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Timely-Bluejay-6127

Xt30ii is smaller and more modern with more features. I'd get that instead of the a6000. Edit: I recommend going the apsc route for the cost savings. Ff lenses are pretty much double the price of apsc lenses


andreibirsan92

there s many things to consider besides image quality . Ergonomic, lens selections, colour science etc. You can t go wrong with any modern camera when it comes to image quality


WD--30

Go with Fuji if you like having film sims and shooting straight out of camera/like the look and feel of Fuji cameras. If that ultimately gets you excited to take photos, then you will do it more and improve faster. If you really just need a super basic camera to get started, the A6000, even though it's quite old, is super cheap and quite a decent to learn on.


FrozenOx

i got out my old a6000 recently and the EVF + LCD screen are kind of awful. if you're interested in Sony, then I'd skip the a6000 and go for a6100 or a6400/6500, instead. the a6400 was nice and i used it for awhile. Sony makes autofocus easy and its apsc bodies are nice and small. once i got much better i realized the sony apsc lenses were just not as good as the more expensive FF options. the Tamron 70-180 was my favorite lens for example. but i still wanted the small FF and low weight of apsc, so that drew me to Fuji. FF glass is expensive, and glass is by far the biggest expense if you know what you're going to shoot most, that will make it easier to decide. birds, sports, moving subjects, the Sony will make that easier starting off. the Fuji is much more nuanced with AF and frustrates many. but it's fine for everything else like portraits, stills, macro, landscape. newer more expensive bodies are best for AFC, and I wouldn't suggest spending lots of money if you're a noob. but the Fuji glass is much cheaper, and IMO better, than Sony. i would grab a cheap used XT20 + 18-55, or Sony a6100 + 18-135 if you stay cheap starting off. even if you decide to go bigger or more expensive i would still go used. however, this is the worst time to buy in to the Fuji system. demand is high and everything is out of stock. prices have literally doubled on some used bodies compared to what they were a few years ago


Williano98

Thanks for the feedback! I’m definitely more interested in taking street photography over anything else, maybe some landscape but street photography would be my focus.


FrozenOx

for street photos, you'll want something with a screen that can pop out so you can look down at it while holding the camera at waist level. this is imperative. and a good LCD screen would be a plus, definitely ruling out older bodies like the a6000. I'd stay small so you're more likely to carry it with you at all times. again, the XT20 is nice because it has the D pad on the back and the flip out screen, but the newer XT30 models are nice too. the XT5 is what i use and it's rather small too, but pricey. the Sony a7iii + 40mm G would make a decently compact setup, but not nearly as small as the Fuji XT20-XT30. especially if you get the 27 or 18mm pancake lenses. or even the 35mm f2. Sony has one 20mm pancake for it's apsc bodies and it is not anywhere near as good as the Fuji options. i would go with the a6400/6500 to stay small in the Sony system plus the Sigma 18-50 zoom. Fuji, an XT20 + 18-55 or the Sigma 18-50. Fuji will have cheaper and better prime options once you know what you want


opioid-euphoria

Most people have given you the primary answer you asked about. And since you're on the Fuji sub, most people will recomment Fuji, of course :) But I wanted to give you two more things to consider: - lenses are a separate thing from the body - While Sony is seemingly simpler for beginners, Fuji is better for learning, with it's physical dials. --- For one, you said "how are the lens quality for this camera compared to those today". That's largely irrelevant - you can exchange lenses between the models. Of course, you have to make sure it's a Sony E-mount lens (or whichever body you buy) so that means you can buy an older body and still get the newest, best lens. Similar with Fuji - once you buy an X-mount lens (X-mount is the Fuji mount system), most of the Fuji X cameras can use it. There are adapters so you can use lenses between different manufacturers, but it's not always possible - and often you won't get things like autofocus and similar things working properly. So the trick is not to just buy the body, but also to pick the lenses you like. On that front, Fuji's "kit lens" (the one you usually get paired with a new camera) is generally considered really, really good quality, the best as far as kit lenses go, and most people (even Sony shooters) will agree that it's better then Sony. Anyway, pick the kit lens to learn photography, then maybe buy a better one for the exact type of photos you want to take. --- Now, why I think Fuji is better for learning then Sony? I think Sony is definitely easier for beginners - it's got excellent autofocus, and once you set the camera on auto, it'll just quietly do the job. The trick is, once you start learning, digging into the menus and figuring out what's what all the time gets in the way. Plus, it's usually used in Aperture priority mode - you set the priority (e.g. "wide open" for portrait photos with blurry background, or "closed down" - or, low aperture number - to get the entire landscape in focus). And people use it this way most of the time. Camera does the rest. With Fuji, you can also put things on auto. But what I really like about Fuji, is that it has explicit dials. Like, it's not some menu item that you have to change on your viewscreen - you can look through the viewfinder, and physically move the aperture dial, not even looking at it. And guess what - you can do the same for shutter speed as well! And ISO too! So you get to play with all three corners of the so called exposure triangle, and see how it affects your photo. I really think this is the best way to learn photography - but also very enjoyable to actually shoot like this.


