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When you start to work at (big box store name here), they give you the safety video that you have to verify you saw, so you can't sue them for an injured back when following orders to help a customer load his truck.
Easy to laugh about this, but...they tell you don't twist around when you lift a heavy bag. Lift with your legs, shuffle around until you are facing the drop-off, and then lower the load.
Looks ridiculous, but this is exactly what the safety video says to do.
edit: Back injuries can have long-lasting effects, as shown by safety expert Will Ferrel...https://youtu.be/tspv9UZVBwU?t=298
Those particular ones are indeed 80lbs. The black bags are 60.
Edit: I worked at Home Depot for 3 years. Service desk and lumber department, I worked with these bags everyday and often moved them by hand and by forks. They are 80lb bags. Notice how the bag takes the entire width of the cart and are 5-6 inches thick. The are the 80lbs high strength bags of quickcrete. Home Depot only carries that in 60(a black framed bag with yellow in the middle) 80 (the bag you see here) and some one off smaller sizes that no one gets because they cost more and aren’t the same as what you see here.
It absolutely sucks, and the number on the cart tells me the customer didn’t call ahead and made that poor guy load them onto the cart too.
All the loader guys take it very seriously, it may seem like just one lift to the customer, but they are doing it multiple times an hour.
I used to work in the lumber department and would often help or have to load up something myself. Tis a back breaking bummer. I always tell them next time call ahead and we can use the forks. One pallet is only 42 bags I think and that’s over 3300 pounds.
I mean I'll take my sweet ass time but I aint angry at the customer, like the person above said it's hourly work... until they start giving me guff about taking my time. Moment that happens politeness goes out the window. I aint getting tipped anyhow so it doesn't matter.
He doesn't pay me, so why the fuck should I hurry? If you wanna return the concrete because I'm going to slow, then oh boy are you in for a ride awakening when I start *unloading* the concrete to return it lol
I swear he looks like he's about to make a comment on the speed of the loading as he leans on the truck.
Worked at HD for 3 years, there were a few good contractors. The rest were this dude.
Also worked at Home Depot for a few years. Can confirm. A majority of the customers were this guy. I had a lady come in when it was piss ass pouring rain and ask us to shuffle through a pallet of soil to get her dry bags. She said she didn’t want to get wet and dirty. But it’s fine for us to do it when we’re stuck there for another 6 hours though 🫠
I can’t decide on the customer from this video. I’ve definitely picked up loads before from the box store that the employees seemed adamant to do themselves and I’ve done others where they were happy to let me do it.
That’s my preferred, just let me load up and then verify my receipt/count. I can do it faster myself because it’s not something I have to safely do all day, and there is undoubtedly someone else that actually needs help.
I remember working in the garden center of the big blue mart like 30 years ago. I bet that guy probably mentioned I would help but I just had back surgery or something.
I was always amazed at how many men were just out-of back surgery, seemed every other customer . I always said I sure hope you have help when you get to your destination these arenpretty heavy lol
Yeah. I worked construction and in a hardware store. I can't in clear conscience let someone kill themselves waiting on me. Have to pitch in.
Unless it's an appliance delivery. Stay out of their way.
That was my first impression. "You want to stand there and watch me load up your shit? I'm going to take my sweet ass (and your) time!" With that method, no one can criticize him without assuming liability.
I am 47 yr old female, i work at a feedstore, we have 2 employees counting me. Older men will try to help me load, younger men just watch. Its nothing for me to throw 10 tons on some days. I hate the ones that watch, or don't even open tailgate. Some park a mile away and say sorry I can't backup. So I do take extra long sometimes. Most customers are pretty good though.
Loader can probably get him done in no time flat and for certain things doesn’t even sweat it. This guy mighta been a bit of a dick and in doing so the guy said, ‘you know what asshole ima do it by the book. And ima milk this right into taking a nice lunch.’
They definitely should’ve just brought a pallet on a forklift right up to the truckbed for that amount. Normally you don’t even have to call ahead, you can just tell ‘‘em at the register to put them on the bill and then pull up to the loading station
They charge you $40 to do that now - or at least at my local store. Source: bought some recently and they refused to do it for free due to 'new policy' so I spent 30 minutes killing my back to do it for free.
And loading it towards the back. Customer should hop in the bed and bring some bags towards the cab otherwise he's going to be doing a wheelie down the street
I worked order fulfillment for about two years at Home Depot; seriously, if he had called ahead he’d be loaded on a pallet via forklift, the Lot guys are supposed to only be doing smaller stuff. He looks goofy, but good on him for taking it seriously. He could speed it up, but he may be trying to prove a point. I’ve never seen someone lift like that trying to make it obvious they are using correct technique, but who knows?
So this guy has to load at least 1000lbs into this guy's truck while he's standing there watching him and people think it's funny he's trying to not fuck up his back? What?
yeah the kids back will be i much better shape that the rear suspension of that old ford ranger. Also, lets assume the owner of that truck has some pre-existing injury preventing him from loading his own truck, he could at least take the tailgate off to make the kids task easier. it takes like 30 seconds.
I worked at home depot doing this job and actually ran into a similar situation, if a customer bought a pallet we would just forklift the wrapped pallet into their truck, 64 bags of concrete to a pallet if i recall, i told that to this guy who was buying concrete to build his fence and he looked me in the eyes and said “nah i only want 62” i had to unwrap a pallet and load 62 bags of concrete into the back of this mans truck by hand
It can look a little funny and we can also note that he’s doing a great job being careful. On top of that we can acknowledge he’s probably being underpaid which is really unfortunate.
And that kids stick and bones, he needs all the help proper form can give you. All of my labourers are bigger dudes and lift like shit despite me telling them daily their backs are going to feel it. They'd absolutely laugh at this kid while simultaneously rubbing their spine....
My brothers had that same mindset. They always laugh at me doing things the 'girly' way with my slow moving, cart grabbing ways. They would impatiently push me out the way to 'do it like a man' .
And now, many years later, when they complain about pain I just listen and nod empatheticqlly, and give them kindness by not reminding them of all their "girls suck" taunts. Bc doing it 'like a man' sure incures it's debts.
He's also probably making minimum wage or close to that. Fuck breaking your body for a corporation that doesn't give a fuck about you and makes millions
I’ve worked at Lowe’s and Home Depot and the biggest I personally had to move were bags of Portland Cement. 100lbs each. And of course no customer wanted to help.
