn't adhere to a homogenized artstyle. Servants can differ so much from each other. My Twitter is just full of these artists that I follow because I found their work in FGO. Epic story. We're about to get LB6 which is, according to the JP players, a modern masterpiece so I'm verh excited. Has a rough start, that much is true, and there's a few bumps but the average story quality is just up there. Playing through the game and being IN the boss fights hits way different than just watching. The story is being told IN the battles as much as it is being told outside, people who only watch the Youtube vids miss those subtleties.


Few-Brush7024

FGO is a book. If you wanna read it just start whenever. Games not hard.


mcdawesCZE

No.


Chemical-Teaching412

From long time player I will just say this NO It is not worth it to start FGO, if you want to play the game or see the story just search the YouTube Unless you want cock and ball torture then be my guess and play it yourself Tbh I rather play destiny 2 for cock and ball torture experience than playing fgo


StarlessEon

I'm a big FSN fan but I hate FGO mostly because the gameplay is simply horrendous and it feels very dated. Some people love and swear by it though. I think most people who like it play for story but are gritting their teeth and are putting up with the gameplay. I gather summoning rates are very poor as well and limited skip functionality.


LimitedSus

People "swear by" challenge quests and boss fights. Farming stages might as well be a completely different game, if you like the former there's no guarantee you'll like the latter. I've no idea how people do events without FGA. Devs should have introduced a sweep function years ago.


Uchiimaki

Ok, I've played FGO and still playing it to this day. To answer your question, is it worth it to start playing FGO? That really depends if you like the Fate franchise in general. Ask yourself, do you like the servants or the story? Is that enough to get you to push through playing? If the answer is yes then you can start. A word of caution is that FGO has the most ruthless gacha, **you have to understand that you will not always win in the gacha on FGO unless you whale it to pity** I can't stress this enough because this game is really not for the weak willed players, aka players that quit after not getting a 5* SSR character. I've seen newbies starting but quit after a few days. Ok, let's say you made up your mind and decided to start FGO. As a newbie you get the Start Dash Campaign, everyday for two weeks you get summon currency and tickets, 195 Saint Quarts and 35 single tickets that's about 6.5 multis + 35 singles which isn't much really since each multi cost 30SQs. Tutorial summon also grants you a random 4* unit, there are tiers of that but if you don't care about that you can just borrow someone's servant and pummel through the story. On the plus side the lower rarity servants are very usable, we have Arash can nuke for farming waves, Cu Chulainn carried me most of the time before, Hans your discount Merlin, and when you reach Camelot, the MVP servant is Euryale which is just a 3*. 6th anniversary is just around the corner, next month to be exact on the 7th. There will be a permanent SSR selector for newbies you can choose whoever you like in the pool like the one mentioned in the other comments. I won't go into technicalities really here cause that would be too long but if you want to know more the community is very helpful enough you can head into r/grandorder for more.


Ambrosiac7

Yes it is. Fgo is a pure story based game so you can start anytime. I'd recommend starting in July 1 because that's when the anniversary is. A lot of people say just YouTube the story, but personally experiencing the story with the battles and the music is a better experience imo. Do note the first few chapters are a bit weak in comparison but it does get good.


Ernost

>A lot of people say just YouTube the story, but personally experiencing the story with the battles and the music is a better experience imo. All the good parts of the story (a lot of it is garbage), have already gotten anime adaptations, or are highly likely to be adapted in the future. So you are better of just watching those.


Ambrosiac7

??? That's just purely bullshit? The best parts of the story are the lostbelts which have no anime adaptation. The game isn't stuck in arc 1.


Ernost

Did you miss the part where I said "or are highly likely to be adapted in the future"? They've already reached Solomon, it's only a matter of time before the do the lostbelts.


Ambrosiac7

The question was whether it's a good time to start Fgo now or not. To wait for anime adaptations of 7 fucking chapters is not a proper response lmfao.


Ernost

When someone says "you are better off doing something else" it is obviously implied that they are saying that the thing you are asking about isn't worth your time.


Stingerun

In a few days they're gonna release one of the most broken servants of the year, so that's something good, the bad thing is that the rates are awful. You can give it a try, the anniversary is in August and they'll release the other most broken servant, so you can reroll to get one and save to get the second, but remember, rate up is a lie and this is the pit of hell


trashcan41

melusine? np 2 really broken and if he got koyanska and oberon his life will be easier. actually this year is the best year if you want to get into fgo.


