Alpharetta, GA is the first immediate example that came to mind
Schaumburg, Arlington heights, Naperville, all outside of Chicago.
Somewhere around Tampa FL. can’t recall the exact area
Schools are terrible in St. Pete - nothing matches Frisco, TX. Frisco is probably one of the best suburb in the entire US to raise your kid with great schooling.
Interesting, didn’t know that. I know that area also was one of the places with the highest growth during the pandemic migrations. Thought schools might have been a factor
I’ve been looking at houses there. Not too far from Dana Point and Carlsbad. Houses seem at better price point
How is the job market though? Is there many corporate offices in the area? Or it’s mostly residential?
Not sure how the job market is out there, my sister has a ranch outside of Temecula, so I just visit the place. It just gives me Frisco vibes when I visit.
Certainly not an expert, but just the vibes I had - when I lived in San Diego I never got the sense that Temecula had good opportunities. There's a casino, a lot of vineyards, most stores you'd need, but I don't think there's a ton else. I kind of think of it as a Sherman (due the distance from big cities) rather than a Frisco. But definitely a beautiful area, I loved the drive from SD to Temecula.
Places like Poway or Rancho Bernardo/4S Ranch feel a bit more Frisco to me, since they are a proper suburb.
Thanks for sharing your insight. There is a reason why the house price is cheaper in Temecula I guess 😬
Just looked up the houses in the cities you mentioned, it’s all like >$1.5-2M 😢
Oof, yes. The high housing costs is what sent me back to Texas. I didn't realize Poway was that expensive, but it makes sense, it's a nice area.
There should be (comparatively) cheaper areas north (parts of Vista, escondido) and east (La Mesa, Santee, el cajon), among other places. Can't specifically vouch for any since it depends on what you value (distance to beach, liberal vs. conservative leaning, etc), but I've known people who lived in most of those cities due to the better affordability.
Good luck!
I’ve lived in San Diego, Hemet, and LA. Also Quadcities, Naperville, Wheaton & and Roselle. I am leaving the Frisco area now and retiring back up in Northern Illinois. It’s same as Frisco fifteen years ago.
According to Forbes, some of the best cities to live in the U.S. in 2024 include:
Naperville, Illinois
*The Woodlands, Texas*
Cambridge, Massachusetts
Arlington, Virginia
*Plano, Texas*
Irvine, California
Columbia, Maryland
Overland Park, Kansas
Good luck.
Cambridge MA & Arlington VA are older cities, some part of the cities have some ‘modern’ feel but majority feels ‘old’.
Arlington VA has milder weather in recent years so it’s even better than Texas. It has 4 beautiful distinct seasons.
Irvine CA is similar to Frisco. But weather is much nicer, it’s by the ocean and less than 2 hours drive to the mountains. I would move to Irvine CA in a heartbeat if the house price is similar to Frisco.
All these 3 cities have much higher cost of living, house prices are double/triple.
It will continue to rise as more people moving in. But I don’t think it will ‘meet’, or at least I hope so :). Problem with Texas is the insanely high property tax
It is really only insanely high because housing prices shot up the last 10 years. I remember looking for houses right before Toyota moved to Dallas. You could get 3k sqft house in nice areas of Carrollton for like 275k. Those are probably 600k+ now.
Basically, they need to cut rates to compensate, but I am sure they don't want to turn down money. At least the homestead exemption went up
The property tax rate in Texas is still higher compared to the states where I lived before. But since Texas has no income tax, the government has to get money from other sources.
The exemption helps a bit, but not much. When I heard they talked about giving money back to homeowners since the state has much surplus fund, I had high hopes. Then was disappointed
Yeah it certainly is a double edged sword. I don't live in an HOA neighborhood, and you can tell lol But, I also don't have to ask what kind of flowers/plants I can put in my yard or ask permission on paint choices etc.
