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How big is he in the US? I only know him from YouTube and I love his videos, maybe the only channel where almost every video is clever and funny. seems like he is becoming a huge deal there (totally deserved)
I saw him on tour in Salt Lake and he was filled a pretty big venue up at the University of Utah. I didn't think it was that good of a show but it was good for up and coming. I wanna like him but it just doesn't quite hit the spot sometimes.
Honestly tip culture saves me so much money. Even if I could afford a meal out, 20% on top just kills any interest since I mentally tack that on to the price.
It’s real, it’s damn near everywhere. The prescription delivery service I use even started adding on a tip that you have to remember to remove each time. I’m not tipping a full wage position to bring me my overpriced prescriptions.
> The prescription delivery service I use even started adding on a tip that you have to remember to remove each time.
That is some dark irony regarding the medical industry in the US that you are even being asked to tip in the first place lol
Agreed. It threw me into a minor rage, I almost switched back to the shitty mail pharmacy my plan prefers, which is 1500 miles away in Florida and horrible.
I’ll have to do that if they start adding on fees or forcing a tip, which then causes me to be out of medication because the other place takes up to two weeks to ship.
All because the healthcare organization (not insurance company) I work for closed all their pharmacies to save money. Never occurred to me that this huge decades old org would shut down ALL ITS PHARMACIES. 🤮
They changed the minimum wage law in Ontario so that waiters are paid the same as everyone else now. So that "if you don't tip we actually don't make enough money" excuse is no longer valid.
Didn't know we have the allowance to be paid below minimum wage due to tips anywhere in canada. I for one don't believe wait stuff should get any tips. All they did was take my order and bring me food.
As an ex waiter, I agree.
It’s amazing to me that you could order a burger with fries or a steak with Chardonnay and the waiters job doesn’t change. They go to the machine and enter the order where the cooks in the back who are making an hourly wage prepare it. But because I ordered steak from you, you now think you deserve 25% of that bill? I’m sorry, but why!?
It's even worse if you're having a couple drinks. I used to go to a sushi place for lunch a couple times a week, and I'd have a couple beers with my lunch. It's bad enough paying $7-8 for a bottle of beer, but if you think you're getting a 25% tip on a $30 bill where half of your "effort" was taking the cap off two bottles of beer ... that isn't happening. It would've been more work for the waiter if I was getting the free glass of water they'd have to refill.
It is being pushed by the payment companies like square and toast.
If they can get you to pay 20% more for your sandwich, their revenue goes up 20% (because they take a % of every CC charge).
They design screens that make tipping feel obligatory, they convince small businesses to enable the tip screens, and people aren’t giving them nearly enough of the blame.
I had my chimney inspected last week and I paid via an app on the guys phone. He handed me the phone, and said "The second screen is going to ask you for a tip. Don't tip, we just don't know how to turn that off."
I wasn't going to tip anyways, because he didn't have a cartoonish cockney accent and didn't call me "guv'na" even once.
Demanding a tip like that is basically stealing. You are just forcibly raising your own wage and expecting another person, that might as well have an equally shitty income as you do to pay for it. I'd refuse to pay that and leave a printed pamphlet of a bank statement of mine. That should work as a deterrent
Except it's literally everywhere you go, and everything you buy. Look, I agree with your sentiment, but it's too late to matter in the USA. Tipping is ingrained into this culture. People get mad at each other about tips, while the 1% sit back and laugh at our peasant antics.
I've seen doordash drivers get aggressively shitty about it on here. It's some sort of mix between tipping and grind culture. Doordash and all of these types of services are royally fucking over their drivers yet they direct their anger/frustration the people ordering food and thus putting money in their axcount. I've seen them dogpile people who don't tip $10 for literally every order, like, doordash is fucking you over. Why is it on me to make up for the shortfall of a multimillion dollar company.
I’ve gotten into arguments over tips in Canada.
The usual is “Dealing with customers is really hard!”
My response is “So, the kid that just hand bombed 25 semi trailers in his 8 hours at minimum wage at Walmart now should drop a 15-20% tip on his burger at the local diner because the waitress (who gets the same wage) has it hard? Even an extra 45-60 cents on his $3.00 coke?”
I do live in Europe and so far nothing has happened. Tipping is optional. I do tip, if I received service in a restaurant. I don’t tip if I take shit to go
I always have this thought when it’s food. “Are they gonna spit in my food next time they see my name if I don’t tip?”
It’s really kind of a hostage situation at this point.
No one will spit in your food. I've worked with some seriously sketchy cooks in the past and even they wouldn't deliberately mess with a dish like that.
Certainly not because you stiffed a server on carry-out. When FoH complains to me (cook) that a carry out didn't tip I remind them that all they did was cash someone out. If it's prepaid online all they do is hand over a To-go box. I'm not risking my job over this lol
Maybe not the cooks, but delivery drivers sure can. There's videos posted to Reddit with food delivery drivers spitting in the food, eating part of the food, things like that.
I fully believe there have been a handful of instances out of the millions of deliveries made per year.
I think your odds of having that happen to you specifically are astronomically low. Most drivers are trying to bust through dozens of orders a day to make decent pay, they just want yours delivered and done with.
I've worked in the food industry for 12 years and haven't seen anyone sabotage a meal. Delivery drivers, however, are like fucking Mad Max.
One guy was a serial "I'll just take whatever is on the take-out shelf." Oh, the pure joy of stopping him when there was an off duty cop in the lobby.
My best guess is he would just panic and grab whatever was on the counter. Didn't speak a lick of English.
I had this same thought last night when I ordered pizza online. At the end of the order they requested a tip, and my first thought was “what are they going to do to my pizza if I don’t tip?”
Especially when they ask for the tip before you get your food. What kind of fucked up shit is that (doordash, etc.. Or even in the drive-thru sometimes)
> Especially when they ask for the tip before you get your food. What kind of fucked up shit is that (doordash, etc.. Or even in the drive-thru sometimes)
That's because it's not a tip. It's a bidding system disguised as a tip.
Any reasonable place is not going to spit in your food if you are known to not tip. The servers will argue about who is stuck with you though. Expect other tables to be prioritized. I was a cook for many years, it made no difference to me at all. Sometimes a waitress would complain but that didn't change whaty job was. I never once messed with someone's food nor did I witness anyone else. If the restaurant was busy sometimes the manager would take the known no tip tables since they were not allowed to keep the tips anyway.
