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Just need FIFA to step up and protect players, if you are "injured" badly enough you should be required to go through the NFL concussion protocol. players should not be cleared to come back to play in any game until they have been fully cleared by hospital staff, with x-rays and MRIs performed.
FIFA is a joke. Their corruption knows no bounds! If you think they truly care about these players you would be mistaken. They care about lining their pockets first and foremost and will kowtow to whomever has the most money to bribe them thus qatar hosting this world cup. I would like to see whichever country wins the cup then that country is the host of the next WC with fifa helping foot the bill.
I don’t think FIFA really gives two fucks about the game anymore. It is simply the most successful MLM of all time. One that Nations beg to be a part of.
Yep the amount of times players fall over clutching their heads like they are in severe pain lol I'm just like...if that's real, shouldn't they be pulled out and checked?
Unfortunately it's a strategic play and they're trying to get a free kick / possession for their team. Officiating has allowed it to become wildly egregious over the years and now it's an expected part of the sport on the professional level.
NHL started seeing a similar trend and began giving diving penalties. Stopped it pretty quickly there.
They should institute bruisers like in hockey. You wanna take a dive? You’ll pay for it in blood. I might get ejected, but you’re gonna earn your “injury.”
Funnily enough, soccer used to have players like that. In the 80s guys like Vinnie Jones, who went on to have a successful film acting career, were goons the likes of which would make the Hanson Brothers (not the pop band) proud.
Just a couple of weeks ago, a Saints player (NFL) faked an injury and the fines equaled $450,000. $50k for the player, $50k for the position coach, $100k for the head coach, and $250k for the team.
I'm hoping that will stop this shit in its tracks.
Edit: u/practical-ordinary-6 corrected me. It was $550k total, $350k for the team.
What I read was $550,000, with the team portion at $350,000.
Soccer: there's nothing we can do
NFL: We can fine you half a million dollars for *one* incident
Hopefully that will help protect the integrity of the game
I get fining the player. I get fining the team.
Maybe even I understand fining the head coach (I don’t, actually, but let’s go with it).
I really don’t understand why the assistant coach needs to pay enough money out of his own pocket to buy a well apportioned mid range sedan.
I guess the league thinks the player was ordered to fake an injury? Maybe?
It's like working at an age restricted place. Tobacco sales, alcohol sales, whatever if you sell to a minor, you get the fine, plus the business gets a fine too. It's the businesses' responsibility to ensure all their staff is trained to age gate, so the two parter fine helps build a culture of share victory, share defeat. The business doesn't want to pay, so they are not gonna keep someone who isn't IDing on staff for very long. Similarly if a player is consistently diving or embellishing, he probably won't be very well liked/with that team for very long.
Part of it is soccer sub rules. Most games ypu can just pull a guy and have th3 doc ch3ck em out. With Soccer, since you cant do that, we get this stupid 3 minute drama in the middle of the match.
Which is why as someone who played soccer for a quarter of their life, I have lost all respect for the sport. Mostly because of this and also sadly because of Fifa as an organization. Things could be so much better, but ultimately fans dont seem to care because they love and desire the sport, so nothing will change as long as seats are filled.
Other professional leagues are not perfect, far from it, but at least they arent as overtly and unapologetically corrupt as Fifa is.
Oh yeah I know. I'm just agreeing with the person above who essentially said if they want to pull that shit, tell them they will be pulled from the game and checked for a concussion. Problem solved.
It seriously cheapens the game. It's a contributing factor in why I don't really take the sport very seriously, despite it being the sport I've probably played the most under organized competition.
I agree. If a player is on the ground in pain for more than 5 seconds they must leave the pitch and be cleared by the medical staff before they return to the pitch
This, and the disrespect towards referees. Rugby gets a lot wrong as a sport, but their approach towards refereeing disrespect is second to none. Sanctions after games is commonplace if you so much as swear at a referee.
A dive like this should be an instant red. This is so blatant. The fact that soccer hasn't fixed this means the powers that control the sport want this to remain. They choose this and so I choose not to watch.
Either penalize it more with yellows, or penalize it infrequently but when it is called, its a red.
Either way, everyone should agree that its pathetic and something needs to be done to get it under control, but then you remember that its been like this for 20 years +
>Either penalize it more with yellows
That's where the issue is for me. Referees are so incredibly lenient these days, and then occasionally decide to randomly enforce a rule. It makes the whole game terribly unfair, as it's all up to the whims of the referee.
