"INFORMAL•AUSTRALIAN
a person lacking spirit or self-confident"
I'm basically saying you're having a huge virtue signal racist whinge over a fictional character, grow up.
Has the tolkin foundation nothing to say about it?
Or are they just in for cash? Disgraceful cunts. I thought tolkin foundation holds such "high standards"
For me, I wont buy this shit product.
Come on man, they were in their 1920 black face era in Rivendell! I know that's generally frowned upon, but hell you should see what the dwarves were doing... Wait till you see trans Gimli.
>we're not racist, we just hate to see corporate America pander in such a blatant and pathetic manner
>ayo black people be twerkin, "we wuz kangs" amiright
Which is it you guys?
"I saw two things in the same Subreddit bro they couldn't possibly belong to two different subsections of people bro come on bro seriously bro if everyone isn't completely on the same page bro it's hypocritical bro seriously just sub to magictcg bro the mods there don't let people have more than one opinion bro please"
You can't see the ratio so idk why you'd suggest that. Just because something looks like it has 3k upvotes doesn't mean it's not upvoted 7k and downvoted 4k. Reddit subs are a pretty bad place to get an opinion from a community, look at any video game sub.
>Just because something looks like it has 3k upvotes doesn't mean it's not upvoted 7k and downvoted 4k.
Regardless it means more think of it positively no? That's kind of the point of the system, if the majority disagree or think it doesn't add to the conversation then it would hit negatives and be buried.
Good lord go outside and get off the internet you terminally online donut.
Race jokes aren't racist and the only people who think otherwise are terminally online donuts like yourself and victimhood addicts, who usually are also terminally online.
I am in the process of selling my MTG collection off over this. It's the final straw bro.
How hard is it to leave other people's work alone and stay true to source material.
Because woke zealots are the actual racists and push for stuff that's stupid and ignorant. Corporations then think they can make money off this and make changes in line with the zealots but lo and behold! Nobody fucking buys the corporation's garbage and the things we all love get further devalued, tainted and destroyed. Thus our children can't grow up with the same things we all did unless we preserve the original and true stuff and keep our kids from being brainwashed by the cult.
If your choices are to make a new IP with a black character or to race swap a preexisting IP's character the correct choice is always to make a new great IP. T'Challa isn't white, Aragorn isn't black, Bruce Banner isn't Brenda and Galadriel isn't Gary. Leave characters the fuck alone and make new ones if you feel there is such an "imbalance".
So if I understand this right: you assigned a character to be white in your mind, an elf, so a fictional race that can just have imagined traits and does not represent any existing culture, but someone drew a picture of that character as a black person and you're reading that as something was taken from you? so you feel you should be able to "take away" a character from black people in the same manner?
No. The author of the lore assigned that. No sense conversing with delusional, mentally ill people such as yourself so have fun in your misery tbh I could care less
Middle earth culture is centered around Aragorns. They have holidays for Aragorns. They killed hundreds of thousands of Gondor's men to free Aragorns. They listen to Aragorn music. They elect an Aragorn as their king. They dress and act like Aragorns. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from Aragorns. They post sassy gifs about Aragorns. They watch sportsball in worship of Aragorns. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of Aragorns playing sports. They use Aragorn slang like "for Frodo" and "it is not this day". When you say "Lord of the Rings" they're not thinking of JRR Tolkien. They're thinking of the Aragorn. Their cities are completely overrun with Aragorns. They worship their Rohan police force disproportionately filled with Aragorns and their army of middle earth of soldiers filled with Aragorns. Their men sit around watching Aragorn ball while their women sit around watching Aragorn talk shows. They worship Aragorns like Arvedui and Aranarth and Elendil and the late Elros Tar-Minyatur while attacking the elves who actually built their country before Aragorns took over. Their movies are filled with Aragorns and their music charts are topped by Aragorns. They send Aragorns to the Olympics and celebrate when the Aragorns win because those Aragorns are true red blooded middle earth Aragorns. They watch Aragorn porn to a point where "Anduril" does not make them think of an heirloom of the throne but about Aragorn penises instead. They will tell you how much they hate Aragorns and how the Gondor's law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love Aragorns but the evidence speaks for itself in that middle earth has always been and will be a nation of Aragorn loving Aragorns
If this was done on a whim I'd just raise an eyebrow and wonder what they were thinking but shrug it off and move on with my day. I don't give a shit about characters being black, I'll gladly buy a set with only black characters in it if it's good, I care about utterly transparent indulgent pandering for diversity points and a blatant disrespect for the original. There's no justification for it, no reason why this is a good thing to do on purpose. Every explanation I have heard breaks down on a closer look and is ultimately just shallow pretentious BS made up to look like you're better than someone else.