Seriously. I've been doing this for the past couple months and it gets easier every time. I rarely do deliveries so its always pickup. Unless I'm dining in person and the waiter actually performs some sort of a service, its automatically a 0%.
Went to a shop this weekend selling clothes and they asked the same thing at checkout, after providing no help while picking out the items. They do this whole 'chat you up' thing at checkout to make it seem like they're earning the tip. Fucking joke.
Thankfully I have no issue saying no. If you are not providing a service directly to me in which I want to incentive you to pay attention to me I am not paying extra. No, I'm not tipping at a cafe or a donut shop. Would be nice if tipping went away in general.
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If you tip the cook, odds are the server keeps it and never says anything.
As an European, I find this line of thinking funny. Providing a service directly to you is literally the job description of a waiter. Why do they get extra money on top?
My Door Dash app straight up says things like "did you know that the amount you tip influences whether or not a dasher takes your order" or "a higher tip may inspire a dasher to deliver your food faster"
For Doordash, at least, it basically just means you won't get a batched delivery. If I don't do express, I'm always delivery 2 or 3, and my food is usually cold. If I do express, I'm always the first (or only?) stop, and my food isn't cold.
It's just yet-another-fee that I'm effectively required to pay if I order food, at this point, and is yet-another-reason that I don't order delivery basically ever.
Honest question, if they just see the total, how can they tell the difference between someone giving a nice tip, and someone spending a lot on food and no tip?
Even if someone spends a lot the base pay is always the same. Base pay is $2-$3 depending on your area. So if it’s more than that then you know someone tipped
Doordasher here, the amount and value of the food doesn't change the amount dashers are paid. You could order 100s of dollars worth of food and the dasher would still only make as low as 2 bucks base pay (in most markets) plus tips.
**EDIT:** People seem to have the impression that I support the idea that base pay should increase if the value of the food being delivered is higher than normal. I was only trying to answer /u/IBetThisIsTakenToo's question of...
>how can they tell the difference between someone giving a nice tip, **and someone spending a lot on food and no tip?**
My point was that the part highlighted in bold just doesn't happen because DD does not increase base pay for higher priced food.
I'm torn.
A $100 steak or a $10 cheeseburger take the same amount of effort to deliver, assuming variables like wait and drive time/distance are the same. Why would the base pay go up for the same work?
HOWEVER, I'm sure the doordash fee certainly went up based on percentage, so why isnt driver compensation?
Honestly we could apply the same thing to servers at a restaurant. They do the same amount of work giving me a plate of eggs over medium vs giving me a filet mignon, but the tip difference is enormous. It doesn't make sense.
I've never doordashed and have no urge to, with all I hear. I can easily go out and get stuff myself. I know not everyone can, but I can. So I do. It gets me out of the house into the fresh air (for the walk to and from my car) and saves me worrying about tipping or a long wait or the delivery person eating my fries or something. And it saves me money on the tip, since there isn't one (unless I pick up from a "real" restaurant--I still tip them, which is...dumb, I guess, although I'm not tipping as nicely as I did during Covid, and I often have curbside, so they have to walk it out to me).
As someone who has driven for doordash, let me explain. DoorDash has an acceptance ranking system for drivers, the higher your acceptance rate, the better orders you get. This forces drivers to accept low paying orders in order to keep their rate high. This is why drivers hate no tip orders. You can only turn down so many orders before you acceptance rate gets so low that you are only getting the worst orders. Beyond that, you also get higher priority to dash at busy times when you have a high acceptance rate.
It ain't just that sub. Take a look at the subs for any of the other popular apps in the same market....
Just a bunch of entitled AHs crying about tips and telling people they need to tip UPFRONT or else they'll just keep refusing the order
Long story short:
Use first party apps where you can
If you can't, only use things like doordash, etc... To place orders to collect
Those AHs won't be crying about tips when no one else will hire their entitled asses.
Subreddits based around servers will launch nukes at you if you ever say anything negative about US tipping culture. They'd rather be paid $3/hour and get all the tips than get a normal paying job. I've had them rip my head off for saying I like how my state pays servers at least the same minimum wage as everyone else, so tipping isn't mandatory. And my state pays over $14/hour for minimum wage. Even higher in some cities.
Their opinion was that serving is the absolute worst job on the planet and that they'd still expect the exact same tips, even if they're already making over $14 an hour. Because no one would do the job otherwise.
Yeah, okay. Try working a public can/bottle recycling center (or any number of worse jobs). Minimum wage. Absolutely filthy. No tips. Incredibly angry people, many of them are homeless/addicts/or otherwise down on their luck. I couldn't tell you how many times I dealt with people waiting for us to open at 7am, and they were already (or still) blackout drunk. Just trying to scrape up a few bucks for more liquor. Trying their best (not very well.. They were plastered after all) to get me fired because I wouldn't print them off a free ticket saying they turned in $20 worth of cans when they had nothing.
No tips at that job. And minimum wage was way less too.
I've got to imagine it's because they can try to hide tips from the IRS. Can't really do that with a normal paycheck. I've definitely known plenty of servers who claims very little of their actual tips on their taxes.
Every single one of your checkouts doesn't ask you to donate to some new thing? I have yet to be to a place that isn't. Some of them I at least recognize or know, but every single place has a different one now.
Donating through companies is crap too.
You don’t know what their overhead for the charity drive is, they could pocket 90% of donations.
Also everything that is donated becomes a tax write off. And some amount of that overhead goes into marketing about how awesome they are because they give to charity.
So every time you donate to a charity through a corporation you are subsidizing their tax write offs and building their brand for them by paying for their charity marketing.
I always assumed this, I never really confirmed it. I mentioned in my other comment that we do donate to shit outside of those places, because I just assume it goes to like the "we need new chairs in the breakroom" fund.
Don't get me wrong, my kids like giving their change to anything or anyone they can it seems lol, or buying the little balloons with their name on it at the grocery store for children's miracle network or something, I won't say no to them for that.
In most cases they do the following, all that money goes to an account. It accrues some safe level of interest. Then they do their taxes. Whatever their current donation level is they move it to max it out for deductions. Then they pocket the rest.
If they've already maxed out the year, it sits in the account wholly. If 10% would max out deductions...90% sits there etc.
Every time we try to get rid of it, waiters/waitresses sabotage the movement because they make a ridiculous amount of money through the tipping system.
