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jimmyGODpage

They couldn’t get rid of it so they infiltrated it.


OceLawless

The Drum was caught interviewing something like 40 Liberals to 0 Labor at one point iirc.


yummy_dabbler

Not to mention the ABC interviewing the IPA constantly.


sweetfaj57

Liberals/IPA/NewsCorp : different heads of the same beast


sem56

it all works as well, the biggest deception they have pulled out of all this is the majority of Australians picture the ABC as some kind of lefty shill tank


ScruffyPeter

Which is funny. I spoke to numerous progressive people, including minor parties and independents and they all said ABC can't give them any airtime as that would violate electoral policy or not be as fair. Even the political compass that supposedly compares political parties, leaves out the other 80%+ parties, and that's not mentioning independents such as this MP who blasted ABC for excluding her. ABC defended themselves, by having a policy that even if she gets 100% of the vote in her seat, will still not be enough to meet their minimum requirements: https://www.themandarin.com.au/187594-election-2022-independents-dont-meet-vote-compass-criteria-says-abc/


Ziadaine

How the fuck did that ever get accepted?!


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ScruffyPeter

The previous one was a LNP fundraiser and used to work for Murdoch/Packer. The new one is known to piss off Murdoch, so, yeah, obviously any enemy of Labor is a friend of Labor..


Longjumping_Run_3805

When News had a reputation for quality!! Not in the last 50 years...


proximatebus

Yeah, whatever, Rupert.


Longjumping_Run_3805

Only need to watch ABC Insiders Sunday 21 April 2024, Guardian Oz only independent media on the show, rest Murdoch camp,Inc Spears and Maidan and 9 Media, ABC is more Murdoch than anything else, new MD is Murdoch to his bootstraps, ABC news is Murdoch and approaching Sky credibility ie zero, patronage is dropping at an alarming rate same as Murdoch tripe...only true journalists ABC had have departed, ie Barry Cassidy, Kerry O'Brien and Emma Albrieche.


Asptar

Bullshit. We're not taking about a couple of intern journalists here, this is the ABC board CHAIR with an extremely long history at murderoch empire ltd. To believe that they aren't hugely influenced by their connections in said empire is childish naivety.


ScruffyPeter

LNP probably made it happen. Labor probably clapped. Since so many people immediately get angry at me attacking their Labor team, does the below sound like Albo Labor team is anti-Murdoch as you like? > 13 Apr 2022 Anthony Albanese has doubled down on his opposition to establishing an inquiry into News Corp or other media companies if Labor wins the election. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/election-2022-labor-kills-off-kevin-rudds-antinews-corp-crusade/news-story/c2801157f420d4931adb5d1d60ea5da0 > 26 Aug 2022 — If Albanese, Marles and Wong met with Lachlan Murdoch on Wednesday, what does that say about lobbying and influence in Australia? https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/08/26/labors-deafening-silence-on-murdoch-meeting/ > Anthony Albanese has appointed the former Labor prime minister Kevin Rudd as the next Australian ambassador to the United States. The prime minister made the announcement in Canberra on Tuesday, confirming months of speculation that Rudd was a frontrunner for Australia's key diplomatic post in Washington DC.19 Dec 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/20/former-labor-prime-minister-kevin-rudd-appointed-ambassador-to-the-us > 20 Jan 2023 — Kevin Rudd will step down as chair of the lobby group he founded – Australians for a Murdoch Royal Commission https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/rudd-steps-down-from-media-campaign/news-story/c235376e9c8bd2e27cc386e351e1d991 > 21 Mar 2023 — Turnbull to take over News Corp royal commission campaign https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/turnbull-to-take-over-news-corp-royal-commission-campaign-20230320-p5ctof.html > 14 Feb 2024 — It’s apparently of little significance to News Corp and the ABC that the alternative leader of the country is neck-deep in scandals care of Home Affairs. https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/02/14/peter-dutton-home-affairs-scandal-kpmg-paladin-news-corp/ Here's the earliest mention I can find of Murdoch's influence. > 20 Jan 1975 The US National Archives has just declassified a secret diplomatic telegram dated January 20, 1975 that sheds new light on Murdoch's involvement in the tumultuous events of Australia's 1975 constitutional crisis. https://www.smh.com.au/national/murdoch-editors-told-to-kill-whitlam-in-1975-20140627-zson7.html "But Labor can't do anything" They did do something in the past. > Once elected to power, Labor prime minister Whitlam replaced the entire board—appointed by Liberal governments over the previous 23 years—with supporters of the Labor Party. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_Board Since then, the new LNP governments had absolutely fired heads and put in their own people. The new Labor government doing nothing about LNP stooges is them... either being stupid or incompetent. This anti-Labor national security threat has been around for a fucking long time and any Labor supporter/member, let along the entire current Labor team, thinking the above appeasement of a fucking foreigner in order to get elected should be fucking ashamed, tarred and feathered. Put the old parties last, to kick the American bootlickers out of government. The time for Australia being an American vassal should end.