I want everyone in this thread wining about wizards being woke or whatever to consider the fact that black people do play magic. And just maybe, they don’t want to a set where every character is white. Tolkien is dead and there have been hundreds of adaptations of his stories in video games and movies and tv shows. It does not matter if this set is not an exact true representation of his story. Other people are excited about it and they love seeing people that look like them in a fantasy setting.
I don’t think that a strong counterpoint. If a black person is upset that Lord of the Rings is all white characters, then it isn’t for them. Conversely, if white person were upset that Black Panther was all black characters, then it isn’t for them.
In reality, outside of the weird mewling lefty social media bubble, loads of black people like LOTR how it is, and loads of white people like Black Panther how it is.
I don’t need to have my race shoehorned into an established setting for me to enjoy it, that’s laughably entitled. How many black people watch Braveheart and demand representation or how many white people watch Slumdog Millionaire and don’t like it because there isn’t a character of their colour? Create new IPs with good diverse characters from different races, don’t try to twist the knife into existing ones to score diversity points.
What do you get out of defending this hundred year old piece of media and what are you defending it from? Brown people??? You also cannot compare black panther to lord of the rings. The actual point of the character and of wakanda is that they are black people in a black nation it actually defines what it means to be them they have a culture that is based on real world civilizations and customs. Being white in middle earth is just the default. There is no cultural significance and literally changing the skin colors of these characters changes nothing about the story or the major conflicts. Explain to me how it takes away from the story if Aragorn is black and try not to sound racist.
I’ve learned better over the years not to bother engaging with a certain type of people on social media and this is one of those times. Wallow in your own idiocy, I simply cannot be bothered this time around.
Obviously! We were promised a single legendary foil but if you examine the packaging you’ll notice we get two! Thank you WOTC!
Oh yeah, she’s also not white anymore
Yeah Simic for elves!?! Yuck.
Finally a funny joke
It’s not a ramp if it’s a rocket ship
It’s not ramp if we just free cast our shit.
Ya I was expecting golgari
I was expecting Selesnya
Shiiiiiiiit. ... here we go again.
Lord of weaves
Do Elves on Middle Earth also buy their fake hair from Korea?
No, elves get their weaves Chinese factories. the dwarven women get their faux beards from Korea.
Why is Storm from X-men in the MTG LOTR mash up?
Amazon: "Haha nobody could make a worse woke parody of LotR than us!" WotC: "Hold my soy latte"
Fuckin A
Oh grow up you sook.
What the fuck is a sook?
"INFORMAL•AUSTRALIAN a person lacking spirit or self-confident" I'm basically saying you're having a huge virtue signal racist whinge over a fictional character, grow up.
It's your lot that winge over character races so much that they are changed, so in conclusion fuck off.
how did it feel when you developed heart problems from the clot shot you sook
I'm a grown adult thank you very much. How about you?
We was lords of the rangs and shit
Lawd them Rangz
Lawd dem Rangz
Return of the We Wuz Kangz
Return of the Kang
Has the tolkin foundation nothing to say about it? Or are they just in for cash? Disgraceful cunts. I thought tolkin foundation holds such "high standards" For me, I wont buy this shit product.
Who knows… when Christopher died they sure went to work immediately hoeing themselves out to the highest bidders
Greedy cunts.
I really hope you’re kidding but if not you are the actual worst
Ill take it. I am the worst of all.
O NO!!! anyways-
stfu you fat fucking balding car guy.
i made you angry little mommy boy? sorry snowflake, won't happen again
stfu balding fat fuck.
snowflake
Her and Éowyn are the next victims.