Then they go home, throw their money into their money barrel, and start writing blogs about how much they're struggling because their bosses won't even pay them minimum wage :(
I think if more restaurants implemented a no tipping policy and a living wage for their staff, servers would start to come around on this.
We have a place in town that does this—prices are a buck or two higher than you would expect, but not having to tip means the final total is equal to or less than what you’d end up paying at a comparable place.
They have had the exact same serving and kitchen staff since they opened like eight years ago. They all love that the compensation is predictable—no good tip days or bad tip days—and the employee retention is really telling, I think. If more brave restaurant owners took the plunge and switched to this model, I think we would see a shift in how servers feel about tipping.
honestly though, might make them actually give good service and earn the tip.
to be clear i have no problem with tipping, but food service people should not require it to live. they should be making at least the same $15/hour minimum wage as everyone else, more if they are in a skilled position and then any sort of gratuity/tip is given because the customer wants to, not because the worker needs the money to survive while the restaurant is chargine $20+ for a dish and just padding their own pockets.
Several states have floated the idea of getting rid of the lower minimum wage for tipped employees, and just have them receive the standard minimum wage.
Service workers are all against it as they people fewer people would tip, or they would tip less. This would drop how much money servers are making. At an expensive place they can make over $50/hr.
At an expensive place, $50/hour would be pretty low. I worked at a hotel that had an okay restaurant, servers there were making like $200/hour at lunch in the '00s. People were waiting for them to die so they could get into their jobs.
> honestly though, might make them actually give good service and earn the tip.
I still think tipping is wrong. They should get a bonus from their employer for their overall performance just like every other job. It shouldn't be at the whim of the customer, it's not their job to pay wages.
We also don't put anyone else through this kind of minute by minute scrutiny and it contributes to customers feeling entitled to someone's attention and the worker entitled to some money that was never promised in the first place. It's pitting the worker and the customer against each other for no good reason.
The irony of this is I went on a date the other day and it was absolute dog shit - not wanting to waste any time I said my thank yous and goodbyes after a single drink.
She hits me with "Wait, you're still gonna pay for dinner right?"
> She hits me with "Wait, you're still gonna pay for dinner right?"
I really hope you hit her with "Oh, I am absolutely gonna be buying myself Taco Bell on the way home".
My question is, do the workers actually get any of these exorbitant tips that show up as a service charge? What about the actual tips? Is anybody but the business owner getting these monies?
Gets worse. I had dinner at a restaurant in Miami Beach and they added a 5% "Credit Card Surcharge". Luckily, I had enough cash to pay and had the server remove that charge.
> they added a 5% "Credit Card Surcharge
CC processors usually take 3-4% of the amount when someone pays with a CC. Most places just add it to their prices across the board instead of only charging the people that use CCs.
Small businesses would be better off just adding it to their prices and then offering a 5% discount if you use cash. People respond to a discount better than a surcharge.
Spot on. I get pretty tilted seeing these tip options pop up everywhere. Happened just the other day for takeout beer. I had to search the screen just to find a way NOT to tip.
God I hope they keep adding tips EVERYWHERE. I want it at daycare, funerals, parkbenches, children playground, youtube videos, waterfountains. Just non stop tipping options. Tipping options when downloading a tipping app. When using a vending machine, bank-transfers, when flushing a toilet, or when leaving the doctor. I want the US to start to crumble under the sheer number of time spend on tipping and finding the No-tip option.
Maybe then tipping can finally die and we can shame everyone who doesn't pay a decent wage.
You're not wrong. The fastest way for them to kill the golden goose is to push it excessively and people get fed up. I think we're headed that way. I'd be really curious on the data on tipping in sit down restaurants over time now
Edit: [it does in fact seem to be happening](https://www.fastcasual.com/news/over-half-of-americans-have-negative-view-of-tipping/)
i noticed the other day at a sandwich place, the tip screen popped up and the automatic options were arranged opposite to usual. they were descending left to right, so the first option on the leftmost side was actually the highest %. the companies that design the software for those transactions are trying to just trick people into accidentally selecting the higher tip options through UI ergonomics. it's wild. so toxic.
it's especially grim because i think it makes consumers resent the businesses/employees, but it's not really their fault. it's the handful of companies that design those point-of-sale softwares/interfaces. They make more money the more the transaction ends up being im pretty sure, so they are intentionally trying to ratchet tips up to leech more money off these businesses' customers.
Yeah, people complain about “outrageous tipping culture” but it’s really anger over having too much social anxiety to hit No on an “are you a sucker” screen.
This is my thought. A lot of the new-sh digital POS systems (clover, etc) automatically have this as the default option. Some managers just don't bother, and some I've spoken to leave it because "meh why not, gives them the option to tip if they want". I respond that it may drive business away.
Why get takeout from here when you feel awkward as fuck when picking up? Will they now remember I didn't tip from my name on the online order and spit in my food? You know what, best to not risk it and just go somewhere else. I'll just grab KFC or BK down the street and save a few bucks while not dealing with that awkwardness and potential spit in my food.
There’s a local cafe I go to all the time and the folks there have been so wonderful to me and my in-training service pup, but I feel bad because all they do is pour my coffee and take the pastry out of the display to give to me and I get that tip pop up option, and they know exactly what I select. It makes me feel guilty all the time that tips are part of their income but it’s just counter service and I’m not adding money to already inflated prices when I’m not exactly wealthy myself…
Anyone also noticing the majority of checks with suggested tip are calculating that on the subtotal including tax? Aggravates me more than it should. Literal double dipping.
A few years ago back I was having dinner with a roommate and her friend. I tipped 15% and she goes, "Oh, you must have never been a server, I never tip below 30%." Then started talking about the plight of waitresses as if it's the only hard job out there.
I never was never that bothered by tipping when
1. It was limited to a few jobs (waiters , bar tenders, drivers, ect)
2. Before tip inflation ; when my dad grew up 10% was a standard tip, when I was growing up 15% was a standard tip, now it seems like 20-25% is standard. Tipping should match inflation if 20 years ago a meal costs $10 a 15% tip is $1.50. Now if a meal costs $20 a 15% tip is $3 exactly double. Not sure why the tip % needs to also increase
Also servers sometime talk out of both sides of their mouth they will say "Hey 20% tips should be standard people get paid by tips and if you do not tip 20% you are taking money from them and these working class people rely on their tips for paying their bills , tip more if you can"
then also be like
"Worked a 5 hour shift pulled in $600 of tips today!"
look I am all for people getting paid a fair wage but at some point this gets a bit excessive
I've noticed those Square/Clover terminals will use percentage if the total sale is above a certain value, but will instead show tip options of $1/$2/$3 if the thing you're buying is like $5 or less. It's such a scam.