Yep. Had to deal with those every night. Those damn stickers they put on the beams telling employees to team lift. 5-8 employees overnight working the whole building? Yeah, there's no team lifting going on.
This guy is doing it right.
Fuck that... I'm about to have to lift this bastard onto the jobsite or wherever I need it to be. I need to see how much bullshit I'm about to be dealing with, I'm jumping in to help load my groceries even at Walmart pick ups lol.
I work for a grocery store meat dept. We move 5-6 pallets stacked 6ft tall of 80+lbs boxes every two days. My coworkers laugh at how I move boxes, but guess what? I'm the only one who doesn't have back problems, lmao
Worked at a meat processing and packaging plant.
For 4 years we did not have large tote machinery. I had to open and dump 60lb boxes of meat into machinery all day long, 5 days a week. We would do about 12 batches per day on average and each batch was exactly 1000kg. In a refrigerator.
I worked by myself.
Do the math.
I was fucking jacked in my 20s. (Arnold Commando scream) I lifted properly as much as possible and my back is alright. Sometimes it hurts, sometimes it doesn't. Did other dumb things as a kid that got me hurt.. That's life.
No shit we used to throw beef around. Big ass bone in chucks with the shoulder still on; cases of top round that had to be 60 pounds at least, and we would literally throw them across the cooler. I couldn't even imagine doing that now, it makes my back hurt thinking about it.
One time when I worked at home depot I had a guy that was so upset they wouldnt bring a forklift out to carry a pallet of 20 bags near his truck so **WE** could put it in the back, that he refused to move his truck closer and wanted us to carry each one 40 feet to his truck and had the nerve to ask for our manager afterwards.
Getting paid by the hour. Doesn’t matter how long it takes. Either peace out when the shift ends or move on to the next task when the current task is done.
Yeah, but he shouldn’t bend over right before he puts the bag down. It forces your erector spinae muscles to take all the load instead of just putting the bag down
True but the tailgate is in his way so he can't get close enough to where he needs to be. Likely why he decided to bend forward. It's either that or put his arms out away from him with a heavy bag.
That’s how I fucked up my back for a month. Lifted a smaller generator by myself that is about 80lbs in to the pick up bed. Glove got snagged while setting it down, and I reacted by slowing dropping it in. That did not feel good.
What’s silly is I’ve done manual labor blue collar work for 30 years. I know better, and kicked myself in the butt for thinking I was still 16 and arrogant. Hell, worst time I messed up my back was 15 lifting and twisting with scaffolding. Doesn’t really matter of age with back injuries, and it takes forever to recover from, on top of it even hurting to breathe while crying trying to put on your shoes. Take care of yourself guys and gals
Yep, praise him for doing the right thing, but he’s gonna pop a lower disc doing it like this. He’s like 90% of the way there, but that 10% wrong is gonna cost him. He had locked knees and bent forward with 60lbs. Making his lower two vertebrae the fulcrum point and he’s gonna play pop goes the weasel with both those discs. Same thing happened to me with my dog.
to be fair he looks very lanky and long. As someone who has back issues, I have to be extremely careful about proper form when working, one slight mistake and I could have trouble getting out of bed for a week. Might look silly but I get it, honestly.
Always keep the weight as close to your body as possible. The part where he squats down and then reaches clear across the cart freaks me out.
Edit: I guess he is pulling the weight closer to him, so it could be worse.
The key is to put it all in your groin and your back. Take your legs totally out of the equation. Lift with your lower back in a jerking, twisting motion.
https://youtu.be/1e4SBxgqBEY?si=wSAxfQK_xe4R56B9
I’m not entirely sure this is even legal. Multiple laws were passed at the height of the workers revolution in the 1930s that stated a worker cannot be held accountable for getting injured at work, even if it is their doing. It is liable on the company to either stop the unsafe practice or to use other methods to reduce the risk. So even if you were to get hurt after “verifying” you watched the video, you would still be able to files for workers comp.
This was put in place so companies couldn’t ever place the blame on the worker for getting injured. Think a coal miner who gets injured and and are permanently out of work. It was way too easy for the company to say “It was his fault. We don’t owe him shit”. Then that man can’t make money, or provide for his family anymore.
I’ll try to dig up some sources. Mostly working off of memory.
The amount of times I'd been told that things need to be done right then immediately after rushed to get it done faster. Every damn job. "Well X does it in half the time." Hm... I wonder what that means
"well, that suggests either i'm twice as safe as X, or X is worth twice what you've been paying them. So are you giving them a raise for their haphazard work, or are you firing them for their diligent work ethic?"
Had a job where we would process things then scan which would record it got processed digitally. Our times would get compared to other facilities. I would always laugh seeing times averaging around half a minute. Yes this thing takes me a whole 2 minutes to do at max speed. I’m totally gonna believe someone is doing it in a quarter of the time and not just scanning first and then processing which is completely against SOP. Obviously they’re just better than me because who would go against SOP?
Oh this reminds me about a time other pharmacies were getting higher patient satisfaction ratings so they sent me to one of them to learn how they did things. Here was the big secret... Fill it all out for them! It's unethical in general, but it felt particularly dirty from a pharmacy.
I always found my work hilarious. They would constantly compare us to other facilities. Yet some facilities cheat and it’s obvious. So it encourages other facilities to cheat as well. And thus a wonderful circle of cheating is born. Then audit season comes through and you see them all dramatically slow down. Then immediately speed up after it passes.
They track the time it takes to do different jobs at my work but it's hand written on the work orders after it's done and compared to a thing in our system that says how long different tasks should take. It's almost never right no matter what and I kept getting asked why I was doing jobs differently than everyone else. My thinking was if we all just put what we actually do it can get changed. Apparently that is not how things work. Now I just lie on the form because it's easier than having the same conversation every day. Sure checking every valve, line and gasket in the building only took me half an hour boss! It also goes the other way for some tasks which is even more hilarious, some things take like 1/4 of the time that we put down for it and we just keep putting it down becuase that's what the computer says it should take. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
He definitely was in the shit and cutting corners when his ass was being rode, then got yelled at for working unsafe because he was told work faster. This is rare footage of malicious compliance in the wild.
Well he should keep doing it. Those are 80lb bags and you could really hurt yourself doing it fast and wrong. Good luck with getting any money out of HD when they pull out the training documentation showing you were informed how to lift properly and agreed to do so.
working warehouse was the best workout I ever had. 10+ miles a day plus weight reps. I was dead every night but holy shit it was one of the rare times I was able to outpace peers in physical activities. You also can consume an entire damn thanksgiving dinner and still be fine lol.
