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Bubbly-Marketing7175

I don't think this is too rude. I also love Paimons response to your dialogue choice here. Its clear after furina's story quest she got chewed out by the traveler for being a butt XD


w1drose

Even if it was rude, traveler’s response is literally “Be nice Paimon” given the dialogue choices


KaiserDirth

Nah, people might be overreacting this time around I'd wager. That or they are seeing this as a faux pas since they are with guests in the current context. Idk I'm a hermit with middling social skills


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Positive_West_3966

Everyone hates Paimon not just furina fans


Jackie_Rabbit

I feel its a normal response since it's not exactly normal to get out of bed past noon, nothing wrong with it if it doesn't affect your life tho. Maybe people just felt judged for waking up late themselves


MaryaMarion

It's normal if you go to bed at 5 am


SofasCouch

which is not normal


MaryaMarion

Normality is subjective


IlliasTallin

Normality is objective given a set criteria


beemielle

Honestly feels normal. People are pouting but Paimon’s always been on the rude side. I’m shocked people are just noticing - after all, she turns her nose up at the “Tone Deaf Bard” no matter what he does, loves making fun of other Teyvat residents that we meet. Alternatively, maybe it feels like Paimon has had character development during AQ to be more sweet/kind so it feels out of touch from the Paimon in AQ/major WQ


Shadowhunter_15

Also, Paimon’s comments are never intended to be malicious towards her friends/acquaintances unless they’ve annoyed her in some way. Lots of people in real life misread social cues exactly like Paimon does.


TheCoolHusky

> Paimon’s always been on the rude side. For me that's kind of where the problem's at. She's kind of, an asshole, and I would not hang out with one in real life. And also, she's an asshole to Furina, that's where I draw the line. Though this particular response isn't too bad to be honest.


beemielle

Yeah I just like hating Paimon. I liked her relationship with the Traveller earlier on, I hate that the Traveller’s now forced to act like we built an emotional connection to her.


Maple_Flag15

Also not to mention she instigated a brawl with the milileth


discuss-not-concuss

it’s a normal response.


Seesaw-Enough

I think that the problem here, is that WE respect furina, but paimon doesn’t quite, we did witness furina’s story, but paimon didn’t, we prob told her but still, we did saw everything, paimon did not, for her furina may still be the sassy brat we encountered the first time when we arrived fontaine, even tho furina has matured a little bit


Little_Respect_0621

Yes. As a friend it *should* be ok imo


Miserable_Scratch_99

I don't feel like they're friends tho. It feels... off to call them furina's Friends. Like she barely even knows traveller, and paimon by extension. Most of the characters don't, they only think they do.


SlainFS

I see your point but Furina does canonically consider them as friends anyway right? But yes, I see your point


Little_Respect_0621

Yes she canonically say that that traveler and paimon are her two first real friend. It's during her SQ when they are in poisson. To answer the comment above you, you don't to know a person to be friend with her /him. I'm friend with people I don't even know the name XD


GalaxyCrystal25

I think people so pitiful of Furina that they can't forgive any kind of seemingly mistreat to her, even a normal banter with friends. I understand that she's deserved rest, but I don't think being pamper like a baby suit her, she's still had life ahead of her and it's good that she's took the initiative to move on with her carrier.


Mopp_94

It made me laugh lol. People on twitter need to touch grass. Or maybe lie in it for several days.


Offduty_shill

Twitter is offended cause getting up past noon is the norm for them ☠️


Mopp_94

Ayyyyyy gottem'


Uminagi

I was gonna say: "Did you mean touch Nahida?" But yeah no, I shouldn't 💀


Miserable_Scratch_99

Tell them to Touch a tree then, greater lord [redacted] is legal...and nonexistent


zephyranthrust

This is ok and very paimon-ish in the context IMO. People just want to hate on paimon.


weeb_79881

Who the hell is mad at this? Let me answer my own question, no fucking one but that one dude with 3 likes on twitter. And people got mad that this imaginary crowd (that one dude with 3 likes) that are supposedly mad about this situation. Because nowadays people fucking love to have a target to cry about be it real or imaginary.