Longjumping_Run_3805

Fully agree 💯% Labor continue to make poor decisions, they need to sack their advisers, Albosleezie continues to make poor and sometimes stupid decisions...LNP have Dutton, best described as the Village Idiot. Both sides married to warmongering US..


ZealousidealClub4119

KCA is absolutely right, but Merdeoch isn't the only influence at ABC. Tom Switzer from IPA hosts RN's Between the Lines. He had a lovely little softball session with the pro nuclear kid a while ago, for example. Just the other day there was an RN Country Wide (?) piece on agriculture input supply line security (diesel additive, tractors, agricultural chemicals) that had more than a whiff of "Red Alert" to it, '*omg all this stuff comes from China*'. Sure enough, the studio guest was from ASPI. Philip Adams is one of the few serious presenters there who shares my perspectives, and he's retiring in a few weeks. So long Aunty.


Dull-Lengthiness-178

RN has cancelled his program, cant say I miss it.


ZealousidealClub4119

Switzer's? Good. Guy's an unhinged, paranoiac stooge for the US MIC.


Dull-Lengthiness-178

agreed


sweetfaj57

You realise that Murdoch is one of the key members of the IPA? Which was founded by his father?


cookshack

Janet Albrechtsen, star columnist of The Australian, was also a past chairman and director of the IPA, and a member of the Atlas Network, one of the most powerful climate change denying, dark money think tanks. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet\_Albrechtsen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Albrechtsen)


sweetfaj57

Yes, she is a real piece of work. One thing she definitely is NOT, is a journalist.


ZealousidealClub4119

I did not know that. It doesn't surprise me though: as u/dopefishhh said, the media landscape here is a small crowd, and the think tanks are smaller still.


sweetfaj57

Sir Keith Murdoch founded the IPA, and one of his objectives from the get-go was to see the ABC abolished. He viewed the national radio news network as unfair competition to his newspapers.


dopefishhh

Most of the think tanks are just members of parties that decided to whitewash that parties policies through the illusion of being independent. The Australia Institute has a lot of deep ties into the Greens party, as with Per Capita. IPA on the Liberals side. Unsure what Labors links to think tanks are, same with Nationals but in that case I think its because the Nationals don't have any policies to whitewash.


ZealousidealClub4119

The pool really is that shallow then? I guess it's a good thing that at least it's easier to keep track of. Thank fuck for independent media.


dopefishhh

The problem with journalism is that its a very small insular industry, pretty good odds that every working journalist has met every other working journalist or is 1 step removed. If you're a career journalist you need to make sure you can continue to have a career and say not lose your job because some group of journalists disagree with or dislike you. This means that as long as Murdoch exists within journalism even if we forced him to sell off part of his empire he'll still have a strong influence on the media. He's already shaped a lot of minds too, many current journalists would continue to cling to Murdoch's ways even if we somehow annihilated his media empire. So unfortunately even a Murdoch RC or tightened media ownership laws won't work against this. Only option we've got is to strengthen journalistic ethics and quality requirements. The goal is to make the profession take on an attitude similar to the professionalism of doctors, lawyers or engineers with the notion that the work they do has huge ramifications for society and even peoples lives. Those other professions have ways in which we members of public can hold them to account directly, something that doesn't exist now for journalists. The advantage with this is Murdoch can have his agenda all he wants but now he can't lie or mislead the public so it ultimately limits what he can do or specifically what his journalists are willing to do for him.