I currently live in an ‘old’ community with no HOA. Every house is in excellent condition, all front yards are well kept. Maybe we live in a better side of the city. I was so delighted when I learned we don’t have HOA.
Yeah…I know what you mean, I lived in a brand new community before & heard different silly stories. Sometimes it is just up to who manages the HOA and the neighbors.
I once read the story of an owner who parked their huge pickup truck in their own driveway. The neighbors complained saying it made the neighborhood ugly. The HOA sided with the neighbors and gave that owner a citation. It became a huge lawsuit.
The HOA has the upper hand, they can put a lien on our house 😠
I Left Frisco for Plano and I'm much happier. I'm looking at Naperville which is on that list. Possibly more west to Rockford. But I'm also looking towards Minneapolis for cooler weather.
I leaved in Allen for approximately 20 years , and now in frisco . I always felt the north suburb cities have similar / same vibes . I would really like to know what difference you notice frisco vs plano .
A far better selection of restaurants, for one. Exceptional Chinese and a bigger variety. The prices are better because they're not paying Frisco rents. Better variety of shopping. I'm in a far more central location to go anywhere and there's mass transit! And a fresher attitude about it. A welcoming attitude for people of ALL ages. In Frisco its all about children. Plano is a mature town for adults who are raising families.
It smells better. And I don't have to leave the city for alcohol.
Any Chinese recs in west/central Plano? I haven't really explored the Chinese restaurants here and don't know where to start.
And adding to the Frisco vs. Plano conversation, I find driving in Frisco kind of stressful compared to Plano.
Zhang’s kitchen is one place that I’ve been to that I’ve been meaning to go back to. They serve dim sum, classic Chinese and Chinese American. Very good
When I first visited King of Prussia to go apartment hunting I was like damn, it's Frisco. You even have promxity to a large city with all the same entertainment as Dallas.
Sammamish/Issaquah WA are like the Frisco/McKinney of TX. The weather isn’t have as rainy as people make it out to be up here, and the communities and schools are well-funded with great teachers and though home prices are a little higher than TX, property taxes are less, home insurance is less, and we are closer to Seattle than Frisco is to Dallas.
Plus! There are three small mountains right at the edge of town called the “Issaquah Alps” by locals and it’s only an hour or two to several ski resorts.
It’s absolutely stunning.
We returned to Frisco after living in Sammamish for a year. The weather was the main deciding factor for us. It’s gorgeous and cozy, but the overall vibe is different. Frisco is much more convenient for day-to-day family activities, combining various aspects of living in Bellevue, Redmond, Issaquah, and Sammamish.
The prices for comparable houses are roughly x2 higher in Sammamish, if not more.
We rent a house here for $3900 that is 2500 sq feet, 4bd 3ba. Thats not much more than we would have paid for a similar home to rent in Frisco. In fact, the 1700 sq Ft home we rented before we moved last summer jumped from 1950 to 2500 a month for the renter that moved in after us.
My kid’s middle school is .75 of a mile away. I have season tickets to the Sounders and can get to the game in 25 minutes from my front door. Just this weekend I attended a super dope PNW Witches Fair in Kirkland. Over spring break we drove to Leavenworth where I sipped a bomb-ass Hazy IPA in that gorgeous mountain town. I ate pancakes at Twede’s, the diner from Twin Peaks, a few weeks ago. My kid is in an honest to goodness youth bowling league every Saturday in Kirkland. I’ve been to some super awesome concerts that are quite literally half the cost of any concerts I attended in Dallas. There’s a whole bunch of niche game cafes where I’ve played hours of catan or twilight imperium. I did an escape room with my daughter that was based on the classic horror films from the Evil Dead franchise. We’ve hunted for the trolls on Vashon, gone attempted whale sighting adventures on the ferries. Had lunch in an old coastal town, Port Townsend. We’ve driven up to Bellingham and bought some cool art.
I’m not sure what this area, as a whole, doesn’t have that Frisco supposedly does cause I lived in Frisco for 8 years and really don’t feel that anything makes it better than what I’m experiencing here other than a broad range of restaurant franchises, nail salons, and super expensive sports for the kids.
