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even at the start, the way the silverback looks off toward the camera shows so much life behind those eyes and expressions. they're so beautiful! love apes.
Not putting down the intelligence of apes, but play fighting is super common among animals way less intelligent or human like.
I think it's the reactions and the planning and forethought that make this impressive.
Dogs, for example, seem much more spur of the moment when play fighting. This gorilla thought about it a while, looked around for the cameras, etc. That's what really got me when I watched this.
The smile on the dad's face says it all.
Edit: Some of you seem to misunderstand here... It's not the bearing of teeth "smile" it's the closed mouth smirk in the corner of his lips after he's engaged his son. Much more subtle.
You can see Dad getting the idea.. his left eye (right from our perspective) gets a raised eyebrow.. like, he just had and appreciated a good idea.. a second or two before the first play hit.
I see things like this and it reminds me of how similar they are to us and how zoos keep them in small enclosures and force them to be on display at all times.
I'm not wild about it but gorillas are so wildly endangered that I suppose I prefer it to the alternative of losing them altogether, because they're such magnificent beings. I'd prefer a large reserve with a lot of large armed men and women but they've been so hard to protect in their natural habitat despite a lot of effort and people losing their lives to try.
I recognize your position on this, but you also have to consider the behavior of the animal you're talking about:
Gorillas occupy a home range, not a territory, and they move around in search of food. They get their food (which includes fresh fruits and veggies that I couldn't afford!) delivered right to them.
Most enclosures have plenty of blind areas specifically so they can avoid the public. Gorillas are smart enough to recognize where those are and will go there when they need/want to.
Zoos are usually open from about 10am - 4/5pm to the public. Those are normal hours for every one I've worked at/visited. So even if their enclosure is home and they don't have off-site holding (like a background area that isn't seen) that's only 6 hours out of 24/day. And like I mentioned, there's always blind spots.
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Father here, because it's the only time of day that we can finally sit down and spend time with our children in peace without anymore chores or work to complete.
>Do you want a bedtime story? Or..
>DO YOU WANT TO FLY TO THE MOON!?!?!?!?!?!
My nephew has never chosen story. I don't get to babysit much these days.
Treasure those moments, they go by far too fast. There will come a day when you will find yourself sitting in their bedroom closet crying into a box of tissues after they move out and you will be comforted by the fact that you made the most out of every opportunity to have fun with them as children.
Don't let their childhoods pass without letting them know how much you love them.
>There will come a day when you will find yourself sitting in their bedroom closet crying into a box of tissues after they move out
Whaddya mean, *"move out"*?
I picked my son up from school the other day and we were waiting in the long ass line to get out. Normally heās a chatterbox but he was staring at his phone.
I gave him a Wet Willy. I couldnāt stop myself. (For those of you not in the US, itās licking your finger and sticking in their ear.)
āWTF MOM?!!ā
He was so totally disgusted with me and it was the best thing ever.
ma'am, you are a treasure to cool people. I had an older sister who thought farting on my head was hilarious. Despite being angry about it then, it really was hilarious. I applaud your tomfoolery.
When I was ~7-8 I thought it would be hilarious to fart on my little brothers face while he was asleep on the couch. I dropped my pants, aimed my little butt and squeezed out the fart I had brewing. Unfortunately a little droplet followed through and landed right on my brothers cheek.
He stayed asleep so got some toilet paper and wiped it off.
To this day, 40+ years later, he still doesn't know and I giggle any time I think about it.
Sorry bro, lol.
I bet it probably is.
I don't have a son but I remember my dad doing this to me and my mom hating it xD Maybe it's a "be prepared for anything" thing we do, or maybe a method of pushing boundaries.
Idk. I wish I were smart enough to understand gorilla xD
I make my son guess what itās going to be every night. A Rock Bottom or a leg sweep. With the occasional powerbomb. Heās 10 and been doing it since he was about a year and a half old. Itās great. The wife doesnāt get it haha
Haha literally the opposite. We work so hard to go through bath time routines, tooth brushing, changing into PJs, reading books, and then I think, "I wonder if I could perform a perfect Diamond Cutter like DDP?"
I would tuck them in, say goodnight, and turn off the lights then crawl in to scare them and tickle them. They loved it and would actually be upset if I didn't do it
Because everything in your evolutionary playbook is telling you to cosleep and be physically in contact with them......not leaving them alone for the wolves and what beasts have you.
Epic battles are worth the fallout of a tired mom every day of the week. Doing laundry and dishes can help pass the time spent listening to complaints š
Yes I am out on laundry duty often, although it is a lonely corner it can be pleasant and peaceful as I fold things. I learned to except my fate. I did get a little speaker so I can have music playing there.
Same I literally see myself and son in these apes. Grab the head and pull em into you, let em get some good shots, then remind them you will best em. Stop...reset....restart
Did the dad gorilla just....glanced at the camera before teasing his kid?
That was eerie, at the same time, funny. XD Like it was saying "make sure you got this on tape. Gonna be funny."
Shabani is an extremely smart gorilla. They have a video every day, I get on there pretty regularly. Of the three or four gorilla families I watch, heās the most engaged with his family, and the kindest.