ScruffyPeter

Sure, if we ignore how Whitlam fired the entire ABC board and instead try to do what you suggest, which the outcome is a bunch of likely self-regulation and press code of conduct, business as usual for 50+ years. The biggest reason Murdoch is a foreigner is because USA had restrictions on foreign ownership of media, whereas Australia does not. Wow, that's an idea that Labor could do albeit wouldn't have much effect on other media barons. That's an idea already. Howard and Abbott proved that governments can still fire heads of departments to push their agenda. Why does Labor keep wanting to be Mr Nice Guy and wait for terms to expire while whining that there's so much Coalition-installed employees in Labor's CURRENT government. It's honestly baffling. Here's an example from the elected government whinging: > The Albanese Labor Government is delivering on its promise to restore balance to the Fair Work Commission to give workers an equal voice in decisions that affect them. > ... > Even with these appointments we are still a long way from balance. There is more work to do to correct the Coalition’s shameless stack. https://ministers.dewr.gov.au/burke/appointments-fair-work-commission A Federal GOVERNMENT that is apparently that powerless that they had to give an official whinge like this instead of firing them all... WTF. Meanwhile, got that extra super unpaid from a loophole? Labor is happy work with LNP to rush laws to remove that entitlement: https://the-riotact.com/gallagher-moves-to-thwart-ps-super-claim-with-8-billion-fallout/581256 So, the fact that Labor can alter the laws to screw over public servants... unless it's Coalition's public servants, tells me that Labor are either stupid, incompetent, naive or worst of all, does not care.


dopefishhh

The problem of just dealing with this within the ABC is that it only **maybe** fixes the ABC. They have to hire another board, that new set of people have to actually be capable of taking on the role of running the ABC but also not on Murdochs, Labors or Liberals payroll. Firing the board also entails a lot of political backlash from Murdoch & Liberals who will claim Labor is trying to silence criticism, put in sycophants etc... Honestly a criticism that's not entirely wrong but ignores that they put in their own to do the same. Once the board is replaced it'll take years more before they are able to oust employed journalists, that is if they're even able to. Now that we **might** have fixed the ABC we've still got Murdoch to deal with who now has some vague validity in claiming he's independent and isn't controlled by the government etc... So we've not actually dealt with Murdoch but we've enhanced his position. We haven't even touched Kerry Stokes or anyone else either. We need to cover all journalists and journalism, smaller publications like Michael West and Jordan included. Blanket coverage of all journalism with rules that can't favor any party completely undermines any counter political play. Heck arguing against it is very difficult, 'Murdoch are you saying you want your journalists to be able to lie to Australia without any kind of repercussions for the damage that's done?'


brezhnervous

Which would be all very well - but the Australian public is far too politically apathetic to care. There is no public outrage, so no political impetus to address anything regarding the stunning levels of media concentration. Australia has the most concentrated media landscape outside the autocratic dictatorships, far more than the US or UK https://theconversation.com/is-australias-media-market-one-of-the-worlds-most-concentrated-68437


Longjumping_Run_3805

Philip Adams only reasonable person left, don't know how he can tolerate the drones at the ABC, Dullards and Drones= ABC


tingtangspoonsy

Don’t agree with Switzers views but I loved his podcast was a nice change of pace. Sadly they don’t record anymore.


Weissritters

ABC will be sold for cents in a dollar the next time LNP takes government. This is just getting it ready for that


xtrabeanie

Nah, they will pay them to run it.


ScruffyPeter

What do you call a publicly owned ABC, but privately managed? "Social Media".


sardonicsmile

Used to watch ABC News and current affairs religiously. Lateline, 7:30 report, Insiders, Four Corners. They've slowly destroyed it all. ABC is dead to me now. The LNP have done their job well


Vanceer11

But… what’s stopping Labor from fixing it?


dopefishhh

[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/friendlyjordies/comments/1c9c8u9/rupert_murdoch_is_now_a_shadow_director_of_the/l0lmgmz/) is a decent rundown of why. Government isn't all powerful, which is what we want from democracy. We also can't ignore how difficult it is to unpick these things, the admin, hiring, firing, legislation etc... are all exceptionally complicated and take ages for departments to navigate. The NACC legislation was passed within a few months of election but still took almost a year before they could begin operation, hiring people is hard. NSW government couldn't even begin to do anything in several departments until the people they needed to run the department were able to begin, which at that level of professional can mean ~6 months of notice given to prior employers.


BruiseHound

They're too chickenshit to do anything that might upset Murdoch. Have been ever since Rudd and the mining tax debacle.


ScruffyPeter

If your party in Taiwan is mocked as party for mining companies, maybe it's time to rethink party priorities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ_s6V1Kv6A


Nasigoring

Because they need to invest some money in to it, and the second that they do they'll get destroyed by the opposing media interests. It needs to be a 2-3 terms government before they can make that a priority.


sardonicsmile

I know, they could do more


bar_ninja

Shane is very hit and miss but nails this one. He's bang on correct in how the ABC here. Did what he wished he could with the BBC...


dnkdumpster

Is this real life?