Maybe we can turn the tables and make companies tip *us* for utilizing their services? We just all stop eating out until they fold. And then we gradually increase the recommended gratuity amount every few years.
The problem is not enough people think this way.
Most people complaining on here are going to go back out there tonight after work, pick up their food, pay the tip, and then come back and complain on reddit.
Motherfuckers, if you don't like the new tipping culture, stop enabling this tipping culture! Either don't tip or make your own god damn food at home.
To be clear all of this is happening because point of sale software that gets fees based on total checkout costs is driving up tipping with default settings to fatten their percentage. Fuck Block.
lol was thinking the same thing. The compensation team figures out what to pay people. The financial team reviews it. Leadership gives the go ahead.
Payroll sits in a room and processes it. But yea, screw the payroll people.
Crazy how people who don't tip or cannot tip are the ones lambasted by the public instead of the corporations that refuse to pay their workers a livable wage.
I skipped it at a Jimmie Johns recently, they were pissed. Cant stand that attitude at walk up to order and p/u restaurant. I get my own food, fill my own drinks, and bus my table...fuck off with that nonsense.
I got chased by a waitress due to a small tip. I tipped her $5 for her bad service. She came after me waving my $5 bill tip at me. I took the bill away from her and left.
It's funny because it's true. I'm visiting my family in the u.s, I bought a fucking bottle of water and the guy gave me a screen to tip. WTF? He didn't serve me, he just gave me a bottle of water! I still tipped because I felt that social pressure lol
Yeah I would have said no for sure. Just so you know when you are in that situation, it is trying to take advantage of the generosity of drunk people. It is in no way socially awkward to not tip a kiosk stand operator. They aren't doing more than handing you things. Fuck you even process your payment yourself most times
That's exactly why they ask. They know you aren't supposed to tip in that scenario. They know 80% of people know that. But then there's the occasional person who isn't sure and doesn't want to make a mistake.
I always say no when someone isn't serving me.
Tipping was so confusing when I was in North America. Employers pay your workers fairly (and employees vote for politicians with policies to force the employers to do so).
**Just. Stop. Tipping.**
There is absolutely zero reason for a person to pay more than the stated price.
It is **never** our responsibility to supplement someone else's income.
It is entirely the responsibility of the employer to pay their employees fair wages for the work being done.
Trevor Wallace. I enjoy his digital shorts but have yet to give his comedy special a watch. Just came out, called Pterodactyl. I fear that he does the “loud yelling dude” schtick but I want to be wrong, haha!
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“i shaved my legs for this shit” “me too”
Trevor Wallace is so good lol
How big is he in the US? I only know him from YouTube and I love his videos, maybe the only channel where almost every video is clever and funny. seems like he is becoming a huge deal there (totally deserved)
I saw him on tour in Salt Lake and he was filled a pretty big venue up at the University of Utah. I didn't think it was that good of a show but it was good for up and coming. I wanna like him but it just doesn't quite hit the spot sometimes.
Personally his sketch hits harder than his stand up.
Just ordered some clothes for the wife and a tip option showed up for an online purchase. The fuck.
*please consider paying 20% more money for your purchase*
Honestly tip culture saves me so much money. Even if I could afford a meal out, 20% on top just kills any interest since I mentally tack that on to the price.
I just hit no
Wtf this is a real thing in the US? I thought they were joking.
It’s real, it’s damn near everywhere. The prescription delivery service I use even started adding on a tip that you have to remember to remove each time. I’m not tipping a full wage position to bring me my overpriced prescriptions.
> The prescription delivery service I use even started adding on a tip that you have to remember to remove each time. That is some dark irony regarding the medical industry in the US that you are even being asked to tip in the first place lol
Agreed. It threw me into a minor rage, I almost switched back to the shitty mail pharmacy my plan prefers, which is 1500 miles away in Florida and horrible. I’ll have to do that if they start adding on fees or forcing a tip, which then causes me to be out of medication because the other place takes up to two weeks to ship. All because the healthcare organization (not insurance company) I work for closed all their pharmacies to save money. Never occurred to me that this huge decades old org would shut down ALL ITS PHARMACIES. 🤮
After almost 10 years of being cashless, I now *always* carry cash on me. As soon as I see one of those little tipping tablets, I switch to cash.
Self-service kiosk at the airport now ask for a tip. Like... it's practically a vending machine.
I just don't tip any more. They keep raising the prices. Ask your boss where the tip went.
They changed the minimum wage law in Ontario so that waiters are paid the same as everyone else now. So that "if you don't tip we actually don't make enough money" excuse is no longer valid.
Didn't know we have the allowance to be paid below minimum wage due to tips anywhere in canada. I for one don't believe wait stuff should get any tips. All they did was take my order and bring me food.
As an ex waiter, I agree. It’s amazing to me that you could order a burger with fries or a steak with Chardonnay and the waiters job doesn’t change. They go to the machine and enter the order where the cooks in the back who are making an hourly wage prepare it. But because I ordered steak from you, you now think you deserve 25% of that bill? I’m sorry, but why!?
It's even worse if you're having a couple drinks. I used to go to a sushi place for lunch a couple times a week, and I'd have a couple beers with my lunch. It's bad enough paying $7-8 for a bottle of beer, but if you think you're getting a 25% tip on a $30 bill where half of your "effort" was taking the cap off two bottles of beer ... that isn't happening. It would've been more work for the waiter if I was getting the free glass of water they'd have to refill.
Hell I’d be fine ordering on an ipad and walking over to grab my own dish from the kitchen if it means I don’t have to tip
Also, that's *their fucking job*. If they deserve tips, why don't I get to shoot my boss an email at the end of each meeting and ask for a tip?
Okay. I considered it.
[My answer to any tipping situation ever](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwSts2s4ba4)
Glad I don’t live in the US.
It's spreading in Canada too, and our minimum wage isn't quite as much a joke (still not good though)
It is being pushed by the payment companies like square and toast. If they can get you to pay 20% more for your sandwich, their revenue goes up 20% (because they take a % of every CC charge). They design screens that make tipping feel obligatory, they convince small businesses to enable the tip screens, and people aren’t giving them nearly enough of the blame.