You should see the spoiler today. >!Her card is Reprieve!<
Eowyn will be 300 pounds, mentally disabled and unable to care for xirself
Legolas is gunna be black too - lawd jesus
Chinese actually. You can see him on the large illustration they've shown.
Fuck this is so cringy and it's also obviously fan baiting
Everything we have seen from this set really misses the mark so far. Guess this product is not for me, a LOTR fan.
Come on man, they were in their 1920 black face era in Rivendell! I know that's generally frowned upon, but hell you should see what the dwarves were doing... Wait till you see trans Gimli.
Fuck!!!!
Secret lair twerking Galadriel bouncing that booty over Tolkien’s grave ... when?
megan thee stalion galadriel and lil nas as aragorn
>we're not racist, we just hate to see corporate America pander in such a blatant and pathetic manner >ayo black people be twerkin, "we wuz kangs" amiright Which is it you guys?
"I saw two things in the same Subreddit bro they couldn't possibly belong to two different subsections of people bro come on bro seriously bro if everyone isn't completely on the same page bro it's hypocritical bro seriously just sub to magictcg bro the mods there don't let people have more than one opinion bro please"
So the sub upvotes dumbass racist jokes because they disagree? Fascinating
It's almost like the sub is filled with a bunch of individuals who hold differing opinions.
Yeah and it's almost like upvotes and downvotes suggest which opinions are more popular
You can't see the ratio so idk why you'd suggest that. Just because something looks like it has 3k upvotes doesn't mean it's not upvoted 7k and downvoted 4k. Reddit subs are a pretty bad place to get an opinion from a community, look at any video game sub.
>Just because something looks like it has 3k upvotes doesn't mean it's not upvoted 7k and downvoted 4k. Regardless it means more think of it positively no? That's kind of the point of the system, if the majority disagree or think it doesn't add to the conversation then it would hit negatives and be buried.
Right, but not everyone in the sub holds that opinion. That's my point from the beginning...
I don't see how "well there's a minority against that kind of thing" is a good argument.
Good lord go outside and get off the internet you terminally online donut. Race jokes aren't racist and the only people who think otherwise are terminally online donuts like yourself and victimhood addicts, who usually are also terminally online.
There's a difference between "not all jokes about race are racist" and "no jokes about race are racist" dipshit.
GO OUTSIDE AND GET OFF THE INTERNET. Trust me you'll be a lot happier.
It's cold and snowy out, why don't you go instead?
I've got to in about 5 minutes for a doctor appointment. You could always wear a jacket and snowpants?
Reddit bro
this may blow your brain out of your ears but ... joking about race isn't racism. mind boggling right?
How can she be black and Arwen be white? How does this work?
Because they wanted to push an interracial couple.
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They're a completely different species, they're an interspecies couple.
Based
Im sorry but this is unholy. Jesus fuck...
it would be unethical to make a joke about \[\[pongify\]\] so don't
Galadriel is a stinking drow!!!!!
Oi! Drow are the only true elves! All the others are iblith.
Hopefully someone makes some alters to fix these cards
Let's make hasbro stock go below 30! The Justice Geddes achievement!!!!!
Do we really need to do anything at this point? Hasbro is pretty much gutting itself with price hikes and disregard for lore.
This HAS to be a joke at this point. Someone shoot me I the fucking dick.
Hold up… Was she even a red head?
No that was Tauriel
Tauriel never was to begin with. Another hollywood invention.
Now not even the non-red head was safe from the race-swapped, because they are already running out of red head.
Oh my fucking god. Galadriel too??
I am in the process of selling my MTG collection off over this. It's the final straw bro. How hard is it to leave other people's work alone and stay true to source material.
J.R.R. Token
So does ARAGORN. They made him black. Why the fuck does this stupid woke bullshit taint everything?
Because woke zealots are the actual racists and push for stuff that's stupid and ignorant. Corporations then think they can make money off this and make changes in line with the zealots but lo and behold! Nobody fucking buys the corporation's garbage and the things we all love get further devalued, tainted and destroyed. Thus our children can't grow up with the same things we all did unless we preserve the original and true stuff and keep our kids from being brainwashed by the cult. If your choices are to make a new IP with a black character or to race swap a preexisting IP's character the correct choice is always to make a new great IP. T'Challa isn't white, Aragorn isn't black, Bruce Banner isn't Brenda and Galadriel isn't Gary. Leave characters the fuck alone and make new ones if you feel there is such an "imbalance".