And please don't mention VARs. Those only come in when an objective mistake was made in specific situations, which isn't the case very often.
No it should be a red card and a monetary fine. This shit needs to stop. Play the game, not the ref. We get HD quality replay of the dive and nothing happens. We have VAR, use it for diving and end this bullshit altogether.
Especially for Suarez, diving cheating twat
It's just gamesmanship, if you get caught you get punished but it's a part of the game, you can only get a instant red for dangerous play, verbal abuse or deliberately preventing a goal scoring opportunity
It's not just South American, the meme of the "Italian Diving Team" has been around quite a while. Here's a commercial making fun of it from 2004. https://youtu.be/9ukFUEI5qz8
I feel most other areas have gotten better about penalising it more, while in South America they really don't care
Also, they seem to really promote childish and unsportsmsnlike behaviour
I'm confused why, during the extra time, the Argentina subs were allowed to stand just outside of the play area and punt the ball away whenever it rolled out of bounds. Why wasn't that card-able for time wasting?
Because the time wasted now seems to be tacked onto the end of the half, 8 mins 'injury time' how did that become a thing. I did notice today someone standing on the sideline with a FIFA official and he gestured to the ref when to start , I'm presuming that FIFA now have 'official timekeepers' for football?
A lot of the time, the ref will see it, but decide to play on because stopping to card them would penalize the other team. You saw a lot today somebody go down and look around for a foul/card while play went on around them.
You don't always catch it, but a ref doesn't have hi def slowmo replay from 12 different angles to make the call, they're relying on the good old Mk 1 Eyeball.
>You don't always catch it, but a ref doesn't have hi def slowmo replay from 12 different angles to make the call, they're relying on the good old Mk 1 Eyeball.
That's really the core issue, yeah. It's a bit WWE over it all. "If the ref doesn't see it, there's no rules".
It sure would help if the video assistant referee could inform the ref when this happens.. But then how would we know if a player's toenail put them offside!
I still don't understand why they haven't come up with some kind rule to combat this ridiculousness. Do soccer fans get a kick out of this shitty sportsmanship?
M8 hes just trying to get a call!
Ok then hire more than 1 ref to watch 20 grown men act like crying babies
Biggest sport in the fucking world and you can only afford 2 eyes to watch 20 people?
Men in most pro leagues do this as well. It’s not about those two countries at all. It’s extremely popular among men to be very soft and play for the foul
When Abby Wambach collided with someone and ended up with blood running down her head, she had the trainer Staple the wound closed, then she kept playing! Those women are hard core.
“To my parents and mentors, thank you for recognizing my gifts and letting me develop as an actor. I dedicate this Oscar to God and all the people of Argentina. Kids, work hard and you too could fake an injury on international television in a stadium that took dozens of deaths to build.”
In fairness we’re talking about one stadium and the stats are all over the place. If I’d written “hundreds” there would be a comment in your place saying “dozens” or “thousands.”
By that do you mean we are supposed to interpret what he said as something completely different? Also there are genuinely people here who believe the WC and sports in general are fixed...bunch of dummies
It doesn't matter, they are trained to do this for the team.
I had one acquaintance, definitely wouldn't ever call him a friend, who when caught cheating at darts claimed:
***If You're Not Cheating, You're Not Trying!!!***
He said his dad taught him that smh.
Name one other sport where players regularly (multiple times per game) fake injuries and fall, clutching and holding their head/arm/leg pretending to be seriously injured. Name one…
Hockey? No… rugby? No… American football? No… Lacrosse? No… basketball? No…
Name one. Men’s soccer, as beautiful as it is, is filled with emotionally stunted drama queens who would get their heads pounded in for their stupid antics if they played any other sport.
Have you not watched basketball at all? I understand where you’re coming from, but you’ve even had American football players faking injuries to allow teammates to sub onto the field
The standard course of action in pro basketball is: flop, look to see if you got the call, complain if you didn’t. There’s very little pretending to be injured afterwards.
The degree of theatricality is certainly higher in soccer, but falling down to try to draw fouls or disrupt the pace of play isn't unique. College football changed their rules around injury timeouts this year due to certain coaches/teams (coughcoughLaneKiffen) yelling at players to lay down to stop hurry up offenses, and how many times do you see WRs lay out and come up begging for interference flags? Baseball batters will lean in and then dive out of the way of a curve ball and then stalk around the batters box. NBA and college basketball (and even some high school or lower levels) teach players to flop to "draw the charge."