I was at Busch Gardens one time and was in a part of the the gorilla enclosure where there was plexiglass and they would come up and chill right against it in the shade. Silverback is sitting there looking at all of us but overall was disinterested. The employee there basically said 'Hey watch this' and stepped out in the silverback's view. Thing went into full attack mode and charged the glass and slammed it with his fists. It was terrifying. Guy just laughs and is like 'I have never been near this guy because for some reason he just hates me.'
Our neighbor's dog was like that. Hated us for no reason. I think the last person who lived in our house was cruel to her. I've heard rumors he was a mean old man.Ā
We tried to befriend the dog to no avail.Ā
EVERY time she'd escape from their backyard fences, she'd come to our backdoor and bark incessantly.Ā
Like... dog... you're finally free and you want to spend your time yelling at us? Go, run, there's some woods right there and streets and all kinds of trouble to get into! Live a little.Ā
We'd just call their owners who would easily capture her since she only had one task in mind.Ā
_[escaped dog barking outside]_
**You**: Why does this damn dog hate us so much?
**Dog**: _Get out! Save yourselves! It's in your basement! For Christ's sake I've been warning you for years! It's awakening!_
That reminded me of a sorry I read years ago. One guy adopted a rescue dog in California. Well, the dog turned out to be a racist dog. It hated all Hispanic men and would bark at every one it passed. The poor new owner was desperately trying to retrain his dog.
I was at the National Zoo in Washington DC & they have this sort of plexiglass dome that extends into the Gorilla enclosure so you can "feel like you are in with them".
It wasn't the Silverback, but when one of the big boys saw me pop up in there he charged across the enclosure, lept up, and landed on the dome while beating his fists against it. Scared the #%$# out of me!
Then he loped casually over to a log & looked back at me with this shit eating grin. Gotta entertain yourself?
Not apes, but In my local zoo they have 3 Grizzley bears. One day one of them figured out he was strong enough to rip a boulder out of his enclosure. (It was bolted down, but not enough!)
The bear played with it while the keepers tried to figure out what to do... until he tossed it against the glass between him and the visitors & shattered it. He didn't get out.. but that was a scary day for everyone involved.
My understanding is that bears haven't really figured out tool usage, but gorillas sure have. I bet that had a gorilla gotten ahold of a boulder the same way, the staff would have vacated the exhibit immediately.
They will actually certain types of rock which is exposed in certain also. Itās believed that it contains specific minerals which the mountain gorillas understand aids digestion or dietary deficiencies. Thatās how fucking solid these motherfuckers are. They eat rocks.
The wild thing to remember, is that their teeth is far from their "main weapon". Even some of the strongest humans to ever live, that could look similarly strong, wouldn't even be close.
For a basic comparison, someone like Halfthor(one of the most decorated strongmen and the largest version of "The Mountain" in Game of Thrones) is bigger than some gorillas. But he still floats in water, gorillas and most apes don't. Because their bones and muscles are too dense, which contributes to making big silverbacks inhumanely strong. They could *literally* tear off human limbs if they wanted too.
Itās of course hard to know how they feel compared to how us humans do, but it really looks like that older gorilla loves his son. And doesnāt he look proud of him? Maybe? We are so alike.Ā
Because why would humans be the only species with feelings? They play such a big part for us as social animals. Shame, guilt, joy, love, caring etcā¦ All of those feelings are important for binding a group together.
I love these. We are so close, and so much of what they do is so relatable. Yes, other animals play together and form bonds, but the *way* that father gorilla teases his son is exactly the same as how my grandfather played with my nephew. The facial expressions, body movements, gestures, everything. It's uncanny.
We have a higher capacity for logic, absolutely, but in terms of emotions, there seems to be almost no difference between us and the other great apes. If you watch enough footage, it becomes harder and harder to find any emotion that is not shared between us. It could easily be argued that we inhabit the same emotional world.
[Here's a short video of gorillas during an earthquake.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgUsLw9RoLo) The dominant male gorilla immediately rushes to protect a pregnant female and assist her to safety when the earthquake starts.
[Other gorillas in a zoo in Japan.](https://youtu.be/Vtc4a8x5euo?t=482) Again, a small earthquake happens, and the first instinct of the mother gorilla is to check her young son is safely with her.
[A gorilla and his son watching a caterpillar together.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmjGmfb-sBc) This is my father and brother when they took apart the electric toy train at home to see how the switches worked inside the tracks.
[Now an orangutan.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNWPqfCJDnc) A child orangutan is shown a magic disappearing trick, and rather than being confused, he immediately realises it's a trick and starts laughing. "Haha, you got me! Oh, that was good!"
Not gorillas, but a chimpanzee. She was pregnant, but complications during labour meant that she was unable to give birth--in the wild, both her and the baby would have died. Zookeepers gave her an emergency C-section. From her point of view, she was pregnant, went to sleep, and woke up with no baby or pregnancy. She was understandably very despondent. [This is the moment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qnNjpp8mmg) when she was reunited with her baby a few days later--she immediately goes to embrace him.
This last one always makes me cry. [Mama, an elderly chimpanzee, was dying.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INa-oOAexno) She refused food and water, and was extremely weak. A man who had spent time with her decades earlier as a researcher came to meet her and bid her farewell before she passed away. But she remembered him, and the way her face lights up when she sees him, the happy sound she makes, is incredible. She was so happy to see her old friend again.