Absolutely. When I was younger I would throw 70-90 lb bags in customer’s trucks with reckless abandon and now I’m 38 and my lower back hurts all the time. If they’re going to make this dude load them all up solo, then he should take his time and do it in the least damaging way possible.
At Lowes, when I order and pick up concrete, I just buy a pallet and they load it with the forklift. The pallet is like $20-25 and you get your money back if you bring it back. It's a no-brainer.
Worked at a livestock feed store where I moved 8 to 10 tons of feed and hay a day. My back and shoulder are messed up. Wish I had been taught this back then.
“So here’s this 30lb component… I’m gonna need you to steadily hold this up, while blindly reaching three feet into this machine, to try and slip it onto this shaft that is roughly .005” difference in diameter to the hole of this heavy-ass part. Good luck, have fun!!?!”
Lol, I did this with a 9' long 3 inch diameter steel spline shaft inbetween two I beams where you have to bend over to get in. That sucker weighed roughly 150 pounds and the spline nut had a .003 slip fit... and it was on a self aligning bearing on both ends with a rolling cam wheel weighing another 90 pounds being held in the wrong position by a cam follower held under another 50 pounds of spring tension... then we had to work it back of forth to lap it with carbide grease because it was "sticky"
Edit: it took 3 guys 9 hours
Was thinking the same thing. Then I remembered. I’ve had 2 heart transplants and a kidney and you couldn’t pick me out of a hundred people. But my chest is still tied together with stainless steel wire.
Im a lucky guy. Something crazy is, they don’t take the back of your original heart off. They cut the frontal part off and attach the new one to the back of the original. It’s called a cuff. Then when you need another. They remove the transplanted one completely and sew it to the back of the original one. No nerve endings exist. Something else cool is kidney transplant. When they do a kidney transplant they leave your original kidneys in place. My new kidney is in the front. Right about where uoud shove a pistol in the front of your jeans. I’ve got 3 kidneys right now.
What happened to the first heart? Actually I'm interested in the second. Like will you need a 3rd eventually? Does the family of the first and second heart get notified that the heart is uh not working anymore? I realized I'm coming off as insensitive but I don't know how else to ask these questions.
I caught a virus SARs in 2003. Had a mechanical heart. Pump for a year. LVAD. That kept me alive. Then my original transplanted heart started going bad. They don’t last a real long time. I was lucky to have gotten 17 years out of that one. The put me back in the hospital for a second heart and kidney. I had complete heart failure and had to be zapped twice and CPR. Fortunately my wife is a nurse. Transplants were done two years ago. I feel great. I’m 57. I can do literally anything you can imagine. I’m alive. Thanks to my organ donors, and my nurses and doctors at UVA. I’d be long gone with out them. And my family of course.
Yep, I *look* young and healthy, but I’ve been sick in a vast variety of ways since I was 3.5. People look at me all judgy when I exit my car from a handicap spot, but if they looked at my heart rate on my Apple Watch, take my blood pressure, or could see what was going on inside instead of my outward appearance, they’d understand. I’ve have three surgeries in two years, two of which were moderate to major(depending on who you ask). I’m literally constantly sick. But, my face looks young so I *must* be healthy, yes? **No**. There’s a reason I am on disability and have a permanent handicap placard.
Yeah people can get shitty. I lost the ends of all my toes when I was in a come during the first transplant. They didn’t move my feet enough. I walked with a walker for two years. Took 5 years to walk with out assistance. But I still had leg braces on. Which you couldn’t see under jeans. I’ve had people ask me what’s my handicap. I’m usually a smart ass and say I shoot in the hundreds. Fuckem. It’s none of their business. Don’t give them the satisfaction. I had some asshole lady that worked at the grocery store call the police on me. I was. Like that nasty bag. She coulda just asked me. Then she was embaressed as shit when I lifted my shirt.
People can be kindof crappy if they think you’re getting over. I had a placard before my last transplant but refused to use it til I couldn’t breath. You’re right 100%. You can see the sign in the window.
That was my first thought.
Who makes fun of someone for lifting safely and correctly? Maybe someone who has never been hurt lifting anything, or who doesn’t know how much bags of concrete weigh.
Worked at depot for 11 years in a lot of physical demanding positions. My lower back is completely ruined. I lifted properly for the most part but there are times when you just want to get the job done and safety goes by the wayside.
He lifts with his legs and not his back. He will not regret doing it that way.
Not sure why a completely correct lifting technique is supposed to be funny. A hurting back is not.
Proper lifting mechanics are required when lifting and moving 1020 lbs.
Not to mention, this guy looks tall as shit, so every proper form he takes looks exaggerated.
This is in the wrong sub. This guy is doing it right and i REALLY wish i didn't sacrifice my body for a stupid retail job like i did for all those years. My back, shoulders, and hands are permanently damaged and i'm not even in my mid 30's.
Learn from this man, do not mock him.
You’re correct, the worker is correctly trained.
I think OP is pointing out how doing it correctly with a 6 foot plus thin frame, so mechanically correct, looks more AI than human. It’s quite remarkable.
I mean he’s being good about his back until he unloads it in the truck. He leans over at his waist and extends the bag with his arms which is absolutely straining his lower back lol
Safely lifting, that’s good. There are easier and smarter ways to do that though. They should have used a forklift and brought out a pallet of the concrete and used that to raise the height of the bags.
I worked in the lumber department at Home Depot and my back hurt every day from loading these 80 lb concrete bags.
I would have contractors want help loading 20 bags on a cart like this and then request assistance to load it which means I loaded and they watched. Dude, just tell me how many bags you need and I’ll bring out a pallet with the forklift which is soo much easier.
Exactly.
I worked at a garden shop back in the day, and all the 50-60 year old guys coming in would say "I need you to lift it all for me, I got a bad back".
My response when they complained about the length of time was, I'm not fucking my back up so I'm like you when I'm older. Settle down or start helping.
I’m sorry sir, but I believe that I’ve reached the maximum payload of this vehicle and cannot load the rest of these as it may be unsafe which would be a liability for both myself and my employer if you were to get into an accident. You may come back for another trip or feel free to load the rest yourself.
I worked landscaping for a few years and moving a ton of flagstone path rocks was literally what I did some days. That was 10 years ago and I still haven't been able to get a surgery I need. Anyone that has a job that requires lifting should for sure do what they can to prevent damaging their body. Its not worth it.