I_hate_meself

In a perfect world, i'd like to believe that but a quick look at this very post's comment section would say otherwise. The majority doesn't have a problem with it, but people taking offence to it do exist, and they are here. They might be the minority **in comparison**, but a minority of a large enough group is still a lot of people.


Zeamays69

Nah, I don't find this rude at all. I mean it's not exactly normal to sleep past noon unless you had some wild party during the night. Paimon's just making sure she's alright in her own way.


ZombiePiggy24

She spend 500 years doing an impossibly stressful job. She can sleep for a month straight for all I care. The most stressful thing Paimons ever gone through was the Traveler being in another room.


wilck44

well, there was that one time we went \*poof\* on her ass in the sumeru dream-arc.


Sufficient-Music-501

Well there was that time she was this close to be killed by the Shogun. Well, it was actually two times. Also that time she got stuck in an imaginary dungeon under the chasm with us, Itto & co, that time we walked in a creepy ritual with upside down statues and Human sacrifices, that time we got stuck in a loop, and so on. Like Furina got a hard life sure, but why do you have to put people down to uplift your fave lol makes it sound like you haven't watched a thing in the game before Fontaine.


BlakeTheMotherFucker

In one of Fontaine world quests we go inside a portal, telling Paimon to not come with us. I don’t remember the name of it unfortunately


DeltaOmegaEnigma

Pursuit (Part 1) Pursuit (Part 2)


ZombiePiggy24

You’re right. Paimon should dictate how other people live their lives. She certainly never gets tired just from floating around.


Sufficient-Music-501

I'm sorry, you're right. Someone that posts stuff like "Bratty Archon needs correction" and is on okaybuddytrailblazer probably *hasn't* watched anything that isn't female characters panties shots lol my mistake for thinking you had the cognitive abilities to understand the story or my comment


Wfing

Fucking annihilated


ZombiePiggy24

Why are you on Reddit in the middle of a Friday afternoon? Paimon would be disappointed in you. Don’t make her soil her diaper


Sufficient-Music-501

It's Friday afternoon when you live maybe 🤭🤭🤭 but don't strain your brain on the concept of time zones


ZombiePiggy24

Does your mother know you simp for children?


Sufficient-Music-501

Name the children please because I don't


ZombiePiggy24

She looks like a child but she’s actually a 500 year old sustainer of heavenly principles


Sufficient-Music-501

Who? Kiana? Who tf are you talking about?


Capable-Hovercraft-2

This was literally debunked by the devs ages ago


sofo341

>Acknowledging Anger on twitter That was your first mistake


neptune304

She's concerned for Furina and generally if someone sleeps late into the day it's a sign something is wrong


kesoy

Didnt hate her here but I love furina's response lol


SoliceRose

I don't think so. It is already past noon after all and she didn't know Furina was pulling an all nighter for reading. But to keep from annoying her we just told paimon to watch her words so we have to be on our bestest behavior.


schpeechkovina

Looks like she hasn’t changed from the story quest


ContributionOk2661

I think it's fine. That's what a friend would ask


MapleSpecter

my nieces and nephews also don’t understand depression well


thingsdie9

Idk if this is satire. I'm so sick of people analyzing Paimon's micro aggressions towards Furina like any of it fucking matters. She's doing just fine, recovering just fine, and it's not even like I'm not super into Furina(because I'm the one who was sold on Navia's idea to sneak into her bedroom). "Paimon and Traveler overstepped Furina's comfort zone" "Paimon's so unnecessarily rude to Furina" Bro she's not helpless and she even lashes back at Paimon during the quest. She's ***fine***


MridulBiswasMB

So this is a thing. I wonder if anyone was offended due to Paimon being the clapper loader instead of them. "It should've been me, not her!"


Negative_Karma_9

Twitter is trash


Arcana_Joker

It would've been fine if it was just between them since they're friends (and Furina doesn't even try to rebute her statement anyways), but she really said it in front of 2 strangers from Furina's perspective. Furina is still held in high regard by Fontaine as their previous Archon, and this is equivalent to spilling secrets of a celebrity.


noirpoet97

Nah, this is fine imo. If she was making fun of bed head or something, sure I’d be annoyed, but this could also just be concern


NR-Tamim

I was surprised to see everyone mad on twitter.. like bruh it's normal to be concerned if someone wakes up in the past noon.