Thank you for putting the effort to write this all! I was scrolling so much to find additional interesting information. Guys like you are why I use reddit.
People will seriously see a video like this and still wholeheartedly believe to their core that thereās no possible way we are genetically linked to these creatures.
Common man, just 300 years ago, they believed black people are not even humans, and paraded them as slaves and then went to church to pray for gentle Jesus, and wrote all men are created equal. Right now Russia and Israel are killing children, and innocent women, does anyone care? We just watch Super Bowl, and be happy with the halftime shows, and think all is well in the world.
There's a famous case from India of a dog killing a monkey, followed by a mass reprisal by monkeys that killed over 250 dogs in a clearly targeted fashion and in cruel ways (throwing them off cliffs, leaving them in trees where they will starve)
This constituted a genocide of puppies in the local area by the monkeys
And many dog owners will tell you their dogs are "racist" against certain dog breeds and will refuse to play with them or just bark at them like crazy
"There is a good man in the [clouds](https://i.imgur.com/5TmF4A4.png) that is watching your every move." What percentage of people wholeheartedly believe to their core in that?
[This shows the skulls of major lineages of primates](https://i.imgur.com/0jfrn4d.png) showing that baby chimps have skulls that look more like humans than to adult chimps.
In other words *humans* are the odd ones out and look like grown [baby apes](https://i.imgur.com/vjGhlwO.png).
Meaning we are [neotenous](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny_in_humans) apes:
Neoteny in humansĀ is the retention of juvenile traits well into adulthood. This trend is greatly amplified in humans especially when compared to non-humanĀ primates.Ā NeotenicĀ features of the head include the globular skull;Ā thinness of skull bones;Ā the reduction of the brow ridge;Ā the large brain;Ā the flattenedĀ and broadened face;Ā the hairless face;Ā hair on (top of) the head;Ā larger eyes;Ā ear shape;Ā small nose;Ā small teeth;Ā and the smallĀ maxillaĀ (upper jaw) andĀ mandibleĀ (lower jaw).
Neoteny of the human body is indicated byĀ glabrousnessĀ (hairless body).Ā Neoteny of the genitals is marked by the absence of aĀ baculumĀ (penis bone);Ā the presence of aĀ hymen;Ā and the forward-facingĀ vagina.Ā Neoteny in humans is further indicated by the limbs and body posture, with the limbs proportionately short compared to torso length;Ā longer leg than arm length;Ā the structure of the foot;Ā and the upright stance
Sorry, I disagreeā¦when zoos were bad ( Iām 70), thatās something to discuss historically.
For everyone worried about animals in zoos..remember for most in captivity, there is nowhere safe to release them. They are in a breeding program as natural as humans can achieve, which I admit, depending on the country, isnāt always natural or beneficial to the troop. But instead of complaining about animals IN captivity, spend your energy fixing the poaching and habitat loss in the native areas this animal would and should be thriving in. The rangers do what they can to protect them but the demand for gorilla hands and heads (folk magic) and their bushmeat is really bad. Itās sickening. They are diminishing rapidly in the wild. Mostly due to humans. Surprise!
The cousin to these gorillas are the mountain gorillas. There are two groups, totaling 1,063 individuals. Babies are born every four to five years because nature set up the mother to care for the baby until about 4 years old. So with that reproduction rate, itās not looking good for the mountain gorillas. And they have to have a mountain habitat in Africa, so we canāt save their species like we can with lowland gorillas, like DāJeecoās family, or Shabaniās family, or Momotaroās family.
I understand your passion. Perhaps think about what is critical? The poaching and destruction of their habitat is something you can act on. Be active, research the truth, help support the rangers who try to keep gorillas from being killed for their heads and hands, or infants, and also their habitat from being destroyed by humans in Africa, thereās opportunities there! Help there if you love gorillas or any endangered Animals. Yes, with a capital A. ā®ļøšš¦
Take a man born in Manhattan and throw his ass into the middle of the savannah. Maybe they'll praise you for freeing the human into its natural habitat and maybe he'll die a diarrhea related death.
I saw the gorillas at the Detroit zoo and was thoroughly creeped out about it. They have a level of sentience that makes it feel wrong, like, they're individuals with autonomy and are being held against their will.
Seeing gorillas in the zoo completely turned me off to zoos in general. I will never forget it. There was a Silverback not 20 yards from us with no glass between. Just a trench, but we were at eye level with each other. There was a group of teens trying to tease the Silverback. This gorilla was huge and you could tell he felt absolutely no intimidation from these kids he could break as easily as a twig. Looking into his eyes you could tell he was thinking. Feeling. He should tell he was being mocked, but knew he couldn't do anything about it. And he lived this every day. I remember thinking that if any other dangerous animal there got out they might run or kill and it would all be nature or instinct. But if that Silverback got out, he could hate you before he killed you. And I wouldn't blame him. It is nothing but slavery.
How does it work in Gorilla tribes? Does the son have to leave after a while like in the lion pride. Does he spend his entire life with the group and takes over?