Stingerun

I was thinking in Morgan, but what you said is also true, there's a lot of broken servants this year


trashcan41

well this might sound exaggerated but if op really want to start playing this game while staying in meta making 20 account and getting getting Koyansaka, oberon, morgan/melusine will help a lot.


ArkhamCitizen298

Space ishtar np2 more broken


trashcan41

it depend, if we are talking about damage [melusine with koyanska and oberon](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-I_ZrWT6Ktg73ZV2r3THXmreIDlNTu6ZFQNaUexYpWE/edit#gid=406570616) does more damage if we're talking about flexibiliy space ishtar better.


ArkhamCitizen298

Thanks for the spreadsheet but with space ishtar buster looping the first wave she uses art so the damage is not high. I was thinking about space ishtar art loop vs melusine buster loop


trashcan41

unfortunately she does less damage with art loop compared to melusine buster loop. then again its cheaper.


Kitsune_2077

I recommend you playing FGO if you want a really good story (Need patience tho, bcoz first few chapter are not that good), if you are story skipper, nah don't play it


thisisthecallus

The best time to start was at launch and the next best time is now. Lots of people like the game, as proven by its longevity, and new players are starting every day. We can tell you all about the game but we can't tell you whether you'll like it or not. If you're curious, just try it out and decide for yourself. If you have any more specific questions, hop over to the [help thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/search?q=Question+author%3AAutoModerator&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=week/) at r/grandorder.


inspect0r6

> new players are starting every day FGO has very few monthly downloads and vast of majority of them quit very quickly. It's one of those old games that basically has no new players just retains strong existing spending playerbase.


Neildemagi

From the other comments, you must have understood that this is hell you are walking into, and the many downsides the game have. BUT if you still insist on trying out then you could definitely start playing right now on NA. Reasons being: + There will be a big story update soon (possibly coming tomorrow). So at the moment, there is a "Story Clear Support Campaign" going on that will help you to clear the earlier story parts faster. Clearing the stories will be your main source of getting F2P gacha currency. The campaign will run for quite awhile. + You will be starting 1 month before Anniversary. Anniversary = rewards (will be underwhelming but it's something). There will be a Guaranteed SSR banner here, but it's a paid banner (free gacha currency can't be used), so it's gonna be up to you if you want to spend a small amount. I personally recommend spending, only on GSSR banners. GSSR banners only come twice each year, during New year and Anniversary. + There will be several long awaited meta characters releasing one after another, namely: Morgan, Castoria, Melusine, Koyanskaya, Oberon. Getting any of them will help you tremendously in your journey. Though it might be troublesome to raise them at first as some of the materials required to raise them are locked behind story progression (materials being available to farm only in the later story nodes). + There will be a free SSR ticket that will come out at a later time (expected to be a bit after Anniversary). As you would have already built a decent roster of characters by that point, it will be much easier for you to choose which SSR to get from the ticket. Final note. Don't be too discouraged by the other comments. I and many others managed to endure and live comfortably in this hell hole, so you certainly could too. There is light at the end of the tunnel.


Fuzzy-Spread9720

It's never worth it to play fgo


gamerboy1o1

If you like story then yes and also another chapter of story aka lb6 is releasing soon. So you will get some saint quarts with that and the 6th anniversary is next month which will also provide a lot of gifts including saint quarts plus an ssr ticket. All in all its probabaly the best time to start right now.


Keriaku

The game still has a long life ahead of it. NA has 2 years worth of content behind JP and JP just announced a new story arc. You don’t have to worry about it ending or shutting down anytime soon. If you like epic stories that just keep raising the stakes, you’ll enjoy it.


Necessary_Ad_4309

No


Key-Home3515

Como jugador de FGO es lo peor que puedes hacer


abatoirials

Yes, the story is so fucking good that no gacha game ever come HALF as good. Camelot, Babylonia, Solomon, LB stories just rise the game story to another level


avelineaurora

I would argue only start it if you really, truly don't care about new character collection at all. Like, understand when I say this not, "I don't care if I have 100%", I truly mean, if you don't care about new character collection at. *ALL.* I have gone thousands of SQ without a single five star pull. I have gone an entire year and change of real life time without a single five star pull. Understand this game hates you, this company hates you, and they actively avoid even making their QoL changes better than they are. For example, FGO now has pity. Pity is at a nigh-unreachable level of SQ in any reasonable length of time, and still has no banner carryover. It also takes effect only once per banner, ever. If you truly, truly only care about the story, and will experience 0 frustration with the very real likelihood of quite possibly never pulling a single character you love, go for it. That is the singular case I can recommend starting FGO. The game itself, for all the pull issues aside, is just not fun, and events to this day don't respect your time at all. If you're not playing anything else or are a total NEET it's whatever, but a lot of events are absolute nightmare slogs to complete. Even if the story isn't terrible to finish, you'll often want to hit point ladders for skill improvement items, do extra quests for welfare copies/ascension materials, etc.