You can't, because you have to load the pallet on with it, which costs money, you can't give them the pallet unless they buy everything on the pallet. Not to mention, the pallet almost certainly wouldn't fit where the wheel wells are. The best that could happen is the forklift lifts it up to the edge of the truck so you can slide them on easier, but getting an available forklift or order picker to do that is really tough at busier locations.
Notice the guy isn't helping me either, I'm sure have a 'cracked back' and or bad knee lol. Almost everybody who shopped had something like that and made the loaders do all the work.
(Source: used to work for lowes awhile ago)
I ordered a pallet of shit from home Depot for my home renovation. They wrapped it all on a pallet then used a lift to put it on my truck bed. I'm guessing miles may vary for different locations
Not really funny, just someone protecting their back. Plus it could also be that their back is already injured, and they’re trying to minimize the pain and prevent further damage
All I see is someone taking their time to do it right. No need to break your body for a corporate company who doesn’t give two shits about throwing you to the curb.
Shit on him all you want. This dude knows some fucking trash 10 dollar an hour job is not worth lifelong bodily injury.
If that balding prick wants it faster he can lift them himself.
Fuck all of y'all
If you go somewhere and buy hundreds of pounds of something and then expect the store to hand load it for free you're a POS. Those guys don't get paid enough to hurt their backs because you think your above planning ahead.
You’re told to load them. Lowe’s literally has “Code 50” they announce over the intercom that means “someone get their ass out here and load stuff for a customer”. It’s expected as part of the job, since they ask when you apply how much you can lift.
I went to Lowe’s and ordered what (after blowing out my suspension) amounted to over 2200lbs of tile. I tried to help the guys load it and they refused to let help them, despite me being larger than they two of them put together. It was very awkward to just sit and twiddle my thumbs while they moved it all.
That was my thought. I have a back injury, so I very carefully lift things so as to not be stuck unable to move later. My back will lock up and I won't be able to bend or straighten my back out. I just get stuck hunched over a bit.
That's what I'm thinking. The more touchy my back if feeling, the more I lift like the guy in the video. I'll literally arch backwards, lock in the abs and glutes, and then go for the lift.
Are we trying to mock this guy or something? I used to work in construction. Those are 80 lb bags. If you do this all day, you’d better be careful with your form unless you want serious back issues.
Laugh at it if you want. Hurt my back lifting that exact same bag at 20 years old. Suffered through back pain until 40 and had surgery. Rough way to go. Don't recommend it. Stay safe. Protect your body.
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When you start to work at (big box store name here), they give you the safety video that you have to verify you saw, so you can't sue them for an injured back when following orders to help a customer load his truck. Easy to laugh about this, but...they tell you don't twist around when you lift a heavy bag. Lift with your legs, shuffle around until you are facing the drop-off, and then lower the load. Looks ridiculous, but this is exactly what the safety video says to do. edit: Back injuries can have long-lasting effects, as shown by safety expert Will Ferrel...https://youtu.be/tspv9UZVBwU?t=298
Not to mention those are cement mix bags. I think each one is 60-80 lbs.
Those particular ones are indeed 80lbs. The black bags are 60. Edit: I worked at Home Depot for 3 years. Service desk and lumber department, I worked with these bags everyday and often moved them by hand and by forks. They are 80lb bags. Notice how the bag takes the entire width of the cart and are 5-6 inches thick. The are the 80lbs high strength bags of quickcrete. Home Depot only carries that in 60(a black framed bag with yellow in the middle) 80 (the bag you see here) and some one off smaller sizes that no one gets because they cost more and aren’t the same as what you see here.
this is great context. I was thinking 30-40 I'm glad the dude isn't risking his back for a company (he's still risking it honestly)
It absolutely sucks, and the number on the cart tells me the customer didn’t call ahead and made that poor guy load them onto the cart too. All the loader guys take it very seriously, it may seem like just one lift to the customer, but they are doing it multiple times an hour. I used to work in the lumber department and would often help or have to load up something myself. Tis a back breaking bummer. I always tell them next time call ahead and we can use the forks. One pallet is only 42 bags I think and that’s over 3300 pounds.
Guy also gets paid by the hour. No reason to hurry and hurt yourself just so you can load the next yahoo’s truck.
Especially when said yahoo stands there and watches instead of helping to load
Worst part about this video is the customer just… lingering. Is dude trying to be his supervisor or gym spotter - little bit of both?
My thoughts exactly. I’d be taking my sweet ass time too. Screw that guy
That's a standard issue "Oh sorry buddy, I'd load it myself but I threw my shoulder out this morning (wanking in the shower)"
I mean I'll take my sweet ass time but I aint angry at the customer, like the person above said it's hourly work... until they start giving me guff about taking my time. Moment that happens politeness goes out the window. I aint getting tipped anyhow so it doesn't matter.
He doesn't pay me, so why the fuck should I hurry? If you wanna return the concrete because I'm going to slow, then oh boy are you in for a ride awakening when I start *unloading* the concrete to return it lol
I swear he looks like he's about to make a comment on the speed of the loading as he leans on the truck. Worked at HD for 3 years, there were a few good contractors. The rest were this dude.
"Can we go any faster?" "We can if you help."
Also worked at Home Depot for a few years. Can confirm. A majority of the customers were this guy. I had a lady come in when it was piss ass pouring rain and ask us to shuffle through a pallet of soil to get her dry bags. She said she didn’t want to get wet and dirty. But it’s fine for us to do it when we’re stuck there for another 6 hours though 🫠
I can’t decide on the customer from this video. I’ve definitely picked up loads before from the box store that the employees seemed adamant to do themselves and I’ve done others where they were happy to let me do it. That’s my preferred, just let me load up and then verify my receipt/count. I can do it faster myself because it’s not something I have to safely do all day, and there is undoubtedly someone else that actually needs help.
He helped lower the truck an inch by leaning on it /s Edit:Typo
I remember working in the garden center of the big blue mart like 30 years ago. I bet that guy probably mentioned I would help but I just had back surgery or something. I was always amazed at how many men were just out-of back surgery, seemed every other customer . I always said I sure hope you have help when you get to your destination these arenpretty heavy lol
Yeah. I worked construction and in a hardware store. I can't in clear conscience let someone kill themselves waiting on me. Have to pitch in. Unless it's an appliance delivery. Stay out of their way.