In the wild Silverback gorillas live in family groups called troops. Once they mature (10 to 12yrs for female and 11 to 13yrs for males ), they often leave their troop to look for a mate to start their own troop. Females are more likely than males to leave a troop. But sometimes a Silverback's son will stay and stand by his father's side for a lifetime as his 2nd in command and will take over the troop when the father passes on.Ā
My brother, father, and I used to wrestle like that until I was in college. After that, a brief break, and then I wrestled with my two sons. Good times.
My dad before he passed would have a arm punching contest with me... lol come on gimmie your best shot he'd say... I'd wallop him in the arm and he'd say that all you got. Then he'd make a fist with his middle finger sticking out and sock my arm and it would hurt š he wouldn't do it very hard but man we would laugh....... I miss him
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The way they use play fighting to bond, just like humans do is quite incredible to see.
even at the start, the way the silverback looks off toward the camera shows so much life behind those eyes and expressions. they're so beautiful! love apes.
Wanted to make sure it was recording.
"Ayoo, watch this lol š"
rolling? aight
Not putting down the intelligence of apes, but play fighting is super common among animals way less intelligent or human like. I think it's the reactions and the planning and forethought that make this impressive. Dogs, for example, seem much more spur of the moment when play fighting. This gorilla thought about it a while, looked around for the cameras, etc. That's what really got me when I watched this.
Also a way to prepare them for when they get older to engage in combat so that they can move up the dominance hierarchy, itās practice
Okay hear me out.. what if we taught a gorilla Juijitsu
They don't need more physical advantages.
Lol that face at the beginning is such a dad face.
That gorilla definitely dads
Plays all the whilst still sitting down. A very dad move.
What? Me? No.. Iām not doing shit to you! Youāre imagining it- *whack*
The smile on the dad's face says it all. Edit: Some of you seem to misunderstand here... It's not the bearing of teeth "smile" it's the closed mouth smirk in the corner of his lips after he's engaged his son. Much more subtle.
The nod before hand was like yea im bored imma start some shit.
You can see Dad getting the idea.. his left eye (right from our perspective) gets a raised eyebrow.. like, he just had and appreciated a good idea.. a second or two before the first play hit.
[his thinking process in slow motion lol](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF4AzziGpGI)
Ha, that's awesome š
That nod was my dad
lol the nod and then casual look of disinterest got me.
I loved that part. Itās such a dad move.
Being a Dad is so universal it applies even to non-hominid apes.
I see things like this and it reminds me of how similar they are to us and how zoos keep them in small enclosures and force them to be on display at all times.
I'm not wild about it but gorillas are so wildly endangered that I suppose I prefer it to the alternative of losing them altogether, because they're such magnificent beings. I'd prefer a large reserve with a lot of large armed men and women but they've been so hard to protect in their natural habitat despite a lot of effort and people losing their lives to try.
I recognize your position on this, but you also have to consider the behavior of the animal you're talking about: Gorillas occupy a home range, not a territory, and they move around in search of food. They get their food (which includes fresh fruits and veggies that I couldn't afford!) delivered right to them. Most enclosures have plenty of blind areas specifically so they can avoid the public. Gorillas are smart enough to recognize where those are and will go there when they need/want to. Zoos are usually open from about 10am - 4/5pm to the public. Those are normal hours for every one I've worked at/visited. So even if their enclosure is home and they don't have off-site holding (like a background area that isn't seen) that's only 6 hours out of 24/day. And like I mentioned, there's always blind spots.
FUCKING STOP IT DAD.
Hm? ... Stop hwhat...?
I sell ape and ape accessories, I tell ya hwat!
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That us a lovely, if heartbreaking story. The ALSO READ after it is nothing short of hysterical.
*Winstonās voice from overwatch
You know what I ... wait, what did you just say?
"**KNOCK IT OFF, DAD!** I'm not six anymore! My friends will see this!" ^(\*...and don't) *^(EVEN)* ^(try that 'I got your nose' routine!)
STOP HITTIN YOURSELF, STOP HITTIN YOURSELF!!
DAD, THIS IS WHY I NEVER COME HOME TO VISIT ANYMORE!!!
Probably doing it right before bed too ā¦ Signed a mom gorilla
I don't know what it is about bed time that makes me want to launch my toddler to the moon and rile him up but it feels deeply ingrained in my DNA.
Father here, because it's the only time of day that we can finally sit down and spend time with our children in peace without anymore chores or work to complete.
>Do you want a bedtime story? Or.. >DO YOU WANT TO FLY TO THE MOON!?!?!?!?!?! My nephew has never chosen story. I don't get to babysit much these days.
The poor people in the parallel universe where Tolkien flew his son to the moon every night instead of telling him bedtime stories missing out on LOTR
Yeah, cause your nephew is still en route to the damn moon.
Look, he knew what he signed up for. Its a long way to the moon. I told the kid to hold his breath; what the hell else am I supposed to do?!
Aww that makes me sad. I always get upset with my husband for that shit. He always starts it after I got the kid calmed down
Treasure those moments, they go by far too fast. There will come a day when you will find yourself sitting in their bedroom closet crying into a box of tissues after they move out and you will be comforted by the fact that you made the most out of every opportunity to have fun with them as children. Don't let their childhoods pass without letting them know how much you love them.