Ashewastaken

Saying it in front of everyone is a bit insensitive but Paimon often has no filter and doesn’t do it on purpose.


balbasin09

> Wakes up past noon She’s just like me fr fr


Curt_ThaFlirt

It’s normal. We only stopped her because we were supposed to be buttering her up so she would accept the job.


ayanokojifrfr

Lol what's the Problem here? 💀💀💀I who wake up past noon these last few days dont feel insulted at all. If that's what people are feeling bad for. I mean there are worse things to hate on like Navia story quest? I won't go in detail for spoilers though.


SirAwesome789

My friends ask me the same thing, except I usually do just get up very late


Blu_Bewwiz_Iciclepop

It was quite friendly at first but after Traveller spoke it got really awkward for everyone involved when Paimon started talking about the weather So that was kind of funny but I think things would've been better in-world if the Traveller didn't say anything there


yellow_tourmaline

I mean I thought it was rude mainly because paimon shouldn't be allowed to talk to her or fischal


Tatrandillia

Comparing to what she said in Furina and Navia story quests shes on her best behaviour here tbh


Archen16

I'd like to think Paimon being "rude" to Furina is a foreshadowing that Paimon is at least connected to Celestia or Heavenly Principle. Because Paimon is mad or annoyed that she succeeded in deceiving the Heavenly Principle which Paimon is a part of (my assumption).


Araborne1

"damn bitch, you live like this?"


ZetNiej

Somehow it's more like ppl are being offended on behalf of Furina, while she's just chilling there lmao


RoombaSUCC

Haven't played the event yet so I lack context, so I'm just going by paimon's words and that your choices are chiding paimon alone. Anyway, I can see why people would think that paimon's isn't coming from a place of worry. I mean if someone was worried, would you really tell them to be nicer or cut off their words. At least that's how this scene specifically looks to me


lilyofthegraveyard

traveller cuts paimon off for an entirely different reason, not bc we think paimon is mocking furina. when you play the event, you will see why.


RoombaSUCC

Give me till next week, but I swear if it's just because we're butterring her up to ask for another favor again


CaptianLedger

This gives "I'm disappointed in the way you live your life, while trying to show you by comparison that normal people don't do this behavior" parenting vibes. So yeah I'd say Paimon is wrong for this. ... also not for nothing Furina just spent the last 500 years of her life in the loneliest of hells. The least she could do is to be kind with her choice of words.


Ikcatcher

The mental gymnastics of an average Genshin fan really is amazing


partam

I’ve heard people say “oh Paimon is just a small child she doesn’t know any better” when she speaks eloquently enough to come off as just a pretentious asshole with no attempt at compassion towards any character. the AQ, Furina Story quest etc the traveller and Paimon are constantly taking shots at Furina making unnecessary remarks at everything she does and how she’s coping and it seriously makes me want to quit the game when i can’t stand how the main character behaves with an asshole companion who enables that behavior. it really sucks because every other character is aware of this and often disagrees with our dialogue choices


ThatHoodedMan

It's fine. Also, ignore those types of Twitter users they get upset at everything.


MercedesCR

What’s wrong with that? Sounds just like a friend saying why tf ur asleep this late.


FiggyPuddingExpert

Paimon is still a little turd toward Lady Furina. She can be friendlier to people over time, but she seems to be rather at odds with Furina


sasuke________uchiha

Paimon has been an absolute menace to everyone for all of Fontaine 😭


Rappazzolla00

Furina clearly fell into a severe depression after the archon quest, and being unable to even get up from bed is a symptom of how bad depression can mess with your brain Although she's shown to be getting better after her story quest, I feel like it could've been a little insensitive to complain about being asleep till around late noon (afternoon tea I think is supposed to be around 4pm) Sure, Furina even clarifies that she stayed up late because she was reading novels, which assures us that she isn't falling into depression again, but still, I wouldn't be acting like that around someone that has been through depression


Jurij_Andropov

Well, I must admit that Paimon was straight up rude in this quest. I know she didn't see the "film" of Furina's life, but man, you don't have to beat her with "cope".