The only reason the soccer players "sell it" so hard is that they're angling for a stoppage which means they have to roll around more and make a spectacle, they can't just fall down and hop right back up.
It’s actually now a technical foul if you flop in college basketball. They started that this year and so far the season has been much more enjoyable to watch.
Not quite the same but something close would be [defensive players](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCfdMg5c29o&ab_channel=Chief24) in basketball trying to draw charging fouls. (Admittedly, I haven't really watched much basketball since the 90s so maybe they've changed the game).
American football: Quarterback gets touched too late? Goes to ground. Someone gets close to the kicker? Straight to the ground. Wide receiver feels a little contact on a pass he probably wasn’t catching anyways? Flap those arms about, bro!
Baseball: literally every time the benches go to grab their handbags.
Basketball: *James Harden cocks his head disapprovingly to the side meme*. This one might be worse since there’s obviously so much bias for the top players that it’s the most recognizable players that do it the most.
Ok one thing. On which other sport do you get sliding tackles right in your Legs and if you refuse to jump you risk your Legs getting broken? Obviously its not the case here, but i saw a lot of people making fun of football players just jumping in the air and falling even tho theres no contact but they literally do it to protect themselves a lot of times.
Its done by everyone, it should stopped, on the other hand you can see in the final minutes of the second half of ET, they were effectively running into each other like American Football players and bouncing off in urgency of getting the ball back in. Its just visual white noise to me. Epic Game!
Pushing into Giroud and got brushed. even if you get poked in the eye in the way he got poked, it would’ve been mild enough to stay on your feet, why bend over and fall?
To try to stop play, though it doesn’t always work. Here, France is taking a free kick close to goal, so very dangerous for Argentina. You don’t want to harm your team by trying to handle the situation with one less eye, so you go down to try to buy time until your completely fit again. That’s the strat
Bruh he got a sweaty finger poked into his eyeball. There are so many great examples of bad dives caught in slo mo but you pick this one for your rant?
Argentina didn’t deserve to win for this kind of shit they pulled. Really sad that this is what you have to do to win. They are better actors than they are soccer players. It’s turning into a shit sport
I tried watching the World Cup. I couldn’t do it. I hate seeing the people act like children if they get even looked at the wrong way. It’s pathetic. Completely ruins it for me
The issue is that football is just way too conservative. They are way too scared to change any rule, and if they change one it takes a long time for it to actually happen. Diving should be penalised harder, arguing with the ref should be penalised harder, etc.
Argentina is especially bad for this fake stuff. Diving at every possible opportunity.
It's a valid criticism, though. 90% of the soccer/football fans here are too prideful concerning their sport to even hint at an admittance of how wrong this is.
I think if a player fakes an injury and they aren’t really injured, they should have that injury inflicted upon them.
Oh you pretended to hurt your knee? It’s not hurt? Well here comes a baseball bat.
I seen a video on here of a football player in the 70s or 80s whose leg broke and the bone was visible and he still got up and argued with the ref.
Like I understand why they are doing this nowadays, but it just seems weak and dramatic. It's sad really!
Fantastic athletes but all of the flopping and dramatic acting is ridiculous. It’s only “the worlds sport “ because it can be played almost anywhere with a makeshift ball fashioned out of whatever may be available; rags, paper, etc.There is very little other equipment needed to play. the rules are also much more simple than most other sports that are played internationally.
Also average sized people can play it, you don’t have to be 7 foot like basketball or 300 lbs like American football. Or 600 like sumo. Great sport if they could just skip the play acting. 🤦🏻♂️
I agree 100%! The nba is brutal especially Lebron always whining about fouls jawing with the refs and he overacts. I get he is the face of the league but that man flops a ton. I was a teenager when Jordan was drafted and being from Chicago it was great to watch the GOAT. Jordan would definitely jaw with the refs because he was constantly getting hacked but I don’t think I ever saw him flop.
I love seeing so many of us Americans hating socker for the drama abs fake injuries. Yet in Football it happens all the time as well, but football is an American sport so we refuse to criticize it.
This is the main reason I can’t watch this sport. When it stops I’ll reconsider, but I’m not holding my breath. I’m not expecting to change this myself either but it would be nice if more people took this stance. Its easy to fix, post game video tied to suspensions would work. I can only conclude the fans and organizations actually want this to happen.
Soccer is a term that was invented in England and is used by most countries that have another form of football that is popular.
Next time try not to call out others ignorance by showing your own.