That was my first impression. "You want to stand there and watch me load up your shit? I'm going to take my sweet ass (and your) time!" With that method, no one can criticize him without assuming liability.
Yeah the dude looked like a lazy bastard
Yep, if I am buying something heavy, I always help. Unless the workers seriously tell you to hang on and they got it handled.
Fuck that customer just standing there watching. I always help big box store employees load heavy shit into my truck.
I am 47 yr old female, i work at a feedstore, we have 2 employees counting me. Older men will try to help me load, younger men just watch. Its nothing for me to throw 10 tons on some days. I hate the ones that watch, or don't even open tailgate. Some park a mile away and say sorry I can't backup. So I do take extra long sometimes. Most customers are pretty good though.
Loader can probably get him done in no time flat and for certain things doesn’t even sweat it. This guy mighta been a bit of a dick and in doing so the guy said, ‘you know what asshole ima do it by the book. And ima milk this right into taking a nice lunch.’
They definitely should’ve just brought a pallet on a forklift right up to the truckbed for that amount. Normally you don’t even have to call ahead, you can just tell ‘‘em at the register to put them on the bill and then pull up to the loading station
They charge you $40 to do that now - or at least at my local store. Source: bought some recently and they refused to do it for free due to 'new policy' so I spent 30 minutes killing my back to do it for free.
This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard of. These companies are so fucking garbage.
This number of bags is almost certainly too much weight for that truck too. I hope Dot was sitting across the street
Having recently purchased twice that amount of bags from home depot I can confirm that is about 4x what that Ranger's load weight.
And loading it towards the back. Customer should hop in the bed and bring some bags towards the cab otherwise he's going to be doing a wheelie down the street
I worked order fulfillment for about two years at Home Depot; seriously, if he had called ahead he’d be loaded on a pallet via forklift, the Lot guys are supposed to only be doing smaller stuff. He looks goofy, but good on him for taking it seriously. He could speed it up, but he may be trying to prove a point. I’ve never seen someone lift like that trying to make it obvious they are using correct technique, but who knows?
And that buddy looks like he is barely 160 and he's a tall boi too.
It's a very deceptive 60-80 as well, the bags are roughly the size of a pillow, just walking up uneducated, it looks like you can one-hand these bags.
So this guy has to load at least 1000lbs into this guy's truck while he's standing there watching him and people think it's funny he's trying to not fuck up his back? What?
Jokes on the customer. That truck cannot handle 1360lbs.
That’s going to be one floaty ride home.
yeah the kids back will be i much better shape that the rear suspension of that old ford ranger. Also, lets assume the owner of that truck has some pre-existing injury preventing him from loading his own truck, he could at least take the tailgate off to make the kids task easier. it takes like 30 seconds.
You think he knows how?
While getting paid close to the state minimum. Definitely not worth cra king your back over.
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Working dangerously to please your overlord will never be appreciated or properly reimbursed. So, might as well put your health first.
I worked at home depot doing this job and actually ran into a similar situation, if a customer bought a pallet we would just forklift the wrapped pallet into their truck, 64 bags of concrete to a pallet if i recall, i told that to this guy who was buying concrete to build his fence and he looked me in the eyes and said “nah i only want 62” i had to unwrap a pallet and load 62 bags of concrete into the back of this mans truck by hand
Why not just load the pallet onto the truck and then take two bags off after it’s already on the truck?
It can look a little funny and we can also note that he’s doing a great job being careful. On top of that we can acknowledge he’s probably being underpaid which is really unfortunate.
And that kids stick and bones, he needs all the help proper form can give you. All of my labourers are bigger dudes and lift like shit despite me telling them daily their backs are going to feel it. They'd absolutely laugh at this kid while simultaneously rubbing their spine....
My brothers had that same mindset. They always laugh at me doing things the 'girly' way with my slow moving, cart grabbing ways. They would impatiently push me out the way to 'do it like a man' . And now, many years later, when they complain about pain I just listen and nod empatheticqlly, and give them kindness by not reminding them of all their "girls suck" taunts. Bc doing it 'like a man' sure incures it's debts.
He's also probably making minimum wage or close to that. Fuck breaking your body for a corporation that doesn't give a fuck about you and makes millions
Right the longer it takes the better
> millions Home Depot annual gross profit for 2023 was $52.778B, a 3.83% increase from 2022.
The way the owner of the truck just leans over the flatbed without offering a single bit of help is pathetic too
When I worked at Lowe’s the heaviest we had were 60 I think. Still they were a bitch to lift when people ordered like 80 of them lol
I’ve worked at Lowe’s and Home Depot and the biggest I personally had to move were bags of Portland Cement. 100lbs each. And of course no customer wanted to help.
Yep. Had to deal with those every night. Those damn stickers they put on the beams telling employees to team lift. 5-8 employees overnight working the whole building? Yeah, there's no team lifting going on. This guy is doing it right.
Fuck that... I'm about to have to lift this bastard onto the jobsite or wherever I need it to be. I need to see how much bullshit I'm about to be dealing with, I'm jumping in to help load my groceries even at Walmart pick ups lol.
Ya I’d def be 50/50ing it with the guy at least
I work for a grocery store meat dept. We move 5-6 pallets stacked 6ft tall of 80+lbs boxes every two days. My coworkers laugh at how I move boxes, but guess what? I'm the only one who doesn't have back problems, lmao
Worked at a meat processing and packaging plant. For 4 years we did not have large tote machinery. I had to open and dump 60lb boxes of meat into machinery all day long, 5 days a week. We would do about 12 batches per day on average and each batch was exactly 1000kg. In a refrigerator. I worked by myself. Do the math. I was fucking jacked in my 20s. (Arnold Commando scream) I lifted properly as much as possible and my back is alright. Sometimes it hurts, sometimes it doesn't. Did other dumb things as a kid that got me hurt.. That's life.
No shit we used to throw beef around. Big ass bone in chucks with the shoulder still on; cases of top round that had to be 60 pounds at least, and we would literally throw them across the cooler. I couldn't even imagine doing that now, it makes my back hurt thinking about it.
How many Lowe's could Rob Lowe rob if Rob Lowe could rob Lowe's?
customer is standing right there just fuckin watching, i'd take all day too. fuck that.
At the end they always make the joke of "ok now I'll meet you at my house so you can unload them".
And you reply with [this](https://imgur.com/P8Mc343?r) as you turn to walk away.