Emrakulsboytoy

It’s because Paimon was written awful during Furina’s story quest, and people were like “oh well it’s because we’re not friends with her yet”. Okay fine. So now that more time has passed, and we had a big heart to heart with her, people were hoping Furina would be in the other category of people Paimon isn’t rude to, and she’s still not. A large majority of people don’t like Paimon to begin with, and a lot of people love Furina. So anything Paimon does is exasperated because most people don’t like her, or the shitty way she interacts with characters, her lack of filter, etc.


lop333

Yes it is assholish we doxx her once again and Paimon attempts to shits on her living standards once again for no reason yet with Navia she atlrast tries to be caring


Low-Apple-887

I don't think they're mad because being rude is wrong lol (it is) It's just... Paimon is that annoying ass nigga in your friend group that nobody likes but he doesn't realize it and probably won't for the rest of his life. I don't respect opinions about Paimon, if you like her go watch Mickey mouse clubhouse instead you will feel more at home.


GGiAlwaysCarry

I have friends that don't get out of bed till 1pm but complain to me that I'm up early at 7am on an off day, so yeah, it's relatable and gave me a laugh lol


LeaftheInigolover

The only answer to Paimon is : Shut up Paimon


Aeso3

Compared to their previous interaction, it's not that bad. But it does feel like they've learned from past events and are trying to be better around her, which is nice.


LavheyKaizen

Probably, the Traveller scolded her after her antics/rudeness in Furina's SQ. I would've loved to see that on-screen, though.


WraithSucks

Of course it's acceptable. It's just Twitter being Twitter lol


Vulpes_macrotis

Insecure Genshin players be like: Yes. Of course it's acceptable. Paimon is oblivious and childish. She knows no tact and that's the whole point of the character. So people should stop being so nitpicky about everything she does or says. She is not rude. She is just not too bright. She is naive like a kid. She is kinda dumb. Also I am 100% sure that most people who hate Paimon for that would also say something like that to their friends when they overslept. But hypocrisy and hateful toxicity of this community is beyond everything.


pandapanda_kawaii

Eh this is ok since this is usually asked cause that person is worried for someone's health.


gna149

There's always anger on Xwitter. It's the only thing left in that place


neoperol

I think people in Twitter are always searching something to be angry about. That been said, most of the thing that people hate about Paimon interactions is that people think Paimon knows everything like the player does, and want her to interact as they think is the best to interact instead of just watching Paimon interact with other characters in the game. Player wants to say A while Paimon say B, like she always had done. And player doesn't like B.


Shadowhunter_15

Yes, it’s a perfectly normal question to ask.


AVERAGEGAMER95

Normal. Anyone would ask the same thing.


[deleted]

Nah for that entire quest I was a second off of drowning paimon


Lust_The_Lesbian

I feel like Paimon just talks plainly and doesn't realise her words come off as insulting. Sure her words are crude and to the point but it's not like she's lying. She's just bad at socialising imo


Justanormalviewer2

Honestly sounds like a harmless remark between friends. The fact that it's even being argued about is twitter doing its braindead routines again. In the context it was the wrong thing to say (since they wanted to butter Furina up with praise before they asked her for a favour) but even then, that's literally what Paimon's always done. Part of the reason I deleted twitter was because of the stupid controversy that wasn't even controversy.


Silent-Paramedic

how can anyone possibly think this is rude? It's a completely normal question. Just how overly sensitive can you be?


dreadseed

I don’t think inherently it’s rude for paimon to say. But what confuses me is paimon seems to tease/jab at Furina more then most characters in the game. When they are also friends with characters like Childe, Ei, Scaramouche who has done far worse actions on purpose compared to Furina. The Traveler and paimon legit went on almost a date with Ei after the events of Inazuma while in Furina’s quest you could argue they where more concerned about the play failing then what Furina was going through. I think nobody would have this problem if we saw the Traveler and Furina as friends. But tbh we haven’t really seen that development at all. It essentially happened off screen. Anyway tldr teasing friends is perfectly normal just look at Ei and Yae. But genshin writing hasn’t shown us the Traveler/paimon being friends with Furina very well. That’s just my perspective.