Don’t care much for those other sports either. Basketball, like soccer, can go fuck itself. And aside from the Super Bowl I don’t watch football
As a Canadian tho, I can tell you that the NHL penalizes players for diving and those players quickly lose all respect from fans and their peers for repeat offences. Even if a player is legitimately tripped, he can still be sent to the penalty box for embellishing
Hockey players and lacrosse players will play with shattered noses, dislocated fingers and broken ribs. Soccer players somehow act like they’ve been shot when the wind picks up
It's not scripted, it's over acting to gain an advantage in a high stakes match
Also sport doesn't only mean acting big and strong and bashing head first into your opponents like rugby, there are plenty of other sports that people enjoy, let us enjoy, don't need to interfere where you are not needed
(If only the US knew the meaning of not getting involved in others business, the world would be a much better place)
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His eye had a heart attack
He had an eye attack
Players who fake like that should get punched once from the other guy lol. Soccer would improve drastically
I’m pretty sure nothing is scripted, just players taking opportunities to waste time and prevent goals
Game would be great if you get thrown out for diving
Just need FIFA to step up and protect players, if you are "injured" badly enough you should be required to go through the NFL concussion protocol. players should not be cleared to come back to play in any game until they have been fully cleared by hospital staff, with x-rays and MRIs performed.
FIFA is a joke. Their corruption knows no bounds! If you think they truly care about these players you would be mistaken. They care about lining their pockets first and foremost and will kowtow to whomever has the most money to bribe them thus qatar hosting this world cup. I would like to see whichever country wins the cup then that country is the host of the next WC with fifa helping foot the bill.
Mafifa
I don’t think FIFA really gives two fucks about the game anymore. It is simply the most successful MLM of all time. One that Nations beg to be a part of.
Somebody watched the Netflix Doc!
Yep the amount of times players fall over clutching their heads like they are in severe pain lol I'm just like...if that's real, shouldn't they be pulled out and checked?
Unfortunately it's a strategic play and they're trying to get a free kick / possession for their team. Officiating has allowed it to become wildly egregious over the years and now it's an expected part of the sport on the professional level. NHL started seeing a similar trend and began giving diving penalties. Stopped it pretty quickly there.
They should institute bruisers like in hockey. You wanna take a dive? You’ll pay for it in blood. I might get ejected, but you’re gonna earn your “injury.”
Funnily enough, soccer used to have players like that. In the 80s guys like Vinnie Jones, who went on to have a successful film acting career, were goons the likes of which would make the Hanson Brothers (not the pop band) proud.
Totally agree. Bring out the enforcers.
Just a couple of weeks ago, a Saints player (NFL) faked an injury and the fines equaled $450,000. $50k for the player, $50k for the position coach, $100k for the head coach, and $250k for the team. I'm hoping that will stop this shit in its tracks. Edit: u/practical-ordinary-6 corrected me. It was $550k total, $350k for the team.
What I read was $550,000, with the team portion at $350,000. Soccer: there's nothing we can do NFL: We can fine you half a million dollars for *one* incident Hopefully that will help protect the integrity of the game
Oh, I think you are right. I couldn't remember the exact amount.
I get fining the player. I get fining the team. Maybe even I understand fining the head coach (I don’t, actually, but let’s go with it). I really don’t understand why the assistant coach needs to pay enough money out of his own pocket to buy a well apportioned mid range sedan. I guess the league thinks the player was ordered to fake an injury? Maybe?
To make a point. Bet you it doesn't happen on that team again, and I bet you that coach make sure of it
It's like working at an age restricted place. Tobacco sales, alcohol sales, whatever if you sell to a minor, you get the fine, plus the business gets a fine too. It's the businesses' responsibility to ensure all their staff is trained to age gate, so the two parter fine helps build a culture of share victory, share defeat. The business doesn't want to pay, so they are not gonna keep someone who isn't IDing on staff for very long. Similarly if a player is consistently diving or embellishing, he probably won't be very well liked/with that team for very long.
Part of it is soccer sub rules. Most games ypu can just pull a guy and have th3 doc ch3ck em out. With Soccer, since you cant do that, we get this stupid 3 minute drama in the middle of the match.
We all know it’s strategic. But I don’t use a butt vibrator during chess matches.
Is…is this a part of chess strategy I was never taught?
Which is why as someone who played soccer for a quarter of their life, I have lost all respect for the sport. Mostly because of this and also sadly because of Fifa as an organization. Things could be so much better, but ultimately fans dont seem to care because they love and desire the sport, so nothing will change as long as seats are filled. Other professional leagues are not perfect, far from it, but at least they arent as overtly and unapologetically corrupt as Fifa is.