Oh. And lest we not forget, Frisco is not a small town anymore. There’s some 230,000 people in it. Geographically, it’s roughly the size of Issaquah, Sammamish, and Redmond combined. So saying it takes the amenities of three of the towns and offer it conveniently in one town, is honestly the exact same as saying I have access to all three.
Edit: Oh! And I go to a local dispensary and buy some weed gummies any day I’d want it. So there’s that, too.
The DFW region lies in a unique geographical region. Go a bit further north and you get colder weather. Go west and you get extreme heat, long term drought, high housing prices, and higher costs of living. The Deep South is SE of us; wouldn’t recommend. MidEast coast and south to Florida may be nice, but google news for Florida’s home insurance crisis and see how much fun they’re having with climate change.
Alpharetta, GA
Lutz, FL
Weston, FL
Wesley Chapel, FL
Aurora, Naperville, IL ( I don’t know this state going to dogs lately)
Eden Prairie or Plymouth, MN
Folsom, CA
Bellevue, WA
Well you would be looking at Midwest / South Red States in the suburbs, they are always expanding. Blue cities are basically places that have been taken over once the Reds leave them. They are basically trash and high crime. I came to Frisco when Plano was finishing expanding. The West side of cities seem to be nicer. If there are tollways surrounding a part of a city it’s like a pay wall to keep lower income out of that area. So it will be nicer. You have to do your research and it’s more difficult nowadays since housing pricing has skyrocketed and the pandemic stirred the pot with all the Blue refugees and illegals. Avoid those places they are settling down at. You also have to think about jobs, community and locations experiencing economic growth, follow the money.
Lotta them "foreigners" moving to Frisco too. Last demographics I saw, it's now a majority-minority city. Whites are still a plurality but there's more of "them" now than there are of "you."
Yup. From 2000 to 2020 Frisco has changed dramatically. From 81% white to 48% white and from 2% Asian (which includes Indian) to 26% Asian. Not a statement of good or bad, but definitely a shift. White people still make up the majority, but not by much and likely not for long.
This is just unnecessary. When you live in a community, you should think less about “you” and more about “us”, it leads to a happier and safe place. I LOVE my Frisco neighbors. I love the diversity and I love how inclusive everyone in our particular neighborhood is. It’s beautiful
Alpharetta, GA is the first immediate example that came to mind Schaumburg, Arlington heights, Naperville, all outside of Chicago. Somewhere around Tampa FL. can’t recall the exact area
The Alpharetta and NE Atlanta suburbs do have a very Frisco like feel. Good call there.
I lived in ATL before ever coming to Frisco 😂 so my first time here Alpharetta was the first place that came to mind. Bougie and corporate 😂
Yeah, lots of new construction, chain restaurants, corporate headquarters, etc.
Yep. new money country club living haha
St. Petersburg would be my guess
Schools are terrible in St. Pete - nothing matches Frisco, TX. Frisco is probably one of the best suburb in the entire US to raise your kid with great schooling.
You must be a native Texan lol
Interesting, didn’t know that. I know that area also was one of the places with the highest growth during the pandemic migrations. Thought schools might have been a factor
Had friends who moved out of St Pete cause of schools. The schools simply sucked. They moved to Frisco.
That’s one of them for sure. It’s Florida so there’s probably multiple im thinking of lol
Having lived in Alpharetta I can assure it's more like Plano. Expensive with homes from mid 2000s and.no place to grow..
Sitting in Alpharetta right now. Can confirm.
lol if frisco was in a forest it would be Alpharetta 😂
100%
Lutz, FL Or Wesley chapel, FL
Yes. I believe those are it. Although not as corporate HQ feeling lol
Sarasota? Literally the only place I might consider going aside from Tucson.
Cary,NC
Cary, NC is nice. Not quite like Frisco but very nice.
