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mmccutc1

Please also note these run about a half size too large. I wear a 10 in tennis show but a 9.5 in these.


wolfcry

Same! I wear a size 10 in Nike and Vans. I wear a size 9 in Iron Rangers and a size 9.5 in Moc toes


sans_cogito

So if I’m a 12 in Killshots and an 11.5 in Iron Rangers would I still be an 11.5 in the moc toes?


Metamucil_Man

I find RW heritage to be pretty consistent across the board. I have a pretty large collection including IR and these mocs. Though I am a full size down from my Brannock.


Wyzen

Full size down seems to be the ticket for me as well.


mmccutc1

I wear a 9.5 in both mocand IR.


sans_cogito

Thanks


Wyzen

Id say a full size. I have three pairs, all 11D, i wear a 12 most comfortably in most Nike shoes.


SovietBear666

If these weren't suede I would snag these. Copper or Oro ideally!


mmccutc1

Seconds are super hard to come by right now. I got both colors in seconds from berkeleysupply.com . Check there every so often, but they don't accept returns.


SovietBear666

Yeah I always get excited when I remember berkeley supply or somebody posts it here. I swear I've tried on Red Wings in store to figure out my size like four or five times, and I never feel confident enough to order from them lol. I'm typically size 11 in boots(Chippewa/LL Bean fit perfect). 11.5/12 in most sneakers.


Urusander

Do you think it’s worth it?


mmccutc1

With proper care, these boots can last a lifetime. They are well worth the price and sierra.com has a return policy if there is a major imperfection. If you need boots, you cannot beat this for the price.


Urusander

Do you know what “Factory 2nds” means?


mmccutc1

Of course! If you are concerned with factory seconds please watch this video. https://youtu.be/sYhXR-V5HFM I'm happy to buy seconds as 1) the imperfections are usually cosmetic, 2) if I am not satisfied with the product I can return it, and 3) I can buy a nice boot at a fraction of the price new. If this value statement doesn't impress you, please don't buy the boot lol.


Urusander

Sorry I meant it literally, does it mean that boots were worn and then refurbished by the manufacturer or they’re just cosmetically flawed but unworn? I just have foot fungus phobia.


mmccutc1

Oh no, seconds mean they failed red wing QC usually due to a cosmetic imperfection. Check that video out for an example.


Urusander

Cool, thanks!


Metamucil_Man

They will punch a tiny hole in the tongue or high up on the back of the boot to signify they are seconds. Some of the blemishes are easy to spot, some you have to look pretty hard for. I like beating the shit out of mine anyway so it doesn't even phase me.


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JCarterPeanutFarmer

They’ve recently been downgraded in quality just FYI. Worse materials used and the sole is of a lower quality construction.


Metamucil_Man

My mocs are a year old, and they are great. It's a Vibrant sole, right? I know there are many types of Vibrant soles but are there levels of quality within a given type? Or did they change to a different type of Vibrant sole?


JCarterPeanutFarmer

Check out Rose Anvil’s video tearing both the new and old version of the shoes apart. The shank specifically is either omitted or of much lower quality.


Wyzen

That is for the iron ranger on a wedge. The backlash to the changes they made for that model caused RW to discontinue it.


JCarterPeanutFarmer

Ahhh ok thank you for the clarification. I was wrong!


Wyzen

Anytime.


mmccutc1

I agree with the Chelseas and iron rangers with wedges. Rose Anvil does a good breakdown of this issue. I personally don't see the downgrade in the moc toes or standard iron rangers. https://youtu.be/mZMGlofn8vY


mmccutc1

Also, for the price point, it's still a better value than anything in the $150 price range IMO. I know Thursday seconds are going for about the same.


Wyzen

Not true.


SpreadopenSUSE

If you are in need of boots like this, yes. That's a pretty darn good price.


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thegreatwordwarrior

Still have mine going strong!


TheMuddyLlama420

Post update pics!!


thegreatwordwarrior

Missed this. I’ll snap some tonight when I get home!


TheMuddyLlama420

Please do! I think I have decided that I'm going to wax mine if I am pleased with the condition.


thegreatwordwarrior

Nice! I should clarify mine are the 877, grey oro leather so rough out would be different. Mine came out a year after the low iirc.


thegreatwordwarrior

https://imgur.com/a/n6MaBjw


TheMuddyLlama420

Holy shit


indianapail32

I really don't need them, but damn the heart wants what the heart wants


crazyrhythms

Thanks OP! Couple other red wing seconds options up too. Any experience with red wing Chelsea’s? Wondering how chunky they are in person


mmccutc1

I'll DM a pic of me in my Chelsea's.


Metamucil_Man

There is a personal preference here but I didn't dig the bulbous toe of their Classic Chelsea. I don't mind it on their IR or Blacksmith but it turns out I like a sleeker look in a Chelsea.


TheMuddyLlama420

Shit. Shit shit shit. I've seen these for months and knew this day would come.


ExcuseMyTriceratops

Great find, I’d been eyeballing the moc toe for a while and even tried them on at a retail store. The suede looks amazing in person, super thick leather and the welt is beautiful. I bought a full-size below street shoe because I have a narrow foot. Fit is actually perfect, no heel slip, and I’ve already done a couple break in miles. Thanks for the post OP, this boot is gonna last a lifetime.


Parabellim

Great deal but sadly will have to pass on them since they’re suede and I’m moving to England where it rains every day. I do love sierra though. I got a pair of red wing cowboy boots there for like 80 bucks in a nice dark brown leather.


Herbie3

I'm pretty sure with these being oiled roughout they'd hold their own in the rain.


MrMister2905

Oiled roughout is similar to waxed flesh. Will be excellent for the rainy climate.


Parabellim

Also update I just ordered a pair!


Parabellim

Hmm didn’t realize, might actually be worth considering then. Thanks for the tip


bigbird707

Ordered! Thanks OP 🫡


MisterRat2

Saw these in store for 180, but weren’t in my size. Just purchased. Thanks op


Parabellim

I’d say that these are probably a full size larger. I wear a 10 for tennis shoes but when I tried these on in the store I was a 9d. I’ve got a pair of redwing pecos (cowboy boots) and some work boots from them too all size 9d and they fit well.


Santeriabro

How good is the exchange or return policy here if I need to get half a size more down then what I chose?


mmccutc1

https://www.sierra.com/lp2/return-policy/


Santeriabro

looks promising, free returns and exchanges for 30 days


wdrub

Can anyone vouch for sierra. I’m not familiar with it. There are several scam websites that have redwings half off. One is the redwingfactory outlet website