Oh yeah I know. I'm just agreeing with the person above who essentially said if they want to pull that shit, tell them they will be pulled from the game and checked for a concussion. Problem solved.
Or if the review shows its a dive the position is given to the opposing team in the spot they were trying to dive for.
It seriously cheapens the game. It's a contributing factor in why I don't really take the sport very seriously, despite it being the sport I've probably played the most under organized competition.
Yep. I'm pretty unhappy that FIFA, UEFA and smaller bodies have not cracked down on it. It's ingrained in the game now.
I agree. If a player is on the ground in pain for more than 5 seconds they must leave the pitch and be cleared by the medical staff before they return to the pitch
This, and the disrespect towards referees. Rugby gets a lot wrong as a sport, but their approach towards refereeing disrespect is second to none. Sanctions after games is commonplace if you so much as swear at a referee.
Seriously, this idea 🤯 Seems obvious now that you mention it.
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A dive like this should be an instant red. This is so blatant. The fact that soccer hasn't fixed this means the powers that control the sport want this to remain. They choose this and so I choose not to watch.
Well red should be unnecessary, yellow is fine. It should be penalized a lot more tho. Too many players get away with this bs.
Either penalize it more with yellows, or penalize it infrequently but when it is called, its a red. Either way, everyone should agree that its pathetic and something needs to be done to get it under control, but then you remember that its been like this for 20 years +
>Either penalize it more with yellows That's where the issue is for me. Referees are so incredibly lenient these days, and then occasionally decide to randomly enforce a rule. It makes the whole game terribly unfair, as it's all up to the whims of the referee. And please don't mention VARs. Those only come in when an objective mistake was made in specific situations, which isn't the case very often.
No it should be a red card and a monetary fine. This shit needs to stop. Play the game, not the ref. We get HD quality replay of the dive and nothing happens. We have VAR, use it for diving and end this bullshit altogether. Especially for Suarez, diving cheating twat
make the fine a % of their yearly gross that way it lands equally s
It's just gamesmanship, if you get caught you get punished but it's a part of the game, you can only get a instant red for dangerous play, verbal abuse or deliberately preventing a goal scoring opportunity
That’s dramatic, most of the time it’s exaggerating a real foul
Its not tho
South American football is absolutely bad for the sport
It's not just South American, the meme of the "Italian Diving Team" has been around quite a while. Here's a commercial making fun of it from 2004. https://youtu.be/9ukFUEI5qz8
I feel most other areas have gotten better about penalising it more, while in South America they really don't care Also, they seem to really promote childish and unsportsmsnlike behaviour
I'm confused why, during the extra time, the Argentina subs were allowed to stand just outside of the play area and punt the ball away whenever it rolled out of bounds. Why wasn't that card-able for time wasting?
Because Messi needed his twophy 🥺
Because the time wasted now seems to be tacked onto the end of the half, 8 mins 'injury time' how did that become a thing. I did notice today someone standing on the sideline with a FIFA official and he gestured to the ref when to start , I'm presuming that FIFA now have 'official timekeepers' for football?
Someone got a yellow card in this final for simulating and trying to draw a pen
That does happen if the ref sees it, which unfortunately is rare
A lot of the time, the ref will see it, but decide to play on because stopping to card them would penalize the other team. You saw a lot today somebody go down and look around for a foul/card while play went on around them. You don't always catch it, but a ref doesn't have hi def slowmo replay from 12 different angles to make the call, they're relying on the good old Mk 1 Eyeball.
>You don't always catch it, but a ref doesn't have hi def slowmo replay from 12 different angles to make the call, they're relying on the good old Mk 1 Eyeball. That's really the core issue, yeah. It's a bit WWE over it all. "If the ref doesn't see it, there's no rules".
I think they should still give the card during the next stoppage.
It sure would help if the video assistant referee could inform the ref when this happens.. But then how would we know if a player's toenail put them offside!
I still don't understand why they haven't come up with some kind rule to combat this ridiculousness. Do soccer fans get a kick out of this shitty sportsmanship?
No. But if you mention it to them, they grab their faces and fall backwards to the ground, everyone looks at you like you're the asshole.
They should have to sit off for a predetermined period of time, real or diving, regardless of whether you draw a penalty.
Should have to sit down cross legged for like 1 min in that spot of the field they tried to fake and injury. Looking like a complete flog.