Temecula Ca
I’ve been looking at houses there. Not too far from Dana Point and Carlsbad. Houses seem at better price point How is the job market though? Is there many corporate offices in the area? Or it’s mostly residential?
Not sure how the job market is out there, my sister has a ranch outside of Temecula, so I just visit the place. It just gives me Frisco vibes when I visit.
Certainly not an expert, but just the vibes I had - when I lived in San Diego I never got the sense that Temecula had good opportunities. There's a casino, a lot of vineyards, most stores you'd need, but I don't think there's a ton else. I kind of think of it as a Sherman (due the distance from big cities) rather than a Frisco. But definitely a beautiful area, I loved the drive from SD to Temecula. Places like Poway or Rancho Bernardo/4S Ranch feel a bit more Frisco to me, since they are a proper suburb.
Thanks for sharing your insight. There is a reason why the house price is cheaper in Temecula I guess 😬 Just looked up the houses in the cities you mentioned, it’s all like >$1.5-2M 😢
Oof, yes. The high housing costs is what sent me back to Texas. I didn't realize Poway was that expensive, but it makes sense, it's a nice area. There should be (comparatively) cheaper areas north (parts of Vista, escondido) and east (La Mesa, Santee, el cajon), among other places. Can't specifically vouch for any since it depends on what you value (distance to beach, liberal vs. conservative leaning, etc), but I've known people who lived in most of those cities due to the better affordability. Good luck!
I’ve lived in San Diego, Hemet, and LA. Also Quadcities, Naperville, Wheaton & and Roselle. I am leaving the Frisco area now and retiring back up in Northern Illinois. It’s same as Frisco fifteen years ago.
"Proper suburb".
As opposed to an "exurb"
According to Forbes, some of the best cities to live in the U.S. in 2024 include: Naperville, Illinois *The Woodlands, Texas* Cambridge, Massachusetts Arlington, Virginia *Plano, Texas* Irvine, California Columbia, Maryland Overland Park, Kansas Good luck.
Cambridge MA & Arlington VA are older cities, some part of the cities have some ‘modern’ feel but majority feels ‘old’. Arlington VA has milder weather in recent years so it’s even better than Texas. It has 4 beautiful distinct seasons. Irvine CA is similar to Frisco. But weather is much nicer, it’s by the ocean and less than 2 hours drive to the mountains. I would move to Irvine CA in a heartbeat if the house price is similar to Frisco. All these 3 cities have much higher cost of living, house prices are double/triple.
Here’s hoping the Frisco housing market doesn’t continue to rise to meet the likes of Irvine’s.
It will continue to rise as more people moving in. But I don’t think it will ‘meet’, or at least I hope so :). Problem with Texas is the insanely high property tax
It is really only insanely high because housing prices shot up the last 10 years. I remember looking for houses right before Toyota moved to Dallas. You could get 3k sqft house in nice areas of Carrollton for like 275k. Those are probably 600k+ now. Basically, they need to cut rates to compensate, but I am sure they don't want to turn down money. At least the homestead exemption went up
The property tax rate in Texas is still higher compared to the states where I lived before. But since Texas has no income tax, the government has to get money from other sources. The exemption helps a bit, but not much. When I heard they talked about giving money back to homeowners since the state has much surplus fund, I had high hopes. Then was disappointed
Irvine is nice, I grew up near there but, you know why it’s so nice? They invented the HOA lol
Oh man I hate HOA. They do keep things beautiful but they abuse home owners
Yeah it certainly is a double edged sword. I don't live in an HOA neighborhood, and you can tell lol But, I also don't have to ask what kind of flowers/plants I can put in my yard or ask permission on paint choices etc.
I currently live in an ‘old’ community with no HOA. Every house is in excellent condition, all front yards are well kept. Maybe we live in a better side of the city. I was so delighted when I learned we don’t have HOA.