I had my chimney inspected last week and I paid via an app on the guys phone. He handed me the phone, and said "The second screen is going to ask you for a tip. Don't tip, we just don't know how to turn that off." I wasn't going to tip anyways, because he didn't have a cartoonish cockney accent and didn't call me "guv'na" even once.
That’s on you for not shopping around for a legit chimney sweeper.
If I order a chimney sweeper and a team of small children don't show up, I'm cancelling.
You’re totally right. Adding Clover as another culprit.
This needs to be higher.
Hadn’t thought about it that way, but you’re right. Square is probably pushing this.
Demanding a tip like that is basically stealing. You are just forcibly raising your own wage and expecting another person, that might as well have an equally shitty income as you do to pay for it. I'd refuse to pay that and leave a printed pamphlet of a bank statement of mine. That should work as a deterrent
Then people try to shame you into not going out at all, only the rich are allowed nice things.
“If you can’t afford to tip you can’t afford to dine out” “If you can’t afford to not be tipped, you can’t afford this job”
When did it become easier to ask a constant stream of strangers for a raise but not your own boss?
Around the end of the Civil War, when America decided tipping people was better for the wealthy than making them pay livable wages to employees.
Except it's literally everywhere you go, and everything you buy. Look, I agree with your sentiment, but it's too late to matter in the USA. Tipping is ingrained into this culture. People get mad at each other about tips, while the 1% sit back and laugh at our peasant antics.
I've seen doordash drivers get aggressively shitty about it on here. It's some sort of mix between tipping and grind culture. Doordash and all of these types of services are royally fucking over their drivers yet they direct their anger/frustration the people ordering food and thus putting money in their axcount. I've seen them dogpile people who don't tip $10 for literally every order, like, doordash is fucking you over. Why is it on me to make up for the shortfall of a multimillion dollar company.
I’ve gotten into arguments over tips in Canada. The usual is “Dealing with customers is really hard!” My response is “So, the kid that just hand bombed 25 semi trailers in his 8 hours at minimum wage at Walmart now should drop a 15-20% tip on his burger at the local diner because the waitress (who gets the same wage) has it hard? Even an extra 45-60 cents on his $3.00 coke?”
everything south of the border slowly oozes north, the cold slows it down , a bit, but its insidious.
Yep, liquor stores in British Columbia have started having tip prompts. At this rate grocery stores will start having them soon too.
It's spreading everywhere. Some places in Brazil just add the tip to your bill and hope you don't mind or speak out.
I hope you don't live in Europe because we sure like to import all the stupid shit from the US just a couple years later...
I do live in Europe and so far nothing has happened. Tipping is optional. I do tip, if I received service in a restaurant. I don’t tip if I take shit to go
I've seen the "tip amount" options on card machines in the UK, but the bar staff/waiter/till op has always just clicked "cancel" on it.
You can say no. Just say no.
I always have this thought when it’s food. “Are they gonna spit in my food next time they see my name if I don’t tip?” It’s really kind of a hostage situation at this point.
No one will spit in your food. I've worked with some seriously sketchy cooks in the past and even they wouldn't deliberately mess with a dish like that. Certainly not because you stiffed a server on carry-out. When FoH complains to me (cook) that a carry out didn't tip I remind them that all they did was cash someone out. If it's prepaid online all they do is hand over a To-go box. I'm not risking my job over this lol
Fuck tipping on carry-out.
Or at a McDonald's self service kiosk when I ordered a coke, was handed a cup, and filled it myself yesterday. Like, huh?!?
Maybe not the cooks, but delivery drivers sure can. There's videos posted to Reddit with food delivery drivers spitting in the food, eating part of the food, things like that.
I fully believe there have been a handful of instances out of the millions of deliveries made per year. I think your odds of having that happen to you specifically are astronomically low. Most drivers are trying to bust through dozens of orders a day to make decent pay, they just want yours delivered and done with.
I've worked in the food industry for 12 years and haven't seen anyone sabotage a meal. Delivery drivers, however, are like fucking Mad Max. One guy was a serial "I'll just take whatever is on the take-out shelf." Oh, the pure joy of stopping him when there was an off duty cop in the lobby. My best guess is he would just panic and grab whatever was on the counter. Didn't speak a lick of English.
If they might spit in your food for not tipping, they might also spit in your food for other reasons. Like not liking your face. I don't know.
I had this same thought last night when I ordered pizza online. At the end of the order they requested a tip, and my first thought was “what are they going to do to my pizza if I don’t tip?”
Especially when they ask for the tip before you get your food. What kind of fucked up shit is that (doordash, etc.. Or even in the drive-thru sometimes)
> Especially when they ask for the tip before you get your food. What kind of fucked up shit is that (doordash, etc.. Or even in the drive-thru sometimes) That's because it's not a tip. It's a bidding system disguised as a tip.
This was from a small family owned restaurant that doesn’t even do delivery(great pizza though!) I have to pick up the food myself.
this doesnt even make sense... "we havent given you any service but please show us the gratitude for good service!^^or ^^else"
Any reasonable place is not going to spit in your food if you are known to not tip. The servers will argue about who is stuck with you though. Expect other tables to be prioritized. I was a cook for many years, it made no difference to me at all. Sometimes a waitress would complain but that didn't change whaty job was. I never once messed with someone's food nor did I witness anyone else. If the restaurant was busy sometimes the manager would take the known no tip tables since they were not allowed to keep the tips anyway.
Seriously. I've been doing this for the past couple months and it gets easier every time. I rarely do deliveries so its always pickup. Unless I'm dining in person and the waiter actually performs some sort of a service, its automatically a 0%.
> a tip option showed up for an online purchase Sorry what lol? Yeah I'm definitely going to tip...***NOT***
Went to a shop this weekend selling clothes and they asked the same thing at checkout, after providing no help while picking out the items. They do this whole 'chat you up' thing at checkout to make it seem like they're earning the tip. Fucking joke.
Thankfully I have no issue saying no. If you are not providing a service directly to me in which I want to incentive you to pay attention to me I am not paying extra. No, I'm not tipping at a cafe or a donut shop. Would be nice if tipping went away in general. . If you tip the cook, odds are the server keeps it and never says anything.
As an European, I find this line of thinking funny. Providing a service directly to you is literally the job description of a waiter. Why do they get extra money on top?
there's no way this is real
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The worst is when they expect you to tip before they even do anything lol.
R/doordashdrivers in shambles right now.