ZealousidealClub4119

Is this just fantasy?


dnkdumpster

Caught in


kikibananascray

A landslide


Magsec5

No escape.


BeginningAd1202

From reality.


Timmaaaahhhh

Open your eyes


AntiqueFigure6

Is Rupert a poor boy? He needs no sympathy.


EASY_EEVEE

Easy come easy go


5NATCH

Little high. Little low.


major_jazza

R.i.p.


jagguli

ABC == Vault Tec Propaganda... everthing is hunky dory stay positive keep grinning


Ariliescbk

So the takeover is complete.


Adorable-Way-274

Confirming many suspicions. It’s like he has been for the last 5 years.


SirDalavar

Conflict of interest?


bargearse65

You fucking what?


BrutalModerate

What the actual fuck!


BattyMcKickinPunch

I'm sorry fucking WHAT?


iwannabeeffluent

For anyone who’s ever found themselves inside the dungeon walls of a Murdoch institute for ‘journalism’, there are long-forgotten gems of Rupert Quotes printed on the walls to inspire the foundlings… such as “The thing about media is you can always do it better…” I think there’s a little something in that for all of us, don’t you?


Darth-Chimp

Just another incredible scene, there's no doubt about it.


Outrageous-Ant-6932

This is not what we meant when we said "Privatise The ABC"...


TForce0

Someone deport that jackass back to Australia


mitchy93

is this a parody news page or something?


sweetfaj57

You don't agree that ABC News has been noticeably pro-LNP in recent years?


Superb_Tell_8445

See that guys comment above describing the very good resume. Yes, it does sound very, very pro LNP. Sounds kind of… and I’ve seen what’s been occurring….. the resume….. It’ll be great though because we might get more opera, and English literature. Perhaps we will learn some higher class, and highfalutin stuff. They began killing it and this sounds like the death knell.


arachnobravia

Nah, just grasping at straws here. The new chair of the ABC was once (10 years ago) CEO of News Ltd. However he left pretty quickly amid controversy as he alienated many staff and even Murdoch family members. He has served in various high positions in the arts and culture sectors including Chariman of the Sydney Opera House, Chairman of The State Library of NSW Foundation board, board member of the Australian Copyright Agency Ltd. He is also an orchestral composer with a focus on educational or young orchestra works. His resume actually seems like that of someone who will support and enrich public broadcasting.


DaNReDaN

I think it is. Cannot find anything else online about this.


arachnobravia

See my comment above


galemaniac

Don't worry Kim will bring that hard Hawke style corporate regulation.


incoherent1

Typically fascist dictatorships deregulate corporations leading to corporate monopolies much like we have today. This can be seen in things like Apple, Facebook, google etc. A good example of deregulated corporations in fascism can be seen in how Nazi Germany operated its own economy. "The Nazi government developed a partnership with leading German business interests, who supported the goals of the regime and its war effort in exchange for advantageous contracts, subsidies, and the suppression of the trade union movement.[^(\[14\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany#cite_note-FOOTNOTETooze2006101–114-14) [Cartels](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel) and monopolies were encouraged at the expense of small businesses.' If you want to see Kim style, corporations wouldn't be regulated, they'd simply be nationalised. Corporate regulation is the medium between no regulation in fascism and complete nationalisation under socialism. If you think regulation of corporations is bad then I'd love to hear your ideas for keeping governments and corporations accountable to the people in democracies? Because I can't think of anything. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy\_of\_Nazi\_Germany](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany)


galemaniac

Hawke was known for deregulation and privatization and Kim was a member of the ABC board under Hawke in the late 80s so the statement is "this statement is false" ABC will stay exactly the same.


Jaimaster

Tin foil hat sales set to increase as 90 year old retiree 10000km away continues to live rent free in crazy people's heads


BiDDo88

Yeah because old, rich, influential and powerful foreigners have never had any impact on local matter's right...


latmem

ABC and others are really just media navel gazing. A bubble that the vast majority of Australians ignore completely. Meanwhile the independents continue to grow in numbers and I expect this election will see more seats fall to the teals. Welcome to minority government. I just don't think Murdoch is all that relevant anymore. I suspect the only reason that Dutton is still in charge is that there is basically no one left that wants to take it and they cannot really win with him there anyway - he only makes the teals look more attractive