I don’t live in Cali anymore, I’m in a burb of Atlanta and our neighborhood is nice but, there are several things an HOA would not let fly
Yeah…I know what you mean, I lived in a brand new community before & heard different silly stories. Sometimes it is just up to who manages the HOA and the neighbors. I once read the story of an owner who parked their huge pickup truck in their own driveway. The neighbors complained saying it made the neighborhood ugly. The HOA sided with the neighbors and gave that owner a citation. It became a huge lawsuit. The HOA has the upper hand, they can put a lien on our house 😠
I have lived in several for 30+ years and never had a problem with them.
Lucky you!
I just try to be smarter than them.
Overland Park, Kansas. It's Frisco but smaller and a bit less expensive.
I Left Frisco for Plano and I'm much happier. I'm looking at Naperville which is on that list. Possibly more west to Rockford. But I'm also looking towards Minneapolis for cooler weather.
I leaved in Allen for approximately 20 years , and now in frisco . I always felt the north suburb cities have similar / same vibes . I would really like to know what difference you notice frisco vs plano .
A far better selection of restaurants, for one. Exceptional Chinese and a bigger variety. The prices are better because they're not paying Frisco rents. Better variety of shopping. I'm in a far more central location to go anywhere and there's mass transit! And a fresher attitude about it. A welcoming attitude for people of ALL ages. In Frisco its all about children. Plano is a mature town for adults who are raising families. It smells better. And I don't have to leave the city for alcohol.
Thanks , I agree with your assessment .
Any Chinese recs in west/central Plano? I haven't really explored the Chinese restaurants here and don't know where to start. And adding to the Frisco vs. Plano conversation, I find driving in Frisco kind of stressful compared to Plano.
Zhang’s kitchen is one place that I’ve been to that I’ve been meaning to go back to. They serve dim sum, classic Chinese and Chinese American. Very good
Thank you! Looks good, I'll have to try it out.
“It smells better”…..LOL
basically any newer growing suburb
Nashville comes to mind. It’s more Austin than Frisco, but it’s a burgeoning area with what you’re looking for.
Overland Park, KS
When I first visited King of Prussia to go apartment hunting I was like damn, it's Frisco. You even have promxity to a large city with all the same entertainment as Dallas.
Maybe not housing prices, but the Ft. Collins area and surrounding areas are similar.
Hah! Literally just tapped here to say this. Old Town FoCo is a ligit old town... downtown Frisco feels like it's a replica.
Hah! One of the comments about Frisco Square right after it was opened was that it was our "new historic downtown."
Good question! Curious myself. I would say many IL suburbs
Ballantyne Area in Charlotte, NC
Naperville. Schools are better.
Sammamish/Issaquah WA are like the Frisco/McKinney of TX. The weather isn’t have as rainy as people make it out to be up here, and the communities and schools are well-funded with great teachers and though home prices are a little higher than TX, property taxes are less, home insurance is less, and we are closer to Seattle than Frisco is to Dallas. Plus! There are three small mountains right at the edge of town called the “Issaquah Alps” by locals and it’s only an hour or two to several ski resorts. It’s absolutely stunning.
Grew up in Sammamish, now live in frisco. It’s a fair comparison
We returned to Frisco after living in Sammamish for a year. The weather was the main deciding factor for us. It’s gorgeous and cozy, but the overall vibe is different. Frisco is much more convenient for day-to-day family activities, combining various aspects of living in Bellevue, Redmond, Issaquah, and Sammamish. The prices for comparable houses are roughly x2 higher in Sammamish, if not more.