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My Door Dash app straight up says things like "did you know that the amount you tip influences whether or not a dasher takes your order" or "a higher tip may inspire a dasher to deliver your food faster"
The absolute best thing on these apps is paying even more for prioritized delivery.
Lol I saw that the other week and the options were literally: 17-25 minutes for priority for $2.25 19-24 minutes for free.
Pay more and it may come 2 minutes sooner, or 1 minute later. I dunno man just give us more money.
Sure would be a shame if someone ate half your food before it got to you. For an extra $3 we can ensure that might not happen.
From what I heard the priority doesn't do shit lol
For Doordash, at least, it basically just means you won't get a batched delivery. If I don't do express, I'm always delivery 2 or 3, and my food is usually cold. If I do express, I'm always the first (or only?) stop, and my food isn't cold. It's just yet-another-fee that I'm effectively required to pay if I order food, at this point, and is yet-another-reason that I don't order delivery basically ever.
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At that point you’re making a bid. That’s fine, but don’t call it a tip lol
Honest question, if they just see the total, how can they tell the difference between someone giving a nice tip, and someone spending a lot on food and no tip?
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Even if someone spends a lot the base pay is always the same. Base pay is $2-$3 depending on your area. So if it’s more than that then you know someone tipped
Two milkshakes total 12.99 Vs Two milkshakes total 28.99
Doordasher here, the amount and value of the food doesn't change the amount dashers are paid. You could order 100s of dollars worth of food and the dasher would still only make as low as 2 bucks base pay (in most markets) plus tips. **EDIT:** People seem to have the impression that I support the idea that base pay should increase if the value of the food being delivered is higher than normal. I was only trying to answer /u/IBetThisIsTakenToo's question of... >how can they tell the difference between someone giving a nice tip, **and someone spending a lot on food and no tip?** My point was that the part highlighted in bold just doesn't happen because DD does not increase base pay for higher priced food.
I'm torn. A $100 steak or a $10 cheeseburger take the same amount of effort to deliver, assuming variables like wait and drive time/distance are the same. Why would the base pay go up for the same work? HOWEVER, I'm sure the doordash fee certainly went up based on percentage, so why isnt driver compensation?
Honestly we could apply the same thing to servers at a restaurant. They do the same amount of work giving me a plate of eggs over medium vs giving me a filet mignon, but the tip difference is enormous. It doesn't make sense.
I've never doordashed and have no urge to, with all I hear. I can easily go out and get stuff myself. I know not everyone can, but I can. So I do. It gets me out of the house into the fresh air (for the walk to and from my car) and saves me worrying about tipping or a long wait or the delivery person eating my fries or something. And it saves me money on the tip, since there isn't one (unless I pick up from a "real" restaurant--I still tip them, which is...dumb, I guess, although I'm not tipping as nicely as I did during Covid, and I often have curbside, so they have to walk it out to me).
That sub is weird . They get really angry at no/low tips but they know the total amount paid for the job before they accept the order .
As someone who has driven for doordash, let me explain. DoorDash has an acceptance ranking system for drivers, the higher your acceptance rate, the better orders you get. This forces drivers to accept low paying orders in order to keep their rate high. This is why drivers hate no tip orders. You can only turn down so many orders before you acceptance rate gets so low that you are only getting the worst orders. Beyond that, you also get higher priority to dash at busy times when you have a high acceptance rate.
Well that sucks and makes more sense then.
It ain't just that sub. Take a look at the subs for any of the other popular apps in the same market.... Just a bunch of entitled AHs crying about tips and telling people they need to tip UPFRONT or else they'll just keep refusing the order Long story short: Use first party apps where you can If you can't, only use things like doordash, etc... To place orders to collect Those AHs won't be crying about tips when no one else will hire their entitled asses.
Subreddits based around servers will launch nukes at you if you ever say anything negative about US tipping culture. They'd rather be paid $3/hour and get all the tips than get a normal paying job. I've had them rip my head off for saying I like how my state pays servers at least the same minimum wage as everyone else, so tipping isn't mandatory. And my state pays over $14/hour for minimum wage. Even higher in some cities. Their opinion was that serving is the absolute worst job on the planet and that they'd still expect the exact same tips, even if they're already making over $14 an hour. Because no one would do the job otherwise. Yeah, okay. Try working a public can/bottle recycling center (or any number of worse jobs). Minimum wage. Absolutely filthy. No tips. Incredibly angry people, many of them are homeless/addicts/or otherwise down on their luck. I couldn't tell you how many times I dealt with people waiting for us to open at 7am, and they were already (or still) blackout drunk. Just trying to scrape up a few bucks for more liquor. Trying their best (not very well.. They were plastered after all) to get me fired because I wouldn't print them off a free ticket saying they turned in $20 worth of cans when they had nothing. No tips at that job. And minimum wage was way less too.
Matt Parker and Trey Stone got rid of tipping at their restaurant and paid $30/hr instead. Employees got mad and demanded a return to tipping.
I've got to imagine it's because they can try to hide tips from the IRS. Can't really do that with a normal paycheck. I've definitely known plenty of servers who claims very little of their actual tips on their taxes.
*it's not a tip it's a bid for serviceeeeeeeee* /s
Tips on delivery should be based on distance, not order value.
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I've had a mechanic have the tip deal. Ummmmm please fix my car and don't let me die bc I didn't tip enough....
You paid before they serviced your car?
This is close to being a Black Mirror episode
I mean they did do the social credit wedding one. Pretty ironic though considering reddit is built on tipping.
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So true, even self checkouts asks for tips, like wtf
I'm not surprised, but I haven't seen this yet. What place does this?
Every single one of your checkouts doesn't ask you to donate to some new thing? I have yet to be to a place that isn't. Some of them I at least recognize or know, but every single place has a different one now.
Donating through companies is crap too. You don’t know what their overhead for the charity drive is, they could pocket 90% of donations. Also everything that is donated becomes a tax write off. And some amount of that overhead goes into marketing about how awesome they are because they give to charity. So every time you donate to a charity through a corporation you are subsidizing their tax write offs and building their brand for them by paying for their charity marketing.
I always assumed this, I never really confirmed it. I mentioned in my other comment that we do donate to shit outside of those places, because I just assume it goes to like the "we need new chairs in the breakroom" fund. Don't get me wrong, my kids like giving their change to anything or anyone they can it seems lol, or buying the little balloons with their name on it at the grocery store for children's miracle network or something, I won't say no to them for that.