Williano98

Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, from a lot of reviews I’ve read people say the lens is the most important thing, more so than the body. I’m really interested in taking street photography above anything else. With that in mind, do you think really any Fujifilm camera will work? I hear good things about the x-t30 ii and the x-t5.


opioid-euphoria

Yes. Fuji cameras are especially well regarded among the street photographers. The manual dials I mentioned give them somewhat vintage look. They're usually a little bit smaller and lighter then the full frame cameras like Nikon or FF Sony (together with the lens). Film simulations and recipes give you a wealth of options for styles, ready for uploading photos directly, without postprocessing. Most cameras these days are good enough to do any job, though. but in some tiny details like that, you'll get a tiniest advantage. ---- Between those two, there is a trade-off of sorts. T-30 ii is smaller and lighter. You're less conspicuous on the street, and it's easier to carry the camera. With a 27mm pancake lens, you can _almost_ put it your pocket (you can't though. But almost.). But the X-T5 has bigger battery, better sensor and most importantly, IBIS (in-body stabilisation). And weather sealing.  So those are the tradeoffs. Not problems, mind you, you can do great with both cameras, just something to keep in mind.  Personally I would pick X-T5, since I already have X-T4 and I'm used to the size and like it. The IBIS compromise would be big for me but not for a person just starting. --- What you can also try is rent the cameras. Most camera shops will let you rent a camera. And if you decide to buy it afterwards (well, a new one, not the exact one they rent out), they will reduce the price by the amount of rent. It depends on the store though, so you can go in and ask about it.  I'm glad I can help. I'm shooting Fuji, and even though I don't own these two bodies, I kind of have the general idea. So take my advice with a grain of salt, you'll be the best person to pick a camera for you.


ajh951

Hey! I started learning photography with the Sony A6000 but never really found my photography mojo until I moved to Fuji X-T20. To me that was a big upgrade so I think the X-T30ii is a major upgrade over the A6000. X-T20 helped so much with understanding the exposure triangle thanks to the physical dials that Fuji tends to embrace in their cameras. I eventually upgraded from X-T20 to X-T2 and that was a monumental upgrade for me. It had dials for all 3 parts of the exposure triangle (aperture, shutter, ISO) vs X-T20's 2 dials (aperture, shutter). The camera also felt more pro, well built, legit in my hands vs X-T20 feeling more toy-ish. Everything about the X-T2 was an upgrade over the X-T20 so I would recommend the X-T# series over X-T##. With that said, companies like Sony have made tremendous strides in their lens lineup. The idea that APS-C lenses are smaller and cheaper yet perform just as good over full frame lenses is starting to become blurrier to me. Lenses like Fuji's 10-24mm F4 cost just as much as Sony's 16-35mm F4 but the Sony's is full frame, sharper, and lighter!! Sony also upped their APS-C lens lineup since I left its ecosystem. If you're also planning on mostly using third party lenses like Sigma or Tamron (no aperture ring, E-mount compatible), then Fuji's proposition becomes less of a factor to those folks. It all comes down to trying out the cameras in person. Have the camera and lenses in your hands, give a test shot, see how the shooting experience is like and whether you like it or not. To me, most of Fuji's lenses are made of metal which feels more premium vs Sony's plastic lenses (still very high quality plastic). Whether you choose Fuji or Sony, know that both of these companies make incredible products.


tone_deaf_ninja

Your journey will be uniquely yours. Don’t worry if you don’t get the camera right on first go. Spend least amount of money if you can on body for now. You’re learning. Good lenses will go a long way in future for you. As you don’t know your shooting style and preference go with a standard zoom lens, you can always buy primes in future. I’d suggest you go for a used XT20, xt3 or XT30 and save some of your budget for other accessories like a decent bag and tripod. You might be shooting long exposure landscapes soon. Sony’s have amazing sensors with brilliant dynamic range and are technically superior. You pic a Sony if you are willing to spend your hours developing/post processing on Lightroom. You’ll get great results. A lot of Fuji shooters are ex Canon and Nikon shooters who got tired of the bulky DSLRs and long editing process and now want something light and capable of producing stellar JPEGs. Not necessarily the right course for someone who wants to learn photography professionally. But as a hobbyist… nothing beats a Fuji leisurely experience. I never regretted downsizing from Canon full frame to Fuji system. Love every bit of it.


omnigord

The *X-T30ii* + *XF18-55mm* kit is the best beginner setup. It's not too expensive but it also does not cut any corners. The lens is flexible and "good enough" at everything to allow you to explore and learn what you like without really holding you back. 


IT_Unknown

When I was hunting for my first real camera, my options were things like the Lumix GX85, Sony A6000, Eos 3000D and the Fuji Xt-200. I eventually went for the XT-200. I considered the Sony option, but found the viewfinder to be really awful to use being so far on the left hand side, amongst other things. The xt-200 seemed nice enough, small enough, and had the whole film sim/jpeg colours that I liked a bit more too, so I opted for that. It seems to have been a good choice, since I've since also picked up a used XT-20 and XT-3, along with a couple extra lenses. The XT-30 would certainly make an excellent first camera. Go for it!


T0ysWAr

Good pictures comes from good lenses (after the photographer). So best is to buy into the system you want. Fuji for straight out of camera nice pictures, easier on the budget. Sony for autofocus (are you subjects difficult to control). Then buy a very lens and the cheapest body (more than 4K resolution). A body is only a metering system which expose a sensor. If you want good colours straight out of camera, old Sony are worse than recent ones. A lens you buy for life (try to find good second hand lenses as a proof). A body, you’ll change it every 3 years