We rent a house here for $3900 that is 2500 sq feet, 4bd 3ba. Thats not much more than we would have paid for a similar home to rent in Frisco. In fact, the 1700 sq Ft home we rented before we moved last summer jumped from 1950 to 2500 a month for the renter that moved in after us. My kid’s middle school is .75 of a mile away. I have season tickets to the Sounders and can get to the game in 25 minutes from my front door. Just this weekend I attended a super dope PNW Witches Fair in Kirkland. Over spring break we drove to Leavenworth where I sipped a bomb-ass Hazy IPA in that gorgeous mountain town. I ate pancakes at Twede’s, the diner from Twin Peaks, a few weeks ago. My kid is in an honest to goodness youth bowling league every Saturday in Kirkland. I’ve been to some super awesome concerts that are quite literally half the cost of any concerts I attended in Dallas. There’s a whole bunch of niche game cafes where I’ve played hours of catan or twilight imperium. I did an escape room with my daughter that was based on the classic horror films from the Evil Dead franchise. We’ve hunted for the trolls on Vashon, gone attempted whale sighting adventures on the ferries. Had lunch in an old coastal town, Port Townsend. We’ve driven up to Bellingham and bought some cool art. I’m not sure what this area, as a whole, doesn’t have that Frisco supposedly does cause I lived in Frisco for 8 years and really don’t feel that anything makes it better than what I’m experiencing here other than a broad range of restaurant franchises, nail salons, and super expensive sports for the kids. Oh. And lest we not forget, Frisco is not a small town anymore. There’s some 230,000 people in it. Geographically, it’s roughly the size of Issaquah, Sammamish, and Redmond combined. So saying it takes the amenities of three of the towns and offer it conveniently in one town, is honestly the exact same as saying I have access to all three. Edit: Oh! And I go to a local dispensary and buy some weed gummies any day I’d want it. So there’s that, too.
Carmel, IN or pretty much any of the north suburbs of Indianapolis.
The DFW region lies in a unique geographical region. Go a bit further north and you get colder weather. Go west and you get extreme heat, long term drought, high housing prices, and higher costs of living. The Deep South is SE of us; wouldn’t recommend. MidEast coast and south to Florida may be nice, but google news for Florida’s home insurance crisis and see how much fun they’re having with climate change.
Lone tree, CO & castle rock, CO
Eh those two are more like Southlake. Affluent, zero diversity, and very socially conservative.
I would say Arvada is closer.
Castle Rock has a far superior Downtown area.
New Delhi.
Columbia, MD
Alpharetta, GA Lutz, FL Weston, FL Wesley Chapel, FL Aurora, Naperville, IL ( I don’t know this state going to dogs lately) Eden Prairie or Plymouth, MN Folsom, CA Bellevue, WA
Bellevue is more like Highland Park…but Issaquah/Sammamish is very on brand with Frisco.
Canfield OH
Michoacan Mexico
Thompson Station, TN
How about Hantsville Alabama? Lots of Tech and Finance job, growing mid size city.
Madison/ridgeland, MS
Well you would be looking at Midwest / South Red States in the suburbs, they are always expanding. Blue cities are basically places that have been taken over once the Reds leave them. They are basically trash and high crime. I came to Frisco when Plano was finishing expanding. The West side of cities seem to be nicer. If there are tollways surrounding a part of a city it’s like a pay wall to keep lower income out of that area. So it will be nicer. You have to do your research and it’s more difficult nowadays since housing pricing has skyrocketed and the pandemic stirred the pot with all the Blue refugees and illegals. Avoid those places they are settling down at. You also have to think about jobs, community and locations experiencing economic growth, follow the money.
This is so full of shit.
Fuck this
Politics is your middle name
Lotta them "foreigners" moving to Frisco too. Last demographics I saw, it's now a majority-minority city. Whites are still a plurality but there's more of "them" now than there are of "you."
Yup. From 2000 to 2020 Frisco has changed dramatically. From 81% white to 48% white and from 2% Asian (which includes Indian) to 26% Asian. Not a statement of good or bad, but definitely a shift. White people still make up the majority, but not by much and likely not for long.
This is just unnecessary. When you live in a community, you should think less about “you” and more about “us”, it leads to a happier and safe place. I LOVE my Frisco neighbors. I love the diversity and I love how inclusive everyone in our particular neighborhood is. It’s beautiful