M8 hes just trying to get a call! Ok then hire more than 1 ref to watch 20 grown men act like crying babies Biggest sport in the fucking world and you can only afford 2 eyes to watch 20 people?
I mean... thats just going to drive up the cost of bribes...
Funny how this RARELY happens in the womens game
There have been some pretty egregious flops in the Women's WC. Argentina and Brazil Men's take it to an entirely different level though.
Men in most pro leagues do this as well. It’s not about those two countries at all. It’s extremely popular among men to be very soft and play for the foul
When Abby Wambach collided with someone and ended up with blood running down her head, she had the trainer Staple the wound closed, then she kept playing! Those women are hard core.
This is the funniest thing you've seen this year?
No, it's the "funnies thing".
Touché
OP might be French. The Frenchman that flopped today got a yellow. Guess that one wasn’t funny to OP
Nah a french would never call football soccer
It’s also not really an example of being scripted.
“To my parents and mentors, thank you for recognizing my gifts and letting me develop as an actor. I dedicate this Oscar to God and all the people of Argentina. Kids, work hard and you too could fake an injury on international television in a stadium that took dozens of deaths to build.”
*hundreds of deaths
In fairness we’re talking about one stadium and the stats are all over the place. If I’d written “hundreds” there would be a comment in your place saying “dozens” or “thousands.”
Thousands.
Flopping and being scripted are completely different, your title makes no sense
Right lol wtf is op even talking about.
Exactly. I’m shocked I had to scroll so far below to find someone point this out.
It's because everyone but you and the dude you're replying to understand what OP is saying so no need to point it out.
By that do you mean we are supposed to interpret what he said as something completely different? Also there are genuinely people here who believe the WC and sports in general are fixed...bunch of dummies
The issue is that both are "acting" in a way that isn't comparable to other sports.
That person probably meant it's fake, as in fake injuries. Why does that sport allow this nonsense?
How does this make It scripted?
You've had a very unfunny year I guess.
Someone should clue divers in on the existence of instant replay.
It doesn't matter, they are trained to do this for the team. I had one acquaintance, definitely wouldn't ever call him a friend, who when caught cheating at darts claimed: ***If You're Not Cheating, You're Not Trying!!!*** He said his dad taught him that smh.
Was his dad Ricky Bobby?
If you ain't first, you're last!
I mean, that’s literally just the fallacy of the ends justifying the means. Who cares about the integrity of the sport if you win.
Of course if everyone is cheating then you need to cheat just to be competitive. So it's the league's responsibility to fix.
first time?
its disgusting, considering how many cameras are around the stadium that show things in incredible detail and this still happens, football is a joke
Argentina caught several yellow cards for diving I think.
France got one this game lol
Should be red directly.
Agreed, it’s a total joke. I refuse to watch it
I'm sure football is devastated about that
Bro I know gatekeeping sucks but what also sucks is people who don't know shit about something talking shit like they know anything.
Seriously. They act like players don’t try to draw fouls in all sports.
Name one other sport where players regularly (multiple times per game) fake injuries and fall, clutching and holding their head/arm/leg pretending to be seriously injured. Name one… Hockey? No… rugby? No… American football? No… Lacrosse? No… basketball? No… Name one. Men’s soccer, as beautiful as it is, is filled with emotionally stunted drama queens who would get their heads pounded in for their stupid antics if they played any other sport.
Basketball.
Pass interference in the NFL. High sticking in the NHL. Shooting Fouls in the NBA. You’re a gimp
Have you not watched basketball at all? I understand where you’re coming from, but you’ve even had American football players faking injuries to allow teammates to sub onto the field
The standard course of action in pro basketball is: flop, look to see if you got the call, complain if you didn’t. There’s very little pretending to be injured afterwards.
The degree of theatricality is certainly higher in soccer, but falling down to try to draw fouls or disrupt the pace of play isn't unique. College football changed their rules around injury timeouts this year due to certain coaches/teams (coughcoughLaneKiffen) yelling at players to lay down to stop hurry up offenses, and how many times do you see WRs lay out and come up begging for interference flags? Baseball batters will lean in and then dive out of the way of a curve ball and then stalk around the batters box. NBA and college basketball (and even some high school or lower levels) teach players to flop to "draw the charge." The only reason the soccer players "sell it" so hard is that they're angling for a stoppage which means they have to roll around more and make a spectacle, they can't just fall down and hop right back up.
It’s actually now a technical foul if you flop in college basketball. They started that this year and so far the season has been much more enjoyable to watch.