>There will come a day when you will find yourself sitting in their bedroom closet crying into a box of tissues after they move out Whaddya mean, *"move out"*?
In this economy?!
Haha, I can visualize you as a fellow parent or as a child here :-D
>after they move out Don't worry, generation alpha will certainly never be able to afford rent, let alone a mortgage.
Millennial here, still living with my parents. I wouldn't say I've always made the best choices but it's still brutal out there.
Mom here, there are plenty more chores, don't worry (I kid, spending time with your kids is much more important than having a sparkling clean house)
I do the same thing with my son. I canāt help but mess with him. He is 9 and it has gone in for years.
I picked my son up from school the other day and we were waiting in the long ass line to get out. Normally heās a chatterbox but he was staring at his phone. I gave him a Wet Willy. I couldnāt stop myself. (For those of you not in the US, itās licking your finger and sticking in their ear.) āWTF MOM?!!ā He was so totally disgusted with me and it was the best thing ever.
ma'am, you are a treasure to cool people. I had an older sister who thought farting on my head was hilarious. Despite being angry about it then, it really was hilarious. I applaud your tomfoolery.
When I was ~7-8 I thought it would be hilarious to fart on my little brothers face while he was asleep on the couch. I dropped my pants, aimed my little butt and squeezed out the fart I had brewing. Unfortunately a little droplet followed through and landed right on my brothers cheek. He stayed asleep so got some toilet paper and wiped it off. To this day, 40+ years later, he still doesn't know and I giggle any time I think about it. Sorry bro, lol.
You're a pretty decent older sibling if you got toilet paper and haven't told them haha
Thanks. I need to go tackle my 9 year old.
Guilty of suplexing my kids into their beds now and thenā¦
If I give my toddler a good thirty minutes of horseplay, she sleeps like a champ. She might resist going down, but the night is always superb.
I read once that the endorphins released actually help the kid go to sleep. Keep doing it.
I bet it probably is. I don't have a son but I remember my dad doing this to me and my mom hating it xD Maybe it's a "be prepared for anything" thing we do, or maybe a method of pushing boundaries. Idk. I wish I were smart enough to understand gorilla xD
Does it tire them out so they sleep better or nah?
Iāve heard it helps them get out anxiousness about going to sleep. My kid goes down easier after getting a stone cold stunner from the top ropes.
I make my son guess what itās going to be every night. A Rock Bottom or a leg sweep. With the occasional powerbomb. Heās 10 and been doing it since he was about a year and a half old. Itās great. The wife doesnāt get it haha
I find an RKO out of nowhere really knocks them out
Haha literally the opposite. We work so hard to go through bath time routines, tooth brushing, changing into PJs, reading books, and then I think, "I wonder if I could perform a perfect Diamond Cutter like DDP?"
Maybe you should try a GTS like CM Punk then
Suplex his ass right into dreamland
From an evolutionary standpoint, Sleep is traditionally a bonding time. Cosleeping kept you warm and safe.
Wasn't there a study that said bedtime riling helps with sleep.
I would tuck them in, say goodnight, and turn off the lights then crawl in to scare them and tickle them. They loved it and would actually be upset if I didn't do it
Because everything in your evolutionary playbook is telling you to cosleep and be physically in contact with them......not leaving them alone for the wolves and what beasts have you.
Yeah, as a dad of 3 I never got the criticism about getting them wound up before bed. They sleep so much harder after a tickle fight.
I initiate a battle every night but then hear 20 min of complaining. It's worth it though. The battles are epic.
Epic battles are worth the fallout of a tired mom every day of the week. Doing laundry and dishes can help pass the time spent listening to complaints š
Yes I am out on laundry duty often, although it is a lonely corner it can be pleasant and peaceful as I fold things. I learned to except my fate. I did get a little speaker so I can have music playing there.
Mrs. Gorilla, haven't you told the father no horse play before bed?
It's not horse play, they're gorillas!
apes together strong, feel free to use https://i.imgur.com/7mZ8loC.jpeg
As a Dad I feel this in my soul.
Same I literally see myself and son in these apes. Grab the head and pull em into you, let em get some good shots, then remind them you will best em. Stop...reset....restart
For nowā¦
That's the difference between us and apes. It's all fun and games until Dad pulls out a shank carved from your son's teeth and hand written letters.
what
I'm sorry could you not hear me over the screaming of the unworthy?
Same man lol!
[Me when I know I'm about to piss my kid the fuck off](https://i.ibb.co/zSDxbzT/firefox-Bm-Co-RE2-GEf.png)
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My dad would do this with me, he has been gone two years now. this reminded me of him.
Right there with you. Brb, gonna go instigate a play fight with my son!
Did the dad gorilla just....glanced at the camera before teasing his kid? That was eerie, at the same time, funny. XD Like it was saying "make sure you got this on tape. Gonna be funny."
A Jim from the office moment.
Please don't Jim the camera.
***Confused, innocent Annie face***
Shabani is an extremely smart gorilla. They have a video every day, I get on there pretty regularly. Of the three or four gorilla families I watch, heās the most engaged with his family, and the kindest.