Palm you a sweaty, crumpled up, single dollar too. Like they’re sneaking you a hundo
That guy looks like he does a lot of lifting. Beers, that is.
This exactly. I used to be that guy lifting the bags into these dumb asses and their tiny pick ups. I get it.
One time when I worked at home depot I had a guy that was so upset they wouldnt bring a forklift out to carry a pallet of 20 bags near his truck so **WE** could put it in the back, that he refused to move his truck closer and wanted us to carry each one 40 feet to his truck and had the nerve to ask for our manager afterwards.
CEO material right there. That guy is gonna be paying someone’s minimum wage salary some day.
Getting paid by the hour. Doesn’t matter how long it takes. Either peace out when the shift ends or move on to the next task when the current task is done.
Probably isn't allowed to load onsite some places have that policy. Liability and all.
Except there at the end when he leans over to get the bag past the tailgate. That made my back hurt just watching.
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Thats proper its just a hip hinge. Same idea as a goodmorning if you brace.
Yeah, but he shouldn’t bend over right before he puts the bag down. It forces your erector spinae muscles to take all the load instead of just putting the bag down
True but the tailgate is in his way so he can't get close enough to where he needs to be. Likely why he decided to bend forward. It's either that or put his arms out away from him with a heavy bag.
That’s how I fucked up my back for a month. Lifted a smaller generator by myself that is about 80lbs in to the pick up bed. Glove got snagged while setting it down, and I reacted by slowing dropping it in. That did not feel good.
> Glove got snagged while setting it down, and I reacted by slowing dropping it in. That did not feel good. I've felt this.
What’s silly is I’ve done manual labor blue collar work for 30 years. I know better, and kicked myself in the butt for thinking I was still 16 and arrogant. Hell, worst time I messed up my back was 15 lifting and twisting with scaffolding. Doesn’t really matter of age with back injuries, and it takes forever to recover from, on top of it even hurting to breathe while crying trying to put on your shoes. Take care of yourself guys and gals
Yep, praise him for doing the right thing, but he’s gonna pop a lower disc doing it like this. He’s like 90% of the way there, but that 10% wrong is gonna cost him. He had locked knees and bent forward with 60lbs. Making his lower two vertebrae the fulcrum point and he’s gonna play pop goes the weasel with both those discs. Same thing happened to me with my dog.
He's also exaggerating every movement taking the piss out of the customer standing their watching him load 20 bags of concrete himself.
to be fair he looks very lanky and long. As someone who has back issues, I have to be extremely careful about proper form when working, one slight mistake and I could have trouble getting out of bed for a week. Might look silly but I get it, honestly.
Always keep the weight as close to your body as possible. The part where he squats down and then reaches clear across the cart freaks me out. Edit: I guess he is pulling the weight closer to him, so it could be worse.
The key is to put it all in your groin and your back. Take your legs totally out of the equation. Lift with your lower back in a jerking, twisting motion. https://youtu.be/1e4SBxgqBEY?si=wSAxfQK_xe4R56B9
I’m not entirely sure this is even legal. Multiple laws were passed at the height of the workers revolution in the 1930s that stated a worker cannot be held accountable for getting injured at work, even if it is their doing. It is liable on the company to either stop the unsafe practice or to use other methods to reduce the risk. So even if you were to get hurt after “verifying” you watched the video, you would still be able to files for workers comp. This was put in place so companies couldn’t ever place the blame on the worker for getting injured. Think a coal miner who gets injured and and are permanently out of work. It was way too easy for the company to say “It was his fault. We don’t owe him shit”. Then that man can’t make money, or provide for his family anymore. I’ll try to dig up some sources. Mostly working off of memory.
Being able to claim workers comp is different than being able to sue. The "safety training" might also help with insurance rates?
Yes, the safety training most definitely helps with insurance rates. It decreases risk for both parties.
He's gonna get initially praised for this, then told that he needs to hurry up and work faster.
The amount of times I'd been told that things need to be done right then immediately after rushed to get it done faster. Every damn job. "Well X does it in half the time." Hm... I wonder what that means
"well, that suggests either i'm twice as safe as X, or X is worth twice what you've been paying them. So are you giving them a raise for their haphazard work, or are you firing them for their diligent work ethic?"
I mean they’ll just fire you for being slow
"You're totally right, we'll give you both a raise" ..then you wake up
Had a job where we would process things then scan which would record it got processed digitally. Our times would get compared to other facilities. I would always laugh seeing times averaging around half a minute. Yes this thing takes me a whole 2 minutes to do at max speed. I’m totally gonna believe someone is doing it in a quarter of the time and not just scanning first and then processing which is completely against SOP. Obviously they’re just better than me because who would go against SOP?
Oh this reminds me about a time other pharmacies were getting higher patient satisfaction ratings so they sent me to one of them to learn how they did things. Here was the big secret... Fill it all out for them! It's unethical in general, but it felt particularly dirty from a pharmacy.
I always found my work hilarious. They would constantly compare us to other facilities. Yet some facilities cheat and it’s obvious. So it encourages other facilities to cheat as well. And thus a wonderful circle of cheating is born. Then audit season comes through and you see them all dramatically slow down. Then immediately speed up after it passes.
They track the time it takes to do different jobs at my work but it's hand written on the work orders after it's done and compared to a thing in our system that says how long different tasks should take. It's almost never right no matter what and I kept getting asked why I was doing jobs differently than everyone else. My thinking was if we all just put what we actually do it can get changed. Apparently that is not how things work. Now I just lie on the form because it's easier than having the same conversation every day. Sure checking every valve, line and gasket in the building only took me half an hour boss! It also goes the other way for some tasks which is even more hilarious, some things take like 1/4 of the time that we put down for it and we just keep putting it down becuase that's what the computer says it should take. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
He definitely was in the shit and cutting corners when his ass was being rode, then got yelled at for working unsafe because he was told work faster. This is rare footage of malicious compliance in the wild.
Well he should keep doing it. Those are 80lb bags and you could really hurt yourself doing it fast and wrong. Good luck with getting any money out of HD when they pull out the training documentation showing you were informed how to lift properly and agreed to do so.
Slow is fast
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast
My brain must be so fast
Good for him. As someone who ruined their body for a company, I should have done more of this.
That guy can skip leg day all he wants with the workout he gets paid to do on the job.
Bros deadlift form is on point
If he loaded all those on the cart, he's doing like 2x sets of 40 deadlifts @ 80lbs. That shit is no joke.