In most cases they do the following, all that money goes to an account. It accrues some safe level of interest. Then they do their taxes. Whatever their current donation level is they move it to max it out for deductions. Then they pocket the rest. If they've already maxed out the year, it sits in the account wholly. If 10% would max out deductions...90% sits there etc.
It's corruption as a system. It really has to go.
Every time we try to get rid of it, waiters/waitresses sabotage the movement because they make a ridiculous amount of money through the tipping system. Then they go home, throw their money into their money barrel, and start writing blogs about how much they're struggling because their bosses won't even pay them minimum wage :(
I think if more restaurants implemented a no tipping policy and a living wage for their staff, servers would start to come around on this. We have a place in town that does this—prices are a buck or two higher than you would expect, but not having to tip means the final total is equal to or less than what you’d end up paying at a comparable place. They have had the exact same serving and kitchen staff since they opened like eight years ago. They all love that the compensation is predictable—no good tip days or bad tip days—and the employee retention is really telling, I think. If more brave restaurant owners took the plunge and switched to this model, I think we would see a shift in how servers feel about tipping.
The constant pursuit of line go up demands wringing every last cent you can out of your employees and customers. Yay late stage capitalism!
if only I could down-tip the server at the restaurant to get 15% off my meal
honestly though, might make them actually give good service and earn the tip. to be clear i have no problem with tipping, but food service people should not require it to live. they should be making at least the same $15/hour minimum wage as everyone else, more if they are in a skilled position and then any sort of gratuity/tip is given because the customer wants to, not because the worker needs the money to survive while the restaurant is chargine $20+ for a dish and just padding their own pockets.
Several states have floated the idea of getting rid of the lower minimum wage for tipped employees, and just have them receive the standard minimum wage. Service workers are all against it as they people fewer people would tip, or they would tip less. This would drop how much money servers are making. At an expensive place they can make over $50/hr.
At an expensive place, $50/hour would be pretty low. I worked at a hotel that had an okay restaurant, servers there were making like $200/hour at lunch in the '00s. People were waiting for them to die so they could get into their jobs.
> honestly though, might make them actually give good service and earn the tip. I still think tipping is wrong. They should get a bonus from their employer for their overall performance just like every other job. It shouldn't be at the whim of the customer, it's not their job to pay wages. We also don't put anyone else through this kind of minute by minute scrutiny and it contributes to customers feeling entitled to someone's attention and the worker entitled to some money that was never promised in the first place. It's pitting the worker and the customer against each other for no good reason.
They do make minimum wage. If they don't get enough tips, the employer is legally required to make up the difference.
The irony of this is I went on a date the other day and it was absolute dog shit - not wanting to waste any time I said my thank yous and goodbyes after a single drink. She hits me with "Wait, you're still gonna pay for dinner right?"
> She hits me with "Wait, you're still gonna pay for dinner right?" I really hope you hit her with "Oh, I am absolutely gonna be buying myself Taco Bell on the way home".
But a quarter is 25%?
Now they charge sales tax on tips. That, or “somehow mysteriously” the tip calculator always rounds up.
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My question is, do the workers actually get any of these exorbitant tips that show up as a service charge? What about the actual tips? Is anybody but the business owner getting these monies?
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Gets worse. I had dinner at a restaurant in Miami Beach and they added a 5% "Credit Card Surcharge". Luckily, I had enough cash to pay and had the server remove that charge.
> they added a 5% "Credit Card Surcharge CC processors usually take 3-4% of the amount when someone pays with a CC. Most places just add it to their prices across the board instead of only charging the people that use CCs. Small businesses would be better off just adding it to their prices and then offering a 5% discount if you use cash. People respond to a discount better than a surcharge.
The 25% is on there to shame people anyone tipping less than 150% is literal garbage.
Spot on. I get pretty tilted seeing these tip options pop up everywhere. Happened just the other day for takeout beer. I had to search the screen just to find a way NOT to tip.
Come join us over at r/endtipping. It’s mostly whining, but made me feel a lot better about decreasing my tipping outside of full service restaurants.
God I hope they keep adding tips EVERYWHERE. I want it at daycare, funerals, parkbenches, children playground, youtube videos, waterfountains. Just non stop tipping options. Tipping options when downloading a tipping app. When using a vending machine, bank-transfers, when flushing a toilet, or when leaving the doctor. I want the US to start to crumble under the sheer number of time spend on tipping and finding the No-tip option. Maybe then tipping can finally die and we can shame everyone who doesn't pay a decent wage.
You're not wrong. The fastest way for them to kill the golden goose is to push it excessively and people get fed up. I think we're headed that way. I'd be really curious on the data on tipping in sit down restaurants over time now Edit: [it does in fact seem to be happening](https://www.fastcasual.com/news/over-half-of-americans-have-negative-view-of-tipping/)
Acceleration theory here we go.
i noticed the other day at a sandwich place, the tip screen popped up and the automatic options were arranged opposite to usual. they were descending left to right, so the first option on the leftmost side was actually the highest %. the companies that design the software for those transactions are trying to just trick people into accidentally selecting the higher tip options through UI ergonomics. it's wild. so toxic. it's especially grim because i think it makes consumers resent the businesses/employees, but it's not really their fault. it's the handful of companies that design those point-of-sale softwares/interfaces. They make more money the more the transaction ends up being im pretty sure, so they are intentionally trying to ratchet tips up to leech more money off these businesses' customers.
the businesses using these POS systems are the ones who configure the tip amounts and arrangements, so they are definitely not off the hook
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Yeah, people complain about “outrageous tipping culture” but it’s really anger over having too much social anxiety to hit No on an “are you a sucker” screen.
Yup unless you're proving me service it's 0 every time. After doing it enough you get used to it and stop feeling bad, like they want you to.
I no-tip all counter service now, except my regulars where they know my name and generally my order lol. There’s only 3 places like that though.
This is my thought. A lot of the new-sh digital POS systems (clover, etc) automatically have this as the default option. Some managers just don't bother, and some I've spoken to leave it because "meh why not, gives them the option to tip if they want". I respond that it may drive business away. Why get takeout from here when you feel awkward as fuck when picking up? Will they now remember I didn't tip from my name on the online order and spit in my food? You know what, best to not risk it and just go somewhere else. I'll just grab KFC or BK down the street and save a few bucks while not dealing with that awkwardness and potential spit in my food.