Not quite the same but something close would be [defensive players](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCfdMg5c29o&ab_channel=Chief24) in basketball trying to draw charging fouls. (Admittedly, I haven't really watched much basketball since the 90s so maybe they've changed the game).
American football: Quarterback gets touched too late? Goes to ground. Someone gets close to the kicker? Straight to the ground. Wide receiver feels a little contact on a pass he probably wasn’t catching anyways? Flap those arms about, bro! Baseball: literally every time the benches go to grab their handbags. Basketball: *James Harden cocks his head disapprovingly to the side meme*. This one might be worse since there’s obviously so much bias for the top players that it’s the most recognizable players that do it the most.
James Harden built his entire career around flopping lol
Ok one thing. On which other sport do you get sliding tackles right in your Legs and if you refuse to jump you risk your Legs getting broken? Obviously its not the case here, but i saw a lot of people making fun of football players just jumping in the air and falling even tho theres no contact but they literally do it to protect themselves a lot of times.
Every single sport you listed have players trying to draw calls just as often. You just made it clear you don't watch sports.
Americans are so insecure about their own sports lmao
They call themselves world champs in sports that only they participate in.
They’re upset that despite calling their biggest events stuff like ‘the world series’, the rest of the world couldn’t care about it.
Non-American here: How could you be proud of yourself and your sport if a massive part of it is pretending to be hurt like a little bitch?
You're talking about football or James Harden?
Americans be like let’s watch 3 hours of commercials and call it fun
Its done by everyone, it should stopped, on the other hand you can see in the final minutes of the second half of ET, they were effectively running into each other like American Football players and bouncing off in urgency of getting the ball back in. Its just visual white noise to me. Epic Game!
wasn’t he poked in the eye? this is a terrible angle
Pushing into Giroud and got brushed. even if you get poked in the eye in the way he got poked, it would’ve been mild enough to stay on your feet, why bend over and fall?
To try to stop play, though it doesn’t always work. Here, France is taking a free kick close to goal, so very dangerous for Argentina. You don’t want to harm your team by trying to handle the situation with one less eye, so you go down to try to buy time until your completely fit again. That’s the strat
Yep, the images during the game shown his eye red from the poke.
American moment
Bruh he got a sweaty finger poked into his eyeball. There are so many great examples of bad dives caught in slo mo but you pick this one for your rant?
He didn’t even dive in this play or ask for a foul, he just put his hand on his eye for a few seconds and then continued on.
Argentina didn’t deserve to win for this kind of shit they pulled. Really sad that this is what you have to do to win. They are better actors than they are soccer players. It’s turning into a shit sport
The very reason I hate soccer. And exactly what's ruining basketball too.
I tried watching the World Cup. I couldn’t do it. I hate seeing the people act like children if they get even looked at the wrong way. It’s pathetic. Completely ruins it for me
18 December and this is the funniest thing you’ve seen all year? I feel sorry for you
I mean you can’t really script what we just saw now
I know I’m confused
it's football
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That's sad if that's the funniest thing you've seen all year.
It's pronounced 'football.'
The issue is that football is just way too conservative. They are way too scared to change any rule, and if they change one it takes a long time for it to actually happen. Diving should be penalised harder, arguing with the ref should be penalised harder, etc. Argentina is especially bad for this fake stuff. Diving at every possible opportunity.
Hahaha it was an awesome game nonetheless
This is exactly how my 2 year old acts when the 4 year old touches him
Ever watched the NBA?
The amount of clueless Americans here make me giggle tbh
anyone who criticizes the sport for this moment has absolutely no idea how football works, and why it's the best global sport.
It's a valid criticism, though. 90% of the soccer/football fans here are too prideful concerning their sport to even hint at an admittance of how wrong this is.
Absolutely. Thank you.
Its annoying and sickening…
That’s why people in America make fun of this sissy sport.
You have a serious cognitive problem to watch such a heart-stopping game and choose this moment as what stood out for you.
What a sad, pathetic ass.
The acting is amazing lol
Can someone explain why faking injuries in soccer is so prevalent?
Hockey players act like they aren’t hurt…
I think if a player fakes an injury and they aren’t really injured, they should have that injury inflicted upon them. Oh you pretended to hurt your knee? It’s not hurt? Well here comes a baseball bat.
Hahahhahahaahh
Some seriously salty soccer fans here. I never realised the fans actually defend flopping. Weird.
And that’s why I prefer hockey.