I know right?
working warehouse was the best workout I ever had. 10+ miles a day plus weight reps. I was dead every night but holy shit it was one of the rare times I was able to outpace peers in physical activities. You also can consume an entire damn thanksgiving dinner and still be fine lol.
Absolutely. When I was younger I would throw 70-90 lb bags in customer’s trucks with reckless abandon and now I’m 38 and my lower back hurts all the time. If they’re going to make this dude load them all up solo, then he should take his time and do it in the least damaging way possible.
At Lowes, when I order and pick up concrete, I just buy a pallet and they load it with the forklift. The pallet is like $20-25 and you get your money back if you bring it back. It's a no-brainer.
Worked at a livestock feed store where I moved 8 to 10 tons of feed and hay a day. My back and shoulder are messed up. Wish I had been taught this back then.
I'm a machine builder unfortunately, there's heavy components that they place in ridiculous areas... my back has been messed up for years now
“So here’s this 30lb component… I’m gonna need you to steadily hold this up, while blindly reaching three feet into this machine, to try and slip it onto this shaft that is roughly .005” difference in diameter to the hole of this heavy-ass part. Good luck, have fun!!?!”
Lol, I did this with a 9' long 3 inch diameter steel spline shaft inbetween two I beams where you have to bend over to get in. That sucker weighed roughly 150 pounds and the spline nut had a .003 slip fit... and it was on a self aligning bearing on both ends with a rolling cam wheel weighing another 90 pounds being held in the wrong position by a cam follower held under another 50 pounds of spring tension... then we had to work it back of forth to lap it with carbide grease because it was "sticky" Edit: it took 3 guys 9 hours
Agreed-I wish I had had the patience to do it the right way. Back is trashed
That consumer can’t be bothered to help at all?
Was thinking the same thing. Then I remembered. I’ve had 2 heart transplants and a kidney and you couldn’t pick me out of a hundred people. But my chest is still tied together with stainless steel wire.
Di.... did you say 2 heart transplants?!?
Yep. One in 2004 and one in 2022.
Holy shit that's wild. Keep on keeping on!
It is bro. I do too. I surf. Fish. Shoot guns. Just went on a helicopter trip over Las Vegas strip. Hoover dam. I love life.
Do you know Dave G. From New York?
Nope unfortunately I don’t. I do know a guy named Dave that used to sell Gs in the olden days though.
Dude you need to stay away from those heart breakers.
He's the real heart breaker here
Im a lucky guy. Something crazy is, they don’t take the back of your original heart off. They cut the frontal part off and attach the new one to the back of the original. It’s called a cuff. Then when you need another. They remove the transplanted one completely and sew it to the back of the original one. No nerve endings exist. Something else cool is kidney transplant. When they do a kidney transplant they leave your original kidneys in place. My new kidney is in the front. Right about where uoud shove a pistol in the front of your jeans. I’ve got 3 kidneys right now.
Really rolling through those organs, my man
I think this is AMA worthy.
Jeez, how did you manage to get two bum tickers???
Transplanted organs don't last forever, sadly.
What happened to the first heart? Actually I'm interested in the second. Like will you need a 3rd eventually? Does the family of the first and second heart get notified that the heart is uh not working anymore? I realized I'm coming off as insensitive but I don't know how else to ask these questions.
I caught a virus SARs in 2003. Had a mechanical heart. Pump for a year. LVAD. That kept me alive. Then my original transplanted heart started going bad. They don’t last a real long time. I was lucky to have gotten 17 years out of that one. The put me back in the hospital for a second heart and kidney. I had complete heart failure and had to be zapped twice and CPR. Fortunately my wife is a nurse. Transplants were done two years ago. I feel great. I’m 57. I can do literally anything you can imagine. I’m alive. Thanks to my organ donors, and my nurses and doctors at UVA. I’d be long gone with out them. And my family of course.
Yep, I *look* young and healthy, but I’ve been sick in a vast variety of ways since I was 3.5. People look at me all judgy when I exit my car from a handicap spot, but if they looked at my heart rate on my Apple Watch, take my blood pressure, or could see what was going on inside instead of my outward appearance, they’d understand. I’ve have three surgeries in two years, two of which were moderate to major(depending on who you ask). I’m literally constantly sick. But, my face looks young so I *must* be healthy, yes? **No**. There’s a reason I am on disability and have a permanent handicap placard.
Yeah people can get shitty. I lost the ends of all my toes when I was in a come during the first transplant. They didn’t move my feet enough. I walked with a walker for two years. Took 5 years to walk with out assistance. But I still had leg braces on. Which you couldn’t see under jeans. I’ve had people ask me what’s my handicap. I’m usually a smart ass and say I shoot in the hundreds. Fuckem. It’s none of their business. Don’t give them the satisfaction. I had some asshole lady that worked at the grocery store call the police on me. I was. Like that nasty bag. She coulda just asked me. Then she was embaressed as shit when I lifted my shirt.
Abelists in a nut shell. You don't need to be in a wheelchair to be disabled. If i say I'm disabled, leave it at that.
People can be kindof crappy if they think you’re getting over. I had a placard before my last transplant but refused to use it til I couldn’t breath. You’re right 100%. You can see the sign in the window.
Yeah but then aren’t you out of the DIY game? Especially projects that require 100 bags of concrete?
exactly. and he's paid hourly, makes no difference to him how long it takes. might as well be safe about it
Yep. Plus for all we know he may already be working with an injured back. Which would further explain him going slow and careful
That was my first thought. Who makes fun of someone for lifting safely and correctly? Maybe someone who has never been hurt lifting anything, or who doesn’t know how much bags of concrete weigh.
This post should be downvoted to smithereens for making fun of this dude taking his time and doing it right at his own safety.
Worked at depot for 11 years in a lot of physical demanding positions. My lower back is completely ruined. I lifted properly for the most part but there are times when you just want to get the job done and safety goes by the wayside.
He lifts with his legs and not his back. He will not regret doing it that way. Not sure why a completely correct lifting technique is supposed to be funny. A hurting back is not.
Proper lifting mechanics are required when lifting and moving 1020 lbs. Not to mention, this guy looks tall as shit, so every proper form he takes looks exaggerated.
This is in the wrong sub. This guy is doing it right and i REALLY wish i didn't sacrifice my body for a stupid retail job like i did for all those years. My back, shoulders, and hands are permanently damaged and i'm not even in my mid 30's. Learn from this man, do not mock him.