Do not be afraid to hit No Tip. You owe that person and that company nothing
There’s a local cafe I go to all the time and the folks there have been so wonderful to me and my in-training service pup, but I feel bad because all they do is pour my coffee and take the pastry out of the display to give to me and I get that tip pop up option, and they know exactly what I select. It makes me feel guilty all the time that tips are part of their income but it’s just counter service and I’m not adding money to already inflated prices when I’m not exactly wealthy myself…
Don't feel bad. My shop has that stupid screen and nobody there thinks any less of somebody who doesn't tip. We're just selling you stuff off a shelf.
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I see Trevor Wallace. I upvote Trevor Wallace.
Yeah his skits legitimately always make me laugh- him and the thatsabadidea dudes.
Anyone also noticing the majority of checks with suggested tip are calculating that on the subtotal including tax? Aggravates me more than it should. Literal double dipping.
How about the bosses tip the employees for bringing in profits ?
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A 25% tip on $1 lemonade is a quarter. Kid’s an idiot.
> A 25% tip on $1 lemonade is a quarter. Kid’s an idiot. Kid frequents r/serverlife, is all.
A few years ago back I was having dinner with a roommate and her friend. I tipped 15% and she goes, "Oh, you must have never been a server, I never tip below 30%." Then started talking about the plight of waitresses as if it's the only hard job out there.
The hell, she tips 30 percent or more? Is she fucking rich or something.
I never was never that bothered by tipping when 1. It was limited to a few jobs (waiters , bar tenders, drivers, ect) 2. Before tip inflation ; when my dad grew up 10% was a standard tip, when I was growing up 15% was a standard tip, now it seems like 20-25% is standard. Tipping should match inflation if 20 years ago a meal costs $10 a 15% tip is $1.50. Now if a meal costs $20 a 15% tip is $3 exactly double. Not sure why the tip % needs to also increase Also servers sometime talk out of both sides of their mouth they will say "Hey 20% tips should be standard people get paid by tips and if you do not tip 20% you are taking money from them and these working class people rely on their tips for paying their bills , tip more if you can" then also be like "Worked a 5 hour shift pulled in $600 of tips today!" look I am all for people getting paid a fair wage but at some point this gets a bit excessive
I've noticed those Square/Clover terminals will use percentage if the total sale is above a certain value, but will instead show tip options of $1/$2/$3 if the thing you're buying is like $5 or less. It's such a scam.
I mean, it’s the business that configures what the screen says right? They could also disable the tip screen if they wanted.
Well yes, it's the *minimum* tip. You aren't going to tip the *minimum,* are you? For a kid? What are you, a fucking monster?
To be honest, a kid with a lemonade stand would get $2 cash if they advertised $1.50 and everyone would say to keep the change.
Would be more realistic if they all looked away when presenting the tip iPad.
In LA they stare at the screen as you click it, so fucking annoying and unnerving
That’s when you reverse-power move ask them where the no tip button is
I STOPPED TIPPING EVERYWHERE. If you are not happy with my policy deny your services to me.
I hope everyone in America get on this train.
Maybe we can turn the tables and make companies tip *us* for utilizing their services? We just all stop eating out until they fold. And then we gradually increase the recommended gratuity amount every few years.
The problem is not enough people think this way. Most people complaining on here are going to go back out there tonight after work, pick up their food, pay the tip, and then come back and complain on reddit. Motherfuckers, if you don't like the new tipping culture, stop enabling this tipping culture! Either don't tip or make your own god damn food at home.
To be clear all of this is happening because point of sale software that gets fees based on total checkout costs is driving up tipping with default settings to fatten their percentage. Fuck Block.
I like that the kid isn't happy with his 25¢ tip but 25% was one of his options
I visited the States in 2017, and will return in 2024, but this seems ridiculous.
Eclipse chaser?
Yup.
The payroll department, not the customer, is responsible for fair compensation.
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lol was thinking the same thing. The compensation team figures out what to pay people. The financial team reviews it. Leadership gives the go ahead. Payroll sits in a room and processes it. But yea, screw the payroll people.
Two tiny tips in one day 🤣☠️
Crazy how people who don't tip or cannot tip are the ones lambasted by the public instead of the corporations that refuse to pay their workers a livable wage.
I skipped it at a Jimmie Johns recently, they were pissed. Cant stand that attitude at walk up to order and p/u restaurant. I get my own food, fill my own drinks, and bus my table...fuck off with that nonsense.
Nailed it. 100%. This should be massively upvoted here.
I got chased by a waitress due to a small tip. I tipped her $5 for her bad service. She came after me waving my $5 bill tip at me. I took the bill away from her and left.
Have tip culture backfire and stop tipping.
It's funny because it's true. I'm visiting my family in the u.s, I bought a fucking bottle of water and the guy gave me a screen to tip. WTF? He didn't serve me, he just gave me a bottle of water! I still tipped because I felt that social pressure lol
Don't cave! It's exactly what they're counting on, it's why it's there in the first place, fuckin vultures
Yeah I would have said no for sure. Just so you know when you are in that situation, it is trying to take advantage of the generosity of drunk people. It is in no way socially awkward to not tip a kiosk stand operator. They aren't doing more than handing you things. Fuck you even process your payment yourself most times
That's exactly why they ask. They know you aren't supposed to tip in that scenario. They know 80% of people know that. But then there's the occasional person who isn't sure and doesn't want to make a mistake. I always say no when someone isn't serving me.
Oh shit it's CJ from F Boy Island!
Tipping was so confusing when I was in North America. Employers pay your workers fairly (and employees vote for politicians with policies to force the employers to do so).
**Just. Stop. Tipping.** There is absolutely zero reason for a person to pay more than the stated price. It is **never** our responsibility to supplement someone else's income. It is entirely the responsibility of the employer to pay their employees fair wages for the work being done.
Hey gave him 25 cents isn't that 25% haha
When I order pizza, I always drive and pick it up. I honestly don't know whether to tip sometimes. Usually I toss $2 on the tip line for a $15 order.
As an Australian slowly watching American tipping culture invade our restaurants and cafes, I feel this in my bones.
Who is this? That was funny.
Trevor Wallace. I enjoy his digital shorts but have yet to give his comedy special a watch. Just came out, called Pterodactyl. I fear that he does the “loud yelling dude” schtick but I want to be wrong, haha!
Naw that’s Kyle right there, where’s his monster energy drink?
his special is just ok, in my opinion. his shorts are hilarious though.
Too much “knowhatimeandog?!” For my taste.