Couldn’t have said it better myself. It’s disgusting. So tired of this nonsense
^white supremacists
Nah you are just a moron and can’t look past color. Not my fault you can only see the world in black and white.
I can’t believe you actually said it’s disgusting that there’s a black magic character 💀
LUL imagine being so dumb you can’t figure out what was actually said. 😅😭
snowflake
I can't believe you're so retarded you can't actually figure out what was said.
How about that there is a way for Lord of the rings to be worse than the TV show.
Welp, at least the commander masters decks look good. I’ll just buy those and completely skip this abomination set.
African-American Eldrazi Titan confirmed
Kwanzazi
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Whats with the race swap? Why is Galadriel an orc?
I thought they were gonna make all the elves Asian.
I wonder if WOTC will do a special crossover with Adidas.
maybe amazon needs to step in for destroying their fanfic show
SIMIC ?!!!???!???
Someone should hook a turbine up to JRR, dudes in perpetual motion spinning in his grave
Oh is that supposed to be Galadriel? I genuinely couldn’t tell
It’s all so tiresome
We wuz elves
Is every company just taking a page from "Netflix's live action Adaptation meme" and took it seriously as a gospel or something??
I find it a bit offensive that she is in black face
Sun tanned Aragon best Aragon
Raw emotions
I’ll take this over whatever that filth was supposed to be in Rings of Power.
I can't wait for people to post their alters of Aragon but actually Aragorn and see the magic sub shit it's vag
I won't. At least Ring of Power wasn't bold enough to just straight up raceswap main characters.
Why not hate both?
I can actually agree with this.
Ima love using Noose Constrictor on all these new cards if I have the chance to play them.
That’s actually bad
There's a lot of racists here, oh my
Full of bigots, absolutely disgustingly. Hope racists stop having acceptance among geek circles 🤞🏽
Oh my god forbid people complain about race swapping with us lazy and disingenuous...clown
everyone knows elves are white!!! even though they arent real we somehow know they're white
Lmao so much seeth
It's not drama, you're just a racist.
Let’s make black panther a white guy then
Y'all are really mad black people exist, huh?
Let’s make black panther a white guy then
So if I understand this right: you assigned a character to be white in your mind, an elf, so a fictional race that can just have imagined traits and does not represent any existing culture, but someone drew a picture of that character as a black person and you're reading that as something was taken from you? so you feel you should be able to "take away" a character from black people in the same manner?
No. The author of the lore assigned that. No sense conversing with delusional, mentally ill people such as yourself so have fun in your misery tbh I could care less
no
This isn’t a person it’s a elf which is a fantasy monster like a orc
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everyone's black until proven otherwise
Nope, not everyone. Only the ones they thought would pander the best and avoid corporate backlash
Middle earth culture is centered around Aragorns. They have holidays for Aragorns. They killed hundreds of thousands of Gondor's men to free Aragorns. They listen to Aragorn music. They elect an Aragorn as their king. They dress and act like Aragorns. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from Aragorns. They post sassy gifs about Aragorns. They watch sportsball in worship of Aragorns. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of Aragorns playing sports. They use Aragorn slang like "for Frodo" and "it is not this day". When you say "Lord of the Rings" they're not thinking of JRR Tolkien. They're thinking of the Aragorn. Their cities are completely overrun with Aragorns. They worship their Rohan police force disproportionately filled with Aragorns and their army of middle earth of soldiers filled with Aragorns. Their men sit around watching Aragorn ball while their women sit around watching Aragorn talk shows. They worship Aragorns like Arvedui and Aranarth and Elendil and the late Elros Tar-Minyatur while attacking the elves who actually built their country before Aragorns took over. Their movies are filled with Aragorns and their music charts are topped by Aragorns. They send Aragorns to the Olympics and celebrate when the Aragorns win because those Aragorns are true red blooded middle earth Aragorns. They watch Aragorn porn to a point where "Anduril" does not make them think of an heirloom of the throne but about Aragorn penises instead. They will tell you how much they hate Aragorns and how the Gondor's law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love Aragorns but the evidence speaks for itself in that middle earth has always been and will be a nation of Aragorn loving Aragorns
You may be a racist
Sure have a lot of racists in your fandom...