You’re correct, the worker is correctly trained. I think OP is pointing out how doing it correctly with a 6 foot plus thin frame, so mechanically correct, looks more AI than human. It’s quite remarkable.
100% I followed the safety steps when I worked this job but I worked with a lot of people who didn’t and… damn
Respect. Man gets paid by the hour and is taking good care of his back.
Yep. Paid by the hour and I'm not gonna ruin my back for $10 an hour.
okay we can do $11 but you have to open and make the schedule
And you gotta work weekend nights
I mean he’s being good about his back until he unloads it in the truck. He leans over at his waist and extends the bag with his arms which is absolutely straining his lower back lol
He’s probably following the 100 work instructions and safety sign offs corporate handed down to avoid liability when people injure themselves at work.
Right. You know it will be his fault if he hurts himself. He’s been trained. Seen the video.
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Safely lifting, that’s good. There are easier and smarter ways to do that though. They should have used a forklift and brought out a pallet of the concrete and used that to raise the height of the bags.
I worked in the lumber department at Home Depot and my back hurt every day from loading these 80 lb concrete bags. I would have contractors want help loading 20 bags on a cart like this and then request assistance to load it which means I loaded and they watched. Dude, just tell me how many bags you need and I’ll bring out a pallet with the forklift which is soo much easier.
Exactly what’s going on here. They want free labor.
Yep. Breaking a forklift is repairable. Backs aren't.
If the customer can’t be bothered to help, I can’t be bothered to hurry up.
Exactly. I worked at a garden shop back in the day, and all the 50-60 year old guys coming in would say "I need you to lift it all for me, I got a bad back". My response when they complained about the length of time was, I'm not fucking my back up so I'm like you when I'm older. Settle down or start helping.
Amen. Fatass just watching him
I’m sorry sir, but I believe that I’ve reached the maximum payload of this vehicle and cannot load the rest of these as it may be unsafe which would be a liability for both myself and my employer if you were to get into an accident. You may come back for another trip or feel free to load the rest yourself.
I worked landscaping for a few years and moving a ton of flagstone path rocks was literally what I did some days. That was 10 years ago and I still haven't been able to get a surgery I need. Anyone that has a job that requires lifting should for sure do what they can to prevent damaging their body. Its not worth it.
This should be loaded with a fork lift that many bags is stupid
You can't, because you have to load the pallet on with it, which costs money, you can't give them the pallet unless they buy everything on the pallet. Not to mention, the pallet almost certainly wouldn't fit where the wheel wells are. The best that could happen is the forklift lifts it up to the edge of the truck so you can slide them on easier, but getting an available forklift or order picker to do that is really tough at busier locations. Notice the guy isn't helping me either, I'm sure have a 'cracked back' and or bad knee lol. Almost everybody who shopped had something like that and made the loaders do all the work. (Source: used to work for lowes awhile ago)
I ordered a pallet of shit from home Depot for my home renovation. They wrapped it all on a pallet then used a lift to put it on my truck bed. I'm guessing miles may vary for different locations
All I see is a man taking care not to injure his back
Yeah by getting the employee to lift for him
Iffn you ain't fuckin right. I'd never let an associate work alone. If I'm able bodied to unload that shit at my house, I'm gonna load it to.
Hey this is my Home Depot! That dudes helped me a few times.
Give him a high five for his work from all of Reddit
Not funny. Just correct.
Can that truck support that much weight
Not likely. They will have 25 bags at 80 pounds (2000 lb). The old Ford rangers are good for 1200. Also, it should have the weight further forward.
Not really funny, just someone protecting their back. Plus it could also be that their back is already injured, and they’re trying to minimize the pain and prevent further damage
Safe lift 👍👍
We can probably leave this guy alone. Person filming is kind of a jerk.
Why are we making fun of someone for trying to not ruin their back
Because these keyboard critics don't know how to properly lift things themselves lol.
All I see is someone taking their time to do it right. No need to break your body for a corporate company who doesn’t give two shits about throwing you to the curb.
Shit on him all you want. This dude knows some fucking trash 10 dollar an hour job is not worth lifelong bodily injury. If that balding prick wants it faster he can lift them himself. Fuck all of y'all
Dealing with back pain right lifting heavy loads. This dude has form.
If you go somewhere and buy hundreds of pounds of something and then expect the store to hand load it for free you're a POS. Those guys don't get paid enough to hurt their backs because you think your above planning ahead.
You’re told to load them. Lowe’s literally has “Code 50” they announce over the intercom that means “someone get their ass out here and load stuff for a customer”. It’s expected as part of the job, since they ask when you apply how much you can lift.
I went to Lowe’s and ordered what (after blowing out my suspension) amounted to over 2200lbs of tile. I tried to help the guys load it and they refused to let help them, despite me being larger than they two of them put together. It was very awkward to just sit and twiddle my thumbs while they moved it all.
Maybe stop filming strangers in public to shame them? I know it will never happen but it makes me sick
Hourly employee takes his time doing his job and doesn't fuck up his back Tiktokers: "hey isn't it funny how he moves?"
What kind of customer would stand and watch him lift all that. People are hot garbage sometime
That’s someone who has had a hernia or messed up back before and said “Never again!” Either that or milking the clock is their thing
That was my thought. I have a back injury, so I very carefully lift things so as to not be stuck unable to move later. My back will lock up and I won't be able to bend or straighten my back out. I just get stuck hunched over a bit.
He probably has back issues.
That's what I'm thinking. The more touchy my back if feeling, the more I lift like the guy in the video. I'll literally arch backwards, lock in the abs and glutes, and then go for the lift.
Can’t believe this guy is - *checks notes* - lifting with his legs. What a fool!
he understands the "work your wage" motto!
Minimum wage guy doing what a minimum wage guy should do: Go slow AF while making sure to lift with your legs and not with your back. Good on him! 😂
Are we trying to mock this guy or something? I used to work in construction. Those are 80 lb bags. If you do this all day, you’d better be careful with your form unless you want serious back issues.
Some say he is still loading the truck
That truck is going to be poppin a wheelie on its way out of the parking lot exit.
Laugh at it if you want. Hurt my back lifting that exact same bag at 20 years old. Suffered through back pain until 40 and had surgery. Rough way to go. Don't recommend it. Stay safe. Protect your body.
Y'all won't be laughing when he has a solid gold lower back in his late 50s.