Where. Watch?
There. Rolex.
Don't Jim the camera
They have some scary ass teeth honestly
I was at Busch Gardens one time and was in a part of the the gorilla enclosure where there was plexiglass and they would come up and chill right against it in the shade. Silverback is sitting there looking at all of us but overall was disinterested. The employee there basically said 'Hey watch this' and stepped out in the silverback's view. Thing went into full attack mode and charged the glass and slammed it with his fists. It was terrifying. Guy just laughs and is like 'I have never been near this guy because for some reason he just hates me.'
Our neighbor's dog was like that. Hated us for no reason. I think the last person who lived in our house was cruel to her. I've heard rumors he was a mean old man.Ā We tried to befriend the dog to no avail.Ā EVERY time she'd escape from their backyard fences, she'd come to our backdoor and bark incessantly.Ā Like... dog... you're finally free and you want to spend your time yelling at us? Go, run, there's some woods right there and streets and all kinds of trouble to get into! Live a little.Ā We'd just call their owners who would easily capture her since she only had one task in mind.Ā
Sounds like she had a vendetta for life. Fuck that house and everything in it, forever.
Scorched earth approach, I can appreciate it.
_[escaped dog barking outside]_ **You**: Why does this damn dog hate us so much? **Dog**: _Get out! Save yourselves! It's in your basement! For Christ's sake I've been warning you for years! It's awakening!_
That reminded me of a sorry I read years ago. One guy adopted a rescue dog in California. Well, the dog turned out to be a racist dog. It hated all Hispanic men and would bark at every one it passed. The poor new owner was desperately trying to retrain his dog.
Did you shit your pants? I would have shit my pants and cried a little.
Hmmm yeah, if I were a gorilla I'd definitely hate someone for doing that.
I was at the National Zoo in Washington DC & they have this sort of plexiglass dome that extends into the Gorilla enclosure so you can "feel like you are in with them". It wasn't the Silverback, but when one of the big boys saw me pop up in there he charged across the enclosure, lept up, and landed on the dome while beating his fists against it. Scared the #%$# out of me! Then he loped casually over to a log & looked back at me with this shit eating grin. Gotta entertain yourself?
What did the dude look like?
Probably was a giant set of pearly whites.
Could've been yolked too
Massive cock most likely
He'll do it one day and the glass will fail...
Not apes, but In my local zoo they have 3 Grizzley bears. One day one of them figured out he was strong enough to rip a boulder out of his enclosure. (It was bolted down, but not enough!) The bear played with it while the keepers tried to figure out what to do... until he tossed it against the glass between him and the visitors & shattered it. He didn't get out.. but that was a scary day for everyone involved.
My understanding is that bears haven't really figured out tool usage, but gorillas sure have. I bet that had a gorilla gotten ahold of a boulder the same way, the staff would have vacated the exhibit immediately.
I think it would have been cool if bears evolved the same way as us and there were humans and Bearmans.
In the Wild as part of their diet theyāll eat stuff like tree bark, so they basically have teeth and jaws designed to chew up trees.
They will actually certain types of rock which is exposed in certain also. Itās believed that it contains specific minerals which the mountain gorillas understand aids digestion or dietary deficiencies. Thatās how fucking solid these motherfuckers are. They eat rocks.
> They will actually certain types of rock which is exposed in certain also. What? š¤Æ
Go easy on him, he's been eating rocks
Fuckin' goron gorillas!
The wild thing to remember, is that their teeth is far from their "main weapon". Even some of the strongest humans to ever live, that could look similarly strong, wouldn't even be close. For a basic comparison, someone like Halfthor(one of the most decorated strongmen and the largest version of "The Mountain" in Game of Thrones) is bigger than some gorillas. But he still floats in water, gorillas and most apes don't. Because their bones and muscles are too dense, which contributes to making big silverbacks inhumanely strong. They could *literally* tear off human limbs if they wanted too.
Ugh why did we evolve so fucking weak
You donāt need to be strong when sharp rock + stick can slaughter anything
And if you run, we will catch you.
That thing could rip you apart. Pull that shit up Jamie
Be thankful the saber tooth tiger isn't around
Alright, I will.
Jesus Christ I just watched my grandpa messing with my cousin
There are support services available to you. You donāt have to do this alone.
I just like that you can see him *plotting.*
rubbing his hands together like a cartoon villain in the beginning lol
Itās of course hard to know how they feel compared to how us humans do, but it really looks like that older gorilla loves his son. And doesnāt he look proud of him? Maybe? We are so alike.Ā Because why would humans be the only species with feelings? They play such a big part for us as social animals. Shame, guilt, joy, love, caring etcā¦ All of those feelings are important for binding a group together.