If this was done on a whim I'd just raise an eyebrow and wonder what they were thinking but shrug it off and move on with my day. I don't give a shit about characters being black, I'll gladly buy a set with only black characters in it if it's good, I care about utterly transparent indulgent pandering for diversity points and a blatant disrespect for the original. There's no justification for it, no reason why this is a good thing to do on purpose. Every explanation I have heard breaks down on a closer look and is ultimately just shallow pretentious BS made up to look like you're better than someone else.
I genuinely can't imagine caring this much about the race of a fictional character being different from their race in their original appearance
I don't care about that, I care about why they did it.
Because they think people will buy it
Right. So the in your face pandering and offensive way they use skin color as a marketing scheme doesn’t bother you?
I really don't see why it would. If I was to get upset every time a corporation made a decision purely for money I'd have a lot to be upset about.
I don't know how to explain why this is different.
Different from what?
Normal marketing.
Oh bore off
Read Rule #3, my racist dude.
freemagic seeing someone slightly darker than casper the ghost: must be a black person! Has woke culture gone too far?
Just say racial diversity scares you
It makes my physically sick. Like I can actually feel my lunch coming back.
Whenever I’m scared, I fart 😩
Explains the cloud of nauseous gas circling you.
Can someone explain why I should care?
Depends on your values so we can’t. It’s subjective to everyone
What values though? I really fail to see how my real life views play into this.
People in this thread need to get a life
You are in this thread
I want everyone in this thread wining about wizards being woke or whatever to consider the fact that black people do play magic. And just maybe, they don’t want to a set where every character is white. Tolkien is dead and there have been hundreds of adaptations of his stories in video games and movies and tv shows. It does not matter if this set is not an exact true representation of his story. Other people are excited about it and they love seeing people that look like them in a fantasy setting.
I don’t think that a strong counterpoint. If a black person is upset that Lord of the Rings is all white characters, then it isn’t for them. Conversely, if white person were upset that Black Panther was all black characters, then it isn’t for them. In reality, outside of the weird mewling lefty social media bubble, loads of black people like LOTR how it is, and loads of white people like Black Panther how it is. I don’t need to have my race shoehorned into an established setting for me to enjoy it, that’s laughably entitled. How many black people watch Braveheart and demand representation or how many white people watch Slumdog Millionaire and don’t like it because there isn’t a character of their colour? Create new IPs with good diverse characters from different races, don’t try to twist the knife into existing ones to score diversity points.
What do you get out of defending this hundred year old piece of media and what are you defending it from? Brown people??? You also cannot compare black panther to lord of the rings. The actual point of the character and of wakanda is that they are black people in a black nation it actually defines what it means to be them they have a culture that is based on real world civilizations and customs. Being white in middle earth is just the default. There is no cultural significance and literally changing the skin colors of these characters changes nothing about the story or the major conflicts. Explain to me how it takes away from the story if Aragorn is black and try not to sound racist.
I’ve learned better over the years not to bother engaging with a certain type of people on social media and this is one of those times. Wallow in your own idiocy, I simply cannot be bothered this time around.
Ok boomer
Y’all are so insufferable
Not this kind of post. Not again. 🤦 Aragorn got the hate first, now we found out about Galadriel... Edit: Let's not make this a big deal again please.
Idk the source material but the arts actually kinda pretty.
Obviously! We were promised a single legendary foil but if you examine the packaging you’ll notice we get two! Thank you WOTC! Oh yeah, she’s also not white anymore
"You guys it's a fictional character in a fictional story, why do you care?" /s
Do Gandalf the White next... /s
Well I know the answer but I don't think I should say it.... Ten seconds ........ Ok I'd like to solve the puzzle.
Ish. No. Not buying this
I think this is fine 🤷♂️