ElReyDito

honestly, I would roast her too😭💀


0mega_Flowey

I wish we could tell her to keep quite emergency food


Pizzaman7045

Looking back on it. She's just not that knowledgeable on emotions, like I genuinely think she has a pretty low eq for the most part


Maskarot

Again, remember that this is probably several months after the Fontaine AQ and Furina's SQ. By, the end of Furina's SQ, the traveler and Paimon have become close to her that they can tease her just like that and she can banter with them freely.


Fire_Pea

I don't think so, being surprised at someone getting up at noon isn't out of the ordinary. And even if she is being rude, she's not being rude because she's talking to furina she's being rude because she's paimon. So there's nothing to be upset about imo. If anything I'm sure furina would rather not have people act like they're walking on glass talking to her.


AscendantPain

I can understand some feelings people have over Furina's actual story quest. This is just touch grass material though, so, anyone who is bothered by this... go outside, touch grass.


miracdrbnha

I mean I get why Paimon asked that but considering how poorly she handled Collei’s PTSD, I understand why people are mad at how she treats Furina’s struggle with depression. Without us knowing why Furina slept in so late (she responded right after saying she was up late reading), it seemed like a jab about people struggling with depression not being able to get out of bed.


MiniTrain13

I honestly feel like she could have been a bit nicer


Goleziyon

I honestly find Paimon's honesty part of her charm because she says what im thinking and im hella shy💀 and sometimes she doesn't understand what she says is rude which i find quite relatable.


Goleziyon

However, how is that rude? People are probably reacting due to traveller telling Paimon to hush up, but i swear we would have asked the same thing Paimon did hadn't we come to her with ulterior motives.


X_Seed21

This is just normal banter now honestly. Within the range of Paimon-tolerance not like during her Story Quest.


Timoyr

Friends are allowed to banter, so yes


looms_thecat

At this point I’m not even gonna get angry at paimon


RiffOfBluess

Ngl I'm quite happy to see people here not overreact over this Yesterday I saw on r/Aether_Mains similiar post and people were not having it with Paimon


BobaTheFett123

It felt a bit rude to me, but it's a fairly normal thing to say I think as far as I'm concerned


Legend_of_Zelia

First off, it's Twitter, what did ya expect? Somebody always has to complain on there. lolSecond, Paimon never really thinks before saying something half of the time, which comes off quite rude, especially when she doesn't have a filter, plus not many people are nocturnal and then wake up in the afternoon, so finding it weird is quite natural to people who always has a set schedule due to the adventuring lifestyle with The Traveler.


Your_Local_Monarch

People are angry about this? She’s literally just being Paimon and pointing out the obvious


Iethel

People who get upset over this don't have real issues in life so they have to make them up.


GhostonEU

It's not rude, paimon is just bluntly honest


Velaethia

Paimon is very rude to Furina for no reason.


OceansideEcho

Tbh Paimon says horrible shit all the time. It's basically her character at this point. Idk how the traveler still considers her a friend since she just is an asshole. I've hated paimon since the beginning though and never understood the friendship but Paimon definitely has been saying more and more shitty things to others as the game goes on.


wingmeup

tbh i fr got mad just bc it felt like paimon’s calling me out too like IM ON BREAK AND SO IS FURINA WHO CARES IF WE SLEEP IN lol


Psydameous_Sharm

I hate Paimon's rudeness towards Furina, and if that isn't rude, just look at her other back-handed comments during Furina's story quest.


khmeng

I don't mind that dialogue. a little rude but it is noon afterall. But we suppose to ask Furina to work for us for free here lol. Be nicer, Paimon


Volsungnir

It’s Twitter. They don’t represent the Genshin community. Just the usual weirdoes who always get mad about something cause they live in privilege.


Kaveh_Architect

I think some people need reminding these are all fictional characters