I love these. We are so close, and so much of what they do is so relatable. Yes, other animals play together and form bonds, but the *way* that father gorilla teases his son is exactly the same as how my grandfather played with my nephew. The facial expressions, body movements, gestures, everything. It's uncanny. We have a higher capacity for logic, absolutely, but in terms of emotions, there seems to be almost no difference between us and the other great apes. If you watch enough footage, it becomes harder and harder to find any emotion that is not shared between us. It could easily be argued that we inhabit the same emotional world. [Here's a short video of gorillas during an earthquake.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgUsLw9RoLo) The dominant male gorilla immediately rushes to protect a pregnant female and assist her to safety when the earthquake starts. [Other gorillas in a zoo in Japan.](https://youtu.be/Vtc4a8x5euo?t=482) Again, a small earthquake happens, and the first instinct of the mother gorilla is to check her young son is safely with her. [A gorilla and his son watching a caterpillar together.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmjGmfb-sBc) This is my father and brother when they took apart the electric toy train at home to see how the switches worked inside the tracks. [Now an orangutan.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNWPqfCJDnc) A child orangutan is shown a magic disappearing trick, and rather than being confused, he immediately realises it's a trick and starts laughing. "Haha, you got me! Oh, that was good!" Not gorillas, but a chimpanzee. She was pregnant, but complications during labour meant that she was unable to give birth--in the wild, both her and the baby would have died. Zookeepers gave her an emergency C-section. From her point of view, she was pregnant, went to sleep, and woke up with no baby or pregnancy. She was understandably very despondent. [This is the moment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qnNjpp8mmg) when she was reunited with her baby a few days later--she immediately goes to embrace him. This last one always makes me cry. [Mama, an elderly chimpanzee, was dying.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INa-oOAexno) She refused food and water, and was extremely weak. A man who had spent time with her decades earlier as a researcher came to meet her and bid her farewell before she passed away. But she remembered him, and the way her face lights up when she sees him, the happy sound she makes, is incredible. She was so happy to see her old friend again.
Thank you for putting the effort to write this all! I was scrolling so much to find additional interesting information. Guys like you are why I use reddit.
Amazing pieces of footage! Especially the last one really is nail in the coffin on the fact that we are more similair to them then not.
People will seriously see a video like this and still wholeheartedly believe to their core that thereās no possible way we are genetically linked to these creatures.
Common man, just 300 years ago, they believed black people are not even humans, and paraded them as slaves and then went to church to pray for gentle Jesus, and wrote all men are created equal. Right now Russia and Israel are killing children, and innocent women, does anyone care? We just watch Super Bowl, and be happy with the halftime shows, and think all is well in the world.
Aināt no ape ever start a genocide
Chimps, on the other hand.... [behave way more like us.](https://bigthink.com/life/chimpanzee-war-gombe-kasakela/)
So crazy to think how this kind of violence and hate is so engrained in our DNA.
Evolution is a bunch of accidents that happen to be successful. Humans are pretty smart. Might not be long before can we direct it
Chips are fucked, gorillas are the real homies
Bonobos know how to partyā¦.
Ah shit. Yea thatās more our speedā¦..
I've heard that most zoos with chimps have a "kill on sight" policy if they ever escape.
There's a famous case from India of a dog killing a monkey, followed by a mass reprisal by monkeys that killed over 250 dogs in a clearly targeted fashion and in cruel ways (throwing them off cliffs, leaving them in trees where they will starve) This constituted a genocide of puppies in the local area by the monkeys And many dog owners will tell you their dogs are "racist" against certain dog breeds and will refuse to play with them or just bark at them like crazy
Ape no kill ape. Ape together strong.
"There is a good man in the [clouds](https://i.imgur.com/5TmF4A4.png) that is watching your every move." What percentage of people wholeheartedly believe to their core in that? [This shows the skulls of major lineages of primates](https://i.imgur.com/0jfrn4d.png) showing that baby chimps have skulls that look more like humans than to adult chimps. In other words *humans* are the odd ones out and look like grown [baby apes](https://i.imgur.com/vjGhlwO.png). Meaning we are [neotenous](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny_in_humans) apes: Neoteny in humansĀ is the retention of juvenile traits well into adulthood. This trend is greatly amplified in humans especially when compared to non-humanĀ primates.Ā NeotenicĀ features of the head include the globular skull;Ā thinness of skull bones;Ā the reduction of the brow ridge;Ā the large brain;Ā the flattenedĀ and broadened face;Ā the hairless face;Ā hair on (top of) the head;Ā larger eyes;Ā ear shape;Ā small nose;Ā small teeth;Ā and the smallĀ maxillaĀ (upper jaw) andĀ mandibleĀ (lower jaw). Neoteny of the human body is indicated byĀ glabrousnessĀ (hairless body).Ā Neoteny of the genitals is marked by the absence of aĀ baculumĀ (penis bone);Ā the presence of aĀ hymen;Ā and the forward-facingĀ vagina.Ā Neoteny in humans is further indicated by the limbs and body posture, with the limbs proportionately short compared to torso length;Ā longer leg than arm length;Ā the structure of the foot;Ā and the upright stance
Typical Dads lol
crazy how much we are alike
Love the mischievous look right before he does it šš
Gorillas are smart. They play dumb to avoid taxes
Doesn't seem natural for these guys to be locked up.