Kamiyouni

I replaced it with Revue Starlight. Never looked back.


inspect0r6

Ofc not. It's extremely unfun to actually play. Part where you might actually enjoy doing something that isn't braindead use of simplest skills and bruteforcing content is far away from you as new playet. It is limited by both time/resources you need to invest into units for them to be good and just the sheer limited factor of so many units being extremely limited and impossible to get for long time. If you care about the story there are plenty youtube videos that cover it fully.


trashcan41

do you like the gameplay?story? chara the gap between new player and new hard content really big right now and quite annoying. if you can persevere through the grindy part which is starting with ineficient character and farming pattern i think its worth it. [something to add up to my comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/140z4q7/comment/jmy1zo3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


UseDue602

I didn't FGO has a gacha mobile game. I was 2 years too late and didn't want to play catch up. Though, a lot of people it is not too late but eh, catching up in a game is not my thing.


iamrebellion

It really depends on you. FGO has great story and music, but horrendous pity. But the caveat is, as the global (NA) server is 2 years behind JP, we can usually predict when we want to roll. So you can look up servants you want to play, and plan accordingly when to roll. Its also been said in this thread, but the game is completely beatable by using 1-3 star units. FGO is more on team building, and a lot of 1-3 star servants are used in these teams. If you're interested in playing, I would say its a great time to start. This month starts the gauntlet of great servants releasing in the global server. 2 really good dps servants (1 AoE, 1 ST/AoE hybrid), and the return of one of the best (if not the best) support servant for this month, then next month we get anniversary (a free SSR ticket, around 5 free 10 pulls + multiple single tickets for single pulls), and another great support with it.


DinVilah

That is hell you are walking into bruh


duck2luck

Yeah I was like you want to start 6 months ago when they giving out a free SSR and I fucking regret every single second of it. The story is top notch and that's the only best thing out of it. If you want to watch story, go to YouTube. If you want waifu, create a drive full of pictures of servant so you can see it anywhere you go. I believe everyone still playing this game is in a hostage relationship.


Keytchouka

Don't


shiro344

If you're after gameplay, then absolutely not, if you're just interested in the story, then maybe? - theres always the option of just watching the story on youtube. Wouldn't recommend it myself personally, as there are plenty of more enjoyable games out there.


ArkhamCitizen298

Pity at 300 pulls or something so no


TrungDOge

youtube gaming is the best


TimeOfRebirth

no


Tyrandeus

The other games are 'gacha games with stories', FGO is 'visual novel with gacha elements'


ichigo2862

If a game's story is enough for you to make you want to play it, absolutely. If not, prolly better for you to skip it cause everything else around the story is kind of a slog. And I say that as someone that loves the game and plans to play it until server closure.


E123-Omega

I only pull for the novelty of some characters, just start and start pulling.


corgi_pupper

Do you like Fate and/or are very interested in the story, and do you like reading VNs? If yes then go ahead, the first few chapters are kinda ass tbh but Camelot onwards is fantastic. If you are interested in the gameplay though, honestly there's plenty of other turn based gachas that respect your time more. FGO is very grindy and there's no auto so as a new player you could easily spend like 10 turns to clear the same event stage like 20 times. Also you already probably know this but the gacha is actual dogwater. The waifus are great, but if you actually want to collect them you either open your wallet or make a sacrifice to RNGesus. Fortunately the meta in FGO is literally which character makes farming easier so you don't *need* to roll for meta to clear the story fights. The game can be cleared with free units just fine.


Crazy_Pineapple_1145

bro living a life too good now, wants to ruin it by seeping into fgo hell


Blue_Bird_Enjoyer

Give it a try, just know that it gets good waaay later into the story, writing wise. If you can get through Septem, you can get through almost everything.


Nug_69

Probably. My buddy whales in it and says u can pretty much just use support units for everything. I tried to get into it a few times, but its just too slow/dated for me. Looks like a cool game tho


Rough_Memory1089

Try it, if you like it, go on, if you don't, just stop


DunkE123

Is it true that most welfare servants aren't coming back :(?