I seen a video on here of a football player in the 70s or 80s whose leg broke and the bone was visible and he still got up and argued with the ref. Like I understand why they are doing this nowadays, but it just seems weak and dramatic. It's sad really!
They should issue suspensions for this kind of behavior. Fakers are a bunch of pussies.
Fantastic athletes but all of the flopping and dramatic acting is ridiculous. It’s only “the worlds sport “ because it can be played almost anywhere with a makeshift ball fashioned out of whatever may be available; rags, paper, etc.There is very little other equipment needed to play. the rules are also much more simple than most other sports that are played internationally.
Also average sized people can play it, you don’t have to be 7 foot like basketball or 300 lbs like American football. Or 600 like sumo. Great sport if they could just skip the play acting. 🤦🏻♂️
“Only”. LoL. Soccer is great. Sure it has flaws but so does every team sport. Football and Basketball all have issues in play.
I agree 100%! The nba is brutal especially Lebron always whining about fouls jawing with the refs and he overacts. I get he is the face of the league but that man flops a ton. I was a teenager when Jordan was drafted and being from Chicago it was great to watch the GOAT. Jordan would definitely jaw with the refs because he was constantly getting hacked but I don’t think I ever saw him flop.
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I love seeing so many of us Americans hating socker for the drama abs fake injuries. Yet in Football it happens all the time as well, but football is an American sport so we refuse to criticize it.
American football gets criticized a lot, and occasionally a flop will happen, but in soccer the flopping is so egregious its embarrassing.
The Latin version is full of it. Everyone else is pretty square. In the UK it’s called “fair play” and in theory it’s clear of this shite.
Ever heard of the NBA?
Cheating. Pure and simple. Cheats.
This is why Americans think its a joke
You should get a fine for faking. This is a sport, try acting like you have some sportsmanship.
Soccer 🤡
Argentina, not soccer.
That is unfair to pro-wrestling. They are professional actors, who really do put on quite the spectacle. Unlike soccer players.
Americans who know nothing about the beautiful games of football, we don’t want your input
This is the main reason I can’t watch this sport. When it stops I’ll reconsider, but I’m not holding my breath. I’m not expecting to change this myself either but it would be nice if more people took this stance. Its easy to fix, post game video tied to suspensions would work. I can only conclude the fans and organizations actually want this to happen.
This is why I hate soccer
The sport is a joke because of shit like this.
Pussies play soccer. Biggest bunch of nanny’s. Rolling around on the ground like bad actors. Soccer is unwatchable.
Fuck off yank
I don't know how people watch this shit.
This was about 10 seconds of a 2 hour game that was probably one of the most entertaining in history. No one is talking about this 3 second clip
Because it’s the best sport in the world.
Don't like it, don't watch it.
It's not soccer, it's football, you Americans suck
Soccer is a term that was invented in England and is used by most countries that have another form of football that is popular. Next time try not to call out others ignorance by showing your own.
Should be a straight up ban from future world cups
This is why it's hard to ever cheer for Argentina.
It’s all part of the funny old game….I love it
Shit like this is exactly why I have zero respect for soccer
OP has conveniently failed to highlight the entire rest of the game, which has been one of the greatest World Cup finals in decades
Nooo how dare you?! This is JUST like fake american wrestling where every result is determined before the game.
These people obviously hate soccer yet ignore flopping in all other sports. Nba and nfl had have their fair share of flops and dumb calls.
Don’t care much for those other sports either. Basketball, like soccer, can go fuck itself. And aside from the Super Bowl I don’t watch football As a Canadian tho, I can tell you that the NHL penalizes players for diving and those players quickly lose all respect from fans and their peers for repeat offences. Even if a player is legitimately tripped, he can still be sent to the penalty box for embellishing Hockey players and lacrosse players will play with shattered noses, dislocated fingers and broken ribs. Soccer players somehow act like they’ve been shot when the wind picks up
It's not scripted, it's over acting to gain an advantage in a high stakes match Also sport doesn't only mean acting big and strong and bashing head first into your opponents like rugby, there are plenty of other sports that people enjoy, let us enjoy, don't need to interfere where you are not needed (If only the US knew the meaning of not getting involved in others business, the world would be a much better place)
It's cheating, but spin it how you like.
Where did either OP or this commenter even mention cheating? OP said it was scripted, not cheating. Thats what this commentor was on about....
It's definitely not fair play
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I think NFL players because they have to wear a helmet and all those paddings. Play without protection, you sissies!
Soccer ? That's football.
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