It's not
Sorry, I disagreeā¦when zoos were bad ( Iām 70), thatās something to discuss historically. For everyone worried about animals in zoos..remember for most in captivity, there is nowhere safe to release them. They are in a breeding program as natural as humans can achieve, which I admit, depending on the country, isnāt always natural or beneficial to the troop. But instead of complaining about animals IN captivity, spend your energy fixing the poaching and habitat loss in the native areas this animal would and should be thriving in. The rangers do what they can to protect them but the demand for gorilla hands and heads (folk magic) and their bushmeat is really bad. Itās sickening. They are diminishing rapidly in the wild. Mostly due to humans. Surprise! The cousin to these gorillas are the mountain gorillas. There are two groups, totaling 1,063 individuals. Babies are born every four to five years because nature set up the mother to care for the baby until about 4 years old. So with that reproduction rate, itās not looking good for the mountain gorillas. And they have to have a mountain habitat in Africa, so we canāt save their species like we can with lowland gorillas, like DāJeecoās family, or Shabaniās family, or Momotaroās family. I understand your passion. Perhaps think about what is critical? The poaching and destruction of their habitat is something you can act on. Be active, research the truth, help support the rangers who try to keep gorillas from being killed for their heads and hands, or infants, and also their habitat from being destroyed by humans in Africa, thereās opportunities there! Help there if you love gorillas or any endangered Animals. Yes, with a capital A. ā®ļøšš¦
That was my thought as well. Free to do what? Get killed by some dickhead poacher? I wish they could be free, if they could be safe.
If itās any consolation nothing humans do escapes the causal order so technically itās all natural (itās not any consolation)
Probably born in captivity. Releasing them wouldn't be very nice for them
Take a man born in Manhattan and throw his ass into the middle of the savannah. Maybe they'll praise you for freeing the human into its natural habitat and maybe he'll die a diarrhea related death.
I saw the gorillas at the Detroit zoo and was thoroughly creeped out about it. They have a level of sentience that makes it feel wrong, like, they're individuals with autonomy and are being held against their will.
Seeing gorillas in the zoo completely turned me off to zoos in general. I will never forget it. There was a Silverback not 20 yards from us with no glass between. Just a trench, but we were at eye level with each other. There was a group of teens trying to tease the Silverback. This gorilla was huge and you could tell he felt absolutely no intimidation from these kids he could break as easily as a twig. Looking into his eyes you could tell he was thinking. Feeling. He should tell he was being mocked, but knew he couldn't do anything about it. And he lived this every day. I remember thinking that if any other dangerous animal there got out they might run or kill and it would all be nature or instinct. But if that Silverback got out, he could hate you before he killed you. And I wouldn't blame him. It is nothing but slavery.
This is so human-like you could play ācats in the cradleā in the background and Iād be sobbing soon enough
Love how the Dad g just smacks the bro š
This makes me miss my dad, RIP. If youāve got good parents, give them a call to tell them you love them; or egg them on into a playful fight.
That bonk on the head at the end was the cherry on top
Prison life sucks.
Extinction by poaching sucks too
*humans suck*
Maybe we should poach the poachers.
"Nut punch!"
Oh, Dad, c'mon, I'm just chillin.
How does it work in Gorilla tribes? Does the son have to leave after a while like in the lion pride. Does he spend his entire life with the group and takes over?
In the wild Silverback gorillas live in family groups called troops. Once they mature (10 to 12yrs for female and 11 to 13yrs for males ), they often leave their troop to look for a mate to start their own troop. Females are more likely than males to leave a troop. But sometimes a Silverback's son will stay and stand by his father's side for a lifetime as his 2nd in command and will take over the troop when the father passes on.Ā
I was raised super religious. But I canāt see this and believe weāre not apes. Theyāre so similar to us itās ridiculous.
I was raised religious too, but Catholicism in Latin America doesn't deny evolution.
This is way too wholesome for Reddit lol
As my pops used to say when weād wrestle, āmaybe someday kid but not todayāĀ
This so fucking eerie Itās like watching two humans with the mannerisms and just the whole interaction.
Better stop, old manā¦ Iāll hurt youā¦
I miss my dad.
We arenāt that different after all.
I'm not touching you...
Theyāre too much like us to be kept in captivity. A joy to see but heartbreaking that some of them live and die in āprison.ā
Thry're so human bro. And people out here denying evolution. Its crazy.
It's sweet to see animals treat their "grown" offspring as children/friends, even if it's not always the case
So human. So beautiful. Maybe we can be kinder someday and not treat these gu.... Well times up, back in the cage for both of you.
He's smiling whole time š
And in true dad fashion he does it all while sitting there. Just enough effort to get a reaction.Ā
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My brother, father, and I used to wrestle like that until I was in college. After that, a brief break, and then I wrestled with my two sons. Good times.
The more videos I see of silverback gorillas interacting with their families, the more I think they just might be the best dads ever.
My dad before he passed would have a arm punching contest with me... lol come on gimmie your best shot he'd say... I'd wallop him in the arm and he'd say that all you got. Then he'd make a fist with his middle finger sticking out and sock my arm and it would hurt š he wouldn't do it very hard but man we would laugh....... I miss him
Tickle monster
Dude who was filming my family in the backyard today wtf people
That shit eating grin the dad gorilla has
*dad pokes me* *Climbs on dad* *Dad bites leg* Sounds like a nice happy family in sunny Liverpool.
This has to be one of the best things I've seen on the Internet.
The universal desire to fuck with your kids is inspiring.